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Grosse Point Yacht Club Footbridge

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Grosse Point Yacht Club Footbridge

Photo taken by Douglas Butler in September 2015

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Overview
Steel stringer bridge over Lake St Clair on Pedestrian Walkway Lake Front Park
Location
Wayne County, Michigan
Status
Open to pedestrians only
Design
Steel stringer double drawbridge
Also called
East Wall Dock Bridge
Approximate latitude, longitude
+42.43432, -82.87083   (decimal degrees)
42°26'04" N, 82°52'15" W   (degrees°minutes'seconds")
Approximate UTM coordinates
17/346117/4699695 (zone/easting/northing)
Quadrangle map:
Grosse Pointe OE E
Inventory number
BH 69035 (Bridgehunter.com ID)

Update Log 

  • September 3, 2015: Updated by Luke: GPS fix based on link and name change
  • September 2, 2015: Added by Douglas Butler

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Comments 

Grosse Point Yacht Club Footbridge
Posted September 9, 2015, by Royce Haley (roycehaley111 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

If you don't believe enough in your words to put your name on them. Why should anyone else care.

Royce

Grosse Point Yacht Club Footbridge
Posted September 8, 2015, by Matt Lohry

Dude, it's a joke. Lighten up. And use your name.

Grosse Point Yacht Club Footbridge
Posted September 7, 2015, by Another Former User

Chris, you're just wasting your time trying to reason with the clowns who cause problems. They're not gurus by any means. A few appear to work for highway agencies, engineering firms or related fields, and the rest are photographers and guys who consider bridges a hobby.

Nothing wrong with that, except that a small clique of the wanna-be's start acting like their interests are the only ones worthy of being included, and then they antagonize other people's work that doesn't fit their own personal taste. Then they flood the Forum with nasty comments for days, such as someone would ASS-U-ME you're talking about people who've been dead for decades when clearly you're not.

The site master has chosen to not intervene for some reason, and that's his right to do so. So, as you correctly stated, a lot of users have had enough and left, taking all of their work with them. Mr. Gehman's bridges were excellent, along with those of other guys who left.

Compare the list of contributors, with the list of updates for the last few months. The number of regular active users has dropped by a couple hundred. This has gone on for a long time, but unfortunately it's allowed to continue every few months when the nonsense flares up again.

Grosse Point Yacht Club Footbridge
Posted September 7, 2015, by Matt Lohry

The Masters of the Bridge Universe...I assume you mean those such as Conde B. McCollough, John Roebling, A.Y. Bayne, Caleb & Thomas Pratt...they're silent because they're all dead.

Grosse Point Yacht Club Footbridge
Posted September 5, 2015, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This has been a good discussion. Before I edit another contributor's entry, I like to ask myself whether or not my edit is objective or subjective.

Objective corrections might include changing bridge type from Parker truss to Pennsylvania truss, or perhaps Phoenix columns to Keystone columns. In other words, objective edits would be based on facts, not on opinions, theories, or speculations.

Subjective edits include editing the popular name, or adding information based on speculation. This could include adding a category "U.S. 40" because I think that the bridge might have carried an old alignment of the highway. It could also included changing the name from "4th Street Bridge" to "Joe Schmoe Memorial Bridge". Finally subjective edits migh be based on opinion, such as adding the category, "Modern" to a truss bridge that was built in 1964. "Modern" might mean post 1970 to one person and post WWII to another.

I will often make objective edits, but I tend to leave the subjective edits to the original contributor or to locals. For example, I would defer to the Oregon folks on the issue of a proper name for a bridge in Portland.

Just my $0.02

Grosse Point Yacht Club Footbridge
Posted September 4, 2015, by Chester Gehman (gehmanc2000 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

The comments by Chris Cates are right on the money. After having my entries edited ad infinitum, I also gave up on the site and removed my photos--like Chris, photos of bridges that no longer exist, even though I don't know an eyebar from a Phoenix column. Oddly enough, I find the sister site, Landmark Hunters, much more laid back and less fanatical. Some of the ranting on the BH forum is entertaining, though.

Grosse Point Yacht Club Footbridge
Posted September 4, 2015, by Chris Cates (chriscates1 [at] hotmail [dot] com)

This is exactly the reason I do not contribute to this site anymore. I enjoy going out and looking for old bridges and other infrastructure...that's it. While I'm sure the bridges I've posted are "beneath the concern" of the handful of bridge gurus on this site, I really didn't care at first, but this is getting old. All the guy did was ask for help on locating a bridge in the Detroit area.

Speaking of the Detroit area, my grandfather moved to Detroit after World War II and would frequently take trips out in the country to Macomb County. Back then, places like Rochester, Utica and Romeo were nothing; just little towns that the railroad occasionally passed through, and horse country (in fact, up until the late 90's there were still some old stables located in Rochester, near the big blue water tower and Grand Trunk off Avon Road, but those are gone now). My grandfather enjoyed bridges as well and would take photos of them when out in the country hunting. Bridges off Card Road while still in use, 27 Mile Road, Romeo Plank near the old dam, Waldenburg Road over the Clinton (which is 22 Mile Road), Runyon Road/Tienken (25 Mile Road), the original bridge at 23 Mile and Romeo Plank before the current 1950's one, etc. Most of the bridges are long gone and totally forgotten. Luckily, he wrote the date and road on the back of the photos. Most of the bridges aren't listed on this site and, judging by the photos, were ready to collapse at any moment. I could go on and on about undocumented bridges in Macomb County, but I won't, no need to. Like Bob Dylan said, "I'll keep it with mine.".

I posted some generic WPA bridges some time back, and a few railroad bridges as well, but all are in Texas. I was tempted to post the Macomb County bridge photos on this site, but, after reading how people are treated, I declined. We all cannot be "experts" on all things bridges and most of us just enjoy the search and taking photographs. What's sad is that the majority of the people on this site are just like me, they ENJOY bridges, they do not care or know about the engineering of bridge construction in 1903, they just want to see old bridges. While the passion for construction and design is great, it's the way it is presented that is the issue. While the need for editing is necessary to update a design or wrong coordinates, it gets out of hand when someone posts a bridge that, say, for 80 years carried the Katy, and they call it something like "Smith Bridge" because that's what the locals call it and have always called it. Then someone from Minnesota jumps in and states that it is a light commuter line for the past three years and deletes the old reference and name. The nit-picking of entries is getting very, very old; and I think the site is missing out on some great old information and photos because of it. Too many people are fed up.

Grosse Point Yacht Club Footbridge
Posted September 3, 2015, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

I would also add that in the context of Michigan's rich and diverse collection of historic movable bridges including some first or only surviving of a couple types... this little modern non-historic bridge should be beneath the concern of any bridge enthusiast who visits Michigan.

Lake St. Clair Drawbridge
Posted September 3, 2015, by Matt Lohry

Doug,

Although this is a drawbridge, it is not a bascule...take a look at the aerial view, which gives a very good, close "birds eye" view; this is more of a retractable type than anything. The moveable center spans slide over the outer spans to create an opening. Bascules have leaves that rotate upward to open.

Lake St. Clair Drawbridge
Posted September 2, 2015, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Well, its certainly not where you have it mapped, you for some reason have a demolished stringer bridge mapped http://historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=mi...

The bridge you have described is modern and has no heritage significance so I don't have any information on it, but if you actually read the article you linked to it clearly says its in Grosse Pointe Marina on Lake St. Clair. I would assume Grosse Pointe Marina is located in Grosse Pointe, which is in Wayne County, not St. Clair County. A simple google search should confirm all this.