Photo taken by Bill Eichelberger
BH Photo #231363
this bridge still stands i think. in bad shape. it was not built in the 70's. i don't believe because i believe it was there when i was there as a kid and i'm in my 60's. it is where the guy said it is by the antique shop. i'm sure alot of people have a picture of this.
Well, I saw it for the first time in 1975, so it's almost 40 at the very least. It looks like just a bunch of welded angle iron. My guess would be 1960's-70's, but it's just a guess.
I cannot tell what the age of the bridge is. If it is riveted, it is noteworthy. Are there rivets? If it is welded, and is pre-1940, its noteworthy.
All things considered, I have my doubts about the inclusion of this bridge on here. It's like driving several hours to see a 19th century covered bridge and finding something that was built in 1971 out of the scraps from the family room project. That might just be me, though. ;-)
I filed a complaint through YouTube and the video in question was gone within a few hours. Pretty impressive. I also got an apology from the guy who posted it, who is an English teacher. He said that he just assumed that the photo was in the public domain since it was on Flickr and used it. He remembered the bridge from trips he made to Gatlinburg as a kid, which was why I took the picture in the first place. He mentioned something about the possibility of continuing to use the picture, but I'm not sure how I'm going to respond to him just yet. I'm a bit conflicted about the idea.
In most cases, I would think that you are right about contacting them directly. My suspicion is that this was a foreign site - ie the type that SOPA was directed at (although I think that SOPA was the wrong approach, but that is a different topic for a different day).
Thus, I don't think that contacting those guys, which I did, would have done much good.
It is my understanding that current law provides for "automatic copyright" That is, if you create intellectual material, it is by default copyright, even if you don't have the old fashioned copyright notice. Doesn't matter if you post it on the Internet. The only exception is if you post your intellectual material to a third party website like Facebook or BridgeHunter, their policy, if they choose to have such a policy, may allow them to gain rights to your materials.
If someone used your photo without permission I would try contacting them directly. Chances are it was a misunderstanding and they will fix it.
I am in complete agreement about letting others use photographs with permission. I have had a few people ask to use some of my photographs, and I have always said yes. Trust me, I photograph numerous things other than bridges.
If I get a few royalties off my bridge photographs, so be it. If I don't, well I will just enjoy my time behind the lens.
My main beef is with anyone who uses my images without permission or credit, claims them as their own images, and then profits off of them. I think this is what that afforementioned site was trying to do with my photograph they got off here. (I have since deleted that pic). Some people seem to think that if a photograph, article, musical performance, etc is on the internet, then it is automatically in the public domain.
For now, all of my photographs on here are as "all rights reserved", but if someone wants to use them, I will gladly grant permission on a case-by-case basis.
Tony, got a link?
I've always allowed people to use my photos as long as they've asked. So far it's earned me wealth beyond my dreams, as long as my dreams were nothing more than a calendar and a copy of a magazine article. I gave the calendar to my Mom and lost the magazine article, but I can puff out my chest and say I'm a published photographer. Whoopee. At the moment, I have a bunch of Arkansas school kids doing art projects based on some old theaters I photographed last summer. All I'm getting out of it is some eventual photographs of the finished works, but that's more than enough. The fact that they did me the courtesy of asking first means everything. I'm not a difficult, tempermental artist. I'm a guy who likes beer and pizza and the occasional trip to a forgotten backwater with a camera in his pocket.
Exciting stuff huh Jules?
Gotta admit this has been some interesting dialogue however!
replacement bolts.... yippee
I couldn't agree with you more Bill...they need to ask and not assume.
I had the company that manufactured all of the replacement bolts for the Moscow Covered Bridge contact me about using one of my pics for their web site, and I was happy to oblige!
That's hardly an excuse for theft.
:-D Far out. My artistic sense is famous and I had no idea.
Kind of a creepy way to operate. I'm sure they have better cellphones than I do. Can't they go out and take their own pics? It can't be that hard if I can figure it out.
Based on Google Earth, the bridge still exists. It's to the right of a place called Morton's Antiques. The picture is watermarked with a 2011 date, so chances are it is still standing. Can't say I'd cross it, though.
Luke, the bridge is geo-tagged on my Flickr page. I believe the pic was taken in 2004, so there is a good chance it no longer exists. It was in pretty rough shape in 2004, but it was one of the few things in town that I remembered from a family trip in 1975. Well, the bridge and Hillbilly Golf. :-D
Thanks, Robert. I'll give that a try.
I found a website using one of my photographs without permission (no credit). I reported them to Google, and within a couple days, they disappeared from Google's search results. It might just be a coincidence, but perhaps Google did in fact drop them.
Yeah, I hate it. I also hate that they used my photo without credit. ;-)
Imagine my surprise.
Now to find where it is in Gatlinburg
Looks like a "Not-so-modern" MOB.
Might have enough age on it to warrant some historic consideration.
The music in the video is rap, you will probably hate it.
Interesting how I discover a bridge when I'm looking for music.