Army.mil story about the removal:
This is a video walkover from west to east by my son, Ken Ballard in 2015.
After talking with a local and looking at maps I suspect the concrete here does not represent a lost bridge and should be considered for deletion. Any thoughts?
Was just here, July 11th, 2017; old bridge removed, new one under construction, west end approach is being modified by dirt work on hillside.
As a Ralls County resident I was not aware of bridge's removal. What a shame! This is a historic location and not just because of the the bridge. Nearby this bridge was the original location of Ralls' 1st mill built in 1820, St. Vrain's Mill. Historically, Ralls Commissioner's and legal counsel have the attitude that it's best to remove 'liabilities' than to preserve them. They are afraid someone will jump off of them! They really have no vision for historic preservation of any kind nor attracting industry.
The absurdness is they built an expensive UECB at another location at another county location. [It's called the million dollar bridge to nowhere] and has little traffic over it. So now, they simply remove this historic bridge, leaving only the low water crossing for the residents nearby.
The same fate befell the Historic rated Butler Ford bridge upstream in Madisonville. Fortunately the McDonald family have moved it to their property for preservation.
"You can lead a Horse to water, but, you can't make him think."
Katherine and Hubert S. were indeed his wife and son. Alonzo J. Tulloch died in 1904. I posted a link to his obituary on his category page. He worked with a lot of firms other than his own company.
I have noticed on several Missouri Valley B&I Works plaques after his 1888 buyout of the firm that also denote "A.J. Tullock & Co. Proprietors". I think he liked to maintain some Autonomy even before he started working in conjunction with other fabricators.
Here is some info I found on MVB&I Works and Tullock courtesy of Kansas Historical Society archives...
"The Missouri Valley Bridge Company was originally formed as a partnership between Edwin I. Farnsworth and D. W. Eaves in 1874. Edwin Farnsworth was one of the early settlers and city officials in Leavenworth, Kansas. In 1867 he was appointed City Engineer, a position he held until 1871, when he became an agent for the Wrought Iron Bridge Company. In 1872, he became Chief Engineer for the competing King Iron Bridge Company of Cleveland, Ohio, which had established a shop in Topeka. Although successful, Farnsworth came to realize that it would be easier to manufacture and sell bridges in Kansas than import them from eastern firms. Returning to Leavenworth, he organized the Missouri Valley Bridge and Iron Works [the initial name was actually the Missouri Valley Bridge Co.] In 1878, the business was taken over by the banking firm of Insley and Shire. A. J. Tullock, an engineer from Rockford, Illinois was named engineer and manager. Farnsworth moved on to found the Kansas City Bridge and Iron Company, the Chicago Bridge and Iron Company and the firm of Farnsworth and Blodgett."
"A. J. Tullock purchased interest in the company in 1880 and was listed as one of the proprietors. In 1888, he purchased the whole operation and operated it until his death in 1904. The company name was also changed in that year to Missouri Valley Bridge and Iron Company."
"In 1904 the company was incorporated and the active members were past employees with the exception of Amos E. Wilson, a local banker. Wilson acted as president until 1907, when Katherine S. Tullock, Vice President, assumed the presidency, holding this office until 1921, when H. S. Tullock became President."
I will assume that Katherine Tullock was likely the widow of A.J., and that H.S. Tullock was probably his son.
Thanks Luke, I was looking for this. I used this or a similar article as the source for adding ABC as the builder for the bridges on this line.
The exact reference is found on page 465, middle column, third paragraph, "Contractors".
According to this, AmBridge built the bridges in association with Tullock: https://books.google.com/books?id=8qIxAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA460&dq=R...
This shows just how incredibly Moronic MoDOT is! Why not just close it off and install a low water crossing NEXT to it! I'm not sure if this was an attempt to remove the bridge intact and the contractor bungled it or what! Rediculous!!!
Todd Baslee Photo
This bridge is being replaced. The road is closed with no defined detour in place.
But not very much time. I spoke with a nearby landowner and MoDot removed it because it was "unsafe". Now it is a horrible low water crossing.
The American Bridge Company did not build this bridge. It was the Midwest Valley Bridge and Iron Works Co. of Leavenworth, KS, which was owned by A. J. Tullock. Every bridge on the Rock Island, St. Louis to Kansas City line, from the Gasconade River to the town of Versailles, Mo was designed and built by this company.
Historicaerials shows a farm here in 1969.
Scheduled to be replaced by 2019 at a cost of $68.2 million.
To me, it looks like the superstructure was replaced between 1871 and the 1936 replacement. The late images do not seem to have the same type of compression members as the early images and a lot of other details are different.
I think this is the same bridge as
Both are in about the same location. Both were built in 1868. Both suffered a collapsed span causing a train to end up in the river in 1879. North Missouri Railroad was absorbed by the Wabash Railroad. And the image on this page sure looks like the same bridge with regard to span size, style, height, etc.
I was going to comment on the "fink" category - but since I think this is a duplicate entry - with less information, it should be deleted and any pertinent information shifted over to the First Wabash page.
Then, regarding the railroad. Should each of the owners be listed? St. Louis, Kansas City and Northern Railway was the successor to North Missouri Railroad - but only lasted from 1872 to 1879 before becoming part of Wabash. For now I'm NOT listing St. Louis, Kansas City and Northern Railway.
And then there is the "Trellis" through trusses. Looks kinda like a double intersecting Warren with half struts/half tension rods.
Visited here late afternoon, June 27th, 2017; trying to fill in the 'blanks' where no pictures existed near me in NE Missouri. Solid bridge, very serviceable, has some of the usual bent railings and beams. More pics to follow as soon as I process them.
The ashlar piers suggest this bridge has been here over a century. The 1950 date may be when they added the concrete caps and raised the approaches.
I would agree. I would guess 1910 at the latest.
This certainly doesn't look like a 1950s railroad bridge to me. Looks more like a ca. 1910 bridge.
Okay, I know that all of you are probably staring at the incredible Whipple truss...
But, I was looking at the pony span, and I was paying special attention to the outriggers. I cannot tell for sure if they are cruciform or not. If, and this is a big if, but if they are cruciform, then perhaps the Kansas City Bridge & Iron Co. might be another company that used cruciform outriggers. This would not be too much of a surprise given that cruciform iron was readily available at one time and the related Missouri Valley Bridge & Iron Works used it.
This is a highly significant bridge on many levels.
Visited here June 27, 2017; bridge is intact but closed by concrete barrier. This was one road / part of access to state bottoms.
Visited here, June 27, 2017. This is one of those must see bridges, especially as a great 'photog' subject. The light was amazing at 8am with a light fog.
Bridge is 'closed' but no barricades are present; deck has been removed in about 4 places to hinder vehicles. Given it's present condition I would agree it likely WAS pretty exciting to cross in a car or truck when it was last open.
I did not venture across it on foot today, because I was alone. No sense in risking anything just for a few more pictures from the other side on this trip.
Visited here late afternoon, June 27, 2017. Bridge is closed by large piles of gravel @ either end. Recent pictures to follow later this week.
Awesome find Clark!!!
The bridge was part of a major road at the time connecting Grandview Missouri with the county seat in Independence. It cut the travel time between the two by several hours. Important for a young man from Grandview who had just purchased his first car so that he could drive to Independence to visit his girlfriend. The young man was Harry Truman and his girlfriend was Bess.
Repairs to start (dated 6/13/2017): http://ccheadliner.com/news/green-bridge-repairs-to-start/ar...
Closed, future uncertain: http://ccheadliner.com/news/modot-closes-green-bridge/articl...
Yet another bridge that Missouri (wrongly) thinks is at the end of its life. http://ccheadliner.com/news/modot-closes-green-bridge/articl...
Formerly Frisco, now BNSF
To the bridge lovers and historians out there: I'm looking for some help. I'm looking for some information on bridges built by the company Raymond and Campbell, as well as additional information on the history of the firm itself. An article has been compiled about the bridge building firm for you to read and contribute. If you have any information on both, plus photos of the bridges built by Raymond and Campbell as well as their agent George C. Wise, please send me a PM or e-mail and I'll be happy to add whatever you have to what I have compiled so far. Thanks for your help. :-) https://bridgehunterschronicles.wordpress.com/2017/06/16/ray...
These 4 Lost Creek Bridges are very similar to the Canal Bridges north of Quincy, IL in Adams & Hancock Counties. I have friends in Elsberry and I'm not sure how I missed them before? Have driven by them a bunch but never caught sight of them! Sounds like a road trip is in order.....
Per MODOT, the bridge is scheduled to close June 12, 2017 for replacement
Visited here June 7, 2017 about 2:30pm. Railings bent up but bridge is still very serviceable.
The concrete abutments for the bridge were heavily damaged by flooding in May 2017. The bridge is currently impassable, leaving families stranded unless they have access to a 4-wheel drive vehicle capable of fording the creek.
Unfortunately, road 9111 is private and has never been owned by the county. The same is true of the bridge, so the county government says they can not repair it. This leaves the families stuck trying to raise $10,000 for new abutments and they are having trouble finding it.
I have no idea whether the QO&KC was double track but it seems unlikely except at sidings. Some pics underneath would give an idea of whether the floor beams are original or not.
This almost reminds me of a Santa Fe bridge that would have been on the double tracked mainline nearby. As some of the midwestern bridgehunters know, the Santa Fe was notorious for selling and reusing spans wherever they could; creating some unique bridges.
FWIW, the Quincy, Omaha and Kansas City Railroad ran north of here between Edina and Know. It was closed in the '30s. Railfans...?
Visited here late afternoon, June 3rd, 2017. Heavy duty girder plate, very wide, could easily accommodate modern farm equipment; possible former RR span moved from elsewhere.
Yes, a very great bridge. Had the pleasure to cross it 4 times in two days with my 2007 Triumph motorcycle w/ my friend Richard, on the way to Chain of Rocks Bridge then to Luna Cafe, (aka Al Capone's bar) for a beer or two, before heading back to the McKinley bridge to joint Pasadena English motorcycles of old ages, club heading to California on Route 66. That was a very wow unique moment for me to be on those two bridges over Mississippi river.
Visited here May 9th, 2017; didn't have a lot of time to spend and left my boots at home so I couldn't go 'feet wet' to center up on the bridge and get the upstream side. Another time.....I'm only 40 minutes away.
On April 16th we were out taking photos and we stopped so I could get photos of the old bridge. Little did I know what would happen to the bridge on May 1st! We returned on May 19th and I took photos of the wreckage. I didn't want to post them on this page so as not to spoil the beauty of the old bridge. I have posted both the "beauty shots" and the "wreckage shots" to my PBase page at this link:
is this bridge still for sale or bid???
This was a wild goose chase. Information and photos at this link suggested this was a functioning replica Holland-style drawbridge:
It, however, has been replaced by a boring non-artistic footbridge.
Just be glad that this bridge has such a beam. Not all bridges have them.
Yes, that floor beam is the only thing keeping this bridge upright. But it could easily fail at any time.
Not even a bridge.
It appears to me that the floor beam underneath the end posts is the only thing that is keeping this bridge from collapsing. That floor beam is allowing this Pratt truss to remain standing as a three-legged bridge for now.
Field visit today: I'm not sure how this bridge is still standing. There's almost nothing supporting the southwest endpost.
That sounds like a reasonable estimation. This bridge appears to be constructed with riveted connections. Rivets began to fall out of favor in the years after WWII as bolted and welded connections became popular.
20's to early 40's it's looking like?
This is a rare example of a Pratt - Warren Hybrid. There was another example in Johnson County Kansas, but it has been replaced.
Neat one - just on northern border of sleepy little RR town
I have been wondering if it was still somewhat intact, albeit undoubtedly mangled.
Field check today: the wreckage is still in the water. The river is still high so only a portion is visible. It's hard to imagine how much water it took to push this bridge off the abutments.
Yes, this bridge is still at its location as of 5/16/17.
As a student at nearby Culver-Stockton College in the mid- to late-1960's, this site was simply known as "The Bus." It was often the rendezvous point for fraternity parties, beer guzzlers, makeout artists and their girlfriends. The floorboards of the old bridge rattled and rumbled whenever a vehicle crossed over the Wyaconda River.
Yes! Another UCEB gone! 😏😀
This one, like so many others in the several-mile abandoned- RR stretch alongside "Old 71" is in rough shape, but a fun visit. Tick season is officially on (never ended?)....pulled off 3 on my leg heading north after this quick visit....
Old stone abutment remnants still under both ends. Very scenic spot.
Found it today. It lives. And is open to public.
That is my concern as well. With these bridges you have to look underneath. That is where the problems often show up first. I know that the collapse of the Columbia Bridge was a complete an unpleasant surprise for me. I would hate for the folks of Windsor Harbor to have the same unpleasant surprise. I suspect that both of these bridges are / were subject to a slowly developing problem.
Let's just hope that precarious footing on the substructure doesn't cause problems! At least it seems to be moving slowly.
This bridge is being besieged by backwaters from the Mississippi River.
News article and video which shows the bridge:
The previous posting about Ball Ford Bridge in Cedar Co. MO is wrong. The bridge was open until 2017, and is closed until repairs can be made. My family has owned the land east of the bridge since 1908.
Beautiful structure... Very unique portals with a pseudo-railroad look to them.
I believe the location listed for Kampeters Bridge/Kampeters Crossing in Maries Co Mo. T41N R10W Section 30 Inventory # BH36444 is incorrect.
I believe the actual location is:
38 17 59N, 91 59 53W - T41N R10W Section 14 Osage Co. Mo.
Information to support this claim.
In one of the images shown on bridgehunter.com the suspension bridge is crossing the Maries River running perpendicular to an abandoned rr track known as the Rock Island RR. Ariel imagery at 38 17 59N, 91 59 53W, dated 3/30/2015, reveals support piers that would support a suspension bridge on each side of the Maries River. The bridge crossed the Maries River from east to west crossing the Rock Island RR on the west side of the Maries River. This was known as Kampeters Trail North East of Argyle Mo. Also there are no tracks running along the Maries River in Maries Co. Missouri
I hope you investigate and correct the location of Kampeters bridge on bridgehunter.com
We are going to get 3 to 5 more inches of rain here in the St Louis area by Friday morning. So more bridges could get taken out.
Well, for those keeping score at home this makes at least two truss bridges in Missouri destroyed by the storm. Hopefully this will be it. At least one modern (ie post 1970) steel stringer was destroyed, so it's not just trust bridges that are susceptible to flooding.
Here is a news article on destruction of this bridge by flooding. http://www.ktts.com/news/local-news/bridges-gone-after-flood...
Here is the bridge being destroyed.
This is the cost of "Do Nothing." This rare bridge should have been relocated, preserved and reused. It was one of the oldest and most unique of its type in the area. States like Indiana have a bridge management plan to address bridges like this. Missouri in contrast has a horrible preservation track record. State policy is just as much to blame here as Mother Nature.
Yes, I hope that we don't lose any others in this flooding event. One bridge collapse is bad enough. This entire multi-state region still has quite a few abandoned trusses, but that number drops with every major flood.
Sad news indeed!
Sounds like the old girl had survived historic floods in the past. Guess it was just time for Mother Nature to have the final say! I just hope this is our only loss!
Pics are 30 mins before it was takin by the flood lots of memories here all we can hope for now is it gets cleaned up for all of us who enjoy this stretch of river every summer in our boats.
Hard to believe this old bridge is now gone. I grew up close to it and crossed it hundreds of times as a kid. Anyone growing up in this area, as well as the surrounding areas, knew of this bridge. It was a long lasting landmark for so many...for so long. Will have many fun memories of this, the last truss bridge in this area.
What a tragic loss. I was afraid that Missouri, Arkansas, and perhaps Oklahoma would lose some bridges in this event.
This flooding illustrates why I am comfortable with restored bridges being moved off of active rivers and placed over nearby smaller creeks, ponds, or drainage ditches. Likewise, I am in favor of them being raised and placed on taller, wider, and sturdier pylons.
The collapse of this bridge represents a terrible loss of a great historic resource. I wish that I could have seen it in person. Thanks for letting us know about this collapse. I will update the page to reflect your information.
Bruns' Bridge was washed away during major flooding on May 1, 2017.
Looks like a 7-panel Pratt... Nice find CV!
it does look unique.
It can be seen in Bing rotated 180 degrees. looks like Hwy V used to T into Rock road, but they just put in a curve and abandoned the bridge.
No visible traces of the road to it either. Bing shows a Lumber Lane that probably connected long ago.
Love mystery bridges.
"Oh I wish I had a pencil thin mustache
Then I could solve some mysteries too"
Would love to know more about this bridge
This bridge had the same portal bracing as a group of much older railroad Pratt trusses in southeast Kansas. It does not look like anything that I would expect on a 1940s bridge. It makes me wonder if this one was relocated.
This looks like a lightweight Pratt. Great find! It is always nice when a complete mystery bridge shows up.
Looks like a very strong possibility John! Definitely the same fabricator and overall appearance. Reasonable distance from the Iowa location to seem feasible as well. Good detective work my friend!
I found a possible former location for this bridge. It appears that it could have been moved from here:
This rail line was constructed in 1899, and the bridge is an exact match in terms of dimensions. In addition, the article on the Iowa page makes note of the spans being relocated to other locations.
I visited the bridge in 2006 on a REALLY windy day. I parked on the Mo. side and while I didn't have any problems I didn't get a good feeling about the area. I probably would have stayed on the bridge longer but I was nervous about leaving my car unattended.
I put together a YouTube about my visit.
This is actually the KCCS line, which was sold to Frisco who combined it with their existing line formally known as the "Blair Line".
The Blair ran from Belton near KC through Harrisonville, LaTour, Clinton and bounced by the KCCS all the way until just north of here where the Blair continued south to Springfield and the KCCS went west to connect in Ash Grove.
When Frisco bought them both, they combined sections of the KCCS and their line and made the "highline", then abandoned portions of both the Blair and the KCCS where they didn't need access anymore.
Finally Frisco abandoned the whole thing in favor of the Truman Lake. Too much money for the amount of bridges needed and they could run trains through the Fort Scott branch into Springfield.
1. President Harry Truman rode on this line before it was closed
2. Ash Grove is where the connection from Fort Scott is, ironically, considering they abandoned that section!
3. The KCCS had a nickname too, "Leaky Roof", because it was so cheap and the cars hardly ever carried anything but clay, so the roof's leaked. It angered a local Flour farmer because his flour would get wet, so he hauled the flour by tractor to the competitor line to have it shipped!
Any chance this is the old highway bridge, prior to the widening of 13 and the arch bridge? Or could this bridge be one of the two Railroad Bridges that would have crossed here? KCCS or Blair Line?
An expansion joint on this bridge recently received emergency repairs:
I finally made it down there a couple years ago after two previous attempts failed due to "road" conditions and loose cattle. Had to park about a mile up and walk, nearly lost a boot in the mud but was mad enough by then to keep going. Thank you for update re: railroad bridge, cleared some things up for me.
The bridge is private and gated. Access is only available by owner invitation or during an event at the abandoned mine. The facility has been closed since the mine flooded in Dec 2015 / Jan 2016. Private events have been scheduled for mid 2017.
Photo taken Feb 20, 2017.
I second Nathan's comment about the quality of the photographs. These are great images. I just wish that they depicted trusses, etc.
I suspect that Missouri has plenty of trusses that need quality documentation. This website relies heavily on locals with knowledge of bridges in their area. We just need to let the UCEBs be UCEBs and concentrate on the good stuff.
There has been quite a few modern eyesores posted recently that don't belong on this site
I am actually genuinely confused. I thought maybe all these bridges were going to turn out to be an elaborate April Fools joke. But they keep coming long after. I honestly am curious why these bridges are being posted. The photos are nice, well-composed, and professional looking. The culverts themselves (not bridges) are somewhat less than remarkable to be polite about it.
Not my comment...
But yes, posting these bridges on Uglybridges would be appropriate. Uglybridges serves a good purpose as a log of modern bridges of all types - plus I think you can access historic bridges posted on Bridgehunter if you are logged into Uglybridges. Whether you like historic bridges, or UCEBS, Uglybridges gives you the best of both worlds.
I would have to agree with...um...whoever it is. This is a better entry for uglybridges.com...plain concrete culverts really don't belong here.