The portal bracing also points to a possible King structure.
It would be really interesting to know when this bridge was built. It has pin connections with unusual pins that are actually giant bolts meaning one end has a solid square head attached to the threaded rod. I know the King Bridge Company sometimes used these in place of regular pins, but beyond that I have no idea if this bridge is a King.
Wow! The best use of a drone that I've seen!!
yes, this is a great distraction for what I should be doing...
This may be the bridge with 1906 - 1912 dates.
That video was Amazing!
Art, we've had a busy day!
Cool video of the bridge shot in Jan of 2017:
Found it, looks like he put it up twice!:
The Yazoo River Bridge
On Monday, the Board of Supervisors let the contract for the bridge across the Yazoo River. It is to span the river at the head of Fulton Street, just above the P. Line warehouse. The contract was given to the Croten Bridge Company, a New York firm who made the survey last year, their bid being the lowest and in accord with the specifications and requirements made by the Board. It was let for the sum of $25,000. This bridge will do great things for Greenwood. We understand that a number of our citizens intend to purchase building lots across the river, so there will be a suburb to our town called North Greenwood, and thus we continue to grow and in the years to come, we'll have "Greater Greenwood".
From The Daily Flag, January 7, 1898
The pier of the bridge will deflect the current of the river against the bank and very probably cave the bank in front of the P. Line warehouse and courthouse, and along the front below the courthouse. If this happens, it will destroy a street that will cost the city a great deal of money to replace. A line of piling could be put in from where the current strikes the bank at a very normal cost, compared with what the street will cost if done while the contractors for the bridge have the steam pile driver in the river.
From The Daily Flag, August 5, 1898
It is now only a matter of a very short time when contractor Young will turn the bridge, which spans the Yazoo at this place, over to the board of supervisors. It is a massive structure, and when completed, will cost in the neighborhood of $25,000.00. The height of the middle pier from top to bottom is 96 feet and 277 feet long: the south side pier is 77 feet, and the north side is 112 feet long, with 300 feet of earthfill, making the total length of the bridge from the extreme north end to the extreme south end, 766 feet. The bridge has been a long felt want in Greenwood for many years, and now that it is about to be turned over to the county, everyone rejoices. Contractor Young certainly understands his business, and this work reflects much credit upon him as a bridge builder.
From the Delta Flag, January 13, 1899.
Board of Supervisors
The regular monthly session of the County Fathers met last Monday and continued till Wednesday morning, all members being present. The following business was transacted:
Ordered that no one shall drive or ride faster than a walk over iron bridge across the Yazoo River at Greenwood, and no one be allowed to ride a bicycle across said bridge, and anyone violating such order shall be fined $5.
In the matter of the Yazoo Bridge. Be it remembered that on this day, the 6th of March, 1899, being the day of regular session of the Supervisors of Leflore County, Mississippi, The Groton Bridge Co., of Groton N.Y., the contractor who was employed by said Board to build and complete said bridge over the Yazoo River, and approaches thereto, at the city of Greenwood, in said county, presented to said Board for their acceptance of said bridge, and the said Board of Supervisors (every member thereto), repaired to said bridge and completely examined the same for it's entire length, including the earth dump or approaches thereto, and the said Board, in addition to the said examination, carefully read the report of J.H. Frederickson, an engineer appointed to examine said bridge and it's approaches and to report to said Board wherether said bridge and said approaches were built and constructed to the plans and specifications on file with the Clerk of the Board of Supervisors of said county. The said Board of Supervisors accepts said bridge and it's approaches with the express understanding that the Groton Bridge Co., will, within a reasonable time, raise the dump at the north approach to said bridge to the height as indicated and set out in the report of said Frederickson, and that the said Groton Bridge Co. will also, within a reasonable time, put in the bolts as indicated and set out in the aforesaid report of said Frederickson. In the said Board of Supervisors reserve the right to retain out of the deferred payments to be paid for the construction of said bridge the amount that will be required to complete said dump as aforesaid, and to put in bolts as aforesaid, in the event said bridge company fails to do work as aforesaid.
T. Staige Marye, President
Ordered that Board do now adjourn until next regular meeting.
T. Staige Marye, President
From the Delta Flag, March 10, 1899.
In turning the bridge across the Yazoo River Wednesday, one of the shafts of the turning apparatus was broken. While repairs were made, the bridge was turned by means of ropes. A new shaft was made and placed in position Thursday afternoon.
From The Commonwealth, March 11, 1905
The government dredge boat, Ben Humphreys, Capt. J. H. Bobbs in charge, kept many vehicles and people waiting an hour yesterday (Wednesday) evening on the drawbridge while they removed a number of logs from the channel on this side of the river. One lady missed her train on account of it and many busy men were kept from their business. Some of those so delayed expressed the hope that next time the Captain would choose a less busy hour for such a task.
From The Greenwood News, September 13, 1917
DREDGE BOAT WORKING YAZOO
Government Snag and Dredge Boat Now Cleaning Greenwood's Waterways of Stumps
The U.S. Government snag and dredge boat Ben Humphreys arrived here yesterday afternoon about 5 o'clock from Vicksburg and began work in the Yazoo River at the bridge.
It was necessary for the bridge to be opened for fully 30 minutes. The boat was the center of attraction for quite a crowd of eager onlookers who viewed the snag boat in action.
The Ben Humphreys will remain in Greenwood today, working east of the bridge. From here they will go up the river and will return in the next few days, when more work is expected to be done in the river in and around Greenwood.
From The Commonwealth, September 19, 1917
OLD BRIDGE IS CLOSELY CONNECTED WITH GROWTH OF GREENWOOD
The old bridge across the Yazoo River will soon be a thing of history, under the work of demolition now being pushed forward vigorously by the bridge contractors. All of the overhead support has been removed, the first floor of the bridge resting on a false work built underneath.
The new bridge, which replaces the structure now being torn down, will use the center pier, which will be strengthened and enlarged. According to statements of the contractors, the bridge will be ready for use by January 1st.
The old bridge has an interesting history. It's construction is closely identified with the growth of Greenwood and it's development of the county, for it's construction afforded a better access to the western and northern portions of the county, and preceded by but a few years the development of the automobile.
The building of the bridge on which construction work was begun in 1897, did not come without a struggle. The proposal was bitterly fought as being a useless and unnecessary expenditure, and only good generalship and skillful political work brought it about.
It was chiefly to the farsightedness and public spirit of T. Staige Mayre, Father of W. S. Mayre, that the decision to build the bridge was finally made.
Mr. Mayre at that time was president of the Board of Supervisors. A refusal on the part of the other members to order the bridge brought an offer from Mr. Mayre to build the bridge himself, and maintain it as a toll bridge. An election for the bridge was then ordered and carried by an exceedingly small majority.
The bridge, when first constructed, was without walkways, and a constant guard was kept to prevent horses from crossing at a greater speed than five miles an hour. For years, the riding of a bicycle across the bridge was punished by a heavy fine.
The coming of the automobile changed all this, and in twenty years had rendered the bridge, which was opposed so vigorously as being unnecessary, inadequate to handle the daily traffic. After it's construction, the plantations across the river were surveyed into building lots, and today more people live in North Greenwood than were resident in the town of Greenwood when the bridge was first constructed.
From The Greenwood Daily Commonwealth, July 24, 1924
I just re-read your post. Very interesting. I'd be curious if you have any info to support that your great grandfather put up the bridge at this location. The bridge was manufactured by the Groton Bridge Co., did he get a sub-contract to assemble it? Also, especially if he was involved in the original construction, do you know when he built it? The date listed is 1898 but a similar image to yours (above) says it was taken in 1895.
Melissa has found evidence that your great grandfather (or the next generation of your family) re-erected it at a new location in 1927: http://bridgehunter.com/ms/humphreys/silent-shade-swing/ It collapsed within the past few years but its remains are still there.
Art, you're welcome. I'm going to continue searching for more information.
Well, that confirms it as well as who put it back up.
I can't see the article, but looking at the link to the other bridge, I believe you are right! The design elements are the same and the 1898 date makes sense. It also ties into the 1927 date (disassembled in 1925 at the previous site).
I suspect the 1906 - 1912 bridge that Nathan had a lead on was a different structure.
PS. As long as it hasn't been salvaged, its probably recoverable and restoreable - it just takes cubic dollars.
Art, I was curious about the build dates too. The article I found shows this was previously located at Greenwood
That'll buff right out...
Interestingly, it hasn't been salvaged.
Any idea as to the builder and if the '06 and '12 dates are reliable?
Per field visit this bridge (closely inspected) and the other two NTZR bridges shown on this website (photographed at a distance) all have been altered as part of a repair project. Vertical members replaced with rolled beams, bottom chords replaced with bolted replacement, misc rivets replaced with bolts, misc. plated repairs, etc.
Luke... Exactly what I was hoping for when I drove to this bridge. A very sad loss!
And here we were all hoping for another "Amanda" situation.
Its no joking matter this bridge really is gone.
Time is a conceptual force.
Some things will never be answered
at least to those who question.
Can you get to the bridge now?
Good news! The bridge has been re-done and is now open to lightweight passenger vehicles only. The roads to the bridge still have Road Closed signs, but will be updated. The bridge is a single lane span and the view of the river is gorgeous. Well worth the drive. 8/8/2019
Doug ! How was this not on here ?
I'd appreciate any assistance with editing this bridge.
This bridge is now but a memory for its been torn down and replaced for a number of years now.
Built by Virginia Bridge & Iron
Linda THANKS for sharing! Is it Ok if I brighten photo a little and add to listing credited to you?
Here a picture of the Yazoo River Bridge ... which was built by WT Young who was my Great Grandfather. This picture is from his personal pictures circa 1900
Thanks,GS.That's what I thought that building might be.
These bridges have been torn down
I inspected this bridge very closely inside the open spandrel, and it appears to have an outer facade that was added many years after the original open-spandrel bridge was built. There is evidence of the addition upon close inspection. The bridge owner may have wanted to strengthen it somewhat and felt the outer concrete would do that sufficiently.
The KCS is a busy railroad. In the first 30 minutes I was there, two trains both in the same eastbound direction were noted.
Very impressive structure.
This bridge is now fish food. https://www.wtok.com/content/news/Closed-metal-bridge-collap...
Does anybody know what the building is at the one edge of the bridge?Is it tied in to the bridge in some way?
This elegant gentleman is still with us.
Heavy rain had swollen the Big Black River when I visited yesterday and in 90 minutes, I only counted 12 cars. Fast moving water, but the entire bridge spans the river, and the piers were in pretty good shape visually.
Thankfully, the potholes on the east side probably keep a lot of the thru traffic down.
Carry on, fine old gentleman.
finally collapsed on January 16, 2019.
Perhaps this historic bridge could be disassembled and stored until later reuse?
Where was original rock for foundation of old bridge from and what type of rock?
Went by the Lamb-Fish Bridge today (Dec 2, 2018) and found it had been closed very recently. A load of red dirt had been dumped on the approaches from both ends and bridge closed signs had been erected. Looked very recent and hasty. There are more signs behind the pile that had been knocked down by someone driving over the dirt.
Thanks for the tip.
Story and more pictures:
This bridge is currently closed and will be replaced. A truck hauling an excavator hit the bridge a while back and the bridge suffered major damage And a new bridge is being constructed just off to the east.
Rode through in mid-June of 2018 and work is underway to either replace or bypass this bridge, as well as other bridges on MS 18.
I had to open my big mouth.... looks like all the trusses on MS 18 are in the process of being replaced or at the least bypassed.
For those who don't know what we are talking about:
Indeed, Kenny. In fact, I think I'd feel safer crossing the Vitim River Bridge (Kuandinsky Bridge) than this one.
America's Kuandinsky Bridge is a better name for it.
Is the East Pascagoula Train Bridge operated remotely or is it manned? Thank You for your time and assistance with this question.
This bridge is now closed with plans to demolish and replace with a new bridge. So sad.
I doubt this bridge is going to get any effort to be preserved, considering it's history.
It was a cool night, according to the weather history, 65 degrees. And the car was found with the windows down but why on a cool night? Was a half-moon, waning, some light, but why was the car found with the windows rolled down? Her Purse and Keys were missing, What if, Angela was not there that night at all? What if she was murdered somewhere else, and her car was driven to the bridge in an effort to throw off police? I would guess whoever was driving it that night was a woman, which could have been wearing some of Angela's attire, shoes included. Blood could have been brought to the scene also and sprinkled around to make it look like a crime happened there. She was last seen at around 1am, so that would have been about 5 hours & 40 minutes that had transpired from when she was last seen to when her car was found at 6:40am. If so, then there has to be another party involved. Whenever Angela is located, I believe her purse will be with her, can't afford anyone to recognize it. Only her keys would be needed, and the driver as human nature would dictate probably put them in a pocket or purse. The crime probably happened not too long after Angela left the Pizza Hut parking lot, but the offending party did have time to come up with a plan. Question is, where is Angela's remains? I would guess at the very most, still in the local area. Time was ticking toward dawn, they had to get rid of the car, and couldn't leave it at the crime scene because that would betray the place of the crime, and those involved. Plus, they didn't have but maybe a few hours to hide the remains looking at a 6 hour time period, minus the time of the incident and the drive to the Bridge, and back. I think the chances would be greater of her being murdered during a heated domestic argument, in the heat of the moment, than on a rural road near a bridge where people just might be coming down the road and witness the event..
From the Natchez Democrat, dec. 22, 1907.
"one brick bridge (Spanish bayou) $948.74.
This is the bridge pictured above.
Signs Unveiled Honoring '39 Disaster (2014)
Very interesting. I drove over this bridge in November, but I had no idea what had happened here. The road to this bridge is a rough ride, but the bridges on the route are awesome!
The comment that this bridge was replaced by a new new alignment of Hwy 61 in 1987 is incorrect. US 61 followed basically its current alignment through southern Warren County and Big Black crossing near Deer Park in Claiborne County for several decades as a two-lane highway prior to Mississippi's building out its main US highways to divided four-lane.
Detail of original railing section and later repair/replacement section.
Date of photos December 2003.
Partial collapse March 29, 1939, with 15 fatalities. Traffic between Jackson and Vicksburg was re-routed officially via Utica on MS 18 and MS 3 (now MS 27), with the Askew Ferry Road/Freetown Road route also available.
Contemporary photo credit unknown.
Warrior's Trail / Dixie Overland Highway / US 80 (pre-1929).
Photos taken December 2003.
A hydrograph used by the Army Corps of Engineers?Never heard of that being used by them especially around a bridge.Here in Pennsylvania they built reservoirs and dams.Maybe this is something I don't know of.
It's not a out house it's a hydrograph used by the army corps of engineers.
Thank you for sharing your photos of this bridge!
This bridge, and a whole bunch of acreage, could be yours for only $12,790,000
Very cool to find more info on this. I hadn't had much luck web searching or a chance to visit the area yet.
For anyone else wanting to see the image on realtree's site, add "/deer-hunting-in-the-deep-south" after "/galleries" in Nathan's link.
For those who don't want to do that, here's the image:
A quick search for Noxubee River bridge on Google appears to provide some insight. A photo of the bridge (#9) on this page https://www.realtree.com/deer-hunting/galleries/deer-hunting... shows that this is a King bowstring with altered vertical members and altered overhead bracing. This is in fact a pony truss bridge by design. The webpage further mentions it is located in the Brookston Plantation. My Google search also found a postcard which I believe may be the same bridge. Note that the verticals are unaltered in the postcard.
I have been intrigued by this bridge for a long time. It would be awesome to find a Bowstring in Mississippi. Bowstring bridges are extremely rare in the Deep South from what I understand.
The GIS for the county is incomplete. The dirt roads do not appear to be county property but the system doesn't seem to have owner info attached to the parcels near the bridge.
It looks like feet on the ground asking locals for permission is going to get the pics.
This is a great piece that shouldn't be sold off to scrappers.
I tried visiting this bridge today and access to it is prohibited as far as I can tell.
Both attempted approaches to get to it were met by Private Property signs. I've attached photos of both points I met private property signs.
The one with the gate was located at 33.147120,-88.621120. The one in the timber area was located at 33.118565,-88.719111. It was late and I didn't have time to try and find another route.
I would suggest trying to contact the owner of the place with the gate and see if they will allow you on their property to view the bridge. These are all dirt roads in this area.
"The silent shade bride collapsed"
How is the groom taking it?
The silent shade bride collapsed sometime between February 2017 and January 26th 2018
For the reference of everyone: The Coldwater River's confluence with the (Little) Tallahatchie River is at 34.183853,-90.214889, which is well upstream of here.
That would be the ole Bankhead highway.
This is Old Washington Rd bridge. Never rr bridge. original bridge 200 yards up stream. original rr bridge from 1836 to 1844. around 1880+- Little jay line, to Raymond miss and up,
This bridge is the old bridge to Washington, MS. Never a rr brige. Have deed map of 1848 showing two locations. let me know if you are interested in the deed map.
I have a recollection of a news item that appeared at the time of the renaming of the bridge used in filming as the "Tallahatchie Bridge". According to the article, an elderly woman protested before the start of the solemnities that the bridge was named for her grandfather, who had designed it, and they had no business renaming the bridge. She was taken away from the vicinity and the festivities continued. If I recall correctly, the name originally on that bridge would have been "Reynolds". Can anyone confirm or deny that account or verify what the original name of the bridge actually was?
That would be the ole Bankhead highway.
This bridge (and the road leading to it) is closed as of November, 2017. The approach from the south is flooded, but can be waded on foot. The photo was taken by me on November 16, 2017 as dusk was coming on. Sad that this bridge has been allowed to deteriorate.
But what creek does it cross?
That would be the ole Bankhead highway.
Pardon the autocorrect typos. ***Though, not the whole***
I field visited this bridge today but as I was trying to drive across the country in a hurry I did not have time to stop to document it.
I did want to report the whole that the bridge is still open to traffic with no signs of replacement. Hopefully Mississippi will preserve it as it is on the NRHP.
There are several smaller overflow bridges along this stretch of road which appear to have been built at roughly the same time as this bridge.
The road coming in from the east is extremely rough with lots of potholes. Take it slowly! The road from the west is in much better condition.
Thanks Luke, wish I was near enough for a quick visit, love to see underneath this one!
Has anyone found any more on this one?
Duplicate, other one has photos
While we were all busy kicking the copyright football back and forth, Ms. Robinson did a field visit to a great bridge in Mississippi. I appreciate seeing the photos of it on here.
One interesting thing about this bridge is it has a Tennessee steel brand. This brand has been found on a few other bridges, so this is not the only example. That being said, I believe that this is one of the more uncommon nrands out there.
I'm glad to see some more Mississippi contributions on here. The state of Mississippi has not received as much coverage on here as some of the northeastern states. There are some great bridges in Mississippi that are well worth including on this website.
More pics from a few weeks ago.
Saved by utilities lol
Saved by utilities lol
Is this bridge no longe standing?
That is great news! I am glad that the landowner is taking care of it. It will be good to see some more Mississippi Bridges on here.
I went to this bridge a few weeks ago to find that a local farmer has cleaned around the bridge. I drove up to it and walked all around it. I also took pics. Will upload them soon.
This bridge still stands and is open to traffic.
All of the bridges built in 1938 in this bottom are being replaced now.
This is a significant find. A great Pratt truss was some angled lattice portal bracing. This one might even be wrought iron. I would not be surprised if it is composed of both Wrought Iron and Steel.
It makes me want to go Bridgehunting in Mississippi. When I drove across Mississippi in November of 2014, the Fall colors were really beautiful.
Well, I am glad that the webmaster has weighed in. I will accept his decision whatever it turns out to be.
James, it is funny that you should mention the Whitewater river in Missouri. We had a very similar thing happened with the Whitewater River in Kansas. It has been known as both the Whitewater Creek and Whitewater River but the official name is now Whitewater River. To make matters more complicated there are various branches known as Whitewater Creek which join the main branches of the Whitewater River.
This is a Pandora's Box for sure.
In 1972 the U.S. Board on Geographic Names decided that this is the Little Tallahatchie River. Their documentation can be found on the USGS website here:
Perform a search for "Tallahatchie" in Mississippi, drill down to the entry for Little Tallahatchie River, and then look for the "BGN Subject Folders" section. (It's not possible to link to the specific page due to the screwy design of their website.)
On the other hand, it's hard to argue against local usage. The fact that the road signs say "Tallahatchie River" at this bridge is very compelling. Likewise, the National Bridge Inventory, based on records provided by MDOT, seems to prefer Tallahatchie River for the entire river below Sardis Lake.
The BGN Principles, Policies, and Procedures manual states: "The underlying principle of the BGN for establishing official geographic names and their applications is recognition of present-day local usage or preferences."
However, the BGN has had a long history of not always following that principle. Instead of standardizing names, they've sowed confusion by adopting positions that are clearly the opposite of local usage.
Consider, for example, the Pittsburg(h) fiasco:
I'm particularly peeved about one of their decisions several years ago in Southeast Missouri to demote Whitewater River to "Upper Whitewater Creek" despite zero evidence that the stream has ever been called a "creek" throughout 200+ years of history.
Luckily for us we're under no obligation to follow every BGN decision. And how!
To complicate matters, this particular bridge sits at the transition point between the original river channel and the modern Panola Quitman Floodway, a man-made diversion channel labeled as such by the DeLorme atlas.
And then there's Google Maps, which consistently labels the entire river system as "Little Tallahatchie River" -- even those portions that most everyone, including the BGN, consider to be the main Tallahatchie River.
So, in a nutshell, it's complicated.
Dummyline Road running through Asa follows the alignment of the Yazoo & Mississippi Valley Railroad according to the 1932 Sledge, MS quadrangle.