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Augusta Vicinity Whitewater River Bridge (Butler County, Kansas)

Recent Updates 

South Llano River Bridge (Kimble County, Texas)
Through truss bridge over South Llano River on Loop 481 in Junction
May 20, 2013: New photos
Long Creek Suspension Bridge (Replica) (Osage County, Kansas)
Wire suspension bridge over Marais des Cygnes River on Pedestrian pathway
May 17, 2013: Added
ATSF Fivemile Creek Arch Bridge (Leavenworth County, Kansas)
Brick arch bridge over Fivemile Creek on Atchison Topeka and Santa Fe Railroad grade (abandoned) in Buffalo Bill Park. in Leavenworth
May 13, 2013: Updated by Robert Elder: Updated categories and overview
Turkey Creek Bridge (Wyandotte County, Kansas)
Concrete rigid frame bridge over Turkey Creek on Mill Street
May 1, 2013: Updated by Robert Elder: Updated Design
Turkey Creek Bridge (Wyandotte County, Kansas)
Concrete rigid frame bridge over Turkey Creek on Mill Street
May 1, 2013: Added
Branch of Lyon Creek Bridge (Geary County, Kansas)
Abandoned stone arch bridge over Branch of Lyon Creek
April 30, 2013: New photos
Old Katy Bridge (Geary County, Kansas)
Through truss bridge over Lyon Creek on Otter Creek Road, just southeast of Wreford
April 29, 2013: New photos
Clarks Creek Bridge (Geary County, Kansas)
Through truss bridge over Clarks Creek, 5.5 mi. south and 3.0 mi. east of Wreford
April 29, 2013: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited history.
Short Road Bridge (Montgomery County, Missouri)
Through truss bridge over Loutre River on Short Road
March 21, 2013: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited Status and updated Year Lost per the forum comments.
Colorado River Bridge (Burnet County, Texas)
Deck truss bridge over Colorado River on US 281 in Marble Falls
March 18, 2013: Updated by Robert Elder: Bridge has been demolished.
Shawnee Ford Bridge (Franklin County, Missouri)
Through truss bridge over Bourbeuse River on Shawnee Ford Road beyond the end of Route AN
March 12, 2013: Updated by Robert Elder: Bridge is doomed
Augusta Vicinity Whitewater River Bridge (Butler County, Kansas)
Abandoned pratt through truss bridge over Whitewater River on SW 90th St (Abandoned)
February 5, 2013: New photo
Augusta Vicinity Whitewater River Bridge (Butler County, Kansas)
Abandoned pratt through truss bridge over Whitewater River on SW 90th St (Abandoned)
January 29, 2013: Updated by Robert Elder: Added categories "Wrought iron", "Wooden deck", "Pin-connected"
Strong River Bridge (Simpson County, Mississippi)
Abandoned bridge over Strong River on Bridgeport Rd.
January 24, 2013: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited Design and Design Description.
Mission Creek Bridge (Shawnee County, Kansas)
Warren pony truss bridge over Mission Creek on Docking Road
January 23, 2013: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited Design, Design Description, and Overview.
Mission Creek Bridge (Shawnee County, Kansas)
Warren pony truss bridge over Mission Creek on Docking Road
January 23, 2013: New Street View added
Pedestrian Overpass Bridge (Seward County, Kansas)
Steel through arch bridge over Us54 Hwy/E. Pancake Blvd on pedestrian walkway linking a school and park.
January 16, 2013: Added
Clements Stone Arch Bridge (Chase County, Kansas)
Two-span stone arch bridge over Cottonwood River
December 26, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited Year Built and History. 1886 is the correct date, not 1887.
Big Bull Creek Bridge (Miami County, Kansas)
Abandoned through truss bridge over Big Bull Creek on Harmony Road/North Iron Street
December 13, 2012: Added
Cedar Vale Bridge (Chautauqua County, Kansas)
Two-span Marsh arch bridge over Caney River on Old US 166, east of Cedar Vale
December 7, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited Name and Overview. Cedar Vale is two words.
Amelia Earhart Bridge (Atchison County, Kansas)
Through truss bridge over the Missouri River on US 59 at Atchison
December 5, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited Status, Status Description, and Future Prospects. The bridge is closed and awaiting demolition.
Marais des Cygnes River Bridge (Franklin County, Kansas)
Warren through truss bridge over Marais des Cygnes River on Abandoned Railroad Grade - formerly Missouri Pacific Railroad.
November 27, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Bridge is now open to pedestrians.
Branch Canville Creek Bridge (Neosho County, Kansas)
Pony truss bridge over a branch of Canville Creek on 3-18.4 Local, 3.4 mi. east and 1.0 mi. north of Odense
November 9, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: This bridge has been closed to vehicles.
Branch Spring River Bridge (Cherokee County, Kansas)
Closed-spandrel arch bridge over Branch of Spring River
October 31, 2012: Added
Baxter Springs Heritage Center Bridge (Cherokee County, Kansas)
Pratt pony truss bridge over Branch of Spring River on Footpath
October 30, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Added Builder
Baxter Springs Heritage Center Bridge (Cherokee County, Kansas)
Pratt pony truss bridge over Branch of Spring River on Footpath
October 30, 2012: New photos
Vane Road Tunnel (Dickinson County, Kansas)
Tunnel for Vane Road under Union Pacific Railroad
October 30, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Entered Year Built.
Vane Road Tunnel (Dickinson County, Kansas)
Tunnel for Vane Road under Union Pacific Railroad
October 30, 2012: New photos
Marais des Cygnes River Railroad Bridge (east) (Miami County, Kansas)
Bridge over Marais des Cygnes River on Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railway
September 19, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: New aerial imagery indicates that this is a through truss.
UP Marais des Cygnes River Bridge (West) (Miami County, Kansas)
Bridge over Marais des Cygnes River on Union Pacific Railroad
September 19, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: New aerial imagery indicates that this was a plate girder.
Mulberry Creek Bridge (Ford County, Kansas)
Through truss bridge over Mulberry Creek, 2.6 mi. south and 3.0 mi. west of Ford
August 22, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Added Builder
Smoky Hill River K-147 Bridge (Trego County, Kansas)
Steel through arch over Smoky Hill River on K-147 at Cedar Bluff Lake Spillway
August 16, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Deleted one of my photographs (it was a duplicate that somehow got uploaded twice).
Marais des Cygnes Bridge (Miami County, Kansas)
Lost through truss bridge over Marais des Cygnes on FAS 1023, 8.3 mi. south and 4.4 mi. east of Paola
August 16, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Fixed a couple of typos.
351st Road Bridge (Miami County, Kansas)
Abandoned Pratt through truss bridge over Marais Des Cygnes River on 351st Road
August 14, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Corrected a couple typos.
Marais des Cygnes River Bridge (Lyon County, Kansas)
Pony truss bridge over Marais des Cygnes River, 3.0 mi. north of Reading
August 14, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Bridge Crosses the Marais des Cygnes River, not Hill Creek which is a tributary of the Marais des Cygnes.
Elm Creek Bridge (Lyon County, Kansas)
Abandoned through truss bridge over Elm Creek on County Road 330
August 14, 2012: Added
CGW Stone Arch (Ogle County, Illinois)
Abandoned stone arch bridge over Farm on Railroad
August 7, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Added to Railroad category (again).
Council Grove Lake Rainbow Arch bridge (Morris County, Kansas)
Bridge over Council Grove Lake
August 6, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Added alternate name. Bridge would have crossed Munkers Creek.
AVI Little Arkansas River Bridge (Harvey County, Kansas)
Bridge over Little Arkansas River
July 23, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited multiple categories. Bridge is known as the A.V.I. Bridge by locals.
Ratner Road Bridge (Shawnee County, Kansas)
Lost three-span concrete arch bridge over Wakarusa River on Ratner Road, 6.5 mi. east and 0.5 mi. north of Wakarusa
July 9, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited multiple categories to reflect that this bridge is lost.
Lyon Creek Bridge (Dickinson County, Kansas)
Abandoned pratt through truss bridge over Lyon Creek on 1600 Avenue
July 6, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Deleted the description.
Carry Creek Bridge (Dickinson County, Kansas)
Pony truss bridge over a branch of Carry Creek, 1.0 mi. east and 4.4 mi. north of Woodbine
July 6, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited multiple categories to reflect that this bridge crosses Carry Creek. Adjusted the location.
Quivira Scout Camp Bridge (Chautauqua County, Kansas)
Pony truss bridge over North Caney Creek, 7.0 mi. north and 1.0 mi. west of Sedan
July 5, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Added categories "Relocated", "Riveted"
Lyon Creek Bridge (Dickinson County, Kansas)
Abandoned pratt through truss bridge over Lyon Creek on 1600 Avenue
July 5, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Added categories "A-frame portal", "Pin-connected"
Lyon Creek Bridge (Dickinson County, Kansas)
Abandoned pratt through truss bridge over Lyon Creek on 1600 Avenue
July 5, 2012: Added
Quivira Scout Camp Bridge (Chautauqua County, Kansas)
Pony truss bridge over North Caney Creek, 7.0 mi. north and 1.0 mi. west of Sedan
July 5, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited Year Built and History.
Jellison Bridge (Ellis County, Kansas)
Warren through truss bridge over Old Channel of Big Creek
June 27, 2012: Added
Elrod Bridge (Cowley County, Kansas)
Stone arch bridge over Timber Creek on 122nd Road northeast of Winfield and west of New Salem
June 27, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited Name - Elrod Bridge is the name on the plaque.
Elrod Bridge (Cowley County, Kansas)
Stone arch bridge over Timber Creek on 122nd Road northeast of Winfield and west of New Salem
June 27, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Edited Alternate name and Builder
Medicine Creek Bridge (Osborne County, Kansas)
Bedstead Warren pony truss bridge over Medicine Creek, 3.0 mi. south and 7.0 mi. west of Bloomington
May 25, 2012: Updated by Robert Elder: Fixed location.

Recent Comments 

Posted May 20, 2013

This bridge is relatively easy to document. There is a parking area nearby, and a cantilevered walkway allows documentation of details.

Posted May 17, 2013

Yes, this is a modern bridge, but it is a replica of a historic bridge that once spanned Long Creek in the Melvern Vicinity. A photograph can be viewed here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bkern1989/7155338182/in/photostream/

James: If you feel that this bridge does not belong, than no worries. I added it because I don't mind good replicas on here.

RE: Iowa River Gazebo Bridge
Posted May 14, 2013

A similar debate occurred on this page: http://bridgehunter.com/il/kane/bh50820/

Anthony had a good point about removing these bridges from the Bowstring category.

Posted May 14, 2013

Thanks for the link. Those are some interesting photographs.

Posted May 14, 2013

While not directly related to bridges, tomorrow (May 15th) marks the Sesquicentennial of the Battle of Rebel Creek. This small, and largely forgotten, Civil War battle was fought roughly three miles north of this bridge. The site is not accessible to the public.

http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/montgome/chron3.htm

This bridge was built only 8 years later.

Posted May 14, 2013

Dave:

These MOBs (Mail Order Bridges) are of great controversy on this website. Some individuals may defend them as legitimate bowstring trusses. Other contributors such as myself do not consider them to be of interest. While we all have our own opinions of what makes a bridge historic or noteworthy, I will just provide my personal opinions of why I do not like seeing MOBs on this website.

1. These MOBs have no connection with historic bowstring bridges. A historic bowstring bridge would have counters, which are not present on this bridge. Additionally, bowstring bridges were assembled using built up members including Keystone Columns, Phoenix Columns, and the similar member patented by King. A historic bowstring bridge often incorporated cruciform members which would have been joined with pin-connections.

A MOB such as this bridge has none of those historic features. These bridges are constructed with welded connections.

2. MOBs are mass produced. Therefore they have become a common technology, much like concrete slabs or other uninteresting designs. Granted, all truss bridges are MOBs at some level, but they still required assembly beyond simply welding pieces together.

3. MOBs are often replacing historic bridges or used where a historic bridge could have been relocated. As an example, there are numerous hiking trails being developed in the United States right now. One would think that the historic truss bridges that are being demolished could be moved to some of these trails. Instead, the historic bridges are sent to China to be melted down, and these MOBs are showing up on the trails instead.

So, that is my reasoning for not including MOBs on this website. I am sure that others will disagree with me, but I thank you for reading my $0.02.

Posted May 13, 2013

We now have two very similar brick arch bridges within a few miles of each other on the ATSF Railroad.

There were railroads in eastern Kansas prior to the Civil War. Naturally, a large number of bridges at that time would have been built of wood.

Brick arches were used during the Civil War era, so I would be interested to find out whether or not these two bridges could date from that period.

Another research project to add to my list...

Posted May 8, 2013

Jayhawk:

Thanks for the tip. That is some interesting imagery. It does look like the bridge is partially buried in mud.

I guess that is one way to preserve a bridge. Too bad we don't have Anonymous the Pompeiian. He could provide good information about buried structures (although this is in mud, not a pyroclastic flow).

Posted May 6, 2013

This is a prime example of a MOB being used where a historic bridge could have been installed.

Posted May 1, 2013

Well, that is two of us in agreement, so I have edited the page accordingly.

Posted May 1, 2013

My fellow bridgehunters: I have just added this bridge, which the NBI considers to be a slab. To me, it looks more like a rigid frame concrete bridge.

What do you folks think. All we have is Streetview so far.

Bridge of Southeast Kansas
Posted May 1, 2013
Bridge of Southeast Kansas
Posted May 1, 2013

I think that I may have found your bridge. The one below was located in Elk County, Kansas.

http://khri.kansasgis.org/index.cfm?in=049-0000-00042

Posted April 30, 2013

Nathan, that is a good point. We have seen plenty of stone abutments give way recently. I am just glad to see that this one got preserved.

I have been bridgehunting in Geary County since the mid 1990s. The only trusses that have been demolished since that time (that I know of) were on state or federal highways. To the best of my knowledge, Geary County has not demolished a truss bridge in roughly 20 years. That is pretty remarkable if you ask me!

Posted April 29, 2013

I visited this bridge in April of 2013. It is another historic bridge preservation success story in Geary County.