Mick, John is a contributor here, and the bridge already has an entry: https://bridgehunter.com/sd/minnehaha/bh36416/
I've found that a lot of railroad bridges from this era have this unique feature. I've oftentimes wondered the exact same thing.
For discussion: This bridge has pins on the counters but a solid riveted lower. Does this count as a pin connected or riveted? Since the major joints seem to be rigid, I opine riveted but whats the consensus?
Field visited this bridge this weekend. The two main truss spans have a Detroit bridge Company plaque from 1897 and covered up 1898 portal cutouts. It appears this span was relocated from Clinton, Iowa
Field visited this bridge this weekend. Bridge is indeed older than the 1889 construction of this line, and matches an 1879 structure at Carpentersville, IL:
Upon further research, these 127' trusses were likely originally constructed over the Baraboo River in Wisconsin and moved here in 1896
Pieces of this structure were reportedly built in 1885 at Winona, Minnesota as part of a long bridge. They were relocated here sometime around the turn of the 20th century. There are several other bridges like this on the line.
Good news for all...this bridge seeing a lot more action. Dakota Southern expanded the branch further and plans are in place to restore the track to Kadoka...possibly back to Rapid City but that may take many many years to accomplish.
Bridge replaced between 2006 and 2008
Replaced between 2004 and 2007
Replaced between 2010 and 2012
Bridge was replaced between 2009 and 2011.
Thoughts on the possibility that the below bridge donated a span to this crossing?
While this bridge is barely accessible due to the low maintenance road, tracks on the ground and the condition of the bridge indicates it is still in use
It prevents ice and debris from getting inside of the timber piers and causing damage.
OK railfans--what is the purpose of the cribbing around the pilings? Is the assumption that debris will only be a problem when the river is higher?
I think I can offer a fairly confident idea for this bridge. Bridges built with a narrow one-lane width such as that seen on this bridge would be very rare after 1920. Its pretty clear it was built to be widened at a later date into a two lane bridge. As to why it was built as a one-lane bridge, I also have a strong theory. Note the construction date (during World War II) and also note this is a steel stringer bridge (recall there was a steel shortage during the war). Bridges built during this period often have unusual histories. I therefore believe that the bridge was built using limited steel supplies as a one-lane bridge and planned (after the steel shortage ended) to have additional steel beams added to create a standard two-length bridge.
Like the great Pyramids of Egypt, or Stonehenge, or various Aztec and Mayan Ruins of Mexico and South America this will remain a mystery for great minds to discuss and debate until Christ comes back. I will just default and say that it was the aliens who built the bridge for a purpose only they know. Perhaps there is an X-Files episode that covers it or it has been discussed at length on the Coast to Coast Radio Show.
Who built this bridge? And why are the piers so much wider than the deck? Was it meant to be dual purpose?
Is that in Milbank? I looked around the vicinity and on Google and couldn't find a Thresher Bee Park in that area. I updated the status but wanted to mark the proper location. Thanks!
This bridge is not lost but was relocated to the threshing bee park grounds and was reset to cover a small ravine on the grounds. I live right next to where the bridge was located.
I visited this location in October of 2015. We were able to drive up to within 200 feet of the bridge on a public road from the south. When I was a kid I remember crossing this bridge several times, riding with my mom. There was a sign on the North side that said "Cross At Your Own Risk". Not sure when it washed out.
I was unable to find any information on this bridge. So if anybody knows anything or knows of a good place to get some research that would be awesome.
This 1934 bridge is now gone. It was replaced by
a five-span pre-stressed girder style in late
summer 2014. Ribbon cutting ceremony was held
Sept. 5th, 2014
Confusing article... Was the 4 year old at the bridge drinking and shooting guns?
This bridge is closed to traffic.
According to 1992 NBI, the previous bridge here was a 1917 Concrete through arch (ie a historic rainbow arch bridge) so I would assume this modern steel arch (a non-traditional bridge type for such a small stream) was some form of mitigation for demolition of the historic rainbow arch.
Timber deck fire is what destroyed an iron truss leading to Belle Isle in Michigan in the early 20th Century. In the case of this bridge, they are lucky to remain standing. In one of the newspaper photos however, its clear that a number of the floorbeams are now sagging severely, so certainly those were compromised. A bottom chord segment appears also to be sagging. Hopefully they at least leave them standing as long-functional monuments. Looks like they one of the few parts of the complex to not be totally destroyed. http://rapidcityjournal.com/photos/full-throttle-saloon-fire...
The Full Throttle Saloon is in ashes. Looks like the trusses are still standing. Hope they weren't damaged and will be preserved again.
Thank you for checking up on it. The bridge really is a wonderful structure and in good shape. I hope it can see use again in the future.
I would say this is more mothballed than abandoned. Called EE and asked for the plans with it.
It is really beautiful in the spring as a pedestrian bridge.
from the looks of it, this bridge seems to be made into a trail bridge
Since we are all in a covered bridge craze.....I added this one: According to the Edgemont Historical Society, this bridge, although built in 2011, is an authentic covered bridge. It is Amish built.
Comparing portals (pic 3) with this:
I'm going to speculate this is another Lassig.
Yeah Sioux Falls!
At first I thought a pin-connected Warren truss in this county was the Thacher truss referred to in HAER documention. However, I finally found mention of this actual Thacher truss in Hamlin County. However, I am not 100% sure where it was located. Its probably demolished. Because of its name, I assume it was near Castlewood, and it was reported to cross Big Sioux River. The map points to my "Best Guess" for the bridge... I can see remains of caissons in the imagry.
I'm sure pictures (of the whole process) would be appreciated.
this bridge is now back together and now for sale. would make a nice house over a small stream of water.
Say bye to this bridge.....
It might have been an idea to relocate the truss bridge from this bridge
To this location. It would have been a better idea than a MOB
The truss span is still on Quarry Road, on a hill where the road curves. Future still unknown..
Bridge was NOT relocated from 474th Street. It is an original RI bridge.
What I have heard back from the contractor of a local hotel
"The hotel patio design has been incorporated into the River Greenway improvements. The railroad bridge ends just prior to the hotel property line. A public sidewalk wraps around the hotel patio and connects to the bike path on the east side of the property."
Picture of the proposed development below. It sure looks like the bridge was saved...
I'm happy to hear that they are not going to chop the width on the other bridge like they did on this one...leave them at their original size and that will not only allow for passing room for opposing pedestrian traffic, but also let folks stand at the trusses and enjoy the view!
Thanks for sorting this all out!
This is the one that was moved here in 2010 Don:
Not sure what happened to the Firesteel Ck Bridge but it is definitely missing.
OK, so Nathan had already covered the Pease Creek Bridge being the one that will move.
I wish I could edit my own post to remove the redundant information.
Maybe we'll have that feature in the near future. Oh, well.
The bridge at 43°46'32.37"N 98°18'21.99"W, which fits the position coordinates of Firesteel Creek bridge on 249th street in Davison County and was present in 2007, but missing on 30 December 2010, is a likely candidate for being the one that exists now as The Island Development bridge.
Satellite imagery isn't great for South Dakota.
Just a guess, but Pease Creek bridge
Is probably the bridge being moved this summer 2013.
That's my $0.02
This bridge is to be moved and preserved:
The article mentions that this tiny little bridge must be designed to handle 400 people on its deck at one time. This undoubtedly refers to the ridiculous AASHTO guidelines for pedestrian bridges. If this bridge was moved to Times Square in New York City you wouldn't see 400 people on its deck.
Here is where the bridge is going according to the article:
The path parallels railroad tracks that stretch from 23rd Avenue (Cemetery Road) through an undeveloped area to the west end of Lake Mitchell, where it connects with a paved path and the bridge will be installed by late summer and will span an unnamed creek that drains into Lake Mitchell.
I discovered this bridge briefly mentioned here: http://www.mitchellrepublic.com/event/article/id/75843/group... and I am not sure exactly where it came from. This bridge is undoubtedly already listed on BridgeHunter, but I am not sure which one it is because I have no photos of either this bridge now, or the other bridges in this county. If someone figures out which bridge this is we can likely merge two pages. In the meantime, this page represents the current location for this bridge, visible as a pony truss in satellite imagery.
Aerial views show a culvert now.
once again I have these bridges for sale next to US highway 85 in Bowman ND. Will be putting then back together this coming spring.If interested in them call 701 523 5380 Thanks steve
Still there as of late August 2012. (google earth proves this)
Still planned to be removed though
OK. so all NBI entries near Bowman, ND seem to have coordinates that put them offshore of Iceland. If I was from Bowman, ND, I'd be kind of insulted by that. 8^p
I decided to take a look at the bridge for sale in Bowman, ND, but was unable to find one in the NBI that is actually in the city of Bowman. I did find one listed as 3 miles west of Bowman, so I looked at that. The coordinates given in the NBI actually put that bridge offshore Reykjavik, Iceland, (per Google Maps) so I'm starting to think that maybe this whole bridge selling thing might be a scam.
Bowman County, North Dakota
Maybe Bjork will buy it.
i now have the bridge for sale in bowman nd.
Corten steel is a concept that's been around a while too; the vast majority of MOB's are made with it, and power companies are using it to construct new transmission poles in non- to low-moisture areas. Julie's right--it's low-maintenance and looks nice, but it runs and can get messy, and it turns concrete foundations orange. I wonder if this stuff soaking into the ground cam have an adverse effect on groundwater...I'm certainly not against using it; just a question to ponder. I don't think it's any worse than the paint or galvanizing used in other steel preservation methods...
the corten makes rusty stripes before toi long. just was educated on that steel. its cool but not clean.....
Very cool pedestrian bridge. And was wise to construct from Corten 'weathering' steel. No painting ever required !
+1 on the documenting the parking lot bridge. It might not be the prettiest of structures, but a parking garage built like a bridge certainly is notable, regardless of what anon-boy thinks.
I'm almost sure the parking ramp is gone. But if it is still there, document it! It certainly is noteworthy!
It was not shown as a railroad in 1962, so. It hasn't been used in a long time.
A bit far for me to do as a day trip but some photos seem called for.
I wonder if we should document the parking structure that crosses the river since it is going to be removed.
It was probably an old spur.
I don't see a legitimate reason to tear it down. It's not as low as some other bridges, and if you are worried about height, just raise it!
If it is still standing, maybe someone should try to save it. I doubt the city would listen, but it is worth a shot.
I'm not sure if it is too late for this bridge, but maybe someone or a group of people could work together with the city to come up with a more reasonable, economic and ideal solution.
Jack the plate girder bridge up to increase room for flood waters... demolish and replace with a historic truss bridge... do anything but what was done here.
That's a really dumb plan.
Note how next to the future pedestrian bridge, there are 3 empty piers. This is where the RI bridge currently is
I added the excellent pre-relocation photos that Lou posted in the forum into the actual gallery for easier viewing.
I think the Rock Island bridge is on a trail and preserved. The BNSF line is inactive or abandoned and this bridge might be the one you're thinking of:
I heard somewhere it's because there was lead in the bridge, and it restricted waterflow. Same with the rock island bridge downstream. The RI bridge will be replaced soon, so see it while you can!
This bridge is lost and replaced by a prefab pedestrian bridge. The new bridge is 200 ft long, I guess.
Was still there in 2008: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/11956221. As such, this discredits the post saying it was gone in 2004.
Odds are good that it is gone. Phase 1 of the Downtown River Greenway Project completed June 1 2012.
The diagram on the web page says "New prefabricated 250' x 18' pedestrian bridge", "New bridge abutment" and "Remove existing abutments" among many other things. I think I got those measurements correct. They're hard to read.
Check it out for yourself:
Can anyone confirm that this is lost?
Can anyone confirm that this is lost? Reported lost in 2007 comment but still in street view.
Sioux Falls East, SD 1962 topo shows this as the CRI&P RR.
This is clearly a double intersection through truss railroad span. It likley came from a former bridge in Downtown...
Just discovered this bridge on Google Earth. Afterward, I found a random pic of it on the internet (I posted the link. If this bridge still exists that will be awesome. The pic on the link is dated to 2000, so I have to wonder. I will be in the area this July so I plan on going to take photos of it. Anyone with any info on this bridge please feel free to comment.
Sorry Jason, but this bridge is gone....
Thanks for sharing the bridge though!!!
This bridge is actually ex CNW.
And this bridge can be accessed by walking down the tracks...
These bridges are going to get some more attention since this bar will be on Tru TV. An episode apparently has someone attempting to jump off the bridge. http://www.trutv.com/shows/full_throttle_saloon/index.html
Maybe its just me, but what I do not understand if there is a pedestrian bridge here then what is the use of that modern pedestrian truss bridge (seen in the first photo) right next to this one?
This bridge has been demolished and replaced with
a concrete structure.
This bridge has been demolished and replaced with
a concrete structure.
I love this bridge. I wish it saw more traffic.
I love this bridge, although I wish it saw more traffic
This bridge was rebuilt in Summer of 2010
Sadly this bridge was destroyed last winter
The old bridge looks like it may have been a relocated RR bridge. The portal gusset reminds me of this one on a RR bridge, also in SD:
Could it possible be by The American Bridge Company?
This bridge still exists....it was moved from its original location 2 miles to the Newell (SD) municipal golf course and crosses a waterway there in March 2002. Had a wooden deck with only a 4-ton limit at time of removal. One of only 4 like this in the state of SD.
The official name of this bridge is the Four Corners Bridge; built at the corner of 4 counties and cost was paid by the 4 counties.
This bridge is officially called the Marsh Rainbow Arch Bridge and states so on its bridge plate.
This bridge is no longer in this location. It was sold and moved in Aug. 2008 30 miles to Sturgis, SD and is now used as a tourist attraction and called the Full Throtle Saloon bridge. You can see photos of it at its present and former locations listed under Full Throtle.
Bismark Bridge in its original location...
Bismark Bridge in its original location...
Bismark Bridge photos in origial location
Photos of the Bismark Bridge in its location...now a attraction at Full Throtle.
The two sections of bridge when together were called the Bismark Bridge. It was built in 1912 by the Canton Bridge Co. The two sections were a total of 274'. It was originally located 6 miles east of a tiny town called Vale, SD It was sold and moved to its present location (30 miles) in Aug.2008. Was on the National Historic Register.
The bridge plate is still in place. The deck is wooden planks. It was closed for safety reason and a new concrete one built beside it in summer of 2007.
We'd love to see these Lou!