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I made a mistake it was built in late 1889 and burned in
early 1890 but still less than a year. I am still trying to find the cause of the fire.
Built and burned in 1892. There's a story here.
This is the bridge,Dana and Kay.The Reading Eagle article mentioned 1925 as the build date so I really don't know myself.
George not sure NBI lists 1927 build date. Maybe this one?
Read in yesterday's Reading Eagle that construction will begin starting next Monday on this bridge.Replacement is expected to last 10 weeks.Detours will be in effect during construction.The bridge carries 7,400 vehicles on average.Built in 1925,the bridge is structurally sufficient.The precast concrete replacement bridge,known as a box culvert will have no weight limitations and is expected to last 100 years.This bridge,which will come in pieces,will be assembled on site and installed which allows for the 10 week project.This bridge is part of the Rapid Bridge Replacement Program.This bridge also is neither of the other 2 bridges on this highway.I checked on that.
Think this one was road not RR
Erie was also a fan of quadrangular lattices.
I am not sure of the total count, but New York State has some too, it appears the New York Central Railroad used lattice trusses (quadruple intersection) sometimes.
There are a few highway lattice trusses in America, not many though.
Here is one of the New York Central lattice trusses:
As near as I can tell the cables were supplemental intended to reduce oscillations from pedestrian usage. I was hoping to find a definitive answer of "what type of bridge was this" but its not clear. It might be loosely called an "extradosed concrete truss bridge" but I am not sure if that is appropriate, although extradosed bridges rely less on the cables for support than a full-blown cable-stayed bridge. The spans were definitely concrete trusses, and were definitely supposed to be self-supporting after moved into position over the roadway before the tower cables were installed. I selected some sheets from the Design/Build proposal that has renderings and prelim drawings (including showing the erection sequence) and attached them here. Currently a lot of the project documentation can be found here: http://facilities.fiu.edu/projects/BT-904.htm
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Hearty old thing. Pretty remote, low traffic area would seem.
The original bridge consisted of three truss spans. The middle span was destroyed during a 1997 flood and was replaced by a temporary Bailey span. The new bridge opened in 2005.
Here is a link to a page about the new bridge. http://migration.kentucky.gov/Newsroom/kytc.d6/McKinneysburg...
Wow - great stuff, thanks for the very thorough info....quite unique and beautiful
Cool old rhing. VERY long pedestrian bridge. Like the outrigger-type things holding the pipes. Neat history.
It's a standardized bridge design, so the image is more than likely of one in Kearnes county.
One thing worth noting is that these were exclusively railroad bridges. Based on the count given by bridgehunter, I've found these counts:
10 left in Kansas
21 left in Illinois
15 left in Iowa
3 left in Michigan
5 left in Minnesota
8 left in Nebraska
23 left in South Dakota
21 left in Wisconsin
Three railroads in the midwest/western states used these designs, including Union Pacific, the Chicago & North Western and the Rock Island. The C&NW used them between the late 1870s and late 1920s, while Rock Island used them between the late 1870s and about 1900, and Union Pacific exclusively used them in the 1890s and early 1900s. The design evolved relatively little between the 1870s structures of Leighton Bridge & Iron Works and the 1920s structures of American Bridge Company
I have attached a picture taken of a bridge in Texas during a flood in early 1947 or late 1946. The picture was developed in Feb 1947. I had always thought that this bridge was somewhere in Karnes County (possibly over the San Antonio River). But after viewing pictures of the Guadalupe River Bridge, I'm wondering if this is a picture of that bridge instead. Any thoughts? Thanks, Lori
There are a few of these lattice trusses left in Kansas. If you want to see a large number of them you would want to head for the Upper Midwest and Great Lakes area. The Dakotas, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan have a massive number of these bridges. I believe that New England might have a few examples as well.
Most examples outside of Kansas, are quadrangular intersectional lattice trusses. Most examples in Kansas are triple intersectional lattice trusses. The triple intersectional variety is rarely found in other states.
This is the bridge,Dana and Kay.You are correct.
Ran into this one by accident leaving the Jellison Bridge across street on Ft. Hays State Univ. campus - a beauty, my 1st lattice bridge - many left in Kansas?
did this bridge carry us 61 in the 30rds
George Might be this one!
A hydrograph used by the Army Corps of Engineers?Never heard of that being used by them especially around a bridge.Here in Pennsylvania they built reservoirs and dams.Maybe this is something I don't know of.
I just saw on the map that the Moselem Creek flows under both of these bridges which can confuse people about the article about the bridge on Rte. 143 getting replaced.This bridge is not getting replaced.
Nice pony truss,Dana and Kay.The bridge i mentioned that's getting replaced is on Rte.143 between Rte.662 and Moselem Church Rd. Over Moselem Creek.
I found this photo postcard among my fathers pictures.
Still exists. Is part of trail program now.
Its gone, judging by its aerial view.
It's not a out house it's a hydrograph used by the army corps of engineers.
Closed until 9/18.
George this is 1905 bridge
Whoops duplicate deleting
George Looks Like a 1905 Steel truss just upstream from Hard Hill Road Bridge!
This bridge was demolished based on google aerial view
Apparently this bridge fell some time ago as my friend and fellow bridge lover went up there and its gone. She said there are debris for it.
Just read in the Reading Eagle this bridge on Route 143 over Moselem Creek will be replaced starting Monday and Route 143 will be closed to traffic with completion in early june.This bridge is a 72-foot-long,33-foot-wide prestressed concrete box beam bridge that was built in 1961 and has an average daily traffic volume of 1,217 vehicles.
My wife and I frequently walk our dog along the Dakota Rail and we noticed this bridge. It stands out as there is no embankment around it, looks so odd standing all alone like that. If anyone has any history on it I would love to hear it.
Blount County Commission voted, in the interest of public safety, to close a 0.2-mile segment of Dumas Bridge Road leading to the already-closed Dumas Bridge; the right-of-way is not to be abandoned or vacated, pending possible future replacement of the bridge.
The road is gated; however, the gate that restricting access to vehicles and foot traffic on public property appears to be privately installed. This attempts to vacate or abandon right of way to Blackburn Fork. The bridge is no longer present.
USGS stream survey property measuring flow remains unaffected.
This historic bridge, a Miami-Dade landmark, could become redundant after the completion of the FIU-Sweetwater University City Bridge, on the other side of 109th Avenue from this bridge. However the collapse of that new bridge during construction will prolong the need for this bridge, likely for quite a while.
I am at a bit of a loss to categorize this bridge type from the artist's rendering of the completed bridge. (Regardless of its collapse.) I think it may be primarily a truss bridge, with the cable stays there only for reinforcement in case of a Category 5 hurricane, which it had been designed to withstand. If so, what kind of truss is it? I guessed "Warren with all verticals" but I could be wrong on that. It's kind of half of a Pratt. Each panel is different.
Itís also worth noting that it appears that the bridge in the Postcard was relocated to Washington State:
Iím hoping as the western states become more developed on Bridgehunter, that we can find more Pegrams. I would assume thereís still a handful that we donít know about.
Actually these old bridges are/were on Verdigris River. I grew up around there for over 60 years. Looking closely at Google maps it shows Bird Creek turning back north and tying into Navigation Channel, the old Verdigris River channel is much wider than Bird Creek.
This bridge should be listed on C3030 (Bible Hill Road), with an NBI Structure Number of 101422003314221. That lists it as Year Built of 1919 and is confirmed by Lat/Long in NBI.
There is another similar bridge, Best's Covered Bridge, carrying C3037 (Churchill Road) which has the NBI Structure Number 101422003414221 and lists a Year Built of 1890.
The location of the bridge in the postcard appears to be the same as the railroad bridge just south of the K-18 highway bridge BH47755. A 1955 USGS map shows this as a U.P. bridge going over Wildcat Creek. The present bridge was probably built to handle the heavy loads going to Fort Riley. There is a second bridge in the background of the postcard which is probably a Rock Island bridge. The hill in the background also fits well at this location.
This detail, late 1860s for the bowstring. Slotted and square. Not round, threaded with a nut.
That was my first thought but the crossing is much too large and the road alignment doesn't work. I considered most of the other crossings; they didn't fit for one reason or another.
Also, the text on the card is vague enough that it works.
Here's a link to a video about the history of the bridges in that location. http://www.scorphq.com/YouTube/pg.php?v=hs4ZXHbB30E
The image at the provided link seems to show a Pratt Truss structure, not a Warren Truss.
It looks like there were at least 2 spans of a truss bridge here in the 1952 and 1962 images from historicaerials.com. I think from the images there is at least 1 pier to the NE that never got a span (maybe more, the images aren't great). They may have wanted to connect Jersey Avenue in the Southwest to the other side of the creek but never finished the project.
Clip of surveillance video shows a portion of the collapse:
The blame game begins:
Story includes a rendering (scroll down) of what the finished bridge was supposed to look like:
"FIU employee heard a loud crack crossing under the bridge. Hours later, it collapsed.":
"Construction Firms Behind Collapsed FIU Bridge Faced Accusations of Unsafe Practices":
Valid observation. Going to pull till sure.
You might consider the bridge between Hornell and North Hornell over the Canisteo River. The "North Hornell" name may mean the one to North Hornell rather the one on the north side of North Hornell.
Delusional as ever to believe that a university in Miami proper would've trucked in a bridge they know nothing about from the middle of nowhere on the opposite side of the state.
Also showing a distinct lack of tact, considering numerous people died, to have a preservationist wankfest.
This was a "Figg Newton" Bridge. Know all those ugly modern cable-stayed bridges in Florida? Figg Newtons. Designed by Figg Engineering, Figg Newtons are extremely ugly bridges.
A better choice for the university would have been to select a beautiful, time-tested bridge design, such as a relocated and restored historic metal truss bridge. Using a design that has functioned safely for over 100 years, and being inspected and restored by a company like Bach Steel, such a bridge would not carry any risk of collapse whatsoever, including both collapses due to faulty design, faulty materials, or faulty erection. Perhaps with careful engineering and substructure placement, this project could have instead been an opportunity to preserve the oldest surviving metal swing bridge in the United States, Florida's oldest metal bridge, the abandoned nationally significant, Drew Bridge, one of the most significant historic bridges in the country. Yet instead it sits on a slowly failing pier. http://historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=fl...
I think they were trying to prove something and I think they did!
(What they proved may not have been what they intended.)
Thanks Art, believe you to be correct. Had a break in snow and the lovely Kay was willing so actually road tripped to this Very spot. Going to put bowstring on page you created. Didn't take pictures a t Seneca but drove over it a few times during journey. Rt 70A Valley is fascinating. Not much there, few residences MANY with private steel wood deck private bridges. One fancy with Cast iron posts but not sure what posts where originally from. No sign of any old abutments. In a one mile stretch 3 Bridges, Two over Old Creek Road and Big Creek and one just over Big Creek. Look like stingers but surprisingly high. Slight art deco look to concrete oiers. will post a few of these. Only encountered one local who just was enquiring if we needed assistance. Chatted a little many trees down and power had been put all week. Liked his bridges also but knew no local history. Valley is narrow and probably post Wisconsin Glacer out flow and is through Blue stone( fine sandstone) not black shale as is common in area. Runs parralle to Rt 86 but worth a detour if going through. 1930's stringers but WAY cool valley.
I saw on ABC World News tonight how this footbridge was installed before it eventually collapsed.I was amazed that since it weighed an estimated 95 tons according to ABC News that steel or concrete truss beams of some sort were not installed under this bridge.This is one ABC bridge that failed.
Barking up the wrong tree.
The bridge either needs to be repaired or it needs to not be opened. Every other opening or so it gets stuck open and creates havoc on the residents due to traffic congestion. it is also opened at peak traffic times which makes the situation much worse for traffic. Someone will be in need of the ambulance one day while the damn thing is stuck open and they might not get the proper care in time. I see a lawsuit in the making. Fix the damn bridge.
I guess a nice burr arch covered bridge would have been too easy. They don't need the shade on hot days or a roof on rainy days in Florida?
To be honest they had not put up the tower and stay cables yet but I still don't understand the fascination with building bridges out of hardened mud.
I had to edit the bridge's info. The Wabash builder's plan is slightly misleading. It lists the bridge as 8 panels/118ft, but whoever drafted it neglected to add in the half panels at either end of the bridge into the total length. The main span is actually right around 150ft long.
A footbridge that was installed on the FIU campus in Miami on March 10th, 2018 has collapsed. 5-6 vehicles were crushed in the collapse.
This bridge was removed and replaced by a low grade crossing by the city of chillicothe a year or so ago. The city also owns the old line that it crosses.
per comment, not sure of exact loci
County 70 A Steuben County NY has 7 bridges over Big Creek. ALSO a couple over Big Creek Road which has 2 or 3 over Big Creek and is crossed by 70A. Run directly parallel. Have cut through there and noted plethora of bridges, notable only cause of density. Have ascertained pre 1930 many of these were bowstring ponies!Added an 8 mile stretch, next time through there will look for old abutments
Location here is a bit off. Coordinates are approx. 40į31'02.1"N 75į17'27.7"W
In the angled picture there are clearly no supports for the bridge, but when it was demolished there were two piers like the modern bridge has. I would assume the piers became necessary by the semis that used to pound 52 back in the 60's and 70's, which might also account for its relatively short lifespan.
I would love to know the story behind this picture. In looking at the dirt road that is now U.S. 52, I wonder if this could be the opening of the bridge?
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Question: Is anyone familiar with another area that has a stretch on bridges on one road over such a short distance? It is only .8 miles between DCL # 46 and DCL # 50. DCL # 44 is only about a mile to the east. I think this little jog should be seen by all!
Yes, the bridge has been replaced with the MOB ped. Pieces of the original have been made into "art" (?????)
This is not where Richardson Creek is. This would have been the old Thunderbolt Bridge. There is now the third generation span at this site.
Richardson Creek empties into the Bull River near a bridge across the Bull River further east on U.S. 80.
Photos 24 & 25. Also if you shut off the isometric view it clearly shows the MOB and the amphitheater.
I don't think an MOB is there. According to maps, the old bridge is still standing. Does anyone have proof that the MOB has actually replaced this bridge?
The art is clearly symbolic of man's inhumanity to bridges.
According to an article in the March 9 Herald-Mail, this bridge is undergoing a $1 million rehabilitation.
The bridge is closed to traffic as of 3/08/18
The bridge is closed to traffic as of 3/8/18
Looks like its finally being demolished for real.
Yet another dumb truck has damaged a bridge!
One less reason to visit Dayton, Ohio:
Eligibility report attached.
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Yes, there was a bridge before this bridge per HAER documentation, but I am not sure what type it was. It was noted that the previous bridge was in good condition, the main reason it was replaced was its design load capacity was not high enough. So it is quite possible you found remnants of the previous bridge.
Yes, looks like a MOB took over.
NRHP Nomination plus 1979 State Survey form attached as single PDF here.
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I am sad to report that this bridge has been demolished. According to the AR Dept. of Transportation, the date plaque from the bridge has been donated to the Natural Dam Community Center to be displayed there. The photo below was taken a few days before the bridge was taken down.
Hasen't this bridge been replaced?
The overhead bracing is not original. At first, I thought it was a replacement for original bracing. Then I noticed the bridge is configured as a Half-Hip Pratt. Then I found the NRHP Nomination... If the NRHP nomination (attached) is accurate, this bridge was originally a pony truss! Never heard of a half-hip pin connected pony truss of this span length.
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When was this railroad bridge built?
Closed for 5 months due to cracks; now open:
Being retired, replaced and 'monumented' meaning the deck and approaches removed and the remains stabilized:
Highlights of the demolition of the Savanna-Sabula Bridge here: http://thebridgehunter.areavoices.com/2018/03/12/savanna-sab... This beauty will be missed dearly..... 😥
downstream of the current bridge, back in the woods on the opposite side of the river, there appears to be another base for a previous bridge...I know this one was built in 1931, but was there one before this? Pic attached.
Miss the Smoot?
For your next bridgehunting trip...
A bridge that deserves to be measured in Smoots...
I have only made one drive over this bridge. It was late at night, so I did not get a good look at the bridge - other than knowing that it was a Pratt truss.
I returned shortly thereafter and found that the bridge had been closed. It has always been in rough condition since I can remember - ie bullet holes in the plaques. The main difference is that one plaque is missing now.
Nathan did a good write-up of this bridge on his website. He noted that the bridge has had some modifications over the years.
First photos in some time, doesn't look like much has changed except a few nails defying gravity off the decking, some horizontals thrown about the north side, and some rust/gunshot through the one existing plaque on south side, quite a beauty, hard to believe cars and trucks still trying to balance on running boards a short 17 years ago when still open.
Here are some pics.
Out of the dirt. Definitely caused damage being in the dirt.