"A contract will be awarded to cover the replacing of timber structures with steel spans across the Calapooia river, on the Oregon Electric, at Albany, Ore., at an estimated cost of $90,000. The filling of a timber bridge and placing a reinforced ..."
Says a G&W/PNWR PR guy sais it's late 1800s, but a commentor says there's a 1908 cutout on the upper part of the bridge.
I know nothing about this structure, I believe when I first added this bridge it was listed with an unknown build date. Then Charles posted something about the 1908 build date which was incorporated into the listing.
I would agree that the truss details are more consistent with something pre-1900. My guess is that the truss was moved to this location in 1908 from somewhere else in the country.
Most rail trusses in the northwest prior to 1900 were timber trusses built in the 1880's and 90's. My guess is the timber decayed away in 20 to 30 years and recycled trusses were brought in to replace the timber. There are plenty of examples of this practice around Oregon.
Yes, that is correct, the piers now support high voltage powerlines.
I agree that the portals and the pin connections indicate an older bridge, however I havenít seen a subdivided Warren thatís pin connected before this. I would think if it was an 1880s bridge, it probably wouldíve been built as a whipple. Perhaps this one was built in the 1890s and moved here? Relocation was quite common on railroads, especially former main line spans that had life left in them.
Am I seeing correctly that they repurposed the bridge piers for the powerlines?
Does anyone else think that this bridge's pin-connected trusses and their subdivided, modified Warren truss are a little elaborate for a 1908 bridge? I'm wondering if this is a bridge relocated here in 1908. Cannot find any info online. I don't recall ever seeing a pin-connected Warren truss of any variety on a railroad that wasn't pre-1900. Most are 1880s.
End "Plates" can be site specific perforated, IE name of town or org. in bridge. Good Marketing....
If Bach is pricing their replica spans competitively with brands like E.T. Techtonics and the modern Continental Bridge Co. who are cornering that market, they might have a chance.
Recognizing that some situations like remote locations might require lightweight bridges that could be transported by helicopter, etc, a unique alternative would be to have a company such as Bach Steel provide a custom-designed ALL-NEW replica riveted truss bridge, which would look similar to historic lightweight riveted truss bridges, such as this: https://historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=m...
Good thing it's a utilitarian span in the woods, much like the crushed bridge it replaced then.
Whatever it is, it certainly doesn't have the character defining features of a Conde McCullough masterpiece...
I have a picture of this bridge. Will send it to someone to post but I don't have a scanner
Is this one of those fiberglass made to order bridges? Oregon State Parks has a few of these on their trail system, that I have had the pleasure of inspecting.
I have a picture of this bridge. Will send it to someone to post but I don't have a scanner
*Update* The bridge was untouched by the major fire that swept through the area in September 2017. The Eagle Creek Suspension Bridge and the Fern Creek Bridge were not so lucky, they were destroyed.
Mike thanks for updated photos, looks like nice rehab!
This structure was replaced in 1990 by a made to order steel girder structure for the Banks-Vernonia Trail. The only remaining portion of the original bridge is the timber pile trestle bents located on the slopes below the abutments.
The bridge pictured is the steel replacement structure.
More news on the bridge replacement project
I cleaned the west abutment. Still needs a broom but the matting is gone. Here is the shoe. The other end has the rollers for the expansion but the bees need to slumber before clean up. Maintenance. Almost there for funding the railing.
Well Lawmakers are back talking about replacement it would be bad to see this bridge replaced by a UCEB.
Planked. Railing next .... under fundraising for that.
This bridge's on-deck beauty has been RUINED by the addition of a hideous cyclone fence that even blocks the beautiful concrete benches that people could once sit on. The fence is NOT just on top of the railing, it extends in front of the railing down to the sidewalk. This cheap budget-style cyclone fence makes this bridge look like it belongs in an derelict industrial area of Detroit not in a nice city like Portland. If they wanted a suicide barrier or something they should have chosen something that doesn't look like garbage.
More news on replacement the bridge will be persevered.
It wasn't fogged in last week, but still impressive none the less!
Once in a blue moon, the Astoria, OR side of this bridge is fogged in and you are certain you are on a bridge to nowhere when coming from Washington. It's spectacular and a bit scary.
Just to the west of this bridge, the Ewana Box Company had a logging railroad which crossed the river. There are still a few rotted pilings at the site.
If you have an account, you can go in anytime and edit the bridge. If you're signed in, there should be a yellow button on the individual bridge's page that says "edit bridge". You can go in there and change the bridge type.
I meant to put timber string but I accidentally put steel stringer and didn't check the page before I published it.
Both bridges were build in the same and by reading your comment and comparing the image to google street view imagery, I have found out that this is the actual location
of the two bridges not under Phillips Reservoir like I thought originally thought. Thank you for correcting the location.
This bridge will be dismantled next week hopefully it will be relocated and preserved instead being thrown in the scrap bin.
I notice that the descriptions listed this as a "Steel Stringer" bridge. It was actually a wooden trestle. It replaced the original red bridge when the SVRwy laid heavier rails in order to run larger locomotives, such as their Mikados and the former Uintah mallets.
Correction: I wasn't paying enough attention. Red Bridge 2 is what I had referred to as the Heavy Duty trestle. Sorry about that, chief!
Actually, the location shown is in error. Boulder Gorge, and the site of the Red Bridge 1, Red Bridge 2 and the heavy duty trestle that replaced the 2nd red bridge was several miles east of Philips Lake, and is not under water. Highway 7 still passes through the site. When I first visited the bridge site in 1977, It was easy to compare the rocks alongside the highway to the railroad photos and see that it was the same site. When they turned the county road into Highway 7 they widened the road to add shoulders and widen the lanes a little, and in doing so the rocks were cut back, so it is not quite as recognizable as it used to be. I could only find one of the concrete blocks that once supported the third bridge in the river. Attached is a Google satellite view with the actual location of Bolder Gorge and the bridge site marked.
Nice find, Leslie.
Seems the PNW had a lot of wooden trusses that lasted far longer than their Midwestern/Eastern contemporaries.
I know you have plenty of photos in the gallery, however I just wanted to share a couple I shot recently. This bridge has been long time favorite of mine. Hope you enjoy the photos.
1908: Hawley Pulp & Paper Mill built at the site.
Operated thru 2011 under various names, last of which was Blue Heron.
Does anyone have a link to history of the mill complex? There are a lot of unanswered questions about this place.
And it is not just this bridge I am speaking for every neglected historic bridges no matter what design though some can not be saved I am glad to see people try to rehabilitate bridges in derelict condition.
It is so sad to see bridges like this so many years of neglect and forgotten ever since the new highway was put in the 1960s.
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Thank You For the Link.
Thank you for the comment I am glad to hare that your are not the only one that gives advice.
I appreciate the stuff you've been finding and adding, and I guarantee I'm not the only user who does.
Thank you Luke for all the tips you have given me I appreciate it.
Another bit of info, Leslie: Bridgehunter automatically adds the state to the city name, so you don't need to add ", OR" to the city, the site will automatically add ", Oregon" for you after you submit the data.
No problem, you're new to the site so you don't know the ins/outs/quirks yet.
Alright thank you for the advice Luke I appreciate your comment about keeping up the good work i did that because the bridges were built on the same piers but one replaced another so they are two separate bridges.
Wow his bridges are amazing I am now looking forward to Spain!
Leslie thanks for adding video. Also fond of Santiago bridges.Bridgehunter may be expanding internationally so look forward to SPAIN!
I do agree with you this is in my opinion the most beautiful swing span in the nation Conde McCullough was an amazing engineer you will never find another one like him.
Leslie, each iteration of a bridge should be its own entry.
You could convert one of the duplicates you added to be for the second iteration of the Madison Street Bridge.
Keep up the good work.
Leslie, Swing span is becoming rare, but is a mundane artifact in the shadow of Conde B. McCullough approach spans. This is an amazing bridge!
This is the remaining operating swing span in Oregon their used to be more, but most of them have ben replaced by UCEBs
though some were in serious condition, their were broken promises in historic "Oregon Sate Highway Bridges" ODOT planned to keep the Coquille river bridge for a pedestrian bridge but they tore it down that is why this bridge is so important.
https://books.google.com/books?id=2VOUppxdWn0C&pg=PA7&dq=War... shows an aerial image
Does anyone have photos of this bridge I am very interested in bridges especially in my home state of Oregon their are sadly so many lost movable bridges in my state.
This bridge was dismantled by Hamilton Construction, but rebuild by Wildish Standard Paving Company.
Ready for planks and railing.
Something to know for future reference perhaps.
Turns out, after a year, almost two, that there are no permits required to plank and rail this bridge because it wont ever need to carry a fire truck. Haha.... spoent a lot ofmoney ti reach that result. Totally cool. Merry Christmas.
Glad to see someone finally got some photos of this old bridge.
I always wanted to take a boat ride under it, but have never found the time.
Once again, nice job.
Circa (from Latin, meaning 'around, about'), usually abbreviated c., ca or ca. (also circ. or cca.), means "approximately" in several European languages including English, usually in reference to a date.
Re the bridge: Was it made in Calif.? If not, what does Ca. mean?
What was you source of the year of the bridge? (1915)
Keep up the great job!!
Guard shack according to: https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/3qqziw/ever_wonde...
What was that building used for. I was curious when we drove by it. It's all boarded up now but it had to be built for something. Maybe a Toll booth??
I have an original 1909 CPRR photograph that has "C.P. Reconst'n R.C. West End of Tunnel No 13 May 14, 1909"
Looks as if they are just starting to set the stone blocks for the portal. Would anyone be interested in the photo. I got this in a stack of old photos at an auction. I am after Southern California RR photos and this doesnt fit.
The Oneonta Tunnel caught fire this week during the Eagle Creek Fire east of Portland.
ODOT inspectors were going to try to check on the bridges on both I-84 and the historic highway today to see if the fire has caused any further damage to these prized structures.
The Columbia River Gorge and the Historic Columbia River Highway is going to be changed for a generation thanks to some careless teenagers.
I was recently looking at a comparison of the NB bridge (1917) and the SB bridge (1958) before the NB had been reconfigured to match the SB bridge... and I noticed that 3 whole sections of the original NB bridge are missing!!
The new "humpback" section is new in 1958, but I count only 7 original sections after the tower-spans, where originally that count was 10. What happened to the other 3 segments? Scrapped? Repurposed elsewhere? Thanks!
here's the 1959 aerial for reference!
nice Penn Bridge plaque photo on this one.
The Siuslaw River Bridge is being rehabilitated, concrete repairs with a cathodic protection system. Even with the containment it is a magnificent structure. I got to spend last night hanging under the bascule span and woke up to this view!
It is known as other names. I'm just curious to know if there has been a log or data on vehicle accidents in or entering or exiting this. I travel through there often and its very narrow. I have been lucky to get through it 50+ times of maybe 2 without incident. I recently witnessed a fatality. I'm a careful driver but I have my concern. ~Rich
Truly, I agree Tony. The cost of a new bridge at this length is very affordable in DNREC eyes. It needs some work at splice plates and pin connections, new pins and big cranes.
Well, I still say they're Fools for letting it go!
...But Happy to see it go somewhere it'll be appreciated!
Nice save Juls, Nels and the gang!!
Relocated to sto rage in Delaware. Future dates are uncertain but it is a future and we are happy about that.
Everything takes a lot of time, but I think this concept can say what I can't about this project and why these bridges are important and how they can be the hub of a vibrant park. If you know me at all, you realize how important the amphitheater is, as is the children park area, the river bank. Access to our rivers.
This is the final version 1 before commentary by anyone official. We do not have ownership of the park land, that is EWEB and the boat access is under management by the county. We just have our rectangle of land.
This is mosier creek bridge in mosier, oregon
This is a beauty!
Stephen, I think it would be awesome if you could add those photos to this site!
One that no longer exists.
What is a Lost Warren deck?
I live near this great bridge. Lots to say and I do love McCulloughs bridges all over the state. I have a few copies of pictures when he visited the site and of opening day. Dont know if anyone interested in me emailing these photos.
Looks like they were able to heat straighten the end post back and lower chord into position.
Doomed ... and hit again.
I found this while going through some of my grandparents old trinkets. These tokens were used after the construction of the southbound bridge in 1958 and the toll was lifted in 1966.
Last update on Park Place Bridge appears to be from 2009.
Based on the location on the map and the comment regarding old 82nd, I believe this bridge following an odd intersection between 82nd and E Clackamas Blvd at at Columbia ave now is open to auto traffic and connects to the overpass crossing hwy 205 that becomes Redland Rd which turns into hwy 213 as you travel south southeast out of Oregon City towards Molalla and Silverton.
The improvements to allow Park Place bride to accommodate vehicles in addition to pedestrian traffic were made during, becoming part of, the Redland Road Overcrossing Project aka 'Jughandle' Project, and opened to auto traffic in 2013/14. Crossing from the N side of the river, Gladstone/SE Portland, via 82nd is virtually seamless, while crossing hwy 205 to reach Park Place Bridge from Oregon City, hwy 213, is a bit more difficult as it is not marked and all indications remain that you must merge onto 205 and use the the 205 bridge just North and then exit at Sunnyside/SunnyBrooke or 82nd in order to cross the Willamette river.
Pigeon droppings can also be a health hazard for bridge inspectors. In the Pacific Northwest (Washington State) I noticed that Ospreys like to nest at the top of bridges, notably main post "towers" of cantilever through trusses. This results in quite a mess of droppings...
The straight poop:
Not to interject seriousness into this levity...
But bird's mess can be acidic and bad for metal. This issue emphasizes the importance of cleaning, maintenance, and fresh paint on bridges with extreme bird activity.
If you go to the San Antonio Riverwalk you might notice betting on the underside of the bridges. Of course, this has to do with people under the bridges...
They usually pick the side with the superior view... Thus increasing the odds that a human will come in contact with it.
Please refrain from using coarse, offensive language on this august Web forum.
There are more appropriate words that could have been uses to convey the same meaning.
Dookie springs to mind as a good choise.
Maybe they like to take off into the wind, and jettison excess cargo before liftoff.
Perhaps the breeze is better on one side of the bridge, so more cargo is left there.
Most Avian excretion takes place on the wing....so which way does the wind blow?
I walked across the old bridge and noticed that one railing on one side only was completely coated inbird shit while the railing on the other side didn't have so much as a spec can anybody tell me why this is
Photo of the bridge taken in 1951.
Seems to me I remember as a child this bridge either getting widened or replaced.. late 1960s/70s
Does anyone have any updated information on how frequently the P&W runs trains over the Holcomb Creek Trestle now that the shortcut has been built in Wilksboro (just east of Banks)? I have only been able to get out there on Friday nights to see the train crossing the trestle, but if they are running during the day now, that would be great to see.
Do you know where I could find info/photos of the original building of the bridge?
Absolutely! I had missed this detail on this bridge last time I viewed it. Look at the sway bracing, this appears to have been reused and altered, as empty rivet holes and splices indicate. I assume the bridge was widened slightly and it also appears some verticals and endposts were strengthened.
The bridge should be properly described as an 1884 bridge rehabilitated/altered in 1901. As such, it is among the older truss bridges in Oregon.