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Posted October 5, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Yep, I think that we have a misprint...

Posted October 5, 2017, by Oliver

..........That's only .1612 Smoot........

Posted October 5, 2017, by David (volcrano [at] gmail [dot] com)

This tunnel is listed as 0.9 feet long, which seems short.

Posted October 3, 2017, by Timothy Jones (Swamphawk12 [at] Yahoo [dot] com)

The plaque is located on the first pier about half way up the side. It is on the very first pier on the Warren County side of the Caney Fork River. This pier is on dry land and the brick work is excellent. It is excessable via Cotten's Marina, just off of old Hy. 70S (The Rock Island Road).

Posted September 24, 2017, by Dave (potiukd [at] gmail [dot] com)

This is the kind of bridge they should be building today instead of the ugly utilitarian structures that have taken their place.

Posted September 14, 2017, by David Backlin (us71 [at] cox [dot] net)

I visited this bridge September 15th, 2017. Construction is well underway on the new bridge, though I don't anticipate completion until 2018

Posted September 12, 2017, by David Backlin (us71 [at] cox [dot] net)

The original bridge was built circa 1890

Posted September 6, 2017, by Bobby Hill (t55u687irt [at] gmail [dot] com)

boi you forgot the bridge type ima get an f in science project

Thomas Bridge (Tennessee)
Posted September 5, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Not only are the truss members buckling, but this bridge also has some severe section loss. I am afraid that this one is going to be fish habitat if nothing is done soon.

Thomas Bridge (Tennessee)
Posted September 4, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Well, this is a hidden gem! Hopefully Tennessee will preserve this one!

Thomas Bridge (Tennessee)
Posted September 4, 2017, by Timothy (timdaugherty1980 [at] gmail [dot] com)

How on earth did you get on the deck on this one?

I saw the wood was all rotted away! You are brave!

Posted September 2, 2017, by Keith Collier (Mkco11ier [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Hello. Are you familiar with the history of the Hickmam-Lockhart Bridge? My grandmother, Jennie Mai Hickman Collier, told me years ago that the bridge was originally named for her brother who died in WW1. I understand a state senator Lockhart later pushed to have his name added. I don't know the full name of her brother. Thanks, Keith Collier

Posted September 1, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Hi Brittany:

My suspicion is that the numbers indicate the clearance underneath the bridge. More specifically, they likely indicate the distance between the water and the bottom of the trusses.

Posted September 1, 2017, by Brittany Svoboda (countrygirlscrapper [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Why do the water gauge numbers go from top to bottom instead of bottom to top? I assumed if the 0 was at the bottom it would show how high the water is.

Posted August 22, 2017, by Brent McCoy (brentmccoycat [at] yahoo [dot] com)

how much railroad traffic travels over the bridge?

Posted August 11, 2017, by Kenton dickerso (Kentondi [at] comcast [dot] net)

This bridge was built by the Nashville, Chattanooga, and St. Louis Railway; not the Nickel Plate.

Posted August 11, 2017, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

The dedication sign shows the name for the US 70 bridge. When US 70 traffic was removed from this bridge the pedestrian bridge was designated the Bob Sheehan Memorial, keeping the Elmer Disspayne Sr designation for the bridge carrying the highway.

Posted August 10, 2017, by Nathan Delaplaine (ndelaplaine [at] gmail [dot] com)

This drawbridge is kinda rare to see opening with no traffic lights and no gates. This drawbridge still operates.

Posted August 10, 2017, by Nathan Delaplaine (ndelaplaine [at] gmail [dot] com)

This drawbridge is kinda rare to see opening with no traffic lights and no gates. This drawbridge still operates.

Posted August 9, 2017, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

US 70 was commissioned in 1926, so this bridge probably never carried it.

Posted August 9, 2017, by Bryan Collins (ponyboy [at] usmvmc-tn2 [dot] org)

Went exploring yesterday...found the bridge but couldn't get down to it.... Noticed a homeless person's camp, announced myself and was invited into the campsite... explained what I was trying to figure out and the homeless guy (Danny) showed me the hidden trails to get to the bottom.... So much fun!

(Repaid his kindness with a case of water and some food stuffs)

O&W Bridge (Tennessee)
Posted August 7, 2017, by Donna Martin (truewest [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Great News! In November 2016 Scott County was able to get a grant to refurbish this bridge. In March 2017 the wood on the bridge was replaced to make it safe for vehicle, foot and equine travel once again. The bridge leads into Big South Fork National River and Recreational Area where camping, hiking, mountain biking and equine trails are available.

Donna Martin, Owner, OHP

True West Campground, Stables & Mercantile, LLC

Posted August 1, 2017, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Timothy,

Thanks for the photo of the plaque, as it illuminates association of this bridge with the company that famous engineer Albert Fink worked for... Where specifically is this plaque located on the bridge? One of the abutments?

Posted July 31, 2017, by Timothy Jones (DT1712 [at] Yahoo [dot] com)

It has been rumored that this bridge was raised to accommodate the rising waters of the Great falls lake. However, the bridge has never been raised in elevation. The Benchmark at Rock Island is 880 feet. The support piers were encased in concrete to protect the masonry brick work that the piers were originally constructed of. See photo.

Posted July 31, 2017, by Timothy Jones (DT1712 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

The bridge is a Warren deck style bridge approx. 450 feet long. It was built shortly after the Civil War, about 1870. It is suspect that it was built by the Memphis & Charleston Railroad, which is the same company that built the bridge at Rock Island, Tenn. in 1871-72, across the Caney Fork River. The Nashville, Chattanooga, & St. Louis bought the McMinnville & Manchester from the M&C in 1877 and completed the line from McMinnville to Sparta by 1884.

Posted July 28, 2017, by Timothy Jones (DT1712 [at] Yahoo [dot] com)

Rock Island, Tennessee is located in Warren Co. not in White County. The bridge was built between 1871 and 1872. It spans approximately 660 ft.in length.

Posted July 21, 2017, by Cheryl (Broylesville [at] gmail [dot] com)

Do you know if there was a bridge in this location prior to the one above or if the Glaze's Ford mentioned below is the same? In 1813 the townspeople petitioned the court of Washington County to allow a saw mill "tto be built on Little Limestone creek JUST below the waggon ford on said creek (which is the road leading from Jonesborough to Glaze's ford)." I know this is the Nolichucky but just wondered about the use of the term "Glaze's ford" in 1813. Thank you! Cheryl

Posted July 21, 2017, by Rose Secrest (rosesecrest [at] hughes [dot] net)

I just now read about Calvin Sneed and his new book, and, by golly, here he is!

I visited this yesterday, one of four I managed to find in Meigs County. Such beautiful creeks!

I can't wait to read his bridge book!

Posted June 29, 2017, by Luke
Posted June 29, 2017, by Jim Holloway (jimholloway2 [at] icloud [dot] com)

Dug up a photo from October, 1976. I was a year off in my last message. My brother John shot this photo of Southern 4501 pulling a fall colors excursion to Asheville. The train is eastbound. The second set of rails has already been removed at this time, but apparently not long before.

Posted June 29, 2017, by Jim Holloway (jimholloway2 [at] icloud [dot] com)

The photo caption stating that this bridge was built for double track but a second track was never built is incorrect. This line was double track from 1910 until probably the late 70s, when the second track was removed. There are photos of the new double track bridge online in a Railway and Locomotive Engineering journal from April, 1910. I personally stood at the east end of this double track bridge in 1975.

Posted June 29, 2017, by Jim Holloway (jimholloway2 [at] icloud [dot] com)

The photo caption stating that this bridge was built for double track but a second track was never built is incorrect. This line was double track from 1910 until probably the late 70s, when the second track was removed. There are photos of the new double track bridge online in a Railway and Locomotive Engineering journal from April, 1910. I personally stood at the east end of this double track bridge in 1975.

Posted June 7, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

Rose new photos always appreciated!

Posted May 24, 2017, by Walter Aertker (waertker [at] aertker [dot] com)

Ellis Bridge and other bridges. How does one find out how to procure and use? I am in the market for an old bridge in middle Tn and it does not need to be wider than 12'.

Thank you

Posted April 25, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

Looks like Waverly was full of T Beams, only one I could find looked pretty original. Know there is a little debate about how historic these are but FAST disappearing.

Posted April 18, 2017, by Calvin Sneed (us43137415 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Alex, the video gave me chills of the train crossing on the bridge, and the train horn is so nostalgic. Thanks for capturing and posting this part of Americana!

Unknown Bridge (Tennessee)
Posted April 17, 2017, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

There are no maps showing anything there other than an earlier alignment of the road that preceded the current US highway.

Unknown Bridge (Tennessee)
Posted April 17, 2017, by Jared M.

It could have possibly been an old alignment of the nearby railroad.

Posted April 4, 2017, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiec [at] gmail [dot] com)

There seems to repair work happening at the south support pier for the swing bridge. There is some sort of buoy in the river. A reader of my blog says the support pier has been removed. Anyone have information about the project?

Posted April 2, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Well, depending on who you ask, this is either a sub-divided Warren truss, or a Baltimore truss. There has been a comment or fifty about this distinction on the forum over the years. Thanks for uploading the photo.

Posted April 2, 2017, by D. W. Adams (weetbixmarmite [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Here's a picture containing this bridge taken from the deck of the General Jackson showboat. I hope this helps identify the truss type.

Posted March 25, 2017, by Albert Pope (popealbert [at] bellsouth [dot] net)

This bridge used to lead to a parking lot for Alcoa workers at the South Plant. Alcoa has changed the parking situation for it's workers and torn down the approach to this bridge. The bridge actually crosses 2 railroads: NS and the Alcoa Terminal RR (ATRR). Several trains a day pass under it. There was a time when Alcoa had landscaping and lights on the bridge, it was an attractive setting.

Posted March 22, 2017, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Thank you as always Mr. Baslee!

Posted March 22, 2017, by Calvin Sneed

This elegant bridge is no longer with us. Blown into the water on Monday, March 20, 2017. RIP.

Posted March 19, 2017, by Linda Smith (smithsrus [at] gmail [dot] com)

Aerial photos of Hannah Ward Bridge taken March 2017

Posted March 13, 2017, by Dan (1992sentrase [at] gmail [dot] com)

About a mile, give or take, down the CSX mainline is another wooden bridge on South Springview Road. You can see it from the Binfield Road railroad overpass. I do know of a wooden bridge built in the 1940's on East Harper Avenue in Maryville, Tennessee. It is over the Norfolk Southern right-of-way.

Posted February 28, 2017, by Don Morrison

It's categorized as both preserved and lost. Time to clean up the categories.

Posted February 28, 2017, by Timothy (timdaugherty1980 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I finally found this old gem!!! Any idea when it was built? I walked down the old road and saw it before my eyes! Was amazing!!

Posted February 10, 2017, by George Hollingsworth (geohollingsworth [at] msn [dot] com)

Glad you found it. In addition to the bridges built after the Smokies became a national park there a lot of smaller bridges deep inside the park. Most of the campgrounds in the park were originally lumber mill sites that were serviced by narrow-gage rail lines going back into the mountains. After the park was formed the rails were removed and hiking paths formed. Several of the old truss bridges remain and were converted for pedestrian use. Here are two N35.607323, W-083.332968 and N35.610552, W-083.254940. These are the coordinates of the Google Earth photos of the bridges. Enjoy.

Posted February 9, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

Got it.

Posted January 31, 2017, by Gerald Gabriel (drivewaydreams [at] gmail [dot] com)

I was at the Mount Olive bridge today and snapped a neat picture. Just wanted to share.

Posted January 7, 2017, by Mary Noel

We have done some research on the bridge - it's still in place (2017) but showing deterioration of the concrete deck.

The Bridge's name was changed by the County early in the 1900's to Smith Bridge (a Glaze daughter who lived near the bridge married a Smith). Originally bridge had a wood deck that was replaced by concrete in the 1960's. It was painted a bright silver when open - traces of paint still visible in protected corners. The bridge was decommissioned in the mid-1980's.

E.N. Matthews, one of the principal bridge engineers, ended up marrying a gal who lived in the brick foursquare adjacent to the bridge (our house) and lived the rest of his life here in Limestone, TN - building a farm about a mile up the road from the bridge.

Posted January 2, 2017, by Echo Anderson (Echo Anderson [at] Historic bridges [dot] org)

We'll be able to see the eclipse from this one!

Posted December 28, 2016, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

This bridge appears to have an NBI listing implying it is owned by the city (ie the public, taxpayers, etc). However site visit reveals numerous No Trespassing signs posted BEFORE the bridge. Maybe the road after the bridge is private, but it is not appropriate for anyone to post such signs if, as the NBI suggests, this bridge is owned, inspected, and maintained by a public agency using taxpayer dollars. The signs mislead visitors into believing that it is unlawful to visit this bridge, which is not true if its owned by a public agency.

Posted December 2, 2016, by Echo Anderson (Echo Anderson [at] Historic bridges [dot] org)

I live in town and I have seen this bridge many times. Once a barge hit it, causing one of the pillars to become encased in concrete and preserved. It is a beautiful bridge and is one of the lucky few that survived the flood of 2010. This is one tough bridge. Oh, and you're right, those approaches are insane! They are so freakin long it's weird but true!

Posted November 27, 2016, by Dennis G. Massey

Still standing today.

Frisco Bridge (Tennessee)
Posted November 17, 2016, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Rich,

Thanks for the background, so I gather the new approach will have a lesser grade... and also that the main spans are not to be replaced as part of this project?

Frisco Bridge (Tennessee)
Posted November 7, 2016, by Rich

BNSF did a major rebuild of the main spans of this bridge in the mid-2000s due to deterioration. The Arkansas approach to the channel crossing is the steepest grade on the main line between Memphis and Thayer, Mo. There were very prohibitive operating rules that governed speed and how much power the engineer could use along certain points of the bridge--in fact it was possible to stall out on the approach which required being pushed over. Because of the low speed limit, single track and being near Tennessee Yard, it became a major bottleneck for the railroad between Kansas City and Birmingham.

Posted November 7, 2016, by Glyn Robinson (contactbluebird [at] hotmail [dot] com)

why is the house built so close to approach? great pics!

Frisco Bridge (Tennessee)
Posted November 6, 2016, by Nathan Holth (Webmaster [at] HistoricBridges [dot] org)

This is one of the most significant historic bridges in the country due to age, design, size, and engineer. Some or all spans are currently being demolished and replaced... currently it's just the western approach spans. The fate of the main spans is unknown. Even loss of the approach spans is an atrocity against history given the bridge's significance. But of coursE big railroad corporations couldn't care less about history. This bridge belongs in a museum if it could fit, it deserves better than to be ruined by money hungry railroad corporations

Posted October 30, 2016, by Thad Osborne (tgo1330 [at] comcast [dot] net)

This bridge is on an old section of Washington Pike that was re-located due to construction of I-640 in the 1980's. It is just slightly west of its replacement.

Posted October 19, 2016, by Alan Walker (awalker1829 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Actually, there's a bit of misinformation here. The freestanding bridge piers are what remains of the East Tennessee and Georgia Railway bridge. The Western and Atlantic Railroad of the State of Georgia crossed the creek a little further upstream of the ET&G on a bridge that was at a lower elevation. That bridge had stone abutments, which are still in use with the current W&A Bridge.

The bridge in the foreground is the CSXT Tyner Spur that connects to Enterprise South.

The bridge that is currently used by Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum dates to 1912 and was modified in the 1950s when the main line was rerouted. One set of bridge spans was removed when the line was downgraded from a main line to an industrial lead.

Posted October 18, 2016, by Echo Anderson (Echo Anderson [at] Historic bridges [dot] org)

I take that back. No spray paint

Posted October 18, 2016, by Echo Anderson (Echo Anderson [at] Historic bridges [dot] org)

That lil' caboose is a cutie! Did you notice the spray paint?

Posted September 25, 2016, by Echo Anderson (Echo Anderson [at] Outlook [dot] com)

I also had a weird dream about it a couple nights ago. I live near the park and I was raised going there. one day I noticed the pillars and was fascinated, so I researched the bridge. For many months I searched the internet until there was nothing else to read. I wrote a report and took it to school. The teacher loved it and gave me a LYNDOR chocolate.

Posted September 25, 2016, by Echo Anderson (Echo Anderson [at] Outlook [dot] com)

My fascination with bridges began here

Posted September 25, 2016, by Echo Anderson (Echo Anderson [at] Outlook [dot] com)

Ive tied to do research on this bridge nothing popped up. there is a gate. I am currently writing a fiction story with this bridge, even though I do not live in Knoxville and have never seen it in person.It does have a wonderful street view though.

Posted September 11, 2016, by K (kaykat9676 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This bridge is no longer here. I visited the location on 9-10-16.

Posted September 9, 2016, by Leo York (K9luv [dot] ly [at] gmail [dot] com)

Not sure the built date 1940 is correct. I have a 1927 photo of a school bus crossing on this bridge.

Posted September 8, 2016, by Peyton Gupton (cardinalgupton [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Not abandoned, still active. NS serves the coal loadout in Newcomb several times a week which requires they go thru this tunnel. NS also makes occasional runs onto the CSX mainline, averaging about 1 every 2 weeks or so.

Harahan Bridge (Tennessee)
Posted August 31, 2016, by Alexander D. Mitchell IV (LNER4472 [at] verizon [dot] net)

Website changed to http://www.bigrivercrossing.com/

Opens to public Oct. 22nd, 2016.

Posted August 19, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Luke, The diagram you posted is the bridge in Mr. Hoobler's book, with photo's made about 1884. If that is not a Fink truss, then there are two possibilities. They decided against the Fink design, or there was another bridge in between the 1867 and the 1897 bridge.

The attached images are from - Nashville, from the Collection of Carl and Otto Giers, page 31. By James A. Hoobler. Arcadia Publishing, 1999.

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I found three articles in the Tennessean showing that the current bridge was under construction, in 1931. You are welcome to go to the blog and see the update and the articles. You may download them, of course. If you use them I hope you will give credit to my blog as well as the Tennessean. I have not yet found a date of completion, but I am looking through 1932 newspapers. I will update the blog again when I find the completion date.

Posted August 18, 2016, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Seems like the RR bridge erectors got into the riveting a decade or so quicker than the firms building ones on roadways. I've wondered if perhaps they had a rail car with a field riveting setup in it that they could pull right up to the work site.

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Thanks Luke for sharing this photo from my blog post. This image appeared in the Tennessean on July 4, 1909. It is a photo of the Woodland Street Bridge. In the background you can see the railroad bridge. Although the newspaper image is not very good you can see the tender's house on the railroad bridge. The caption on the image says, "Woodland-Street Bridge, L&N Railway Bridge Beyond." http://nashvillehistory.blogspot.com/2016/08/louisville-nash...

Posted August 18, 2016, by Luke

Fair point.

Posted August 18, 2016, by James Baughn (webmaster [at] bridgehunter [dot] com)

Luke,

Not all 1890s bridges were pin-connected. I've seen riveted examples, such as this bridge on the Katy Trail in Missouri built in 1896:

http://bridgehunter.com/mo/callaway/rivaux-katy/

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Thanks Luke for sharing this photo from my blog post. This image appeared in the Tennessean on July 4, 1909. It is a photo of the Woodland Street Bridge. In the background you can see the railroad bridge. Although the newspaper image is not very good you can see the tender's house on the railroad bridge. The caption on the image says, "Woodland-Street Bridge, L&N Railway Bridge Beyond." http://nashvillehistory.blogspot.com/2016/08/louisville-nash...

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiec [at] gmail [dot] com)

Thanks, y'all. I am going to keep searching to see if I can find anything on a later bridge. If I do I will get back to you.

Posted August 18, 2016, by Luke

Debie, that's what is referred to as a "shoe" or "pedestal".

It is used to connect bridges to their abutments/piers.

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I see there are bolts at the bottom and rivets at the top but what about the middle, is that a pin?

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Thanks, and what that photo I posted before, is this some kind of connection?

Posted August 18, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Hi Debie:

See photographs 3,9,10,14,16 for examples of pinned connections:

http://bridgehunter.com/ks/cloud/republican-uprr/ This bridge is located in a rural area, as opposed to an urban environment, but it is an example of an 1890s railroad bridge, as is its neighbor just downstream:

http://bridgehunter.com/ks/cloud/pegram/ This bridge has both pinned and riveted connections, as it was built during a time of transition.

This bridge has newer bolted and welded connections: http://bridgehunter.com/ks/brown/71025803360/ It was built in 1940, which was just about the end of the truss era.

Posted August 18, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I second Luke's comment. It can take years to learn all the details. All of us are still learning.

Posted August 18, 2016, by Luke

Debie, don't sweat not understanding all the engineering tidbits.

This is a riveted connection on the present bridge: https://bridgehunter.com/photos/18/50/185053-L.jpg

This is a pin connected bridge built in the 1890s by the same company that built the 1897 Cumberland bridge: https://bridgehunter.com/ar/yell/danville-rr/

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Sorry, I don't know enough about railroad bridge construction to carry on a conversation. The intent was to share some documented information. I hope some of you will enjoy the blog post. If you enjoy Nashville history you might find other posts on the blog to be of interest. There is an index near the top left under the little photo of the Shelby Street bridge. Like I said railroad bridges are not my thing, but I hope I gave someone something to think about.

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Help me out here. Is this an example of a pinned connection or a riveted connection? And how do I spot the differences?

Posted August 18, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Yes, the overall shape of the bridge in the newspaper photo is similar, but that bridge appears to be a Parker truss. This bridge is a Polygonal Warren truss.

Posted August 18, 2016, by Luke

It would be even more odd for an 1890s bridge to feature riveted connections, which didn't come into engineering prominence until the 1910s.

The current bridge has riveted connections, not pinned connections like an 1890s bridge would.

So that's proof enough that the bridge isn't from 1897.

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

If anyone can find documentation of a later bridge, please post it or send it to me. I will be happy to update the blog post. I do want to mention that from 1913, through 1920, I could find no mention of a new bridge being built at this site. I don't dispute one may have been built at a later date. But unless I have documentation, I will stick the 1897-98 date. Please take time to read the blog. Read about the reasons a new bridge was built. Some of you obviously believed that a wooden bridge from 1859, stood there until 1916. I didn't see how a wooden bridge have carried the increased weight. That didn't make sense to me and that is part of why I started researching the subject. I don't know much about reailroads, but I have been researching Nashville's history for more than 40 years and I do my best to be accurate. (Image is from the Tennessean Feb. 11, 1898.)

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This image appeared in the Tennessean on July 4, 1909. It is a photo of the Woodland Street Bridge. In the background you can see the railroad bridge. Although the newspaper image is not very good you can see the tender's house on the railroad bridge. The shape of the bridge looks to be same as the current bridge. It would be very odd for a newspaper to report in 1897-98 that a new had been built and completed if that had not happened. The caption on the image says, "Woodland-Street Bridge, L&N Railway Bridge Beyond." Are you aware that the Fort Pitt 1916 plaque is not on the railway bridge that is over the river?

Posted August 18, 2016, by Justin

If the bridge shown in that book is pre-1897, then your timeline is confirmed as incorrect.

According your timeline, the 1897 bridge was preceded by an 1860s Fink truss.

The bridge in those images is not a Fink truss, rather a Pratt truss.

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

My research was not confined to newspapers. Both of these clips for example are from The Railway Age, volume 24, 1897. The book is available online - https://books.google.com/books?id=v3RCAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA743&dq=%...

Posted August 18, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiec [at] gmail [dot] com)

The photos in the book in the book referenced by anonymous were taken in 1884-1885. The photos in this section of the book, of Gier photos, published by Jim Hoobler has this comment. "In 1884 Otto Giers began a personal photographic project. He set out to document his hometown, and he did so in several hundred views. All of the subsequent views were made by him in 1884-85". - https://books.google.com/books?id=cxVrG042w6wC&pg=PA31&dq=na...

Posted August 18, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

One has to be at bit careful when looking through news articles concerning early railroad bridges. The very earliest railroad bridges, primarily those from the 1860s-1880s, have frequently been replaced two or three times. It is not unusual to find that the original bridge may have been in place for a mere 10-15 years before heavier railroad traffic, or in some cases flood damage, required its replacement. Thus, an 1870s bridge might have been replaced in the 1890s and again in the 1920s. In some instances, the replacement projects might not have received as much media coverage as the initial construction project.

To complicate matters a bit, the newer trusses often reused pylons from old bridges. Likewise, some very old trusses may have had their pylons replaced. Thus, the dates on the trusses and the pylons may be mismatched. In the case of this bridge, the pylons look much older than the trusses to me.

The best way to determine the age of a bridge (aside from plaques of course) is to look at details of construction. Generally, lighter weight bridges are older than heavier ones. Pinned connections with eyebars are generally older than riveted connections with gusset plates. In turn riveted connections are usually older than bolted or welded connections. In addition, bridges with lots of lacing tend to be older that those with little or no lacing.

If I had to take a wild guess at a construction date for this one, I would say the current bridge was built sometime between 1910-1930. If the bridge was in fact built in 1897-1898, it would have been an extremely heavy bridge for its time. If so, it would have been a very early, and noteworthy, example of such a heavy bridge.

Posted August 17, 2016, by Anonymous

I believe that this book shows two photographs of the bridge the newspaper clipping is referring to.

https://books.google.com/books?id=cxVrG042w6wC&pg=PA31&dq=na...

Posted August 17, 2016, by Justin

This bridge is far too heavily constructed to have been built 1897.

Posted August 17, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

After doing further research, I can find no source that the bridge was built in 1916. The date seems to be based on the photo of a plaque posted by Calvin Sneed. But that plaque is on a different bridge, adjacent to this one. The plaque is on the CSX, 1st Ave. North Overpass. The bridge was built in 1897 and 1898, as documented in my blog post. The image is from the Tennessean, Feb. 11, 1898. The references in the article make it clear that this is the bridge across the Cumberland from East Nashville to downtown Nashville. The blog contains further documentation on the bridge. http://nashvillehistory.blogspot.com/2016/08/louisville-nash...

Posted August 17, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Mike Page, are there plaques on both sides of this bridge? The photo you made does say 1916, but I was there yesterday and saw a plaque that said 1918. I am going back to take another look.

Posted August 17, 2016, by Debie Oeser Cox (debiecox1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

The plaque on this bridge says - 1918 Built By Fort Pitt Bridge Works Pittsburg Pa. The photo is not great but if you click to enlarge you can see that it says 1918.