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Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge

Facts 

Overview
Lost Through truss bridge over East Fork Little Miami River on Olive Branch-Stonelick Road
Location
Clermont County, Ohio
Status
Replaced by a new bridge
History
Replaced 1990
Design
Two-span through truss with an extremely noisy deck
Approximate latitude, longitude
+39.11877, -84.20891   (decimal degrees)
39°07'08" N, 84°12'32" W   (degrees°minutes'seconds")
Approximate UTM coordinates
16/741300/4333666 (zone/easting/northing)
Inventory number
BH 96000 (Bridgehunter.com ID)

Categories 

Clermont County, Ohio (50)
Lost (30,063)
Lost 1990 (203)
Lost during 1990s (4,178)
Ohio (4,699)
Replaced by new bridge (20,461)
Through truss (17,903)
Truss (36,822)

Update Log 

  • January 20, 2022: Added by Paul Plassman

Sources 

  • Paul Plassman

Comments 

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 14, 2022, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Actually the oldest concrete bridges date to the late 1890's. They are becoming rare, but a few still exist.

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 13, 2022, by Bambi Sharkoman (jesseberube5 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I Think the First interstate Bridges could be considered historic like in Houston I45 (Houston Ave/Memorial Drive - I69) and Dallas I345 which are the first two limited expressways built in the state of Texas and i think the entire country too. i would also include any built under Eisenhower who helped developed the system. i love truss bridges just as much as anyone else but i also love 1930-1940 concrete bridges (which are historic for being the first concrete bridges built) therefore i am much more willing to accept other concrete bridges. if they arent historic yet they eventually will be as more and more get demolished as so many people see no value in them whatsoever and most of the bridges divided cities and neighborhoods. they were also built in a similar fashion as railroad through eminent domain and helped the growth of many cities and at the same time was the cause of the demise of many other cities that were bypassed just like railroads.

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 11, 2022, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I had a conversation one time with the late Eric DeLony, and I remember him saying that a bridge generally needed to be over 50 years old to garner any real historic distinction. But now in 2022 that would put things like interstate overpasses built in the 60's into the mix, and I personally would hesitate to call them historic.

Being biased towards trusses, I generally like to see them fall in the 75+ year range.

Of course when the term "Notable" was added to the site it opened up an entirely new can of worms. What some people have added under that label has fallen short in many of the "purests" eyes.

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 10, 2022, by Bambi Sharkoman (jesseberube5 [at] gmail [dot] com)

from personal experience i have always been fascinated by anything before i was born (1990s) but for most people it starts around the 75-100 years old mark if not later

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 10, 2022, by Brandon Cooper

Maybe in the feature, these bridges might be appreciated once they became more beautiful and settle into the community more. But it may take years upon years before the concrete bridges of today gain the respect their forefathers have now earned.

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 10, 2022, by Bambi Sharkoman (jesseberube5 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Brandon, Paul

i think of them as we do with 1920-1940 concrete bridges. back then people must have thought those concrete bridges had no appeal compared to the very intricate and fancy ornamental bridges from the late 19th and early 20th century. hence why so few of concrete bridges from that era still remain and have been replaced. people only care about everyday things once they are gone just like cars and household items you see in museums today

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 10, 2022, by Brandon Cooper

I know it will be disheartening to see the Gaysport Bridge get torn down, as it was somewhat visually appealing on the eyes. I think after it's destruction, Dillon Falls Bridge might be on the only multiple span pony truss left in the county.

I also don't even count Thompson Run Road, even though it's still standing, but it's barely hanging on and is going to meet the scrappers later this year. With that, the modern ponies are all that is left at Drake Martin, Cutler Lake (both barely within the county limits and I forgot them earlier, as I don't consider that area Muskingum, but more Morgan due to the geography) and Kopchak, which are probably in the halfway point of their life spans.

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 10, 2022, by Paul Plassman

Brandon,

I definitely agree that modern trusses are more visually appealing than just beams or slabs. I have noticed as well that Muskingum County seems to be replacing some of them, which may in time cause their historic significance to rise somewhat. The loss of Granger Hill was rather disappointing as it was a multi-spanner, and it will be an even bigger blow when they tear down the Gaysport/Blue Rock span, which is nothing less than Ohio's longest pony truss.

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 10, 2022, by Brandon Cooper

Paul, while Ohio might have an inordinate amount of trusses from U.S. Bridge due to the company being in Cambridge, OH, I still feel like the trusses have fallen out of favor in certain counties like Muskingum, who would rather build concerte boxes and stringers/girders at every crossing possible.

I will say that the trusses, even if pre-fabbed, are better to look at than the Michael J. Lutz or the Granger Hill bridges due to those two being generic concrete and steel girder designs with no character whatsoever.

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 10, 2022, by Paul Plassman

Rick, et al.,

To answer your first question, I know of a handful of multi-span prefabricated pony trusses that have been built, mainly in Ohio. Wyandot and Muskingum counties both have a couple, such as this one: https://bridgehunter.com/oh/wyandot/bh94403/ However, I can't say I've personally seen any modern through trusses with more than one span.

As far as the debate over whether to post certain types of bridges, my opinion is that while I like modern trusses, I don't think every single U.S. Bridge/Ohio Bridge Corp. truss needs to be added, simply because they're pretty much a dime a dozen and not technically historic, even if they somewhat imitate a historic bridge type. On the other hand, as this website covers "notable" bridges as well as historic ones, I think a minority of modern trusses deserve to be on here, such as any multi-span pony or any especially large-scale pony span, such as over 150'. Also, I think what makes these bridges "notable" depends on the state and local context as well; while a generic modern pony wouldn't be notable in Ohio due to the large number of such bridges in that state, such a bridge would be more significant in Michigan, where these kinds of bridges are rare. I confess I've bent these rules a few times myself, though, so I wouldn't be that annoyed if someone did post these kinds of bridges; as I said, I like them and I still stop and take a look at them even if I don't generally think they're worthy of inclusion on a site dedicated mainly to historic bridges.

As far as modern covered bridges go, I completely agree with the guidelines for adding bridges as stated in the Bridgehunter Quick Start Guide:

"Authentic covered bridges are certainly welcome, and even modern reconstructions are fine as long as the builders tried to stay true to historic designs with wooden trusses or arches. However, don't bother with fake-looking bridges and so-called "romantic shelters.""

Meaning that a modern covered bridge that actually uses a structural truss is good to add, but a "covered" bridge that is actually just a stringer with a fake cladding is not.

My two cents' worth...others may disagree.

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 9, 2022, by RICK SHELTON (shltn [dot] rck66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Brandon, Paul,

I agree with you, in a setting such as this it is not the worst thing in the world. The new Grant Memorial Bridge would be another good example. Of course, I would always prefer the original, or even one of the new prefab trusses like the new Beasley Fork Bridge. Which brings me to an interesting thought in regard to the Olive Branch location; there used to be a multi-span here, have there been any multi-span prefabs built? With so many of the old multi-spans going by the wayside, it would be something really neat with a new spin.

With regards to the current debate of what should be posted here, the new trusses or even the new covered bridges obviously have no historical value, but they can't for decades, right? Does that mean we shouldn't post them when they are new?

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 9, 2022, by Brandon Cooper

I'm the same way on concrete bridges, even though the majority of them aren't attractive to the eye. But if they are placed in their environment in the right way, they'll do their job and won't look too terrible. Also, they could be named for someone important in the community, like Bridge Street's replacement was named for a sheriff's deputy who got killed in the line of duty.

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 9, 2022, by Paul Plassman

Rick,

I actually don't dislike concrete bridges; they're not near as fascinating as the old trusses, but I can honestly say I've never seen a bridge I didn't find interesting in some way!

The Little Miami IS wider there than I was picturing. I wish I could have found a historical postcard or photo of the truss. Maybe one will pop up someday.

Olive Branch-Stonelick Road Bridge
Posted February 8, 2022, by RICK SHELTON (shltn [dot] rck66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Paul,

Sorry for the boring UCEB, but I thought it would give you an idea of the length of the old truss. I certainly wish I could have gotten a shot of this thing.