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Upper Manorkill Falls Through Truss

Photos 

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Map 

Facts 

Overview
Lost through truss bridge over Manor Kill Creek on CR 39
Location
Schoharie County, New York
Status
No longer exists
History
Built ca. 1930; rehabilitated 1975; replaced 2003
Design
Parker through truss
Dimensions
Length of largest span: 149.9 ft.
Total length: 151.9 ft.
Deck width: 17.4 ft.
Vertical clearance above deck: 13.2 ft.
Approximate latitude, longitude
+42.38000, -74.43167   (decimal degrees)
42°22'48" N, 74°25'54" W   (degrees°minutes'seconds")
Approximate UTM coordinates
18/546786/4692125 (zone/easting/northing)
Quadrangle map:
Gilboa
Average daily traffic (as of 2009)
425
Inventory numbers
NY 2264080 (New York State bridge identification number)
BH 26788 (Bridgehunter.com ID)
Inspection report (as of September 2017)
Overall condition: Good
Superstructure condition rating: Very Good (8 out of 9)
Substructure condition rating: Very Good (8 out of 9)
Deck condition rating: Good (7 out of 9)
Sufficiency rating: 99.5 (out of 100)
View more at BridgeReports.com

Categories 

Built during 1930s (11,927)
Lost (26,378)
Lost 2003 (525)
Lost during 2000s (4,294)
New York (4,670)
Parker through truss (1,342)
Parker truss (1,729)
Schoharie County, New York (59)
Span length 125-175 feet (4,302)
Through truss (15,725)
Toll (171)
Total length 125-175 feet (6,037)
Truss (33,885)

Update Log 

  • August 20, 2021: Updated by Luke: Added picture of the correct bridge for the era
  • February 24, 2018: New photo from Art Suckewer

Sources 

  • Art Suckewer - Asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com
  • Luke

Comments 

Upper Manorkill Falls Through Truss
Posted August 21, 2021, by Art S. (Asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Thank you for clarifying both the issue and logistics Luke.

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Upper Manorkill Falls Through Truss
Posted August 21, 2021, by Luke

You ARE indeed mistaken, Art, because here's the webpage in 2014, showing that it has ALWAYS been for the through truss, and that it was created by James merging NBI info, not by you.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140421171521/https://bridgehun...

The postcard of the Lower Manorkill Falls bridge was uploaded to the WRONG page from the get-go and should've been it's own entry.

Also you can't "transfer NBI data" once it's attached to an entry. Once it's linked only the webmaster can unlink it, and it's quicker to correct errors than to waste Nathan's time.

Manorkill Falls Through Truss
Posted August 21, 2021, by Art S. (Asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Luke,

I could be mistaken but I believe I created the entry around the image. I didn't include the NBI data in the entry.

It seems as though you chose to build your correction around the imported NBI data and created a separate entry for the older bridge. Why not the other way around? If you created an entry for the 1930 bridge and transferred the NBI data, both entries would be correct solely through your efforts.

Mostly curious about your intent and logic.

Art S.

Manorkill Falls Through Truss
Posted August 20, 2021, by Luke

Additionally, per the NYC Water Archives, the pony truss was at the lower falls, which is inundated, while the through truss was at the current road's elevation at the upper falls.

Manorkill Falls Through Truss
Posted August 20, 2021, by Anonymous

Because the NBI is clearly for a 1930s through truss.

The truss in the image is clearly a truss of that vintage, vastly unlike the Groton-built pony truss in your picture.

Manorkill Falls Through Truss
Posted August 20, 2021, by Art S. (Asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Luke,

Why did you create another listing for the pony which is already listed here then add the non-pony here?

Sincerely,

Art S.