Would love to see a photo of this bridge!
Sure looks like it to me Nathan!
Do we have agreement that this bridge likely contains Phoenix Columns and is likely a product of Phoenix Bridge Company?
One lane of the bridge is “open” in that the dirt pile doesn’t totally block the bridge. I wasn’t able to explore around the bridge as a hunter was parked in front of it, and I didn’t wanna get shot!
Always interesting to see bridges which are both "Swing" and "Vertical Lift"... there's one up in Arkansas that was changed due to the river channel shifting.
Thank you for all of these contributions, Brian! Interesting to imagine a movable span at this location. Back then the area was buzzing with the logging industry, and I can see how bold innovators imagined making the Little River navigable to the Black and Mississippi rivers.
LA 500 Little River bridge - September 26, 2012
2016 spring flood destroyed the west approach to the bridge. Photo taken March 16, 2016
Taken from drone October 20, 2015
L&A / Louisiana Midland little river bridge looking towards Grant Parish. September 26, 2012
Attached is the pdf file of original documents and plan for the little river bridge. It almost was a draw span until plans changed. LaMidlandrr@gmail.com
Original Louisiana & Arkansas Rwy blue print of the black river bridge.
Roger Vidrine from Alexandria, LA purchased the Louisiana Midland in 1987 through a sheriff's sale. I'm uncertain if he removed the bridge or sold it to someone else to remove. The photo was taken at Jonesville, LA in 1988 during the scrapping of the railroad. LaMidlandrr@gmail.com
Another great photo, Brian! When / who removed the bridges here and at Archie?
Great photos, Brian! Thank you so much for sharing.
On September 9, 1980, a cotton compress at Jonesville was burning cotton waste on the banks of the Black River when the fire got away and burned the pile approach to the bridge. At this time LOAM had already suspended rail service between Packton and Vidalia, LA. The bridge was never used again.
Photo taken March 11, 1988 by Louis Saillard
The embargo may include the stretch of road that the bridge is on, since you don't need to be on it if you don't intend to cross.
Is it correct that the weight rating for the bridge is the same as the road to and from it?
The Times-Democrat June 29 1886
Smith Bridge Company
This is senseless, especially given a new bridge could have been easily built next to the historic one.
I wonder if the unusual notch was related to streetcar use. If so, it might have been an alteration when the bridge was moved here. This is another mystery swing bridge of the deep south in that we do not know the year it was built nor do we know who built it. Could be another 1880s swing bridge. It has old 1880s style Carnegie brands on it.
Nathan, thank you for the clues that allowed me to find it !
Thank you for discovering this long-lost bridge!
Perhaps water levels were low when I visited this bridge and this isn't always visible but I was able to see a tipped over swing bridge pier poking up above the water indicating that the previously bridge at this location was likely a swing bridge.
Some parts from the swing pier of this bridge are visible a short distance south of the bridge near the railroad tracks at these coordinates: 32.692806, -93.958436
I added a Street View to the page showing these.
I drove over this bridge last year. People are not kidding when they talk about this bridge having steep approaches. Going over this bridge is quite a ride!
There is a bypass loop around the city, and it avoids this bridge.
East bound, 09/20/2019
The third picture IS the Fulton street bridge, notice the KCS rail bridge to the left. Both of which are gone now.
I have to wonder if "Big Red" after almost 75 years is now mounting an attack on the remaining bridge approach. It's getting awfully close to the Effie side.
the 1976 rehab was due to a deadly barge strike on one of the the main piers.. Repairs were completed in less than three months
Tropical Storm Barry will be a weak category 1 hurricane when it makes landfall (Last NOAA projection I saw said it would be doing so at Marsh Island, well west of here.).
If these bridges can't survive ~70mph winds, somebody screwed up.
A storm of Hurricane Barry is about to destroy those lift bridges at Belle Chasse!
Original bridge was completed in 1884 by Vicksburg, Shreveport and Pacific Railroad. From the Shreveport Times July 1st 1884 issue “The railroad bridge across Red River is completed, except the painting and the finishing of the apron or wagon way on this side of the river. The under grade plate girder span, on the Shreveport side, is 60 feet. The through spans of which there are two, measuring each 262 feet 8 inches in length. The draw or pivot span is 300 feet and the last, which like the first, is 60 feet on the Bossier side, making 5 spans and a total length, according to these figures, given us yesterday, 925 feet 4 inches. The width of the bridge is 20 feet from centre to centre of trestle and the approaches are laid with Nicholson’s pavement [wood block pine pavers soaked in creosote]. The bridge has a double track wagon road and ample room for foot passengers.”
It was reconstructed in 1916 according to Eric J. Brock in his book "Shreveport in Vintage Postcards" and the undated photo there shows a bridge with flat top spans, not the arched top spans that show in a later post card.
From my research this bridge was opened in 1907 and built by the Cotton Belt Railroad according to Eric J Brock's book "Shreveport in Vintage Postcards".
There was an identical bridge over the Bayou St. John East of this down the line.
The Yacht Club Bridge was not this one. It crossed the entrance to the Yacht Club Pen (harbor) that opened into the New Basin Canal and was on Pontchartrain Blvd. at the Southeast corner of West End Park. The boats had to go through this bridge in order to get in and out of the yacht harbor from the canal.
I found a postcard in my grandmother's photos showing a bridge like this being built at Simmesport in 1937. She wrote on the back that my grandfather, Bill Icenberger was the carpenter foreman (for the concrete forms). Is there an auto bridge and a railroad bridge at Simmesport?
The 4 pictures in my previous post didn't come in at the order that I thought, but you can probably figure out which is which. I'm posting better picture of the old approach.
The man in Marksville told me about the last two vehicles to cross the bridge. Two men were discussing going across from the Effie side. One was driving a log truck and he insisted that he definitely had to get across the river. The other driver decided to follow him even though the bridge had been condemned and closed. The bridge was shaking to beat the band frightening both men, but they did get to the other side just before the bridge collapsed. It was seconds later that it went into the river.
I have to wonder if they had removed a barricade. A man and woman perished because they apparently didn't know the bridge was closed.
I took a road trip to Marksville for a number of reasons, and I did pay a visit to the old bridge site. Attached are several photos. I was able to view some of the archives at Marksville Weekly News. In 1995, there was a 50-year bridge celebration where some of the old timers shared their memories of the event. If there is a 75-year celebration in 2020, I'll definitely plan to be there.
The replacement bridge opened in 1949, not 1947 like some online info indicates. I knew '47 had to be wrong because I remember riding the ferry at the original bridge site. I was born in late '47.
The gentleman at the Weekly News mentioned that the engineers for the replacement bridge (now demolished) and the current bridge were father and son. If I remember correctly, it was the grandson who pushed the button that brought down the replacement bridge.
Two of the attached photos are of what remains of the original bridge. The traffic lanes were less than 10 feet wide. The view with the 3 trees is toward 1196 on the Effie side. The other view is toward the Red River although you can't see it. Another photo shows swing support still in place in the river. The fourth picture is of the sign at the site which has a brief spiel about the original bridge. They put a picture of the wrong bridge on the sign. That's the replacement (now demolished).
Dude! We can totally make this! I saw it done in a movie!
We got a 2016 Chevy Cruze with the 1.8 liter l4 Ecotech, a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.
Darwin award: "2 Texas men die trying to jump car over open drawbridge" It was this bridge.
Although I was very very young at the time, I distinctly remember being with my folks crossing on the ferry. I only remember the crossings in one direction - never toward Effie even though we obviously did go that way.
I also distinctly remember the words used by my dad when his 1940 Ford died going up the ramp on the Moncla side.
Bridge doesn’t appear to be open to traffic. There are street signs indicating “bridge out” and satellite view shows the bridge left in the open position.
The current bridge was constructed in 1958. Thanks for the info on the old bridge. I have attached a family photo from 1943 featuring the old bridge.
The Fulton Street Bridge doesn't have approach truss spans.
The newly posted photo looks like the Fulton Street bridge not the Moncla Bridge.
I am searching for photos or good line drawings of the original bridge of the Atchafalaya R. The bridge I am interested in had 2 movable spans--one to move to the side to allow the main span to retract opening the river for navigation. I would like to make a model of the bridge opening arrangement.
Roy R. Reynolds
This also the original alignment for US 71, pre-1930
There was a ferry brought in after the collapse of that bridge. It was in operation until the replacement opened upstream. I remember the ferry even though I was very young. Some of the first cuss words I remember hearing from my Dad were spoken as we were going up the ramp on the Moncla side. The decrepit old '39-'40 Ford stalled and rolled back down to the ferry, and Dad strung a bunch of those colorful words together.
Part of the old approach on the Effie side is still there.
This bridge had a metal railing decorated with flour-de-lis . This railing was replaced around 1990 . I salvaged 100's of the fleur-de-lis from this job and still have one or two !!!
Got the drone out and took this photo of the Vertical lift bridge on LA 1 over Company Canal in Lockport Louisiana. Built 1959. Design: Vertical lift Deck plate girder.
That is unusual on the portal and sway bracing. I wonder if they had to frequently move something too tall in one point through and that was the solution.
Or is it original?
Whatever the reason, it significantly reduces the strength of the bracing.
Unique "Notch" in the portal and center sway bracing... Never seen that before! I'm glad they are taking care of it!
Repainted and railing added. https://wgno.com/2019/02/06/bridge-on-bayou-st-john-reopens-...
Thank you to all who have provided this information regarding our beloved
Chef Menteur Bridge (Also known as the Long-Simpson Bridge).
I had the privilege of growing up in the Chef Menteur community in the 1950's-1970's.
My husband's father, along with his brothers, owned the Marques Brothers' Seafood Restaurant located at the foot of the bridge. It was "The" place to go to enjoy fresh seafood straight from Lake Pontchartrain.
In the 1930's, my grandfather, Gabriel Vinot, was one of the first bridge tenders to operate the bridge. In the years to come, two of my uncles became bridge tenders of our beloved bridge.
I possess many beautiful memories of this small fishing community and the people who spent many leisurely hours at Marques Restaurant, as well as the many fisherman who worked every day to provide the community with the freshest
seafood our gumbo pots could hold.
Thank you for the opportunity to respond to your post.
New Orleans, LA
So enjoy the pictures. My father was supt. For construction of the bridge and lived in Logansport. I was born in Logansport in February 1937. When all was done, we returned to Texas and Charles R Saffel continued building roads and bridges.
The La Dept of Highways built the bridge (I believe). My father,Paul J Mayne, was one of the civil engineers in charge of the work. We would drive over it and he was very proud of how level the concrete supports were after so many years in a swamp.
Funny story, my mother used to bring him lunch occasionally and on e she noticed a framed sawing off a board upon which he was sitting. But he was sitting on the part of the board that would fall into the water. My mom said “Paul , you going to let that man saw himself off into the water?” He said “ Yeah, he won’t do it again!”
Awful lot of money spent on repeatedly updating that stretch of highway, that’s for sure.
Based on Mr. Sensat's comment I changed the name to reflect the one on the 1948 topo. In addition, the pin is on the border of two parishes, neither of which is Evangeline. Section number is greater than 36 due to the unusual surveying in this area.
This info is incorret. That bridge crosses Bayou Nepiqiquis. Bridge is known as Janki Bridge. Hwy 100 which is nearby about 8 miles NE does cross Des Cannes.
Just a note from stories of the past, there was a hand pull ferry on Bayou Des Cannes between Crochet Rd and Fabacher Rd which was the main road which linked Lake Charles with Opelousas (then Parish Seat}
Current bridge was built 1994 replacing a 1955 bridge that replaced this.
Excelllent. Thanks for the photo! We’ll have to dig into the inventory to see when the current bridge was built, as that will give us an idea of when this one was replaced. Probably in the 60s when Highway 1 was improved from here and to the south.
if location is correct, I don't think that qualifies as "replaced by new bridge"
What ADT was the bridge originally designed for?
I drove over this massively huge bridge while seeking shelter from a storm today. All I can say is wow, just wow!
The ladder was probably for old river gauge
When was this built? Sources? Please reply by email. Thanks
Brian i can tell you that the bridge in NC is not the old Fulton Street Bridge I was 9 years old when they they demolished it they used the parts from the bridge to replace parts to similar bridges in south Louisiana
For those of you looking for photos of the original Fulton Street bridge, I've been told it is still in use but moved to Wilmington, NC. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any documented proof of this claim. I have a coworker that has told me that our (Wilmington, NC) bridge was purchased from Louisiana, and have only been able to dig up limited current use info. The small amount of info available seems to support this. Look up the Cape Fear Memorial Bridge in Wilmington, NC to see if this bridge is your original Fulton Street bridge.
Pass on the other bridge when this is open. The same bridge tender operates both bridges so they are not open at the same time.
There isn’t. It shouldn’t be on this page IMO, as it is neither historic nor significant.
Photo of plate on the bridge taken 04/24/2018.
Newspaper reports state that two 40 foot spans collapsed on April 11th, 1945 due to floodwaters. These were on the Moncla side of the river as you approached the steel swing span. The bridge was never repaired. A ferry was used to cross until a newer bridge was built up river.
Did the first bridge fail, or was it replaced by the Long-Allen bridge that we used up until the 90s? I'd like to know more about this bridge.
Is there someone who can provide information on what is important about this bridge?
Kinda funny how the Google Earth streetview car crossed in the night time and the view is basically worthless.
NBI shows open in 2000, closed in 2004.
This was on the former Rock Island RR line that originally ran from Little Rock, AR to Winnfield, LA.
As you can see, the bridge is closed to all traffic. It is not intact, as the west end of the bridge collapsed. It appears to have been closed many years. Such a shame to see such a beautiful bridge go to waste.
Forgot to add This bridge was a narrow two lane bridge before rehabilitation work around 2007-2008.
This Bridge was originally the Leeville bridge from around 1945 and replaced by the Leeville lift bridge in 1970 and placed here in 1974-75. According to the Lafourche Parish Port Commission The bridge was condemned by the Louisiana DOTD Inspection. The bridge was removed during the week of March 3 through March 21, 2018.
there is bridge similar to this (on the same abandoned line) still standing across the Tchefuncte River. It's about 11.5 miles to the East. It can be seen from the US.190 bridge. It's not as long as the lost one, however.
Barking up the wrong tree.
The bridge either needs to be repaired or it needs to not be opened. Every other opening or so it gets stuck open and creates havoc on the residents due to traffic congestion. it is also opened at peak traffic times which makes the situation much worse for traffic. Someone will be in need of the ambulance one day while the damn thing is stuck open and they might not get the proper care in time. I see a lawsuit in the making. Fix the damn bridge.
NRHP Nomination plus 1979 State Survey form attached as single PDF here.
This bridge is located in Webster Parish, not Caddo.
My father, Frank Stout, was the Superintendent to build this Red River Bridge in 1959. During the construction of the new bridge, one span of the old bridge washed away and was temporarily fixed until the new bridge was completed.
This design is identical to the original Bonner St. bridge in Ruston, LA that was replaced in 2004.
Here is a modified satellite image that shows the most likely original highway/bridge alignment based on 1940s Parish and USGS maps. Concrete slabs and approaches are in red. The black lines represent the location of the steel bridge spans. The river was much narrower and approached the bridge at about 90 degrees when it was built between 1931 and 1934. The pier for the swing span still exists as well as a small concrete approach opposite the Moncla side of the river.
Roger that, David. I ride by this bridge somewhat frequently on my motorcycle, but I always pay more attention to the old railroad trestle right up the bayou ;) Wish I had pictures of it!
I wondered, but could find no info
I think the build date for this bridge is inaccurate, based on the design of the bridge, and the traffic estimate coming from before the "build date" of 1991. A bridge appears at this location on the 1949 topographical map, so I would assume this bridge is at least that old.
Thanks for the excellent new info and pic, James! Would you mind sharing how we can find images like what you posted, as well as the contract and construction info? I would love to do my own independent research on other bridges.
Specific to this bridge, we could narrow down the exact date of closing / abandonment to when the levee was constructed here, as the levee was plopped directly over old SR 20 / Highway 1. I imagine both the old route and current route were open concurrently at least until the levee was constructed, severing the route.
Probably never movable. The highway 515 bridge nearby is very close to the water and also appears to be fixed rather than movable. I doubt this bayou was navigable.
From the satelite view this appears to not headwind bridge. Was the swing bridge possibly replaced?
Wish I was closer and could check out this bridge! IDK if it is open or not; Historic Aerials seems to show it open in 1994. Hard to tell after that. Seems like an odd place to build a bridge in the 1960s, though I suppose I could see a need for a cut-across between 17 and 577.
According to https://books.google.com/books?id=8cs1AQAAMAAJ&q=Little+Rock... the construction on this bridge began in September 1904.
I saw this on a boat trip in October 2017. It appears to be abandoned and is swung open. There are still wires crossing it, and the telegraph poles are still there. It is near the chemical plant.
I would like to know when it was built and how long it has been abandoned. I hope they do not destroy it. If anyone has any additional information, please contact me.
I went through here on the river as it was being dismantled. It is sad to see these old truss bridges go away, as the new ones are so plain and boring.