This is a great image, but it appears to be mirror-image reversed. The photo was taken from across the millpond, upstream (south) of the mill, as we can see from the remnant of the old millpond dam. The bridge is downstream (north) of the mill about 100 yards. The mill was on the east side of the river.
I took these pictures in 2018 I believe. The road was closed but I was able to walk across the span. The deck was is very cracked and in rough shape.
Anyone else think there's a link between this design and Pan American of Moberly?
According to Tony, the PanAm of Newcastle never built these, and the only other listed builder of one of these bridges I can find is 5 examples allegedly built by Stupp Bros.
Another bit of evidence supporting this link in an excerpt from the MO HB Inventory from FraserDesign
In addition to the Shelby County Oak Dale spans, Putnam county seems to have a handful of these spans that match ones built by Pan American.
However, unlike the Shelby County spans, I can't seem to find proof of it in Putnam County.
This bridge has the same design features as this one from my hometown: https://bridgehunter.com/ia/muscatine/bh79331/
Newspapers.com search of the Shelby County Herald shows that Pan American Bridge Co. of Newcastle, Indiana, which the Moberly, Missouri company was basically the same as, had multiple contracts let in the county, as did the Moberly concern.
So it stands to reason that they built this bridge.
Bridge closes June 14 for replacement.
The efforts to preserve this bridge are kicking into high gear. Green's Mill Historic Bridge, Inc. is raising funds for the preservation of the bridge: https://greensmillhistoricalbridge.com/
This bridge (photos on this page: https://johnandwilliamtravelblog.com/2020/10/04/katy-trail-r...)
appears to be very similar to the Smith Creek Bridge (http://bridgehunter.com/mo/warren/smith-katy/). The Smith Creek Bridge was built in 1907 by King Bridge Company (Missouri DNR survey on Katy Trail cultural resources). This bridge was built in 1897 by A&P Roberts. I am guessing that the railroad had standard plans and contracted 10 years apart using very similar plans.
I would assume that the Illinois bridge above was built by the same Kellogg Bridge Company. Both spans would have been built for the Chicago & Alton.
From the St. Joseph Union-Observer (May 16th, 1919):
Wikipedia says: The first bridge on the location was built by the St. Joseph Bridge Building Company and cost $716,000 and opened on May 20, 1873, with a crossing by the St. Joseph & Denver City Railroad. The original bridge had six piers with three spans of 300 feet, one fixed span of 80 feet on the east end and a draw span of 3,654 feet makin the total span of 1,345 feet.
The bridge...fell into disrepair and the city bonds were never paid off and it was sold to the bond holders for $5,000 in a foreclosure sale in 1901. The bridge was replaced with the current swing bridge in 1906.
In the comments, there is a photo of the 1906 bridge. The Kansas approaches appear to be the same...so when was the swing span replaced, and why? Another mystery..
I received imagery from 1945 of the bridge washed out (similar to the photos in the comments). A temporary bridge was built between Highway 45 and this bridge. I wonder if the truss may be older than 1951? If so, how much older?
This bridge (and the US-69 EB Bridge) both are nearly identical to older girder bridges built Ca. 1900-1902 along the Rock Island. I would assume it is likely that both of these spans were built with secondhand material when the line was constructed in 1931.
When the RI did significant realignments in western Iowa in the early 1950s, they also did this, reusing some 1899 and 1902 spans with plaques still intact. I would assume some of the other major realignment projects also may have reused older spans.
Here's an interesting link about the abandoned rail bridge that partially remains below the trestle.
I just wrote a Pic of the Week article on this bridge which is also a mystery bridge article as well. Aside from the questions I posed in my article, my biggest question is whether or not the truss bridge is still standing, judging by the pic taken in 2019. Your comments here as well as in the Chronicles page would be much appreciated. Thanks.
This bridge is no longer open to vehicles. Itís barricaded on both sides.
This bridge is no longer open to vehicles. Itís barricaded on both sides.
This bridge is no longer open to vehicles. Itís barricaded on both sides.
Can anyone explain why it was also called the Gilbert-Harris bridge. I would like to know if it is in reference to some of my ancestors. Thanks.
Joan, my dad is Joe Phillips. My mom, Pat and my dad are still alive and kicking but too old to travel much. I'd love to take them for a visit to Missouri but I think it would depress my dad. The old Combs family farm is halfway demolished inside and several buildings have been torn down and replaced with modern metal buildings and a house where the barnyard was. One of my brothers and I drove down to Hamilton for the day to visit the family farm and toss firecrackers at the places Dad used to take us to and shoot guns. Some of our favorites were "The Lilly Pads, Otter Crick (actually Cottonwood Crick at the corner of Wallace and New York) and The Bar Pit (on the east side of the RR tracks at Wallace Drive." I remember going to this bridge (or was it Gould Bridge?) back in the 70s and Shoal Crick was at flood stage. The water was raging and ALMOST touched the bottom of the bridge! I'll try to call you this week so we can talk.
Iím also seeing two distinctly different trusses. Itís possible at least one isnít in an original location, or the bridge was upgraded at some point. Nice work!
....aaah yes indeed, thanks
Nick, those piers belong to http://bridgehunter.com/mo/buchanan/bh86815/
Parked at Saxton Fishing Area Access lot, walked north on path along Platte River to this one....no plaques, at least on west end...pretty spot, evidence of another bridge from long ago with stone abutments just to north
wheeeee!! Pleasant surprise on long hunt for this one along the abandoned overgrown tracks and the waterfront today - Lassig, 1899.....one plaque intact on south side... 7' tall girder, a classic, and evidence of older abutments few dozen yards north - possibly earlier RR bridge or road bridge....fun hike, old beauty preserved in place (also...possibly only NON-open Lassig in MO??)
It has happened to me too many times
It happened to me with https://bridgehunter.com/ia/muscatine/258410/.
I thought my GPS had taken me to the wrong place...
...Nope, just the county having no respect for the early history of a still-active company.
It's not often I come upon a bridge being replaced, or that has been recently replaced.
Yes, I know this isn't the same bridge. I'd delete the comments if I could, but I don't see a way to do that. So I left a note saying that it referred to the previous bridge.
This isn't a railroad bridge
Regarding my previous comment about Patrick Wallace-- please note that the current bridge was built in 1914, but the lynching occurred in 1886. The lynching therefore must have occurred on the previous railroad trestle, presumably also called Bird's Nest Bridge (?). Please delete these comments if this discussion is limited to the current bridge only. Thanks!
"...unrest in Crawford County saw Steelvilleís jail stormed by a riotous mob and the familyís alleged murderer lynched from a nearby railroad trestle."
"With his arms and legs pinioned, Wallace was taken to the nearby Birdís Nest Bridge over the Meramec River. The Crawford Mirror witnessed the scene and reported Wallace denied committing the murders to the end of his life."
Should be rebuild, but this is Missouri so...
..That's literally what I said, that the river was likely relocated in 1929, requiring https://bridgehunter.com/mo/cass/5340022/ to be relocated as well.
Thank you to both.
It looks like someone edited the description already.
Luke, I didn't see anything about a 1929 relocation and Nick had a good point - it looks to be sitting on its original stone abutments. By 1929, the abutments would likely have been poured concrete. Maybe the river was relocated in 1929?
"Sometime in the years between 1880 and 1953 the South Grand River was channelized"
That means sometime between those dates it was channelized.
Given that the listing for the old river bridge says "Relocated 1929", that narrows it down, but I can't find a conclusive date (And I'm more focused on the Eureka Avenue truss in Iowa at the moment.)
Chances are they relocated the other bridge whilst keeping this bridge as an approach structure until it was bypassed
Yeah, somebody goofed in the description Art... bridge was built in 1880 according to the plaque. I would assume that the new channel was dredged closer to the 53' date and they just decided to build a new bridge rather than move the old.
Something doesn't make sense in the description. Its an 1880 bridge. Does that mean the bridge sits over the original river channel? If so, and channel was altered in 1885, why wasn't the bridge moved over the new channel? I'm probably just not reading the description correctly.
I spoke to the gentleman who lives just East of the bridge. He explained that the bridge is slated to be replaced, this summer, in 2021.
Bridge is likely to be replaced soon. Site is surveyed and equipment is in place.
I donít think it is being used on any consistent basis. The area was not signed off that I saw.
I am interested in preserving this bridge. I have begun the process with the county, but am running into some expensive roadblocks. Are there entities that can help with the legal and engineering requirements? I really just need to know if preserving it is even possible from a financial standpoint. Maybe another interested party would advise me? From what I can see, this is the oldest through-truss bridge in Missouri. Maybe its worth preserving. It means a lot to me personally.
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The Mitchell Avenue bridge across the 102 River was a through truss not a pony truss. http://bridgehunter.com/mo/buchanan/mitchell-road/?fbclid=Iw...
Here's a photo I made from my back yard when I was a kid, simultaneously showing the original one-lane Hilliard Bridge and its "new" two-lane replacement.
I'm gonna guess this one received some new stringers at some point. Photo 7 shows quite a bend in the floor beam. Perhaps the stringers are carrying the bulk of the load?
A success story that should echo throughout the country. https://bridgehunterschronicles.wordpress.com/2021/04/07/riv... Well done, everyone! :-)
YouTube underwater clip of old bridge, not incredibly exciting in the muck, but, here it is....looks to be some sort of hanging sign at one point, hard to make out and clip creator didn't stop to focus on it, possibly a safety sign to go along with the safety bell he rings, pretty cool....ITS STILL DOWN THERE...at least part of it....
Interesting bridge. Thanks for sharing.
Added a short clip to this page of our 2020 visit
The bridge is being set!
The south end of the bridge was damaged by somebody, leading to the south end of the the bridge to collapse. Flood waters and log pile ups against the rest of it pushed it in the water. A lot of memories on this bridge
After consulting old maps it was Route D
The arch rings are in terrible shape on this one.
It looks as if the link to the historic Missouri Bridge inventory will not allow access.
Myself, wife & son visited here today. Took a few pics but took driver over / walk over videos and watched 2 trains pass under. Railings are a little worse for wear, bridge groans a bit driving over, but she's doing well when we left. This is sure to be a great photo op in the fall.
A few years ago, I did an interview with Judith Stupp about the Stupp Brothers Bridge Company in connection with a project to save the Meramec Route 66 Bridge. A few years later and honoring James Baughn for his work in finding and photographing numerous works by Stupp, the interview is being posted here: https://bridgehunterschronicles.wordpress.com/2021/03/19/stu...
Missouri DOT unveiled renderings of the proposed new bridge. It's an ugly UCEB. The Mayor of Kansas City is NOT happy about the design.
a jumpy video clip posted to YouTube on our 2016 visit
Visited the site today, 3/14/21. Bridge is in outdoor storage, adjacent to original location.
The new bridge is open!
Just posted a short YouTube clip from about 2016, standing between the old and newer bridges right next to each other
Do not attempt to traverse Yale Ave on a wet day, or if it is over-grown with vegetation. I was lucky, today. I drove my Jeep Wrangler in, about 1/2 mile (just past the turn to the North), before I parked and walked the rest of the way in (about 3/8 of a Mile).
I solved the "mystery":
A.J. Tullock was the designer for all the bridges on the StLKC&C. The bridge contract, howerver, was split betwixt his Missouri Valley (East of Versailles) and AmBridge (West of Versailles).
AmBridge belongs on all of those DPGs/TPGs, as well as Tullock, whose name is there, I presume, because of Ye Olde Ego.
As of May 2020, this one is carrying a trail. However, it appears that Jackson County is still planning on replacing it.
i went by a couple of months ago and they are clearing growth and taking up the rails for the new trail. The underpass was still there although still partially filled on the east.
It looks like this one may have been demolished or at least filled in on the newest Google Earth imagery from May 2020..although I can still clearly make out the east portal.
Reportedly, a parallel pedestrian bridge has/will be constructed here
Hi. Amanda here. Iím very much excited to learn that I was wrong about this bridgeís demise! They cleared out a large portion of that area and there was a large stack of stones so I just assumed. I shouldnít have and Iím sorry. But again, very very happy to hear it still exists! I get so sad every time I drive past it.
Used to fish in this area 1960s bridge had a wood deck.
My dad grandpa and I would shoot gar standing on that bridge.
Good fishing good times.
Always my pleasure Neil! This is a neat little span that would be pretty easy to pick up and relocate to a park. It's rather amusing how massive the stone abutments are compared to the bridge. I'm guessing that they cost far more than the trusses.
Good eye, Tony! Thanks for the update!
I saw that this bridge was actually saved..just by asking! I do not have the current location, but someone posted on Facebook this morning that it was moved to a farm. In addition, she gave information that the bridge was built 1887 at the Grand River a few miles east, and moved here. She said that the locals had given the date and location, but was not 100% certain. Railroad engineers stated the bridge was disassembled and moved here in 1911, which does align with what my copy of Santa Fe bridge records suggests.
Regarding the 1887 date, I do have questions. The Missouri Historic Bridge Inventory provided the 1895 date, but it is very possible the 1887 date is correct. In fact, the railroad first built this line in 1887, making me question further. Also curious, the railroad made a number of improvements between KC and Chicago during the 1895 year.
I have found a couple sources of records at the KSHS. I do not know if they will yield any additional information, but I will sure look.
Hi, I'm a photographer and have been eyeing this bridge for some time. How do I get access to it?
Great photos. Interesting bridge.
This bridge was replaced in 2018-2019
Such a project is underway, but there's a lot of NIMBYism from farmers trying to stop it, complete with the same bad-faith arguments you hear from NIMBYs in the city.
By looking at the satellite photos after the fire, there appears minimal damage to the bridge. With it three tunnels and two impressive bridges, converting the abandoned Rock Island line into a rail to trail would certainly rival the popularity of the Katy Trail.
Fond memories of when my Uncle Bill(Carl)Helvey and Aunt Boots owned that pavilion across this bridge. They had the bar and it had pool tables and a dance hall where many bands played and the folks that were camping also the locals would come to listen and dance. I remember horses being tied up to the posts that held the pavilion up so when the river flooded the water wouldnít get in it. Thinking my uncle sold that early 80ís.
The part of the bridge over Broadway Street was in really bad shape. It's the one part where it relies on the former span used for autos and many of the crossbeams were suffering from severe corrosion. Also that turn to enter the bridge was such that Union Pacific could not take certain weights and geometries over the span and had to re-route them to either Thebes or Clinton, Iowa. Union Pacific has cut a deal with Norfolk Southern to use the former Wabash from KCMO to Springfield, IL while the MacArthur is out of service. CSX announced that they will not interchange stack trains in East St Louis with UP for a period of time until the bridge work is complete and then re-evaluate. TRRA says that removing the auto deck from 1917 will add 80 years of life to the bridge by reducing the sprung weight.Grants of $7 million and $28 million from the Feds have recently arrived to help TRRA pay for the rehabilitation.
Hey Neil! Cool Pix!!
I wished they kept this bridge. I would loved to drive on it on the way to St. Louis.
Following up on the first Pic of the Week honoring James Baughn, here's an article on two truss designs that feature an A-frame in the center panel, but were built using recycled materials. Have a look at the Lane and Miller-Borcherding Trusses: https://bridgehunterschronicles.wordpress.com/2021/01/06/tru... Enjoy! :-)
Older maps indicate there was a bridge here before 1904 when construction of the newer bridge started. County and state records indicate it was replaced due to cast iron structural deficiencies that were used in the original bridge construction and failure rate of other bridges caused its replacement before catastrophic failure.
Bridge is still there but has been filled underneath with earth. Had my first cigarette under this bridge in 1994. Simple culvert for drainage now. I'm sure at next paving this bridge will disappear.
So recently found plot maps from 1932 that show the parkway was indeed split at this spot with this being the northbound side of the parkway. The current path of the two lane parkway was the south bound side only. Bridge is still intact and used now as part of the citys frisbee golf course.
It definitely isn't.
This appears to be the bridge at Atchison. My grandfather has pictures as a kid next to the current bridge in 1945. It hasn't been painted for probably 40 years and it was rusty in the pics with him as a kid.
Is BNSF expanding underneath this and the through truss? It seems odd that they removed both trusses in one year. I'm hoping thats not a bad sign for the other overpasses further east..
Love the photos!
Not an easy one to get to, on either side, but nothing illegal to get to photos, train showed up naturally after 3/4 long walk back to car
Dig the cruciform outriggers also, no plaques either end
Very fun visit today. Met Lloyd, the property owner who allowed me to photograph bridge, and shared his great old photo of the bridge possibly from 100-120 years ago, thank ya, Lloyd, great piece of history, and heck of an protective watch dog you have there protecting her!
I believe this was one of James's favorites... Perhaps a consideration for memorializing him here!
My great grand father Arvin Kelly was part owner of Kelly and Underwood.
My great grand father was part owner of Kelly and Underwood. His name was Arvin Kelly.
Wrought Iron Bridge Company ca. 1880's. Check pic# 8 of this one...
Milwaukee Bridge Works possibly? Some similar elements