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Some info from Encyclopedia Dubuque:
It appears the tunnel was built when the original bridge was with some of the stone mined going into the bridge piers.
I’m not sure how much CN is going to be willing to help. I haven’t come across any IC blueprints before either. Normally, the IC charts are very well put together, complete with dates. I’ll search through a couple more and see what I come up with. A date of 1899 wouldn’t surprise me however.
Thanks John for responding.Would CN or Illinois Central know when it was built or who built the tunnel being that if Illinois Central is still in business?Looks like an old tunnel.
The track chart I have gives a total length of 851’. No build date was given, but it may date back to the first Mississippi River crossing here; but also may have been built in 1899 when the crossing was rebuilt
I have a couple of questions.How long is this tunnel and when was it built?Looks like a very interesting tunnel being that it's curved.
I am glad to finally see more photos of this bridge. Traveled down this road several years back, but were unable to see the portion hidden by the trees or the black girder bridge that was behind that building.
The two obvious choices are Cooper-Hewitt (Trenton Iron Co.) and John A. Roebling and Sons.
The dark horse is Corwin Iron Works out of Lambertville (just up the river) as he regularly worked with Lowthrop.
Trenton Locomotive and Machine Works, maker of the Hamden road Fink, is a possibility but I suspect they were just a division of Cooper-Hewitt.
These are just my initial thoughts. If time permits, I'll do some research.
College Creek up by the dam in the arboretum.
The Squaw "swim" was a $20 dare.
Lol; College creek above or below Lake Latrine?
Hazardous duty pay?
I think serious posts should be under a real name; humor is fine under a pseudonym. Wrangling a troll is okay too. The troll is probably using one of many false names anyway. lol
I was being serious when I mentioned a bridge at Orme street in Wichita, but I got the dates wrong - it's apparently been gone a long time. It connected Wichita Western RR to ATSF trackage. Apparently, ATSF removed it after they built their bridge farther south.
Can't find much on it other than this:
Gone in 1943:
Guess it's a mystery. We can't count on a local resident's lore for this one.
This is actually an interesting rehabilitation. It did not eliminate any significant historical components, while strengthening the bridge for years to come:
A likely candidate would be the Birmingham Iron Foundry of Birmingham (now Derby) CT
Art, according to https://books.google.com/books?id=t1dFAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA101&dq=l...
a company from Birmingham CT made the frame and a company from Trenton NJ made the tension rods.
This bridge will remain closed until they do the full rehab in 2019.
Image is of the Riverside Avenue Bridge
Took this video 5/14/18
Great information! Found it looking for info for my youtube videos. You can link to my video if you like. Footage taken 5/14/18
I just read in today's Reading Eagle that this bridge which spans the Manatawny Creek in Oley Township will be replaced starting today for several months.What PennDOT calls a reconstruction will include replacement of this bridge with a single-span,concrete box beam bridge with new abutments and widened shoulders to accommodate pedestrians and cyclists.The approaching road also will be realigned to mitigate curves and improve visibility.This bridge is being replaced by PennDOT under the County Bridge Program which uses county,state and federal transportation funds.No price on the project was immediately available.Detours are in place for this project.
Some anonymii actually help on this website. Don't pool us into one bad group. There are good and respectful anonymii and vice versa.
While in high school and as dumb as we were , myself and several friends have jumped off this sucker a few times. Luckily we were never injured but can for sure say it hurts a little .
I don’t recommend the jump to anyone.... not sure if kids today still select this place to hang out. If you are familiar with the small communities along I40 you will know that... well... this might be the best thing to do in the area.
This bridge is now closed with plans to demolish and replace with a new bridge. So sad.
Nice article here on this bridge, with old photos. https://yellowstoneinsider.com/2016/06/13/yellowstone-histor...
Visited this bridge May 19 and it is currently closed for a little remodeling. I talked with local resident Jack Pace and was told that on May 18, the deck, which has been cleared of pavement and restored to wooden, caught on fire and burned for quite a bit. He was told that inspectors feared that it may be down for a while.
I remember waiting on the red light to get across this bridge.
Thanks, I will have a look.
Here is a copy of the bridge book, which comes from a Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe Railway bridge book from 1937, provided by the Fred M. and Dale M. Springer Archives.
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Judging by photo 4, I'm going to say that this was a relocated railroad bridge.
Visited site today, 19 May 2018. New concrete bridge in place.
Have the Exhibit maps been disabled? They're not loading.
Anonymii like that
I found the coordinates on www.historicaerials.com of the abandoned tunnel
The bridge is sadly still closed, but it appears to be moving closer to its rehabilitation! Hope to see it open in the not so distant future!
Yes, the area around the Main Street Bridge has been altered greatly. The river has been channelized through there. The Marais des Cygnes River has a terrible history of flooding, and Ottawa needed to build a levee system to protect the town.
At one time, there were three truss bridges right next to each other over the river. Locust Street, the railroad bridge, and the Main Street Bridge.
Kansans tend to frown very strongly on any River related activities. Almost all rivers are considered privately owned except the Missouri, Kansas, and Arkansas. Thus, if you are canoeing on the Marais des Cygnes, Neosho, Verdigris, etc, you could potentially get reported for trespassing.
I've waded/swam in both College and Squaw Creeks.
Made money off the latter. :')
I've canoed or tubed most of the rivers in the Story and Boone county area, and the Mitchell, Howard, and Winnesheik county area up north. The Maquoketa near Painted Rocks park is nice too.
Probably how I came to love those old iron trusses. 8^)
Floated over that low weir north of Ames off of Arrasmith Trail once. Ugh.
Don't need a sock puppet anymore, maybe a sock monkey?
Sock monkeys are made from socks manufactured in Osage, iowa.
Iowa has a LOT of beautiful canoeing spots, despite all the crappy low-head dams.
Possibly there was a park along the dam pool and people canoed there.
Surprised to hear that canoeing is limited in Kansas.
My favorite stream, the Upper Iowa River, is classified as non-meandered, so the land is private, only the water is public. Even so, it is the possibly the most popular canoe destination in the state.
Here's the old 2000 canoe guide.
Now that Angie has been blocked, I wonder how many other anonymii will disappear.
Fortunately, it appears that "ILoveBridges" was at one time traced to the Wichita area by wikipedia, so we might have a local resident there with more info on the Orme street ATSF bridge.
The ATSF bridge formerly crossing the Arkansas river at Orme Street in Wichita does not seem to appear on BH. Could it be 533A? Map seems to show a crossing there until circa 1970.
Thanks cAPs Look and speeel cheerk get me every time!
Yet another occasion this Futurama clip has been apropos regarding "Amanda" and their BS:
Maybe cAPS lOCK wasn't such a good idea in this cASE.
No Information was given except for that it crossed the Arkansas River. I will post the record later this evening
For those of us who are not railroad experts, where was bridge 553A? I am guessing the answer is not available on Google.
Yep that’s the one. Thanks for the add! This structure replaced a through truss.
John Believe this to be the one
The bridge I refer to is just to the west of Main Street. It was replaced with a series of I-Beams.
Art Think the Dam was at Walnut
Ott Dam removed 1959
There is still a truss bridge on the west side of town. It now serves as a rail trail. The chanelization project started just east of that bridge.
I know there was a truss on the ATSF route heading south over the river. I believe it was replaced in the 60s? I’ll look further into it later this evening.
The Marais des Cygnes River has been channelized through the entire Ottawa area. I suspect that this channelization process led to the destruction of any remaining historic bridges over the river in Ottawa.
This area once had an incredible collection of truss bridges, some of which were very ornate.
My question is, if the bridge was pushed off of the pier, how was the tree growing in the center pier not destroyed? It appeared in photos taken prior to the alleged collapse, and it also appeared in my photos from last week, completely unharmed. I get that FLDOT doesn’t care for the bridge, but it’s also not their problem. I believe the two counties share ownership of the bridge. I couldn’t get onto the bridge, but I believe the structure is relatively stable. The pier and rollers could use some help, but the superstructure is in good shape.
Also, I noticed it would take one heck of a flood to get to the superstructure. I’m not gonna claim to be familiar with the area, but if would seem the bridge is higher than the surrounding woods and swamps. To me, this would suggest the river would spill its banks and then dump into the surrounding areas, before ever reaching the truss.
My point being, I did a documentation of this bridge. I saw no evidence of any of the claims made. A mature tree in the center pier seems to indicate that there is no way this bridge was knocked off the pier. No structure damage exists. I hope we can use this scare as motivation to get this bridge permanently preserved.
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I’m not even sure who Amanda is but if the extent of copyright violations and potentially incorrect information is as bad as James makes it sound, then yeah, either ban the user, or at least, prevent them from editing anything until they learn what “copyright” and “verifiability” mean. Those are the two most important concepts when contributing information to any public website or database: make sure the info is not copyright infringement, and make sure it’s verifiable.
I find it unfortunate that FLDOT doesn’t appear to care for this bridge, because if they did, they would’ve placed it in storage in a safe place, rather than placing it back on the pier where it will only be a matter of time before it falls again.
P.S. addressing messages to Amanda, whoever they may be, is probably pointless if they are blocked or banned.
7th Street would have crossed the Marais des Cygnes River on the east side of Ottawa.
It is interesting to see people canoeing on the river in this old photo. Today, it is unlawful to canoe on most rivers in Kansas.
Thanks for doing the investigation. I have no doubt than Adnama will create a new website with copyrighted material again. We must be vigilant.
Well, well, well. I did some forensic analysis on the IP number used by both "Local Resident" and "Amanda".
And what did I find? This little beauty of a link:
Wikipedia has banned a particular user, "I Love Bridges", for the "Creation of hoax bridge articles, and meddling with existing ones."
The same IP number used by Amanda is mentioned on that page. It has been banned from Wikipedia for a year because of long-term abuse.
Good riddance, Amanda. Wikipedia was right to ban you, but I'm not willing to settle for a one year ban. You and your hoaxes and copyright violations are not welcome here ever again.
Darn, broken link.
He said, "you are fake news". Andrea, you are fake news.
President Trump explains what happened here.
Nice to see you back! I really enjoy your contributions and would love to see your photos of this structure. Regarding of the build date of the bridge, I suspect the pin connected spans date to the late 1890s or the early 1900s.
Raise your hand if you think the English language is not sophisticated enough to allow you to convey your thoughts without capitalizing words. On a serious note, do not be a Statist conformist, stand up for your Rights. You may photograph anything in plain view from a public right of way or your private property, no exceptions.
An update.. I hiked to this bridge in 2016 and spent four hours taking many pictures from underneath it. Later, I spent time on the adjacent Hickman-Lockhart while not impeding traffic and also photographed each railroad span several times. Never saw any police, although I'll admit to timing my photography to lulls in the traffic flow. I don't seek trouble while bridge-hunting and ordinarily will try to avoid it, however I won't let someone keep me from lawfully enjoying the passion of taking pictures of a beautiful bridge. Got great pictures in this case. But nonetheless, my defense would have stood, had I encountered any resistance.
I’m using a VPN server, which obfuscates my IP data for privacy. Therefore, it doesn’t locate to my actual location. In fact, I don’t even know where it locates to.
I AM A LOCAL RESIDENT and I do not appreciate being attacked or harassed.
I was shocked, shocked to discover that the first comment from "Local Resident" was posted from the same IP number used by Amanda in the past, and that this IP number is registered to an internet provider that is 1,200 miles away from the Drew Bridge.
I've tried to follow the advice of "Don't feed the trolls" but this is getting ridiculous.
I believe there may be a few pictures of the bridge while it was located next to the Hal W. Adams Bridge. However, FLDOT is notorious for refusing to make their documentations public, and therefore very rarely will you find pictures like this on Google Images or whatever.
The bridge originally collapsed due to flash flooding of the Suwannee River submerging the swing pier underwater. It was initially thought that the swing pier was destroyed, but fortunately that was not the case.
The superstructure did sustain some damage. I saw the bridge while it was next to the Hal W. Adams Bridge, and some of the members were definitely falling apart and bent out of shape. However, for some strange reason, a police officer who just happened to be driving by claimed that it was illegal to take photos of the bridge, which I know in theory is a 1st amendment violation, but I didn’t want to get arrested... so yeah.
As to why it was placed back on the same pier, your guess is as good as mine. As I noted, some of the cast iron appears to have been replaced, but I have no clue why they would put a bridge already damaged back on a pier that was in danger of complete failure. My guess is that FLDOT is too busy and is spending too much money on widening short little freeways in the Miami area, and adding astronomical toll rates on said freeways, when they really don’t serve a functional purpose.
Castle with a moat and a swing bridge?That's an original if I ever heard one,Julie.Anyway,Removing this bridge to where it can be used would be great.By the way,stock the moat with alligators.That'll keep people away!
It must have taken some clever logistics and engineering to set an historic swing truss back up on it's precarious perch in the middle of the ol' Swannee river where it sat unused for half a century. Some might suggest that the necessary resources would be better used to put the truss on display somewhere more accessible to the public, but I say "poo on that".
Thanks to local resident for filling us in on the details. Surely there are pictures of the move?
At least we now know for sure that Andrea wasn't just bullshitting about the near loss of this span.
'Scuze me - I gotta get some popcorn for this discussion.
Are there any pictures of the restoration and resetting process? I've not seen a bridge like this survive a fall into a river without sustaining some damage. What apparently caused the bridge to fall in? And if it fell in once, why was the decision made to have a structure in danger of imminent failure placed back on the same pier?
Marias Des Cygnes River in Ottawa?
Ahem... local resident speaking.
There is no “trolling” going on here. This bridge was indeed swept off its pier by flash flooding of the Suwannee River during a large patch of severe thunderstorms, and as Nathan Holth mentions, the superstructure was temporarily relocated next to the Hal W. Adams Memorial Bridge.
The good news was that, unlike what was originally thought, the bridge did not suffer serious structural damage, and the best part was that the swing pier did not completely give way under the floodwaters, as it had appeared to. Once the floodwaters receded, myself and a few other residents went down to the river and discovered the pier was still there.
As such, the bridge superstructure was moved back and placed back on the pier a few days before John’s visit. The bridge was essentially bolted on to the pier, so that’s a major alteration, and I gather that one or two of the cast iron members had to be replaced. Despite this, I can confirm that the bridge is indeed currently intact, albeit considered at risk for “imminent failure” in any future flash flooding event, however it was not intact for a period of time and therefore no “trolling” was occurring here.
I'm a vendor that sets up at Comic Cons sometimes. I decided to do Super Con in Metropolis Il. I've been to Metropolis a long time ago, on family vacation to see the Superman statue & museum, etc. This time I was by myself, and at the end of my first day at Super Con, I just wanted to grab something to eat and drive across the river to my hotel. I don't generally use a GPS, but maybe I should have that night. I grabbed a bite to eat, and thought I was going the right way when I was pulled over by a cop. Apparently I was speeding (I wasn't sure of the speed limit as I don't live there, but I was in a hurry to go home so I guess I was). I explained I was in town for the Comic Con, and he just gave me a warning (he said he was in a good mood and was starting vacation the next day lol). I thanked him and went on my way. Unfortunately, the way...ended up being on the Brookport Bridge. I was still shook up from getting stopped, and once I realized I was on the old bridge and not the newer one, I freaked. out. Now, I have to explain that I do have panic & anxiety disorder. I know it's a common thing to say, "I had a panic attack." But, I really had one that night. It was dark by this time, and once I got going on the bridge, I had a good few moments of thinking,"Oh My God, I'm not gonna make it over this." I had to resist a very strong urge to stop my car, right in the middle of this thing. I knew I couldn't do that, so I just tried my very best to focus on the end of the bridge and keeping the car as straight as possible. All I could think about was how it would feel to get off of it. I've read other comments, and I understand that to some people, this is no biggie, or they grew up with it, etc. And honestly, it probably is not a big deal to some. But to me...I can't explain the response I had, except to say it felt like sheer terror. I flashed back to the time when my best friend in the fourth grade convinced me to ride the "salt n pepper shakers" at the local carnival. I did, and I screamed the whole time lol. The cage-y feel of the bridge, and the tugging of my tires (I had to have been going pretty slow) made me feel like I was going to lose control. I mean, y'all. Lol this bridge is a you-know-what, if you have problems with bridges, heights, panic/anxiety, etc. do NOT take this bridge if you can help it. No joke - they really should have a warning sign. People, especially out-of-towners, just aren't used to driving this old/narrow/type of a bridge. If it's lasted since 1929, I'm sure it's made very well, and I can appreciate that. But, man, I will probably never cross it again, at least not driving myself. Needless to say, I will never forget the Brookport Bridge. Like someone else commented, I need a survivor t-shirt too lol.
Does this bridge have a factory near it or did it have a factory near it??
I said it was offered. I dont think we have a customer but we will let folks know. Castle with a moat and a swing train bridge entry.
Sounds great,Julie.Do you have a plan on how to remove the bridge?That looks like a tricky job for anybody removing a bridge.
Don't cut yourself on all that edge, kiddo.
They offered it to us. Sounds pretty neat for that person who wants a bridge.
Just read on another site that the railroad crossing signals were removed on this line meaning the rail line is decommissioned.The railbed or parts of it will be turned into a trail.As for this bridge the article did say that because of cost this bridge will not be repaired.The article didn't mention nothing about any sale of the bridge to anybody or re-use anywhere else.Doesn't look good.
Given the fact that imagery from 1905 shows no bridge at Park Road, I'm going to categorize this one as a mystery bridge.
Aforementioned imagery: https://books.google.com/books?id=5xBjpPdExPIC&pg=PT100&dq=C...
There are several bridges in the region this imagery could be of, such as the old iterations of the Butler or Dupont bridges.
Good information about it's history but two notes. It's not technically owned by Amtrak they only own the east abutment, NS actually owns the west abutment and the structure of the bridge was donated to the capital area transit authority in the 1990s and they currently own the majority of the bridge. The other note I have is about it potentially becoming part of the corridor one commuter rail. The idea has been floated, but because of how the ownership is currently, that deal would require the approval of both railroads and for MTA to be able to afford any repairs or upgrades on the bridge. Since both railroads on either side are currently active, increased foot traffic in areas around the tracks are a major liability to them, and the current condition of the walnut st. bridge implies the city isn't exactly rolling in dough. I would say there's little to no chance of that ever panning out.
David, your postcard is of the road bridge at Portage: https://bridgehunter.com/wi/columbia/bh81626/
Laara how wide is span you need to cross? Makes HUGE difference in cost. If 50 feet or less can span with a semi trailer for about 900 dollars DIY.
According to my Grandpa, who was in his 20s when the BRP was being constructed, this bridge was built by Italian stonemasons. He was courting my Grandma at the time and they were boarding at the Webb home. Grandpa worked on the Round Meadow Bridge just south of this one.
Anyone interested in buying the navigation lights (both) from the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad's, Calumet River Bridge.
Both are functional and still have their original multi year patina.
These two lights were acquired when the remains of the bridge, went to scrap.
Are any of these bridges for sale? We have land in Cleveland county out on Stella Road and have a large canyon we'd like to span. If some are for sale, please give me an idea as to price and possible delivery.
I don't immediately recognize this location although I have been in Frankfort several times. The river is about the right size to be the Black Vermilion. The Black Vermillion River has been channelized through the town.
I noticed that the railroad bridge appears to be a Pegram Truss. This might indicate Union Pacific Railroad.
Looks like a railroad bridge in the background.
Any Kansas bridge hunters know where this was?
Continental Divide Race Park, north of Denver near Mead.
Continental Divide Raceways, South of Denver near Castle Rock.
This bridge is not on the Germantown Rd! It crossed the Miami & Erie canal just north of the downtown area at today's junction of Verity Parkway (former canal) with Tytus Ave to the northeast and Main st to the southwest. In addition to the highway it also carried the electric traction line over the canal.