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Haiti Road Bridge

Photos 

Photo taken by Doug Kerr

License: Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike (CC BY-SA)

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BH Photo #249500

Map 

Facts 

Overview
Pratt truss bridge built 1908 moved and reused here in 1964 over Seneca River on Haiti Road. Damaged and eventually lost in 2010
Location
Cayuga County, New York
Status
No longer exists
History
Relocated here ca. 1964; Collapsed due to overweigh snowplow & reset with Bailey truss installed 1990; Portion of bridge deck collapsed 2007, Replaced with a concrete slab in 2010
Builder
- Groton Bridge Co. of Groton, New York
Design
Pratt through truss
Dimensions
Length of largest span: 143.1 ft.
Total length: 144.0 ft.
Deck width: 16.1 ft.
Also called
Seneca River Bridge
Approximate latitude, longitude
+43.08000, -76.64667   (decimal degrees)
43°04'48" N, 76°38'48" W   (degrees°minutes'seconds")
Approximate UTM coordinates
18/365955/4771014 (zone/easting/northing)
Quadrangle map:
Montezuma
Average daily traffic (as of 2000)
136
Inventory numbers
NY 2257690 (New York State bridge identification number)
BH 50091 (Bridgehunter.com ID)
Inspection report (as of November 2012)
Overall condition: Good
Superstructure condition rating: Excellent (9 out of 9)
Substructure condition rating: Excellent (9 out of 9)
Deck condition rating: Excellent (9 out of 9)
Sufficiency rating: 82 (out of 100)
View more at BridgeReports.com

Update Log 

  • November 12, 2020: Updated by Art Suckewer: tweaked info
  • November 12, 2020: Updated by Luke: Reverted netry back to being for the relocated Groton Bridge Co./bailey pony combo
  • November 12, 2020: New Street View added by Doug K
  • February 26, 2013: Updated by Luke Harden: Correcteed type: Bridge was a through truss with a baily truss shoved inside it.
  • November 8, 2011: Added by Nathan Holth

Sources 

Comments 

Haiti Road Bridge
Posted November 12, 2020, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Guys,

This entry is about the 1908 Pratt moved here in 1964. The bailey is relevant as a reinforcement. The slab is relevant as the replacement. I edited the entry as it was listed as open and thus seemed to imply the Pratt still existed.

Considering the site is called bridgehunter, listing the span as open and noting in the fine print that the Pratt is gone is a disservice.

Explaining the history of the prior spans makes sense to me. If there were prior distinct spans, then they deserve separate entries.

However, the Baily is a reinforcement of the primary Pratt structure (yes, I am aware the Baily provides more strength than the Pratt but its no different than an I-beam reinforcement). Its also a similar situation to having part of a covered bridge washed away then rebuilt or a covered bridge that is restored to original spec. using a small fraction of its original wood. Here it is considered the same span with a notation to the change.

Noting what is presently here is also important. However, I don't see the point of creating a distinct entry for the slab as most aren't interested in seeking out concrete slabs unless there something significant about them.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards,

Art S.

Haiti Road Bridge
Posted November 12, 2020, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Fully agree with Luke on this one.

The only entry should be for the 1908 span that was relocated here... with the addition of the Bailey trusses being a side note. Even if the 1908 span had completely collapsed I personally wouldn't want to see a 1990 Bailey added here.

The slab bridge is not notable... unless you want to resurrect the Uglybridges site.

Haiti Road Bridge (2010)
Posted November 12, 2020, by Luke

"Bridgehunter.com Historic and Notable Bridges of the U.S."

That's the pretty much the guidance right there.

There's a lot of stuff here that's historic AND notable

There's a lot of stuff here that's historic, but NOT notable (1800s deck plate girders are still deck plate girders.)

There's some stuff here that modern AND notable.

What you won't find much of, and you'll get pushback from others for, is stuff that is modern AND not notable.

Haiti Road Bridge (2010)
Posted November 12, 2020, by Luke

No, there are TWO bridges.

The Groton span relocated in 1964, which was later MODIFIED* with a supplementary bailey truss after the original deck failed under snowplow.

The 2010 bridge that didn't have an entry and SHOULDN'T have an entry because it's a boring, ugly modern bridge with 0 uniqueness to its design.

*No, a SUPPLEMENTARY modification to a truss that retains the original superstructure does not warrant a separate entry, as there are several trusses on here with supplementary arches added.

e.g

http://bridgehunter.com/mi/midland/565440600030B01/

Haiti Road Bridge
Posted November 12, 2020, by Doug K

Trying to understand and use logical inclusion and naming criteria since nothing else is listed anywhere beyond the About-Introduction.

So the reason not to have the 2010 bridge is what? The database has lots of newer bridges and lots of steel stringers. It would be great if guidance were given.

Haiti Road Bridge
Posted November 12, 2020, by Doug K

There were only two bridge pages for this location, but there are 3 bridges: the 1964 original that used parts of the BH 71482 Seneca River bridge, the temporary Bailey from 1990 to 2010, and the 2010 new build. The 1964 bridge was present, but had partially collapsed and was not the structure is use, from 1990 to 2010. If they put the Bailey on the old footings, that can be noted. The pictures were not correct for the 2010 bridge.

Haiti Road Bridge (2010)
Posted November 12, 2020, by Luke

Doug Klingerman,

Why are you converting this entry, which has imagery of the Groton span relocated from the original river crossing AND the bailey truss fixup into an entry for the 2010 stringer that DOES NOT belong on this site?

Even though it /is/ itself a duplicate (https://bridgehunter.com/ny/cayuga/bh46243/), since it has imagery, it should have a merge request filled, not converted.(Esp. when the replacement isn't notable.)

Haiti Island Bridge
Posted February 26, 2013, by CANALLER

A floor beam of the original through truss broke free. New bridge was installed on 2010.

Seneca River Bridge
Posted February 26, 2013, by Zac Bucklin (manningjreli [at] yahoo [dot] com)

collapsed and replaced by a new bridge 2011?

Seneca River Bridge
Posted November 11, 2011, by CANALLER

Both Haiti Rd. trusses no longer exist.