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Posted April 21, 2017, by John Marvig

The issue that I see is the approach on one end was removed to make room for a park project a couple years back.

Posted April 21, 2017, by Anonymous

But if they would just fix up the historic bridge, they would be right on Target.

Posted April 21, 2017, by Matt Lohry

Since the new bridge will likely be a bland, mundane MOB, they should make the trail lead to as many Wal-marts as possible...

Posted April 20, 2017, by Anonymous

A post in the comments section suggests that the bridge is unsafe for a short length near one end.

So they're going to tear it down and build a wonderful new bridge that will last 100 years.

Maybe they will change the trail's name to "The Money Trail". It would be interesting to see where that trail goes.

Posted April 20, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

That is too bad. It is hard to convince people to see the value in truss bridges. Of course, people didn't see the value in historic buildings of any type during the urban renewal of the 1950s and 1960s. Now we have come to regret those mistakes.

Posted April 20, 2017, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Robert,

What I'm reading out of the article isn't deterioration. They just want to place a modern bridge there instead. Such shameless wastefulness.

Posted April 20, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

So, a bridge that once carried trains has been allowed to deteriorate to the point that it cannot carry pedestrians? A little paint and an occasional cleaning does wonders for preserving metal. This is a lot cheaper than replacing a bridge.

Not maintaining a bridge and then replacing it is like junking a three year old car because the tires are bald.

Posted April 20, 2017, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/public-input-sought-for...

Seems extremely wasteful and stupid to me...

Posted April 20, 2017, by J Lance (bugo [at] hotmail [dot] com)

This bridge is doomed.

Posted April 19, 2017, by Shawn Bridgman (shawnbridgman [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Old bridge dismantled and removed. New concrete bridge alongside

Posted April 18, 2017, by Matt Lohry

Nope, it's in Okmulgee County, about 1000' north of the McIntosh County line. If you have pics, please post; we'd like to see them, as there currently aren't any.

Posted April 17, 2017, by Mark Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Obviously the person who posted this bridge knows nothing about it first off I am pretty positive its in Mckintosh County, not Okmulgee, 2nd its far from being derilict, in fact its in pristine shape , I have plenty of photos to back that up

Posted March 30, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Yes, these bridges take some work. They don't maintain themselves. Hats off to J.P. for talking with the landowner. Preserving bridges takes partnerships. We have to build good relations with landowners, especially in states where these bridges get conveyed to private landowners.

Posted March 30, 2017, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Stone abuts and wingwalls suggest a pre-1900 span. He will need to cut those trees out if he wants to keep it around for a while, as the roots are damaging the substructure.

Posted March 30, 2017, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

A gentlemen named Kevin Decker contacted me and He bought the land this bridge is on and provided me with the photos. He was able to verify that the bridge existed on his 70 plus acres because of this website.

Posted March 18, 2017, by walter murrow (walter [dot] murrow [at] hotmail [dot] com)

This bridge was replaced recently

Posted March 16, 2017, by Jay Bissell (jay_54714 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This bridge is closed now (March, 2017.)

Posted March 16, 2017, by Mark W Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

No longer exists, has been replaced by a new bridge

Posted March 16, 2017, by Mark W Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Does anyone know if this was the bridge in place when the Jefferson Highway went through the area.

Posted March 7, 2017, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I don't really have time to research which railroad this was, but if you look closely you will see what I believe to be a pratt deck truss.

Posted February 2, 2017, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Bridge still stands but deck is removed.

Posted January 31, 2017, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

I think a lot of times the local farmer asks if they can just leave the bridge (thinking they might use it elsewhere on the farm) then like many "projects" they never get around to it, or it turns out to be more work than its worth. We have a few such bridges in the Thumb of Michigan.

Posted January 31, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

That would be great. Those Canton plaques are awesome! They appear on a few of their pony trusses.

Posted January 31, 2017, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Based on google imagery, bridge may have been left on dry land just south of the bridge. Maybe it was left to the property owner to reuse.

Posted January 27, 2017, by Anonymous

This bridge was not demolished in 1931. Although ordered closed as a result of the "Red River War" due to conflicts with the free bridge constructed just upstream in 1931 the 1915 bridge remained in use by local residents who bypassed barriers for a shortened route between Denison TX and southeastern Bryan County OK.

In 1961 a gas pipeline carried below the bridge caught fire destroying the center span. The southern span survived but was salvaged soon after.

Posted January 22, 2017, by Mark Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Bridge no longer exist, replaced with new concrete bridge

Posted January 22, 2017, by Mark Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Bridge no longer exists

Which is a shame since it was a simple Warren Pratt truss without uprights, pretty rare for Oklahoma.

Posted January 19, 2017, by Mark Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

One of the sections that still remain. Is a Camelback Truss, the Far North truss.

The other one is a Parker.

Since there is only 3-4 Camelbacks left in the State , i thought this should be noted.

Posted January 19, 2017, by Mark Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

One of the sections that still remain. Is a Camelback Truss, the Far North truss.

The other one is a Parker.

Since there is only 3-4 Camelbacks left in the State , i thought this should be noted.

Posted January 19, 2017, by Mark Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This bridge has been replaced. No longer exists.

Posted January 19, 2017, by Mark Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This is NOT a camelback bridge. , i will upload new photos soon.

Posted January 11, 2017, by Mark Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

No longer exists, replaces by new bridge

Posted January 11, 2017, by Mark Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

No Longer Exists, replaced by new bridge

Posted January 11, 2017, by Mark Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

No longer exists, replaced by new bridge 2016

Posted January 11, 2017, by Mark Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Status: No Longer exist

Posted January 4, 2017, by Nick Schmiedeler

Very cool !!

Posted January 3, 2017, by Mark brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

No its not on dry land

Posted December 30, 2016, by Tony Anderson (scout2tony [at] gmail [dot] com)

As of November 2016, the steel stringers are gone. Perhaps to improve clearance, but more likely to prevent collapse. Only the concrete abutments remain.

Posted December 25, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Yep, looks like a potential bedstead - assuming that the vertical endposts extend through the deck. This one looks like it might have been built ca. 1900, which would make it a rather old bridge for Oklahoma.

Posted December 11, 2016, by Barry (bllauver [at] toad [dot] net)

I don't wonder! It looks as if vegetation has grown up on both sides. The locals appear to think it is not safe.

Posted December 11, 2016, by Jeff McNeiland (jeff_mcneiland [at] yahoo [dot] com)

A rare treat in Oklahoma

Posted December 11, 2016, by Jeff McNeiland (jeff_mcneiland [at] yahoo [dot] com)

A risky crossing.

Posted December 11, 2016, by Jeff McNeiland (jeff_mcneiland [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Strange road alignment.

Posted December 11, 2016, by Jeff McNeiland (jeff_mcneiland [at] yahoo [dot] com)

The old road.

Posted December 11, 2016, by Anonymous

Welcome Jeff and thanks for Sharing, ask web master for permission would be great to have your work on here!

Posted December 11, 2016, by Jeff McNeiland (jeff_mcneiland [at] yahoo [dot] com)

A lonely bridge in the middle of nowhere.

Posted December 11, 2016, by Jeff McNeiland (jeff_mcneiland [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This bridge scared us.

Posted December 11, 2016, by Jeff McNeiland (jeff_mcneiland [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This bridge has been abandoned.

Posted December 11, 2016, by Jeff McNeiland (jeff_mcneiland [at] yahoo [dot] com)

A unique bridge with The Canton Bridge Company sign intact.

Posted December 9, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Google imagery shows a construction site...

Posted December 9, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

According to Satellite imagery, this one appears to have been replaced very recently.

Posted December 9, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

If the pin is near the correct bridge, then this one appears to be lost - or it may have been bypassed.

Posted December 7, 2016, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

WOW! I would love to know what the massive cost was on this project! Realignment, massively overbuilt slab, and demo of the landmark structure. Taxpayers really got it put to them on this ridiculous project!!!

Posted December 7, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Well, that is a shame. While not perfect, the state used to be pretty good about leaving bypassed bridges standing. Maybe that has changed...too bad...

Posted December 7, 2016, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

If you start digging into the details, in fact Oklahoma's preservation is spotty at best. This is best revealed by reviewing the K-Parker truss bridges in the state... these unique bridges have been dropping significantly in population over the years. Also, while some of the long pony truss bridges in Tulsa County have been preserved, others remain at risk for demolition including the longest pony truss in the country on Historic Route 66 (although that fight is still ongoing, with several preservation options remaining on the table). And while in the past, Oklahoma has left historic bridges standing next to their realigned replacements, this practice may be ending as I had the misfortune of discovering during my trip earlier this year to (attempt) to photograph this beauty: http://bridgehunter.com/ok/ottawa/170000000000/

Posted December 7, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Okay, I have to be honest, the demolition of this one was a complete surprise. There is a modern highway that runs parallel to this road, so I figured that this one would be way down the priority list. Oklahoma has preserved quite a few bridges, but apparently this one was non select.

Posted December 7, 2016, by Matt Lohry

According to historical GE imagery, it looks like late 2010 was the date--there appears to be a temporary bypass in place in the Sept. 2010 imagery.

Posted December 7, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This bridge may be doomed...

https://www.wildlifedepartment.com/Public%20Notice%20LeFlore...

That is, assuming that this is the same bridge...

Posted December 7, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I think that I see a modern concrete bridge in Satellite Imagery...

Posted December 7, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This one may be doomed:

http://leflorecountyjournal.com/2013/07/new-bridge-planned-f...

The bridge is going to be replaced. I have not found out if the old one will be retained or demolished.

Posted December 7, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Looks like it was scheduled for replacement.

http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/env-programs/bridges/castoncr...

Posted December 7, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Satellite imagery appears to show a new bridge...I will let the locals confirm if this is the right location.

Posted December 7, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Satellite imagery shows a bright shiny UCEB at this location. Has anybody field checked this one lately?

Posted December 6, 2016, by Luke

That's the bridge the NBI data is for, so James should merge this entry with the duplicate entry: https://bridgehunter.com/ok/le-flore/bh37490/

Posted December 6, 2016, by J Lance (bugo [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I don't think this bridge exists or existed. Witte is old OK 112 and the original OK 112 bridge is still extant as a footbridge.

Posted December 6, 2016, by J Lance (bugo [at] hotmail [dot] com)

If you go to historicaerials.com and search for Poteau, OK and navigate to this crossing and click on the 1955 aerial, it appears to show a truss bridge with no deck.

Posted December 1, 2016, by Rhys Martin (rhysfunk [at] gmail [dot] com)

I drove to this bridge today and it is now closed to traffic.

Posted November 23, 2016, by Kelly McClanahan

Had a little "fun" with this one. I was looking around on the USGS site, at old Quad Maps. I saw this bridge on one of the maps. I looked it up, and it appears that the sight is haunted with "spook lights".

Posted November 13, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I drove across this bridge on Saturday, November 12th 2016. It is extant and open to traffic despite apparently being scheduled for replacement in 2012.

Posted November 3, 2016, by Nathan Holth (nels [at] bachsteel [dot] com)

There is no interpretive signage at this bridge presently. As a Consulting Party for Section 106 on this project, I have requested additional consideration of rehab for vehicular use, and a number of other consulting parties have expressed the same. Preservation for pedestrian use is being considered as well, but in light of Route 66 being a driving experience (and driving this long pony truss bridge offering a unique experience as well), we feel that if at all possible, vehicular use deserves priority, moreoso than with other bridge types.

Posted November 2, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Also, I second Jeff's comment. I saw no signage explaining the importance of this bridge, or pointing Route 66 buffs to it. Maybe I missed them.

Posted November 2, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Drove over this one today. Very impressive and worth a visit. See it while you can, just in case it does get replaced.

Posted October 20, 2016, by Dylan VanAntwerp (dylan_vanantwerp [at] live [dot] com)

This bridge is actually owned by Union Pacific on an embargoed section of track. The Arkansas-Oklahoma Railroad is slowly rehabilitating the track eastwards from Shawnee, with the idea of leasing it from UP and putting it back into service, connecting with their own tracks at McAlester. Someday, in the near future, it is possible AOK trains will cross over this bridge.

Posted October 20, 2016, by Dylan VanAntwerp (dylan_vanantwerp [at] live [dot] com)

Based off aerial imagery it seems to have been a huge timber trestle.

Posted October 20, 2016, by Dylan VanAntwerp (dylan_vanantwerp [at] live [dot] com)

This bridge was demolished sometime after 1995. I took a best guess on type based on aerial imagery. I don't know if this rail line was spun off before it's demise, or perhaps it even made it into the BNSF era before it was abandoned. Any Oklahoma rail buffs, feel free to add/correct any info.

Posted October 20, 2016, by Brad Smith (gaberdine [at] hotmail [dot] com)

http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/hqdiv/p-r-div/maps/state-maps... is a 1933 map. It shows US 70 running due north from downtown Idabel. It ran west of Lukfata Creek.

Modern US 70/259 runs significantly east of Lutfata Creek.

By 1944, the old route had dropped from the state maps and the current route was the only one.

http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/hqdiv/p-r-div/maps/state-maps...

Posted October 14, 2016, by Dylan VanAntwerp (dylan_vanantwerp [at] live [dot] com)

The street view and the satellite view present stark differences. The satellite view is from 2013, when Oklahoma was in the midst of an epic 8yr drought that had largely depleted the lake. However, in the spring of 2015, 17.1 inches of rain fell in just 60 days, completely replenishing the lake and refilling it to capacity.

Posted October 4, 2016, by Steve (stevendoris12 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This bridge was damaged and was deemed unsafe by Union Pacific and was completely replaced.

Posted September 29, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Nathan:

I have found the measuring tool to be surprisingly accurate as well. As long as a bridge is not obscured by trees, I can usually get a measurement that matches the NBI Data. (Excluding any situations in which the NBI is obviously off).

I often use the tool on mystery bridges that I have not had a chance to field visit.

Posted September 28, 2016, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Based on the Google maps measuring tool (which I have reliably found to be surprisingly accurate) I estimate the spans are not 175 feet, but instead are between 150-155 feet each, and the overall length around 1564 feet.

Posted July 26, 2016, by Becky Clark (Flmingo [at] sbcglobal [dot] net)

No it's not being torn down and the pin on the map is on the wrong side of the highway. To get to the bridge you need to go west of Hwy. 169 about two or three miles.

Posted June 13, 2016, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Field visited this bridge June 2016. Photos and GoPro Video to eventually/someday end up on HistoricBridges.org. Meanwhile I uploaded the uncut/raw GoPro video to YouTube because this is a very cool bridge that photos do not do justice for... I felt the video helps better convey the length of the bridge. This bridge is AT RISK FOR DEMOLITION! OKDOT even admits its the most historic bridge in the state. Video: https://youtu.be/SHMSSYramGA

Below is a photo I took showing the bridge is so long that the optical distortion caused by the hot Oklahoma sun actually makes the far end of the bridge nearly disappear.

Posted June 13, 2016, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Field visited this bridge June 2016. Photos to eventually/someday end up on HistoricBridges.org. Key finding: Obviously the 1936 construction date is incorrect, but it might indicate when it was altered and likely relocated here too. The bridge has been widened from original roadway width. Evidence: Riveted splices at center of sway bracing and portal bracing. Another interesting observation... this bridge has exceedingly rare "Oliver" brand on the rolled angles. I've only ever seen this on a few bridges in the USA and Canada combined and its always on angles.

Posted June 13, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I have driven over this bridge, but did not have a chance to photograph it. The January 2016 Streetview shows the construction of a new bridge immediately to the east. This one will probably disappear soon unless Oklahoma plans to preserve it.

Posted June 9, 2016, by Nathan Holth (nathan [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Field visited this bridge June 2016. Photos to eventually/someday end up on HistoricBridges.org. Key finding: I strongly believe this is a "FrankenBridge" pieced together from roof trusses. Evidence: overhead bracing is welded (and not part of roof trusses), empty holes running along top chord angle, and the angle legs face the same cardinal direction on the bridge (legs on a bridge would normally both face inward or outward.)

Posted June 9, 2016, by Nathan B Holth (nathan [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

A massive, two-lane slab of concrete now connects this poorly maintained narrow one lane gravel road. Despite being on new alignment, this beautiful truss was nevertheless demolished. Very disappointing.

Posted June 9, 2016, by Nathan Holth (nathan [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Attempted to field visit this bridge June 7 2016. A not unprecedented or unexpected incident, yet still highly irritating, I appear to have missed the bridge by not very much time. All I saw as I drove by are shown below, the remains of the endposts sticking up...

Posted June 9, 2016, by Nathan Holth (nathan [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Field visited this bridge June 2016. Photos to eventually/someday end up on HistoricBridges.org. Key finding: This is a "FrankenBridge" pieced together from some other bridge. Evidence: Welds at upper connection, empty rivet holes at base of some end posts, unusual bottom chord taking same form as the top chord, very heavy chords for bridge span length.

Posted May 2, 2016, by Nathan Holth (nathan [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

You can see the lost span in the river from this Google image.

Posted May 2, 2016, by Nathan Holth (nathan [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

This bridge was "Adopted for relocation in Muskogee County - August 2009" According to ODOT. Final location unknown. Documentation attached.

Posted May 2, 2016, by Nathan Holth (nathan [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Looks like the bridge was bypassed with a new bridge but the historic bridge abandoned and not demolished, per Google imagery.

Posted April 19, 2016, by dalton vandever (dvandever [at] ou [dot] edu)

This bridge no longer exists. A replacement bridge was built along side it. The original structure was removed when the bridge was completed (late 2014-2015).

Posted April 17, 2016, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Tim, I would suggest contacting the county highway department about the availability of this bridge. They should be able to guide you in the right direction.

Posted April 17, 2016, by Tim Hickerson (chrose02 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Would love to know more about obtaining this bridge for use on our farm.

Please call Tim or Cindy Hickerson 580-548-7808

Posted April 14, 2016, by Josh (joshwright83 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This bridge has been removed by the commissioner due to federal requirements

Posted April 6, 2016, by J Lance (bugo [at] hotmail [dot] com)

My research indicates that this bridge did indeed carry OK 51 (and OK 58) at one time. The attached map reinforces my theory. Note that US 270 once went through Canton. It was rerouted to go through Oakwood after this map was printed.

Posted March 31, 2016, by J Lance (bugo [at] hotmail [dot] com)

It appears that this bridge has been removed.

Posted March 17, 2016, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Thanks for saving it!

Best of luck to you!

Art S.

Posted March 17, 2016, by Derek Nixon (nixon5thair [at] aol [dot] com)

The east end 60 foot Parker Pony has been saved. The bridge has been trucked 2.5 miles west of old location and will be used by motor vehicles to cross a creek on private property.

The bridge will be easily visible from hwy 51, north side of hwy.

Posted March 15, 2016, by Steve Biggs (okla_charger [at] yahoo [dot] com)

The old bridge was still there as of mid October of 2015. I photographed it and plan to return in the late spring to photograph it again.

Interesting bridge! It needs to be preserved.

Steve