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Does anybody know what the building is at the one edge of the bridge?Is it tied in to the bridge in some way?
Believe only thing Done to bridge is that the railroad has dumped tons of stone around it. The arches in size i believe support that I grew up around the old Brostain 3rd creek viaduct. & yes when the rain is headed toward Statesville the shoal blocks the sound sometimes so in that case if your on the trustel you better haul ass .I've had to do so as a young man Still interesting after all these years. God Bless
Thanks Mike ! I was thinking about asking you and your wife to Tour Guide the Hazleton with me ! I've been over the Wabash Cannonball in June 2015 but ready to go Again.
Melissa, make sure you go early spring or the poison ivy will get you. Also, you must go in from the south. While your in the area, try to find Long Pond in Gibson. It's by the power plant in Petersburg. Also, Washington Rd near the town of Washington. AND Have you drove the Wabash Cannonball? Yee Ha! Lots of goodies in a small area! Plus lotsa ponies!
Orange temp sign said "bridge out" a few weeks ago as I was going past the west end of CR 290. I'll visit up close soon for status and update appropriately.
This elegant gentleman is still with us.
Heavy rain had swollen the Big Black River when I visited yesterday and in 90 minutes, I only counted 12 cars. Fast moving water, but the entire bridge spans the river, and the piers were in pretty good shape visually.
Thankfully, the potholes on the east side probably keep a lot of the thru traffic down.
Carry on, fine old gentleman.
finally collapsed on January 16, 2019.
Mike Daffron, this bridge is on my list for Spring 2019.
Phooey! I think a better location would be Big Bone Lick, Kentucky. It just rolls off the tongue, excuse the pun. Another bonus is that Sugartit is just around the corner
Melissa, a bit of a curveball as it's not exactly a bridge, per se but, there's an article/editoral from the Ames Tribune in which a ISU employee saying they should convert an interurban ROW to trail use, which would've included a few bridges in the area:
Besides the age this is one sturdy bridge that unfortunately is showing it's age.I am from Quakertown and might have been over this bridge.Would be nice if it doesn't get removed.
Thank you to James and Don. I appreciate your help!
Hey - how come I see a Delete button on the comment from October 14, 2012, by Butt-head?
That was me.
I and a friend visited many a bridge within 50 miles or so of Ames (also quite a few in northern Iowa) back in the day, spent a lot of time following rivers and streams and on canoe and tubing trips.
Wish I had photos.
That would be great. Long Dick Creek, which rises up in Hamilton County northeast of Ellsworth and enters the South Skunk River south of Story City already has, like a pony or two.
Also March 27, 1979 was a Tuesday as stated in the photo caption. 8^)
Agree with James - it is probably this bridge in the picture.
"The old Grand Tower & Carbondale was the next to go. Tracks to Grand Tower had been retained to haul coal to the Central Illinois Public Service electric plant near Devilís Backbone, but a derailment on March 27, 1979, destroyed the bridge over the Big Muddy River near Sand Ridge and the line was abandoned as a result."
We should relocate the Boner Bridge to cross Long Dick Creek in Story County, Iowa :')
On a side note, the recent photos of this bridge posted were very useful to me and did bring to my attention the fact that this is an altered bridge. The floorbeams are not original and the vertical member connections to the floorbeams are reconfigured, with all cast iron connection assemblies having been replaced. Also, extremely heavy pack rust on the upper chord plate.
...And yes Nick, that Rainbow Bridge does need to be rescued before Mother Nature finishes her reclamation of it! There has been talk for a long time about it... But NO action!
It could be, but hard to be for certain.
Some information I have seen has the Boner (Sorry, but I always snicker when I type this one!) Bridge being started as early as 1866.
It might be this one:
Letter to the editor from 1982 ! I haven't found anything else...
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but according to the advanced searches on this website, this is the oldest existing bowstring in it's original spot in the country. The open triple-bowstring in Indiana is one year younger. Are there any efforts in place that anyone knows of to give this old thing more recognition, or any known pushes for preservation? DANG 151 YEARS OLD
Hey Luke...would you help me with this ?
Great pictures in Mike's attached folder. I hope we can add them to the page.
Thanks to everyone for the comments about Nelson Bar Bridge and the photo. I tried to find a photo in my files, but the best I could come up with is a frame from an old 8 mm movie.
Seriously not a problem Luke. Let me know anytime.
Thanks Jeff !
Current bridge was built in 1977: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/211302968/
I'm working on this bridge would like more info from it's origination.
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Thanks Melissa! Trying to find info around the state.
Thankfully, a competitor site allows a set number of free page views per day per IP, and Newspapers lets clippings be viewed without an account, so I've not had to hound you too much yet.
NBI only refers to it as a stringer, and location was a guess by James.
Trusses removed? Referring to original listing info.....
updated *and* closed to traffic? that's disappointing.
have any pictures of the "update"?
Bit disappointing, good hike down old right of way, old bridge has been "updated", and closed to thru traffic
Both added Luke
I enjoy the low water crossing
I have an article about this bridge from the July 1952 "Railroad" magazine. It says construction started in 1887, total length was 10,560 feet and the nine overhead trusses were replaced with six new trusses. Also three new piers were built on the Kentucky side of the bridge. The new spans were added in one day each so the bridge could be closed as little as possible. As the new trusses were finished they were raised to the pier height and the old truss was slid off while the new truss was moved into place.
The 1952 story has the bridge at 10,560 feet. I added up the trusses and came up with 10,496 feet. The Railroad story states that approaches were converted to embankments during the life of the first bridge and total length was reduced to 7865 feet. I am wondering where the entry distance of 20,461 feet came from as I suspect it is an error.
Melissa, found a few images of https://bridgehunter.com/ia/story/bh81776/:
Photo 2 shows lining into the first several feet. People sometimes make nistakes....
Tunnel "0" is an abandoned, unlined single track railroad tunnel, approximately 800 feet in length and of inverted horseshoe section, with granite ashlar portal faces and wingwalls, and a stone masonry-lined bore.
I'm a little confused about that part. It's unlined, but it's masonry-lined?
For those interested, I have a couple of sets of aerial photos I have taken of the Rush County, Indiana covered bridges on my web site at:
I am planning additional flights to photograph more covered bridges in Indiana.
Damage found and slated for removal and replacement. https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/bethlehem/index.ssf/2018/04...
Yup... Looks about ca. 1900 to me.
Seriously love the photos with Snow
Fun, snowy visit today. Age of this thing? c. 1900'ish?
Am I missing something? This doesn't look like an arch. I'd guess box girder.
Stuck again for 3rd day in a row!!!!! Cancel everything !!
Also regret buying in the delta area due to constant bridge problems that are never fixed, constant work on 160. Almost two years of 1 lane for bridge being painted and now it doesn't work most of the time again!! What a humilation for Caltrans!
As per an article printed in todays Reading Eagle this bridge has been replaced and is open.How I found out about this bridge is a resident complained in the article that PennDOT has not repaved the approaches to the bridge.PennDOT said because the blacktop plants are closed they can't pave the approaches until spring.Sounds fishy to me.
Thanks, the erroneous scrap date stemmed from https://www.flickr.com/photos/albanygroup/16288863091/in/alb...
I walked this bridge into the 1970's. it wasnt removed until the 80's
The swing bridge was replaced between 2014 to 2016 with a cable-stayed bascule bridge. Key design innovations included abutments and bascule piers founded on bedrock constructed without de-watered cofferdams, a cable-stayed bascule bridge superstructure, an orthotropic deck to minimize structure depth/weight, and flood resistant machinery enclosures. The end product was an aesthetic bascule bridge that met the communities desire for a small scaled bridge that fit within the area, and which provides reliable bridge operation with easy maintenance and is a durable structure to last 70 years in a harsh marine environment with extreme tidal shifts.
MaineDOT - Owner
Cianbro Corporation, Pittsfield, Maine - Contractor
Hardesty & Hanover, New York, New York - Designer/EOR.
The Gut Bridge received 5 awards for design and construction:
1. 2017 ENR Regional Merit Project of the Year,
2. 2017 ACEC Maine Grand Conceptor Award,
3. 2017 Road & Bridges Top Ten Bridges of the Year,
4. 2017 NASHTO Americaís Transportation Award, and
5. 2018 NSBA award winning bridge (Prize bridge) in the movable span category.
Also, On the rare chance that it was there I checked for a plaque on the east side of the bridge, only thing there was spray painted tonnage marks, could not cross to check west side of bridge
I would argue that this one should be called " Harbor St. Bridge", I clearly saw this one at the intersection of Harbor and Gondola today, it is a continuation of Harbor street to the west where it crosses the Creek, unless there is a duplicate Warren 3 panel riveted bedstead just north of this spot which I sort of doubt.... possibly pin change south a bit just a tick west of Harbor and Gondola over the Creek
Thanks, Melissa. Several hundred abandoned bridges into hunting hobby, this is the oldest one I've visited still in it's original spot....excited, 151 years old, yow!!
Very pretty spot, Melissa!!
Amazing photos in the snow !
I actually was in contact with someone who has the blueprints for this bridge. As reported to me, the superstructure of the bridge was built in 1920 by Wisconsin Bridge & Iron works, and the substructure built by Widell Company. Eager for pictures!
This thing is a beast. 2nd line removed or never placed....looooong walk down recently-opened stretch of rail-to-trail to this one, at least one plaque removed but sounds like research has it at 1913 or so. Just a monster, and a beautiful spot. Fun visit.
Talked to locals to get access to this one - on private property. Tough getting clear pic through thick snow-covered brush, can't imagine in Spring and Summer, this thing must disappear completely in foliage
These spans are actually plate-lattice deck girders, a type that may be unique to the Northern Pacific railroad of the middle 1890s. This plate lattice type was originally used on the NP main, for replacing first generation wooden Howe truss bridges. See "Standard Plans for 100-Ft. Through Plate-Lattice Girder Bridges; No. Pac. Ry." in Engineering News of July 8 & 15, 1897 for design motivations, drawings, and details.
NP's several plate-lattice designs were briefly their standard for both deck and through girder bridges in the 85' to 105' range. The type apparently fell out of favor as locomotive weights increased, probably due to the difficulty of strengthening the lattice section. Main line spans would have gradually been recycled to branch lines, probably by circa 1905-15. An original through plate-lattice girder, initially installed at Lightening Creek near Clark Fork Idaho, which carried builder's plates naming it as such into the 1970s, ended at Orofino Idaho on the Camas Prairie's very lightly rated Kamiah branch.
These Missoula spans represent a further reuse, made by partially dismantling several original twin girder deck spans, replacing the lateral bracing, and reassembling them as triple girder spans. I suspect this occurred during the 1930s. The resulting capacity increase, from about E-33 to E-50, would have strengthened them sufficiently to carry the branch line engines that originally displaced them from the main. There may still be a second example, located about 1.5 miles north of Palouse, Washington, along highway 27. I am not aware of any others.
I have to say, it's a little depressing seeing dozens of wrecked historic bridges.
Noting that this bridge was built by a small interurban, it appears that the trusses on this bridge are actually older than 1905. It also seems that there are two different designs on this structure.
was built by a major railroad but purchased and moved by a small electric railroad. It appears a similar situation may have happened here, and further research will be conducted.
Art,i'm using a new laptop and I screwed up by printing that message 3 times.As for what i said i'm going to look at this bridge when I can because of the material they're using on the bridge and plus i'm very curious.
Art,this sounds like a great idea.I'll have to look into this when i'm in the area.
Sadly demolished between 2015 and 2016.
They're the same pics with newer URLs. Note how the latter part of the strings are the same in both those and the dead links.
Dave's info didn't give a bridge type, but the location matches, and the trusses look to be from the period where lally columns were still in use.
the image links no longer work. I found 2 in the RRHS photos of Monte Rio (well, they appear to be the same image, with some work done on one of them). Not sure if they're the same or not.
These were present on some but not all of the round tension members (the bridge has some round and some rectangular tension members). While some were at midpoints, one weren't (the one I took a picture of). Then again, on one of them one side of the brace was no longer attached, so it's possible that they were all originally ad midpoints.
I didn't think to look at whether Haupt Creek or Gualala have any round tension members. I have a picture of the repair on Haupt Creek and it's rectangular. The other photos I took aren't good enough for me to determine if any of the tension members are round.
I also noticed 2 locations on this road where there used to be bridges parallel to the road, with foundations still present and the road now downhill of the foundations. I'm curious as to what went on there. The region sees a lot of ground motion, to the point that there were I think 8 sections that are now gravel (some of which are paved, with a centerline, on both sides of the gravel), I wonder if they decided it was cheaper to move it rather than maintain the old bridges.
I'm also a little surprised that none of the 3 have any posted weight limits. I'm not sure if you could get a typical semi to this one, as there are some very significant angle breaks on the road and I'd be afraid of high centering, but Skaggs Springs you absolutely could.
Luke , you added this in 2015. Do you think the photo matches the bridge description?
Thanks Art !
You're welcome Luke. Post any links you need photos of. You've certainly done enough to help me over the past 3.5 months.
Thanks so much Melissa! The plaque looks King-y so that gives us the builder of one of DSM's lost bridges.
I don't have/can't re-located links to anything else right now, but if I find something I'll be sure to forum post it for you to work your magic.
Art, thanks. I definitely need a Bridge Hunting 101 course.
If you stay with it, and you get a sense for how the various designs work, you'll start seeing how each maker solved the design issues and details before standardization. It's almost like an artist's signature style.
Here is a bridge with similar characteristics: http://bridgehunter.com/oh/putnam/6931928/
In my opinion, CBW made particularly elegant and usually ethereal bridges. A particularly nice example is Peevy Road Bridge: http://bridgehunter.com/pa/montgomery/467046040002310/
Gallman is pretty as well: http://bridgehunter.com/oh/licking/gallman-road/
This little bowstring is the only CBW built bridge still existing in IL that is listed on Bridgehunter: http://bridgehunter.com/il/adams/bh53514/
The tunnel has large metal doors that protect during hurricane. I've seen it open during some hurricanes. The tunnel has massive pumps to pump out water and the doors can close pretty quickly. During hurricane Isabelle one of the tunnels in the area failed to close its doors and the tunnel was flooded for several days.
Art, thanks !
The picture is of a three span Pratt Truss, so its not the same structure. I can't say it its anything as to the location.
My guess (based on engineering logic but not experience) is that its some sort of rig to tune the bridge or a way to reduce the resonance for seismic activity protection.
The bridge seems to have lost much of its original detail so some of the original mechanisms to adjust the tuning/loading of the tension members may not function and this could be a patch. If the tension members are pushed apart, it may help in keeping the tension evenly distributed between the two members (the looser rod will bow out more than the tight one) if the adjustment devices no longer work.
Also, by connecting the tension members at their midpoint, the resonance frequency is increased and the amplitude is reduced (the seismic reason).
https://bridgehunter.com/il/macon/bh46491/ are these the same bridge ? Photo is described as County Line Bridge over Sangamon River
Thanks Mike. It would be nice to find photos of intact bridges but apparently that was not newsworthy.
Well, Melissa, your recent newspaper pix have shown me one thing: Idiot drivers have been screwing up good bridges for a long time and not only in Indiana! Keep up the good digging!
From the Decatur Herald dated May 7 1964...
Any guesses as to what these are for? They were on a few braces, in different locations.
Luke, it's posted.
Art, it amazes me you can tell that from this photo. I'll read the article Nathan wrote too.
Melissa, I found a page with a straight-on shot! With a plaque!
I am not certain it is. However, there are clues in the design, The vertical elements are single, rolled, beams while other elements indicate an early pin connected truss. David Morrison (the company's founder) was quite creative and innovative. He used these rolled beams instead of built up beams decades before others did. The designs tend to be simple slender and elegant.
Nathan has a nice write-up about the company on his site. I blame him for getting me hooked on them :^)
Now that they are replacing Patricksburg Road bridge, we only have a few bridges of metal left in Owen. I am sad. This fellow needs to be restored!
Yes, we got some snow today. But now we have freezing rain. Great bridge. Someone needs to fix this, Aquaduct and Jeffers. They would make an excellent trail.
I have been past this so many times and TODAY was the FIRST time I have seen these remains!! Really crappy here in Indiana at the moment, but I'm gonna trek out, and seek new sites, to boldly go... you know. Will post better pix ASAP.
Love the snow !
I have drove by this structure a hundred times, but can't get too close because it is swamp conditions at all times. Will still try when the ground hardens up>