It has begun...
Construction of new Pond Eddy bridge begins
Published Jul 20, 2016 at 4:39 pm (Updated Jul 20, 2016)
BY ANYA TIKKA
POND EDDY — Construction of the new Pond Eddy Bridge off Pennsylvania’s Shohola side’s Rosas Switch Road and Flagstone Roads, and New York State Route 97 has started. Construction equipment has been moved to the site daily for days, and construction crews are starting the work. Route 97 on New York side, the only access road to Shohola residents via the existing bridge, is blocked on alternate sides at times for 2-lane traffic on a short stretch near the construction.
The bridge plans have seen several transformations, from local grassroots and environmental opposition in early stages, to rumors about a large-scale interstate bridge, to the current design of a one-lane, two-truss design, similar to the existing, old bridge.
SAI Consulting Engineers of Lemoyne, PA gave an extensive exhibition and information meeting earlier in the year in Shohola Town Hall, with a model of the new bridge, timeline, and other info to residents. The existing, historic bridge will be taken down, and has not found any buyers although it was listed for sale, and the new bridge will be built about 65 feet from it.
The construction will be in stages, starting from New York side when a rock causeway will be built half way across the river, and then the same will be repeated from Pennsylvania side. The existing bridge will stay open for residents during this whole time.
Once the two sides of the new bridge under construction meet in the middle of the Delaware River, the rest of bridge construction will be finished, and finally, the old bridge taken down. The last estimate was the bridge wouldn’t be open until end of year 2018.
The two-stage construction is necessary to keep the water flowing for environmental, and fishing purposes, as well as recreational use for visitors to the area, in heavy use during the summer months.
Freshwater mussels were found in the early stages of the project, and they had to be moved, although they were not an endangered species. Historic D & H canal remains run next to the river, and an archeologist will be at hand during the construction.
The cost estimate has been about $13.3 million, to be shared between Pennsylvania and New York.
The new bridge will closely resemble the old one, with taupe color and material made to look like the historic bluestone once mined in the area.
Art,that sucks if this bridge does get scrapped,not repurposed.Maybe a miracle will happen.
One step closer to scrapping:
My mistake.I meant wiley's bridge,not wiley's rd.
Apology accepted Julie.By the way, what is happening with the wiley's rd. bridge.I live in berks county and haven't heard or read nothing on this bridge.
Okay, that makes sense. Either way, this is good news.
I apologize. Too many bridges on my mind. Long shoals in Kansas had a TAP application for move and restoration submitted in November with our help. I was referring to another lovely, Wiley's Bridge on Bowers Road. The Pennsylvania thing. Sorry.
I was mistaken.Just looked up fetters mill bridge and saw it is in bucks county below willow grove.I had it confused with a bridge in Montgomery county.
Art,thanks for responding about this bridge.I personally don't look at penndot as for the description of them you presented.As for the bridges in the state of pa. it would be great to see them all repurposed instead of scrapped.From what you have said the future does not look bleak for this bridge.Only time will tell.Thanks Julie for revealing that you were the one who posted the comment anonymous.I do know about the fetters rd. bridge from living in the area.I'll have to check on that bridge when i'm down there in the area being that I am originally from Quakertown.
Hi Julie. Interesting news about Long Shoals. You will have to keep us posted.
Wasn't trying to be anonymois...just forgot the info. I am referring to Long Shoals. May stay in place as it will be less expensive to repair for the community than remove.
Thank you for your response. I think that one thing we must keep in mind is that preservation must not be an us vs them game.
PENNDOT is not a monolithic organization. There are people that care deeply and there are others that view old bridges as an impediment to progress. Pond Eddy was aggressively marketed with a very generous offer to assist the acquirer that included disassembly and transportation. Unfortunately, for various reasons, no one stepped forward.
Some within PENNDOT are working hard to preserve bridges. Unfortunately, the rules, as presently written, are stacked against them. An acquirer must work within the timing of the rules to save a bridge. This timing rarely works. Indiana disassembles and stores the bridges they offer, significantly increasing their preservation success rate.
If you are referring to Fetter's Mill Road, I agree that it has the potential of being a real win for preservation.
Regards to both,
Thanks anonymous for the insight on how penndot operates towards relocating bridges instead of scrapping them.This bridge I would agree is one big bridge.might be a problem with finding a place to put it.As for what you said about a span near me that might come up in the future I cover basically southeastern pa. especially counties surrounding and including philadelphia county.Thanks again aynonymous.
With all due respect to Pontists, PennDot is saving bridges. One of this size is expensive to relocate. The geographical nature of Pennsylvania means lots of bridges. They are working hard to market these bridges noting schedule dates, available funds for disassembly and transportation. Never know, now that they have a schedule of construction, serious inquiries could be heard. We even have a fun span that might be saved because of cost benefits, right near you George. Stay tuned.
Art and Nathan,it seems from both of you that penndot doesn't really care who comes to the rescue of this bridge or what happens to it possibly being scrapped.I favor it being saved as I said before but as was said the clock is ticking.I do know if it will be scrapped any construction company that has a reasonable bid will get it.I've seen it done here in southeastern pa.
They certainly would, but I suspect they may be less than enthused. I hope I'm wrong. I also hope the point isn't moot.
I would think that if someone came forward with a serious proposal, as long as the contract hadn't been let, that PennDOT would entertain a reuse.
Time has technically expired to do so. The bridge was offered, with disassembly and transport included, no one came forward. So unless someone has enough pull to reopen the process, the bridge will be scrapped.
Art,thanks for the information about this bridge.I did forget that this bridge hopefully can be relocated to a trail or park to still be used instead of being scrapped.Still time for people to get financing if possible to buy the bridge including me.only time will tell.
It is still destined for the scrap pile but scrapping will not take place until the new bridge is functional. Which is still a couple years from now.
Thanks art for the article on this bridge being repaired.Unfortunately I could not read the whole article due to the threat of viruses which was relayed to me via this computer I am using.At least this bridge is not ending up in the scrap pile.
Update on repairs:
I have to agree with you about what you said about this incident concerning this bridge.Do you know if and when the results on the damage might be released or printed?
In my opinion, the opposite is the case. The added speed increased the dynamic loading on the bridge creating significantly more stress. Additionally, the truck went airborne when transferring from the approach to the bridge. The landing created stresses that magnified the weight!
Generally, these old bridges like loads as close to static as possible (Nice and slow).
Art,this incident is a prime example of where the speed of the truck saved the bridge from further damage.I think if he would have been going slower the bridge and possibly the truck along with the truck driver would have ended up in the Delaware river.Wouldn't you agree?
I agree, the driver made a judgment call to minimize harm to others. What I find interesting is that the bridge withstood a fully loaded tri-axle, traveling at 50 mph, literally 'landing' on it after going airborne! That 'landing' and the truck's speed are a multipliers to the stress caused by the weight of the truck!
Art,i did read the article again.I guess when it comes down to human lives you have to make the best choice possible.Thank god no one got hurt.only damage to the bridge which can be repaired.
Re-read the articles.
Always takes an idiot in a dumptruck to close a bridge for repairs.The driver said his brakes failed?More like trying to take a shortcut i would bet.Hopefully the bridge isnt too damaged.
So, this old rickety bridge which can't hold anything survived an airborne attack from a 50 mph, 35 ton, fully load tri-axle that lost its brakes! Apparently some of the decking (hopefully not much else) was damaged where the truck landed. Maybe they should reconsider the load limit...
great news on replacement of this bridge as long as someone or buyer is found to reuse this bridge.
thanks art for the information on this bridge.hopefully it does not get scrapped but saved.and it does seem like there is some time before a decision is made on this bridge as to its fate.like i said before if and when i can get the property and financing in place i will buy it and see what happens then.as of now i am in what is called a holding pattern.if and when you do hear anything art please let me know.
From everything I've read, Pond Eddy will be removed once the new bridge is open. If a new owner cannot be found, it will be scrapped.
that is great news about the bridge being replaced but hopefully not scrapped.keep me informed if you get any more information because i do go up to the mountains and i would like to see this bridge in its natural setting before anything does happen to it.again kudos to n.y. and pa. to work on this together.
A joint project between NYSDOT & PennDot will replace the Pond Eddy Bridge. Letting of March 2015 expected. It calls for the construction of a truss bridge of similar configuration to that of the current Pond Eddy Bridge 55 feet from the existing bridge. There is no indication whether the existing bridge will be removed but it will remain open while the new bridge and approach roadway is being constructed.
thanks art for the information about the pond eddy bridge.hopefully the bridge is still there and available for purchase.i am not saying i can get it but if i do have the resources to get it i will try my best.that is all i can say for now.if i do not aquire this bridge hopefully who ever does saves it,not scrap it.would you not you agree?
It is a bid/proposal process. You put together a plan and demonstrate that you are able to fulfill the requirements, then you are allowed to bid (assuming no governmental agency is interested).
The purchase price is irrelevant/insignificant, it is the cost of the commitment that you make that's huge.
I wish you the best of luck, I hope you can save it!
are you serious,art?i am looking at starting up a business in pa. and if i can get the property and financing that i am looking for i would gladly buy it for possible rehabilitation,not scrapping like alot of people think.as you can see the bridge is not a small one.it would have to be disassembled,then delivered to wherever the site is to store it.please let me know the asking price if you can.keep in touch.i will let you know what i can do when i can.
If someone buys it, it will be saved; PENNDOT will even deliver!
does anybody know what the future of this bridge is going to be?if and when you find out please print it.thanks.
A picture from a different angle:
Here is a really nice write-up on wikipedia on the bridge's history and situation:
Want to buy a bridge? Free shipping!
Here's a fun editorial:
The fracking thing makes sense until you put it in context with all of the other PA bridges that are coming out.
Interesting write-up on (presumed) recent pier repairs:
Calling out PennDOT for being the bunch of wasteful HACKS that they are!
Hey, a smart politician!:
Silly question, why not ferry over some firefighting equipment and set up a firehouse on the other side? It would alleviate the need for higher loads.
Sign the petition to save the bridge at http://www.change.org/petitions/save-the-pond-eddy-bridge
It may not be enough to save this bridge from destruction, which most people considered a foregone conclusion, but opposition continues to mount. Locals are beginning to question the wisdom of spending millions on another bridge-to-nowhere, so a couple dozen homes that aren't even in the same state can be accessed. Time will tell.