Is the East Pascagoula Train Bridge operated remotely or is it manned? Thank You for your time and assistance with this question.
This bridge is now closed with plans to demolish and replace with a new bridge. So sad.
I doubt this bridge is going to get any effort to be preserved, considering it's history.
It was a cool night, according to the weather history, 65 degrees. And the car was found with the windows down but why on a cool night? Was a half-moon, waning, some light, but why was the car found with the windows rolled down? Her Purse and Keys were missing, What if, Angela was not there that night at all? What if she was murdered somewhere else, and her car was driven to the bridge in an effort to throw off police? I would guess whoever was driving it that night was a woman, which could have been wearing some of Angela's attire, shoes included. Blood could have been brought to the scene also and sprinkled around to make it look like a crime happened there. She was last seen at around 1am, so that would have been about 5 hours & 40 minutes that had transpired from when she was last seen to when her car was found at 6:40am. If so, then there has to be another party involved. Whenever Angela is located, I believe her purse will be with her, can't afford anyone to recognize it. Only her keys would be needed, and the driver as human nature would dictate probably put them in a pocket or purse. The crime probably happened not too long after Angela left the Pizza Hut parking lot, but the offending party did have time to come up with a plan. Question is, where is Angela's remains? I would guess at the very most, still in the local area. Time was ticking toward dawn, they had to get rid of the car, and couldn't leave it at the crime scene because that would betray the place of the crime, and those involved. Plus, they didn't have but maybe a few hours to hide the remains looking at a 6 hour time period, minus the time of the incident and the drive to the Bridge, and back. I think the chances would be greater of her being murdered during a heated domestic argument, in the heat of the moment, than on a rural road near a bridge where people just might be coming down the road and witness the event..
From the Natchez Democrat, dec. 22, 1907.
"one brick bridge (Spanish bayou) $948.74.
This is the bridge pictured above.
Signs Unveiled Honoring '39 Disaster (2014)
Very interesting. I drove over this bridge in November, but I had no idea what had happened here. The road to this bridge is a rough ride, but the bridges on the route are awesome!
The comment that this bridge was replaced by a new new alignment of Hwy 61 in 1987 is incorrect. US 61 followed basically its current alignment through southern Warren County and Big Black crossing near Deer Park in Claiborne County for several decades as a two-lane highway prior to Mississippi's building out its main US highways to divided four-lane.
Detail of original railing section and later repair/replacement section.
Date of photos December 2003.
Partial collapse March 29, 1939, with 15 fatalities. Traffic between Jackson and Vicksburg was re-routed officially via Utica on MS 18 and MS 3 (now MS 27), with the Askew Ferry Road/Freetown Road route also available.
Contemporary photo credit unknown.
Warrior's Trail / Dixie Overland Highway / US 80 (pre-1929).
Photos taken December 2003.
A hydrograph used by the Army Corps of Engineers?Never heard of that being used by them especially around a bridge.Here in Pennsylvania they built reservoirs and dams.Maybe this is something I don't know of.
It's not a out house it's a hydrograph used by the army corps of engineers.
Thank you for sharing your photos of this bridge!
This bridge, and a whole bunch of acreage, could be yours for only $12,790,000
Very cool to find more info on this. I hadn't had much luck web searching or a chance to visit the area yet.
For anyone else wanting to see the image on realtree's site, add "/deer-hunting-in-the-deep-south" after "/galleries" in Nathan's link.
For those who don't want to do that, here's the image:
A quick search for Noxubee River bridge on Google appears to provide some insight. A photo of the bridge (#9) on this page https://www.realtree.com/deer-hunting/galleries/deer-hunting... shows that this is a King bowstring with altered vertical members and altered overhead bracing. This is in fact a pony truss bridge by design. The webpage further mentions it is located in the Brookston Plantation. My Google search also found a postcard which I believe may be the same bridge. Note that the verticals are unaltered in the postcard.
I have been intrigued by this bridge for a long time. It would be awesome to find a Bowstring in Mississippi. Bowstring bridges are extremely rare in the Deep South from what I understand.
The GIS for the county is incomplete. The dirt roads do not appear to be county property but the system doesn't seem to have owner info attached to the parcels near the bridge.
It looks like feet on the ground asking locals for permission is going to get the pics.
This is a great piece that shouldn't be sold off to scrappers.
I tried visiting this bridge today and access to it is prohibited as far as I can tell.
Both attempted approaches to get to it were met by Private Property signs. I've attached photos of both points I met private property signs.
The one with the gate was located at 33.147120,-88.621120. The one in the timber area was located at 33.118565,-88.719111. It was late and I didn't have time to try and find another route.
I would suggest trying to contact the owner of the place with the gate and see if they will allow you on their property to view the bridge. These are all dirt roads in this area.
"The silent shade bride collapsed"
How is the groom taking it?
The silent shade bride collapsed sometime between February 2017 and January 26th 2018
For the reference of everyone: The Coldwater River's confluence with the (Little) Tallahatchie River is at 34.183853,-90.214889, which is well upstream of here.
That would be the ole Bankhead highway.
This is Old Washington Rd bridge. Never rr bridge. original bridge 200 yards up stream. original rr bridge from 1836 to 1844. around 1880+- Little jay line, to Raymond miss and up,
This bridge is the old bridge to Washington, MS. Never a rr brige. Have deed map of 1848 showing two locations. let me know if you are interested in the deed map.
I have a recollection of a news item that appeared at the time of the renaming of the bridge used in filming as the "Tallahatchie Bridge". According to the article, an elderly woman protested before the start of the solemnities that the bridge was named for her grandfather, who had designed it, and they had no business renaming the bridge. She was taken away from the vicinity and the festivities continued. If I recall correctly, the name originally on that bridge would have been "Reynolds". Can anyone confirm or deny that account or verify what the original name of the bridge actually was?
That would be the ole Bankhead highway.
This bridge (and the road leading to it) is closed as of November, 2017. The approach from the south is flooded, but can be waded on foot. The photo was taken by me on November 16, 2017 as dusk was coming on. Sad that this bridge has been allowed to deteriorate.
But what creek does it cross?
That would be the ole Bankhead highway.
Pardon the autocorrect typos. ***Though, not the whole***
I field visited this bridge today but as I was trying to drive across the country in a hurry I did not have time to stop to document it.
I did want to report the whole that the bridge is still open to traffic with no signs of replacement. Hopefully Mississippi will preserve it as it is on the NRHP.
There are several smaller overflow bridges along this stretch of road which appear to have been built at roughly the same time as this bridge.
The road coming in from the east is extremely rough with lots of potholes. Take it slowly! The road from the west is in much better condition.
Thanks Luke, wish I was near enough for a quick visit, love to see underneath this one!
Has anyone found any more on this one?
Duplicate, other one has photos
While we were all busy kicking the copyright football back and forth, Ms. Robinson did a field visit to a great bridge in Mississippi. I appreciate seeing the photos of it on here.
One interesting thing about this bridge is it has a Tennessee steel brand. This brand has been found on a few other bridges, so this is not the only example. That being said, I believe that this is one of the more uncommon nrands out there.
I'm glad to see some more Mississippi contributions on here. The state of Mississippi has not received as much coverage on here as some of the northeastern states. There are some great bridges in Mississippi that are well worth including on this website.
More pics from a few weeks ago.
Saved by utilities lol
Saved by utilities lol
Is this bridge no longe standing?
That is great news! I am glad that the landowner is taking care of it. It will be good to see some more Mississippi Bridges on here.
I went to this bridge a few weeks ago to find that a local farmer has cleaned around the bridge. I drove up to it and walked all around it. I also took pics. Will upload them soon.
This bridge still stands and is open to traffic.
All of the bridges built in 1938 in this bottom are being replaced now.
This is a significant find. A great Pratt truss was some angled lattice portal bracing. This one might even be wrought iron. I would not be surprised if it is composed of both Wrought Iron and Steel.
It makes me want to go Bridgehunting in Mississippi. When I drove across Mississippi in November of 2014, the Fall colors were really beautiful.
Well, I am glad that the webmaster has weighed in. I will accept his decision whatever it turns out to be.
James, it is funny that you should mention the Whitewater river in Missouri. We had a very similar thing happened with the Whitewater River in Kansas. It has been known as both the Whitewater Creek and Whitewater River but the official name is now Whitewater River. To make matters more complicated there are various branches known as Whitewater Creek which join the main branches of the Whitewater River.
This is a Pandora's Box for sure.
In 1972 the U.S. Board on Geographic Names decided that this is the Little Tallahatchie River. Their documentation can be found on the USGS website here:
Perform a search for "Tallahatchie" in Mississippi, drill down to the entry for Little Tallahatchie River, and then look for the "BGN Subject Folders" section. (It's not possible to link to the specific page due to the screwy design of their website.)
On the other hand, it's hard to argue against local usage. The fact that the road signs say "Tallahatchie River" at this bridge is very compelling. Likewise, the National Bridge Inventory, based on records provided by MDOT, seems to prefer Tallahatchie River for the entire river below Sardis Lake.
The BGN Principles, Policies, and Procedures manual states: "The underlying principle of the BGN for establishing official geographic names and their applications is recognition of present-day local usage or preferences."
However, the BGN has had a long history of not always following that principle. Instead of standardizing names, they've sowed confusion by adopting positions that are clearly the opposite of local usage.
Consider, for example, the Pittsburg(h) fiasco:
I'm particularly peeved about one of their decisions several years ago in Southeast Missouri to demote Whitewater River to "Upper Whitewater Creek" despite zero evidence that the stream has ever been called a "creek" throughout 200+ years of history.
Luckily for us we're under no obligation to follow every BGN decision. And how!
To complicate matters, this particular bridge sits at the transition point between the original river channel and the modern Panola Quitman Floodway, a man-made diversion channel labeled as such by the DeLorme atlas.
And then there's Google Maps, which consistently labels the entire river system as "Little Tallahatchie River" -- even those portions that most everyone, including the BGN, consider to be the main Tallahatchie River.
So, in a nutshell, it's complicated.
Dummyline Road running through Asa follows the alignment of the Yazoo & Mississippi Valley Railroad according to the 1932 Sledge, MS quadrangle.
Dummy line was a term for some steam streetcars and interurbans.
And the old song:
I noticed that too. I have not found anything definitive, but these are a couple of interesting links:
I'd like to know the story behind the naming of the nearby Dummyline Road!
"Unknown status", but nothing there so I would hazard a guess the bridge is lost
According to Encyclopaedia Britanica, the river is also known as the Little Tallahatchie. Thus, I can see where there might be some confusion here.
As Luke pointed out, the variety of online maps do not agree on the name. That being said, we do want to have all information on here to be factual. If a few maps have the wrong river we still want to have the right river, or at least the most commonly accepted name. Bridgehunter has a special field for alternate name, and I think that we should use that special field for its intended purpose.
Based on my field visit, Tallahatchie seems to be the most common name. I crossed the river at two different locations, and at both crossings the name Tallahatchie was used. I have added a Google Streetview showing the sign with the river name as Tallahatchie. In addition, I have read several news reports about this bridge, and another one over the same river. All of these news reports use the name Tallahatchie instead of Little Tallahatchie.
For now, I have changed this listing back to its original name. Either way, I think that the Webmaster should make the call here - perhaps in consultation with our Mississippi Contributors. Those of us who are not from the area should defer to the locals and to the Webmaster on this one.
FWIW s topo map from 1965 also call this the Little Tallahatchie River, though those also spell streams wrong from time to time.
See: Worle Creek in Ames, Iowa.
Later topo maps and Google both misspell it as Worrell, when city documents/locals/older topos all use Worle.
I should mention that Google Maps seems to have erroneously labeled this river as the Little Tallahatchie. It is really the Tallahatchie. The Little Tallahatchie is to the West.
What an awesome bridge! I sure hope that it might ultimately be preserved. Mississippi seems to have some nice bridges. I certainly hope to do some more Bridgehunting in the South someday.
Reading through news articles, I am seeing conflicting reports of repair vs replace. We might have to punt this one to the Mississippi contributors on here.
I drove over this bridge in November of 2014. There was no sign of construction here at all.
But...according to the June 2016 Google Streetview, trees are being cleared at both ends of the bridge. This one is being replaced. I don't know if it will be retained or demolished.
Bridge was removed in late 2015 or early 2016.
Why no one has put the moody boys in this equation is beyond me. I went to school and was good friends with family of theirs. I was around them often. Kenneth loved the woods and on one occasion chased me, my brother and a cousin through the woods. They lived close to there and were very familiar and comfortable with those woods.
This bridge has been replaced by a concrete bridge (I don't know types so can't classify) in the last couple of years. The road either side has also been regraded and resurfaced.
Assuming this is the same bridge as is being reported on by NWS Mobile, and I think it is, this span has sadly been claimed by high waters resulting from flooding left in Tropical Storm Cindy's wake.
This bridge is in Rankin County, not Hinds County. There's a separate entry for it under Rankin County.
I love that bridge, and always stop to walk around and look whenever I am in Vicksburg.
I crossed it in August of 1967 with my family; 5 of us packed into a brand new '67 Buick Wildcat, headed to visit relatives in El Paso.
I'll always remember it. It was early in the morning, and I was asleep in the back seat. My mom woke me up so I'd see the bridge. I remember still my dad talking about how narrow it was, and how the mirrors of trucks would hit when they passed.
In '67, parts of I-20 from Jackson to Vicksburg were open, but we still had to take old highway 80 through Vicksburg and across the river.
No signs of imminent replacement.
I believe, according to the 1908 Simpson County News newspaper article this bridge was built or started construction in 1908.
It was operational into the 1950's (http://www.aboutgreenwoodms.com/yazoo.html).
The wife is equally tainted. Any time either of us see a bridge on TV, we holler "Iron Bridge". I Love It!!!
I think I just viewed this bridge in a 2016 horror flick called "The Devil's Dolls". It was filmed in Mississippi.
I'm not sure, David. It's been a long time since I have been to it.
Bridge opened for business yesterday afternoon.
I visited the bridge on October 7, 2016. It was still closed, but I spoke with a Mississippi DOT official who said the bridge would likely reopen sometime the following week.
Can one still walk to the old bridge?
Looks like 1920's-30's design.
Definitely NOT 1932. Natchez Trace Parkway construction didn't get underway until the late '30s, and this four-lane section of what was then US 78 was completed in 1961.
This is a picture of this bridge being built
This is a picture of this bridge being built
On Cooper Rd
Replacement bridge expect to be complete 2018 per MDOT website
Available for reuse, and therefore likely also at risk for demolition. http://www.copiahcountycourier.com/2016/07/08/historic-copia...
This is a great bridge. I crossed a couple bridges over the Tallahatchie near Oxford and Batesville on my one and only trip through Mississippi. Looks like I need to do some more Bridgehunting there.
there must not be very many people who live on stuckey's bridge road.
another bridge saved by the utilities department.
first one like it i have seen!
It does appear to have been removed after the new bridge opened.
Also, Google now calls the waterway Miles Creek. Is it better to call it Miles Creek bridge, or name it after the town?
looks like the bridge has been removed per google earth
it's said that the road will remained closed until sometime in October.
the bridge crosses Boguefala Creek, not Bogueaba Creek.
i live very close to this bridge. Road 1310 is the old bankhead highway.
Attached photo I took in Sept. 13, 2014 of Ashwood Bridge plaque at south end of bridge.
MDOT will be closing Hwy 178 East and West lanes for maintenance on this bridge. I believe one thing that is being done is painting the metal structure. It sure needs a fresh coat.
Turn south on HWY 49 off of HWY 82 east of Greenwood. Turn right on HWY 512 after traveling approximately 5 miles on 49. HWY 512 will turn into old route 7 (bear left when you get to the river) go approximately 1 to 2 miles and you'll see the new concrete bridge with the plaque attached on the right side of the bridge (east end).
i don't see the old bridge on google earth. has it been demolished?
So how would you get to the location of the Tallahatchie bridge from Greenwood. Directions, please. Thanks.
You have its location as both Washington AND Humphreys County. It is in Humphreys and more than 50 miles from Washington.
a photo of this bridge would be great.
This bridge is the same bridge that I added a while back.
On closer examination it looks like the rail cars used were CSX rail cars.