Yeah and people don't realize its not like computer games and movies... its not like its a smooth ramp up to the top... the gap between approach and bridge leaf is huge.
Those gates come down for a reason!
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An 1869 article in the Railway Locomotives and Cars, Volume 42 explicitly states Keystone, and a later publication from the Journal of the Western Society of Engineers and an HAER document on one of the 1870s approaches cite Keystone as the builder of the 1868 spans.
Railway Locomotives & Cars Article (1869):
Journal of the Western Society of Engineers Article (1908):
HAER documentation on a relocated 1870s Pratt:
The photo appears to show Phoenix Columns. Perhaps Keystone Bridge Company erected the bridge, but purchased the Phoenix Columns from Phoenix Bridge Company. Maybe they purchased raw columns and used them for their own fabrication, which might explain the portal looking like Keystone's design. The company did indeed sell the columns individually. Note that the connection detail between columns is unusual, they are not the castings used by Phoenix Bridge Company. This further suggests a possibility that the columns were purchased by Keystone with other bridge fabrication carried out by Keystone. On the other hand, if Keystone did fabricate these columns, we would be looking at a patent violation.
Regardless of builder, these were unique spans. This bridge reused two spans,and there were two spans in Linn County Iowa that were replaced in the 20s. This leaves one or two 1868 spans unaccounted for. With some of the 1870s spans ending up in Mississippi, the unaccounted spans could have ended up virtually anywhere in the central US. However, I doubt they still exist.
I realized that I missed your point - the bridge was manufactured in 1868, relocated in 1900 and washed out in 1911. That timeline makes sense.
It still wasn't made by Keystone :^)
I failed to mention this. The 1872 spans added to the Dubuque bridge were keystone spans. I agree that the spans arenít Keystone. More research is required to find who indeed built the 1860s spans.
The compression members in the photo are Phoenix Columns. Keystone (Carnegie) fought Phoenix all the way up to the Supreme Court regarding the column patents. I highly doubt they would use their competitors products.
The bridge was built using spans relocated from Dubuque, Iowa. They were originally fabricated 1868.
Keystone is unlikely as the builder as the bridge was made using Phoenix Columns. Also, the build date is considerably earlier than 1900.
I was the bridge tender on this bridge as well as two bridges on the KK river during the late Ď70ís and early Ď80ís. My favorite time there was when the circus train would come to town and cross the bridge to be unloaded at CJ Transport, now Summerfest parking lot.
David, your postcard is of the road bridge at Portage: https://bridgehunter.com/wi/columbia/bh81626/
Manners Matter on One Lane Bridge. Car waiting on south side, while one crosses from the north. According to WisDOT, Smith Road Bridge is slated for replacement in 2019.
Current conditions abutments. North side and south side, close up of missing rubber/plate on northeast side.
I placed photos of the wreckage with the others--be sure you have a barf bag handy before you view them.
I stopped to see this bridge earlier today, and I wish I hadnít. Itís a truly heartbreaking sight. Damage is far worse than I imagined. It would take a miracle worker to fix this one :í(
The geography from google maps for the given location seems to match Luke's photo's foot hill.
Some local photos might confirm this.
This was the bridge over the Chippewa River before it was torn down in 2004.
A very interesting bridge. The trusses are confirmed to have been relocated from St. Paul, Minnesota. They were originally built in 1888 and moved here in 1915. However, the approach girders are also interesting. They are examples of some of the earliest girders I've seen for railroad use. A bridge in Minnesota built by the same railroad used 1879 deck girders (as confirmed by blueprints and railroad records):
Thoughts to the idea of the approach girders?
Quite a unique bridge. According to blueprints, the bridge was originally built in 1908, but the bridge was rebuilt and widened in 1912, hence the center girder being larger.
Does anyone happen to know what the clearance is under Spans D through M-48' Deck Girders? Wondering if my Hobiecat sailboat mast (26'6") would clear. Thanks.
Recent photo of South Smith Road Bridge is attached
Attached a recent photo I took of this beautiful bridge.
Hey man, I never said it was a GOOD idea. There are just some cool spots along the road that I thought would make good photos. I realize the road isn't really supposed to be driven. It would be a pain in the ass to get over that bridge anyway, the re bar is literally poking out of the concrete.
It's not open to cars, so...
Yo that bridge is falling apart, kinda dangerous, but pretty cool. That is so interesting that it was built in the 20's. Either way, hopefully I can get my car over that bridge safely so I can get the photo op I've been dying to get. Probably not though, that bridge seriously needs work, my friend who lives near it is just waiting for it to fall into the creek. Also I should point out it is presently vandalized to hell, some hicks from my class in high school drove their trucks out there to spray paint the living crap out of it. Either way, cool road, cool bridge, seems like a good place to drive on pavement with non-road legal vehicles if you feel like cruising on a minibike or something.
Unfortunate that they will not be reusing the truss..just one more span to bring in a new trail span for.
I've been getting pics almost daily of the work crews dismantling the bridge. Here's one of them bringing the truss span over to the work area by barge. It was then rolled off on dollies and cut up and hauled away.
Another one bites the dust.
Work has begun on replacing one of the few steel truss spans on the State Highway system with a modern UECB.
This bridge now bears a sign which states "Joseph Brault Memorial Bridge 1824-1888".
Below is a link to Peshtigo Times Newspaper dedication.
You've gotten the bricked-up CNW tunnel confused with the still in use MILW tunnel: https://bridgehunter.com/wi/monroe/bh54347/
cp Railway is currently looking at putting in a cellular repeater in the tunnel. I don't know of any collapse or that it was ever bricked but it is in use.
The Cobban Bridge has been receiving news lately in light of winning the Ammann Awards for Bridge of the Year. A decision on the bridge's future and its replacement will come before month's end. More here: http://chippewa.com/news/local/cobban-bridge-wins-internatio...
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Bridge removed September 2015.
Source: Ozaukee Press newspapers,
09/09/2015 "HIGHLAND DRIVE TO BE CLOSED THREE WEEKS FOR RECONSTRUCTION"
10/07/2015 "HIGHLAND DRIVE EXPECTED TO REOPEN IN TOWN THIS WEEK"
According to "History of Waupaca County, Wisconsin" from 1890, this was the first bridge: https://books.google.com/books?id=VGZCAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA121&dq=f...
I enjoy seeing pictures of this bridge. However, they are slightly misplaced. They should be located on the page for the successor bridge:
I've heard rumors that this tunnel is currently being daylighted as part of a frac sand operation. Can anyone confirm this?
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This bridge was razed on November 9, 2017. Pre-and-post razing photos to follow
Based on the depth at the abutment I'm going to guess there aren't concrete stringers. This could be a concrete encased steel stringer or a concrete girder.
The three spans that are collapsing will be removed in early 2018. However, the swing span will remain in place.
Information from the Milwaukee Road Archives at the Milwaukee Central Library provided some information on this unique structure. The two pony truss spans were relocated from other locations. The 112' span demolished in 2002 was originally located in Oxford Junction, Iowa and built in 1899; while the 96' Span was originally located somewhere else.
Okay, I have only visited a very small number of bridges in Wisconsin, but based on what I've seen on here, this was probably one of the state's most significant pony trusses. It was an uncommon design and it was built by a local company. There are relatively few Bridges left built by the Milwaukee Bridge & Iron Works. No doubt about it, this is a terrible loss.
There are NO words...
So they demolished and replaced a preserved historic bridge that even had interpretive signage installed? Working with historic bridges, I see a lot of stupid things, but this is probably in the top ten! Wisconsin is weird because they never had many historic bridges to begin with, but this has not translated into an appreciation of what is left; the preservation rate remains very low. At this rate, soon the only reason to visit Wisconsin will be to...
Good golly, that is nasty--no point in wasting fuel to drive the 8 miles from my house to see it! Thanks for the head's up. EPIC FAIL!
You're gonna find a disgusting MOB: https://www.facebook.com/search/str/allenton+walking+bridge/...
I just saw a notice in our county newspaper that the dedication for the "New Walking Bridge" in Allenton is set for Friday, Nov. 3, 2017, a pic of the old bridge was the only pic there is...I am very fearful of what I'm going to find here, but I have to go check. I'll update with whatever nasty news I come up with! :'>(
This bridge is easily accessible with a street crossing on the north bank and public park on the south bank. Please use caution as rail traffic is frequent and they don't slow down much going through town.
On a side note... not too far to the east of this bridge is a 100+ year old suspended cable "swinging" footbridge that connects Gilman Public Park on the south bank of the Yellow River to South Riverside Drive on the north bank. Sadly I did not know its significance or I would have photographed it too.
Looks like a rather lightweight Warren truss and could be an older example. Chicago Bridge and Indiana Bridge were both building them in the 1890's.
A bridge/the driveway appears in 1967 aerial views from historicaerials
I just discovered this bridge on Google Earth--it's on a private driveway, and as such, has no NBI data associated with it. I don't know how long it has been since the bridge serviced a public road, but the bridge appears to be built in the early 1900's or 1910's.
I rode the #10 streetcar over this viaduct every workday from 70th and Main St (We lived on S. 68th and Main - newly married) to Allen Bradley. I can't remember if it was the 3rd St bus or the 6th St bus that took me from Wells to Greenfield and AB. It was a wonderful ride. I looked forward to the adventure each day. Thank you for the correct information on the bridge, and I found a great photo of the streetcar courtesy of the Milwaukee County Historical Society. I love that it was designed by a man from Pomerania, as am I by way of my ancestry. I am 82 years old and rode the trestle, as I called it, in the years 1955 and 1956.
And a 169 Average Daily Traffic count gives even more reason that a restoration is the more feasible option!
Also, that supposed $13 Million price tag to restore the bridge is an inflated joke and nothing more than an attempt to thwart preservation... Unless they are planning to Gold plate it!
Its also a meaningless decision until Section 106 is conducted (as far as I know it hasn't been unless they have conducted it without my knowledge despite requesting consulting party status). No Section 106 = No Federal Funds.
Irresponsible and short-sighted decision, but sadly it seems to be ingrained into government officials in Wisconsin that history means nothing and these landmarks are simply scrap metal... Truly sad indeed!
This historic bridge is closed indefinitely. The Chippewa County Board voted to build a replacement bridge if Federal and State money is approved. It appears as though the historic bridge will soon be demolished to make room for the new bridge that may be competed by 2021. Anyone want to buy a beautiful old bridge?
County Board votes to replace shuttered Cobban Bridge
Preliminary studies are under way for the eventual replacement of this bridge. A likely scenario involves keeping the girder approach spans and replacing the main truss span. No design concepts have been proposed yet. A detailed inspection and load rating of the approach spans is just getting started. Any replacement project will be at least 10 years down the road, but be forewarned!
Bridge was struck by a coal ship today. The ship also damaged a recreational boat and dock.
County Road M Columbia County UP bridge is completed.
Several stringers were replaced on the wooden bridge at Sterk Road
(next bridge in line from M) on 7/11/2017. Several repairs are still needed .UP no longer owns the bridge.
I Had put up a postcard view. Mr. Butler did a drawing, I deleted and then re added postcard view to make his the default. My preferences are on site photos , then drawings then historic views. Sorry if I caused a controversy BUT was my action to make Drawing default photo. Hate at me if you like!
I agree. I've seen enough of these pen-and-ink scribbles to last a lifetime.
I vote we re-make the postcard the default image.
Got it. Thanks as always
Dana, the image you posted belongs on https://bridgehunter.com/wi/sauk/bryant-street/
This bridge is supposedly going to be replaced with a new drawbridge in 2022.
The trusses have now been moved to a static display.
New location described as "the far east side of the park as part of Harbor View Trail near De Neveu Creek"
I grew up a block from the west end of this bridge. Made many a trek out to the island. The trains stopped running in 1973 when the tracks washed out east of Kellner. Good memories.
I believe that Robert was referring to the category that was assigned to the bridge, not the location. There is no dispute that this is the correct bridge, location, and it is the Fox River--however, the category that was previously assigned was the Fox River that passes between Green Bay and Appleton--Wisconsin has 2 Fox Rivers, which makes things confusing. This Fox River originates just north of Waukesha and passes through Burlington and down into Illinois. Just wanted to clear things up.
As this original photographer of the image shown I can guarantee that it is just south of Burlington, WI and is not in Illinois. While in high school in the late 1990s I worked for a horse farm that owned the land which is how I had access to get that picture.
Thoughts on one of the left spans being moved to this location?
It's very nice that as part of the White River State Trail, the bridge is publicly accessible. The slats are all there and you can look down between the slats at the Fox River. With Bushnell Park on the east bank and the dog park on the west bank, there's a ton of public space to view/photograph it... unfortunately that also means more graffiti.
I was out there in early April. Its a shame, but it's in sad shape. If it doesn't get some attention, it won't be long before it gets replaced. It's a beautiful piece and fits the rustic landscape in the area.
The location of this bridge is mis-identified. That is understandable, because of the confusion of the existing Pike River and the buried and invisible Pike Creek. The Main Street Bridge on 6th Ave was located south of 52nd Street at the Kenosha Harbor, about 20 blocks south of where it is shown. That Main Street Bridge crossed not only the mouth of Pike Creek, but also the harbor line (AKA Simmons Spur) of the C&NW railroad. After Pike Creek was fully enclosed in a drain tile back in the 1960s and the rail line closed when the factory was torn down, that bridge was redundant and was removed some time in the late 1990s.
Incidentally - the pre-1920s swing bridge was not torn down, but was moved over to 50th St, at the entrance to Simmons Island Park until it was finally replaced in the 1980s. [http://www.kenoshanews.com/news/history_mystery_downtownarea...
Wow! Despite what the updates say... I only fixed the coordinates once! ;-p
That really stinks! A rather unique bridge with the rounded upper chord/endpost angles. It never ceases to amaze me how clueless people really are!
***odd***. Sometimes voice recognition fails.
Well that is a shame. This was a very interesting little bridge. It reminds me of those are paired angle pony trusses in Kansas and Missouri.
A sad day in our world, I received news today that this bridge has been destroyed by an overweight gravel truck. The stories due to recklessness and clueless truck drivers is getting out of control.
If it did replace an 1850s structure, it would have been built in the 1880s in Michigan. This is the original structure here. Nathan or anyone in that region, do you know if there are archives for the Michigan Central Railroad?
I've seen that U-bar once, maybe twice... Very unusual
I'm more inclined to think that it replaced an 1850 structure.
Looks like an 1880s or maybe early 1890s Carnegie font to me.
Looking through the photos; I can only make them out on laced members. I did not pay attention to the Carnegie marks when I visited, as I assumed it was a cut and dry date situation.
The sway bracing and portal bracings do not look like they belong on this bridge. In addition, I see a special type of connection (what I've always referred to as a U-Bar) on the underside of this bridge. These type of connections are most common on the 1870s and 1880s trusses that I've seen.
I would think if this bridge date to the 1850s, it has been extensively rebuilt and not much remains of the original structure, specifically the main frame components.
How many members on this bridge have Carnegie mill marks?
Numerous sources indicate the bridge was built in 1850. The floor beams this bridge has tell me it's very old. I suspect it could have been heavily rebuilt. 1850 would make this the oldest railroad truss I know of.
...Could have been acquired from elsewhere and moved here in 07'.
I agree John that it's kinda light for a post-1900 RR span, But that 1850 date is even a bigger stretch! I would say more like 1885-1895 maybe.
This bridge appears to be far too light for a 1907 railway bridge. In addition, it matches this structure:
Which was reportedly built in 1850 by the Michigan Central Railway. Input?
The bridge was designed by Ferry & Clas (not Class).
The following report by the City of Milwaukee's Historic Preservation Office says it's believed to be the only bridge jointly designed by George Bowman Ferry and Alfred C. Clas, renowned Milwaukee architects who designed many major civic commissions. They also designed a nearby pavilion and the Grand Staircase as part of a neoclassical cluster in Lake Park.
Thanks Robert.That's the one.
The one upstream of Burger Boat? Yes, I've posted that one.
That's the one,Dana and Kay.Thanks for answering that question.
George This may be the one you see, cool bridge!
I noticed if you follow the rail line that this bridge is on there is an abandoned truss bridge between Revere Dr and Michigan Ave.Is this bridge on Bridgehunters?
They're only six railroad Abt types are in use for as 3 in Michigan and 3 in California and one been removed in Texas.
As always THANK YOU!
Dana, this bridge and the one pictured on the "older bridge" page are the same bridge.