Bolts, on a bridge built in 1882?
Disaster at the second bridge--In February of 1922,a crew began dismantling the second railroad bridge. As the five workmen were loosening bolts, the entire western span gave way, crushing and killing two men and injuring two others. The job was abandoned until scrap prices rose in the pre-World War II period, when the job was finally finished.
This bridge was never associated with the Canajoharie & Catskill RR. The C&C went belly-up in 1842, only made it to Cooksburg, just over the Albany County line and a long way from Canajoharie.
There never was a Catskill Mountain and Cairo RR. The Cairo RR, which ran from Cairo Junction on the Catskill Mountain RR to Cairo was chartered as a separate corporation in 1884 until it was merged with the CM under a reorganization in 1916.
Catskill Mountain Railroad 1882-1885
Catskill Mountain Railway 1885-1916
Catskill Mountain Railroad 1916-1919
Source: "Rip Van Winkle Railroads" by William F Helmer, Howell-North Books, 1970
Are you guys talking about this bridge?
Found it! Picture 12 and 14!
Both show up on historicaerials in the 1970s as farm bridges.
No topo map shows them as being crossed by a proper road, with a few topos showing them both with dashed markings associated with "4WD road" in the USGS map key/legend.
That's it, was in area today didn't spot till home from Sat view. Road is a relative term in this area! Try and get there in better weather
I assume you are looking at Road-Canaseraga Creek Bridge. Yes indeed!! And even a little further looks like an abutment
Nathan looks like another one just up stream
The proper spelling is Genesee Street
Scheduled for Replacement 2018
Interesting to note that the South Portal is marked 1903, while the North Portal is marked 1902.
Although I suspect it's a Whipple pony bowstring and that it was replaced rather than just removed...
Figured I'd beat Luke to it :^)
It seems extremely creepy
Not sure if this is predecessor bridge at this crossing from 1907 view. Tiny Whipple?
Can anybody find out what railroad this bridge is used from?
Tried to enhance it two more ways. Added the two new ones plus one of the previously posted photos to the bridge file.
Been a while since I've posted--gotta retrain the operator.
For some reason your enhanced image isn't attached to this bridge. I think it does help. Can you enhance the other one as well?
I had checked that. I couldn't find a High Fall, NJ and High Falls, NY is elsewhere.
Visually many points correspond. Maybe High Fall NJ where card printed? Going to say 74.6 % probability ! Any one else?
Dom & Dana,
I found a second stereo view image that looks exactly like the first but looking upstream (note the railing, piers and dam). However, it is labeled High Fall, NJ. I think the label is incorrect. What to do you think?
Thought you might like this most recent update (09 Oct. 2018) projecting the new Neversink River Bridge in Port Jervis is now expected to be completed in about a year.
Here are a few trade journal articles with imagery:
Great picture Luke. Where can I find pictures of the construction of the Guymard Cutoff?
This was the site of the Yellow Brick Road scenes in the movie "The Wiz" (1978).
The PBS NOVA special 'Operation Bridge Rescue' was fun to see but, unfortunately, much of it focused on the creation of this replica. The wood joinery was nice, but they seemed to spend more time explaining how the historic Chinese wooden arch bridges functioned than explaining the function of a truss or showing how different truss designs work.
Even sadder, they didn't spend time showing the restoration of original truss bridges, either wood or iron. Nor did they really explain the story of the evolution American truss bridge, just stating they were designed locally and organically to regional designs. I'm not sure if the educational content of NOVA has gone down or if this is on par for NOVA but I'm disappointed because I know something about the topic.
That said, its fantastic that the community found the resources to recreate this bridge and that the builders did a beautiful job.
Yes, most certainly Groton.
Cady street is mislabeled as Clinton Street on G-Maps. Clinton Street runs NE-SW but the part extending toward the canal is the remains of Cady.
The 1908 map with bridge and mill is here:
This bridge spans the Oneida River not the Seneca River.
Interesting shadow on sat views, any one near for a site visit?
Might actually be a Dam?
Per forum AKA Underwood bridge
The bridge is known as Underwood Bridge. Is there some way for you to include the name here?
Thanks in Advance!
pipe line crossing in view on photo still extant on sat views
Comment is of course wrong. Bridge was there in 2011, but is gone now. Streetview has some really old and blurry views of the bridge, but the satellite view is much more current and shows it's been replaced by some boring concrete thing.
Nice find, Mike!
I'm sure that's the one George. Multi year project. had asked permission to photo new and old bridge but was told no. Honor that as a responsible bridge hunter.
Thanks,Dana and Kay.I saw a commercial about visiting New York and it showed this bridge with a N/S train going over it.I am pretty sure this is the bridge because the commercial mentioned the state park.I'm pretty sure this is the only bridge in the park,isn't it?
Mike if pin is correct must be "Old" Lake Avenue bridge in background!
George this is new NS trestle, American Bridge Company, Cant view without Trespassing yet. Park Roads still closed in this area.
Dana,where is the N/S trestle located?
Thanks for the assist Luke, Really awesome stonework every where n Park. Only put up the one culvert as example But many many on 20 mile drive through park. NS Trestle still closed for viewing though.
The CCC and WPA were two similar but different work relief programmes.
According to https://livingnewdeal.org/projects/letchworth-state-park-cas..., Letchworth was a CCC park, not a WPA park.
http://www.letchworthparkhistory.com/cccwork.html has more in-depth stuff about what was build by the CCC in the park.
Was all the stonework within Letchworth State Park constructed by the WPA or the CCC during the Great Depression? Or was the CCC part of the WPA?
Not the first example of an overpass being referred to by locals/railfans as a tunnel.
Not to have an opinion one way or the other, this is referred to on railfan sites as Mudville Tunnel on Erie Cutoff.
WPA Culvert worth stopping and visiting!
Yes that stone structure in street view is pretty neat.
My guess is that it allows the old canal to pass over Brandy Brook like a very short aquaduct.
A similar structure exists at 43.133835, -75.673702 where another small stream passes under the canal.
Those structures probably date to the construction of the canal. Looks like an interesting area to visit.
Nice Find Matt!
I wish I were closer to here--there is what appears to be a very old Pratt truss footbridge over the canal about a half-mile north of this location. Lat/Long coords:
Canal St. streetview shows a good view of the east end.
Thanks Don, Street view I added panned left Shows interesting Masonry Arch Culvert that could be canal era. Realize NBI pins to be off, some by continents but found it interesting pin was RIGHT on it. Does appear to be what could be the stringer in question on canal Street/and or rt46. Site visit will clarify. Ill add to list! So many bridges so little time
I'm nowhere near there, but older NBI entries for the same bridge say "Old route 46", which was apparently Main Street.
I'm thinking the bridge near the intersection of Canal Street and Main Street may be the one you are looking for.
added from NBI,any one near here to check out? Sat views don't agree with NBI description.
Mike looks like you click ed twice on add. Delete this one Ill add NBI data to other.
The bridge may be gone but on of the stone support walls on the Bronx side is still in place. The area around it is no longer in the water as it was land-filled for the supports for the Willis Avenue Bridge.
The location is Willis Avenue & E132nd St.
Thanks for the interest in this.
Though laying claim to the title would be great, the Port Jervis turntable is not the largest that's operational in the U.S. but rather in the east. This distinction is noted by the Port Jervis Tri-States Railway Preservation Society in its National Geographic tourism page. https://delawareriver.natgeotourism.com/content/erie-turntab...
The total length of the Port Jervis turntable is given here as 115 ft. However, the Union Pacific Roundhouse Turntable and Machine Shop in Cheyenne, WY, reports theirs is a 126-foot diameter continuous span. https://www.cheyenne.org/listing/union-pacific-roundhouse-tu...
Art Columbia may be good, any other opinions>
Dana, its definitely not just you, the county maps are unreliable for confirming if a bridge is already on this website... hopefully James Baughn can fix that problem.
I deleted the page I made, so just leave your page up. I only was trying to add the bridge cause I found the record-breaking span length to be of interest. Although I have no idea if that length REALLY was record-breaking.
There is some weird bug on Bridgehunter in which some bridges are NOT shown on the county clickable Google map. This may be why many contributors post duplicate bridges by mistake. This bridge for example did not show up on the county map browser.
Also I have no idea where the measurements shown on this page came from. According to a local news article, this bridge was claimed to be the longest clear-span double-track through plate girder span in the USA when completed. Design: 127 foot span through plate girder, consisting of 130 foot long by 12 foot tall girders. Validity of these length claims is uncertain.
Collapse of approach span railing took place in 2018.
May not have RR correct, this bridge partially collapsed yesterday
with attached 1914 postcard view
wonder if this is Walton bridge before move? Owls head lane near there
Saratoga & North Creek, ex D&H
Delaware and Hudson RR?
No, because NKP's NY terminus was Buffalo.
Do you think it could have been the New York, Chicago and St. Louis
1943 topo from historicaerials only shows Erie on the line, so it's probably remnants of an Erie advert ca 1941, when their absorption of the Nypano Railroad gave them a route into Chicago.
Really cool when stuff like that still exists.
Yes. Do not know. Try New York State DOT
Other RR run across this line? I can make out "New York Chicago..."
Is there still construction on the bridge ? Is there still a line closed? If so, when will the work be completed. Thank you
Bridge is own and operated By Nassau County DPW. 2nd rehab was performed approximately 2008, leaf decking and exspansion joint replacement
I remember this bridge while growing up in Washingtonville lived in the park.
left in 1978 believe about time line closed. So sad seeing it in closed. Did you happen to see the steel plate on it with bridge information was wondering year it was built? Thank you so much for taking photos.
That's what puts the "hunt" in Bridgehunter. 8^)
If any one is driving looking for Everman may be hard to find!
Road sign in google streetview says Everman Road.
Google shows White Bridge Road intersects a bit west of the bridge, but Bing calls the road Applinville Road.
Take your pick, I guess.
"Local Sources" indicated bridge removed. Confirmed!
Google, NBI,at al list this as Everman Road. Road sign from site visit Says Applinville Road.
wonder what was there in 1902? Thanks for the research!
From the 1902 Wayland, NY 15' quad. The old alignment is visible just to the left of center.
At least someone learned from that ordeal, because the cause of the ordeal sure didn't learn from it. :')
That thing is incredible, thanks for posting.
Is this nick named silver car bridge?
Looks like it wintered well.
Nice bridge! Thanks for making the journey! I notice in photos 5 and 6 that no one cleared the snow......
Thanks Dave, feel free to name as appropriate not sure Lock 29 Bridge is really correct.
A stone Arch Aqueduct, a 1914 Phoenix, and an 1858 Whipple from one park point. Certainly worth a detour off the Thruway if ever in New York
It looks more like it reads "ALONZO PEASE, COM" to me. Seems like he was on a Board of Supervisors in the 1870's, probably a Commissioner at some point. At the very least he was a prominent citizen in the area.
The original turntable was built in 1854. The one presently on the site was not. 1854 turntables were constructed differently and were much smaller.
BH Photo #376353 (number 8) is of another bridge, not on this site.