If the State of Maine spent the money and Maintained the existing bridges, instead of letting them rust and fall apart, then they would not have to replace so many. As a tax payer, I'm a VERY dissatisfied customer!
Great to see! We need more groups like this out there!!
The people are not accepting MDOT's recommendation for replacement. In fact, they're up in arms in a legal sense. Have a look at the interview with Mr. Graham to find out more: http://thebridgehunter.areavoices.com/2017/07/12/locals-figh...
Drone video, June, 2017
This one MAY be hand operated............
Imagine that... An historic bridge in Maine being replaced!
The news story here would be if they were actually saving one!
This bridge is being replaced. New bridge will be just down steam of current one. Almost where the original bridge sat.
This bridge is being replaced. New bridge will be just down steam of current one. Almost where the original bridge sat.
Google earth shows a replacement span being built just downstream from this truss bridge, so if its not gone it will be soon.
It a shame that this bridge was located in a state so hostile to truss bridges. At just under 1,000 feet with 5 spans this was an increasingly rare example of a long multi-span truss bridge.
Looking at the finals, portal cresting, and builder plaque style this is a Berlin Iron Bridge Co. product. Given the truss style and details I would put fabrication for this bridge around 1895-1900.
I daresay this bridge and the bridge next to it are both doomed--GE satellite imagery shows a new alignment with new bridges being built right next to these.
I'm OK reworking things but Congress Street looks like a concrete arch with a stone finish and the old abutments don't appear visible based on the aerial/satellite views.
How confident are you in your statement?
Your location is wrong. This is the Congress Street bridge crossing the Stroudwater River in Portland. The stonework is still there, even though the bridge was modernized in the late 1970s.
Looks Like this replaced
Good find on the builder Luke, I was curious about this one! Its a pretty remote one for Massillon as well.
"Oldest wooden bridge in Maine Jay ME 15"
Probably long gone. What a shame.
Wasn't sure where this was! 1915 Postcard
Yet another nice find, Dana!
Technically a three-fer, as there's a pony truss to the north of this one, and there used to be a through truss over the northern portion.
Until the 1950's there was only one physical rover crossing in Augusta. The Carleton bridge is located in Bath, down river, and is out of use to vehicular traffic but remained open to rail traffic. There were /are not moving bridges in Augusta.
Photo #15 is not the West Buxton Bridge, it is the old Bar Mills bridge before it was rebuilt in 2016
Bridge was in use through 1980, at least. Grand Trunk equipment was removed by using MEC tracks down Commercial Street following the fire.
Note: this bridge is in Sagadahoc County, not Cumberland.
There is an article about this bridge at this site. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dow_v_Black
Bridges were commonly named after a nearby landowner. I can't say for certain that this is the case here, but it might be worth checking.
When i was little,people called this Blacks Bridge,do you know where that name came from?
According to the local Independent Reporter newspaper, this bridge has been rebuilt 4 times in its history. The bridge pictured in the illustration is the third version which was badly damaged in the 1936 flood. The Public Works Administration supplied $1,000 in rebuilding it with the addition of the concrete abutments. The first bridge cost $500, according to Willard Eaton, who was in charge of the bridge built in 1901 which cost between $700 and $800.
1. Its not a metal truss bridge. Wood and stone have a better standing as 'historic' amongst the general public.
2. Based on my previous post, the anti-preservationists are getting fired up...
Letter to the editor: Stackpole Bridge project raises questions about oversight, more in Saco
A bond was approved in November 2014 for $990,000 to repair Saco’s Stackpole Bridge. The lowest bidder was Chesterfield Associates ($839,500); CPM was the fourth highest bidder ($1.19 million). The City Council awarded the contract to the latter, the preferred contractor of Friends of Stackpole Bridge.
Central to the project was restoration to the bridge’s historic significance. Subsequent to the award and several design modifications, it was determined that an additional $370,000 was required to fix the bridge. These funds were approved by the council last Dec. 21.
Since last fall, changes have been made to the design. Progress reports were not offered until a Saco resident publicly requested an update in May. In June, the request for information was pursued.
Mayor Roland Michaud acknowledged the city received a letter from the Maine Historic Preservation Commission stating that the bridge wouldn’t be recognized for its historic significance. The process leading up to this disclosure has not been made transparent by the city.
Despite the design changes, not to mention the costs associated, the selected contractor cannot deliver on the principal objective: to reconstruct the historic structure.
Where is the oversight? Was the historic goal realistic in light of the funds approved at referendum? Should the low bidder have been passed over or given an opportunity to submit alternatives with the additional funds afforded the current bidder?
Was allocating additional sums in keeping with the referendum’s intent? Has the city been placed in a position of losing state funding? Who authorized the various project changes?
What role has Friends of Stackpole Bridge played in the process? What legal advice has been sought or given? Where is the Saco City Council leadership?
Again, where is the oversight?
As concerned citizens, we believe that our local government needs to be more transparent and attentive to the management of the public coffers.
chairperson, Saco Citizens for Sensible Government
Just one of many stories on the internet about this bridge and the "Bomber" Werner Horn. You have to read down a ways to get to the bridge.
We do have a growing group of people fighting to save this bridge. Please like us on Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/FrankJWoodBridge/
We are actively looking for examples of similar age bridges still in use in other states to use in the 106 process as examples of other states investing in their historical bridges. This bridge has a long future if we can get our voice heard and we intend to!
Tony... you mean this stamp, right?
Unfortunately, Maine seems to have a "Rubber stamp" approach when it comes to historic bridges.
Maine DOT recommends demolishing it.
Its so unbelievable I may have to wait to see it to believe it, but it appears that Maine may PRESERVE A HISTORIC BRIDGE!!! Amazing! I got word they just had a meeting and that all hurdles have been cleared and it will be restored. Here is an article hinting at this from a few months ago.
Unfortunately Maine is quite good at that Bruce!
Went to find a steel grate bridge this weekend only to find this bridge has been replaced
Bridge is gone.
Satellite views show that the bridge has been replaced.
The bridge is gone.
Perhaps with your club's permission some of the pictures on your club's site could be posted on this page. It is nice to show old bridges that have been saved through the efforts of community.
FYI, if I am reading it correctly, you have designated this bridge as "owned by the state" and "pedestrian traffic only". This Bridge is owned by Brookfield Renewable Energy, as is the Hydro Station beneath it. Prior to that it was owned by FPL (Florida Power and Light)Energy, and prior to that it was owned by CMP (Central Maine Power). Prior to that it was owned by Maine Central Railroad. While it is closed to unauthorized on-road type traffic, it is used daily as a recreational multi-use bridge. Depending on the season, you may encounter pedestrians, Snowmobilers, ATVs, Equestrians, Bicyclists, Joggers, even full sized service vehicles servicing the hydro station. It was rehabilitated in 2008 during a project undertaken by the Moose Alley Riders ATV Club at a cost of $160,000 and paid for - partially - by the Federal Recreational Trails Program (RTP). It was stripped to the iron superstructure, and a complete new solid deck was built, complete with a horse and snowmobile friendly rubber covering. Thought you might want to know.
MaineDOT is "deciding" whether to repair or replace this bridge while also claimed (which is a pile of nonsense) that "The truss is well past its design life and needs replacing"
Given that MaineDOT treats metal truss bridges like disease infested cockroaches... it isn't too hard to imagine an outcome here.
This bridge is closed.
This bridge is open.
Here is a photo, courtesy of Maine Memory Network and Pejepscot Historical Society.
This bridge is gone.
Why hasn't the M.V. Blue Nose been re-named the C.N. - Blue Nose yet?
Did the mystery busiest editor really take a night off?
It's Maine; kiss it goodbye.
Rail traffic has not been over this bridge in a while.
Replacement is open now. Bridge being demolished.
The text was copied from the main HAER entry (and that text remains on the HAER page). I am neither responsible for HAER or the description on BridgeHunter, but I did just use my editing privilege to remove the phrase.
On a side note, visit this bridge while you can. MaineDOT likely wants to demolish it... just like the last metal belidor bascule in the country and the last pin connected highway truss in the state.
About a year ago I suggested deleting this phrase
aside from John A. Roebling's Delaware Aqueduct
It has been inappropriate for a long time. The phrase apparently came from a very old HAER-HABS summary. It is no a longer part of the HAER summary.
Research continuing but a picture in the article Shows the prior bridge; a lenticular truss!
You say the trestles burned in 1984, actually it was the motor/gear house in the middle of the bridge at it's swingpoint that was burned by arsonists. The trestles have rotted away quite nicely on their own. Thanks for posting the photo. John
I received notification that the lower deck demolition is completed. On HistoricBridges.org I have a special status identifier "L" to indicate a bridge that isn't totally demolished, but has experienced loss of the critical elements of historic significance. A similar status identifier should be considered here... since this is no longer a unique bridge that is one-of-a-kind, but is now just a regular riveted RR through truss... still a historic structure, but about as far from unique as its possible to be.
There goes the deck!
Nice to see mainers finally take a stand and try to save a bridge.
The ridiculous plan to demolish a riveted truss bridge to make way for a MOB has come to reality. As icing on the cake, the entire truss span was picked in one piece with a crane. This would have been EXACTLY what you would do to restore the bridge and its just disgusting to see the bridge sitting on the ground and knowing that it could be restored and reused but instead tax dollars will be used to scrap it out and put in a MOB. What a waste. Typical for Maine. http://www.keepmecurrent.com/news_now/making-way-for-a-new-b...
Click "Portal View" twice. It takes you to a different street view if you don't...
I'll keep it on, for the sake of Maine.
Well - it's in Maine. They seem to have destroyed all their historic truss bridges, so maybe we need to leave this so there is at least one truss bridge that isn't categorized as "lost"...
Or maybe not.
The bridge's main span was taken downriver during The Great flood/ice jam of 1936. According to the Brunswick Record (Now called The Times Record) said under the photo that it "wasn't likely" that they would rebuilt it.
Now, 78 years later, it's getting replaced. *chuckles a little*
The bridge partially collapsed in 1936 during a flood/ice jam. A train with cars full of sand was on it at the time, trying to keep the bridge from capzing. The train still sits at the bottom of the bridge in the river, and it has never been retrived. Now boats going under the bridge have to go very slowly. Some people see the smokestack of the train, but they just scratch their heads, shrug their shoulders, and countinue with their fishing.
Shall I take it off?
You can take one look at this bridge and tell right off the bat that this is a common pre-fab MOB with no historic or notable value whatsoever.
Here's the painting by Claude Monet, actually called "White Water Lilies". See the resemblance?
BTW I know it's not the real bridge from "Water Lilies". I'm just saying it looks like it very much.
NBI states 1973 as a build date.
*in south windham
There is a railroad overpass over Mallison falls road/Mallison st. Looks old.
this bridge is now doomed.
A case of a good MOB. I swear, if they knock this down....
This bridge is sometimes seen in the background of DOWN EAST DICKERING. Watch and you're sure to get a glimpse.
A tiny ped. pony truss is next door. Can you please add it?
C'mon Luke... That was just a bit of editorial dramatization!
"After removal, the vehicle bridge structure will be completely gone and just the train trestle will remain."
Removal ≠ blown up.
BREAKING NEWS! THE BLACK BRIDGE IS TO BE BLOWN UP!
"A bridge-like structure"?...
So, I guess if they don't consider this to be a bridge then they don't have to worry about demolishing an historic one.
Not that they seem to worry about such things anyway...
Maine be like MMMM...Through Truss Bridges.....
I'm bug-eyed right now. I lOVE this bridge. Sue Lepage.
Maine is ridiculous! First they demolish the last remaining pin-connected highway truss in the entire state. Now they are going to demolish this historic riveted truss bridge that could easily be restored for pedestrian use... and replace it with with a pedestrian MOB! What a waste!
I believe the Dock Road bridge was constructed by Reed & Reed. My grandfather, John Brace, worked for Reed & Reed for many years and actually lived on Dock Road (now 140 Dock Road). We all called it the "green bridge" and my brother and the Jones boys used to jump off the bridge into the river. I have many fond memories of the time I spent in Alna, Maine as a child in the 50s and 60s. It was a wonderful place to grow up in.
Betty-Lou Murray Quigley
So when Maine says "rehabilitated", it really means "replaced", obviously...no Warren truss to be found here; only a plain steel stringer with really ugly Armco railings. Sheesh...
As requested, I added an entry for this bridge which was discovered and photographed by HistoricBridges.org. Feel free to add any photos you might have of the bridge here. My photo-documentation of the bridge remains on HistoricBridges.org, please view the page for more information: www.historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=maine...
Close by, there is a wooden girder. Not sure if it's all wood, but we should add it.
The floodwaters are getting really close to send this bridge to its watery grave. Only about 5 FT. from the road deck! Fingers crossed.
I visited the bridge today. The plaque says, "Built by Pennsylvania Steel Company, somthingtown, PA, 1909"
P.S. Brian, Can you get a photo of the plaque please? Thanx.
Plaque on bridge states 1876.
The statement made on the first comment about the daily traffic is, in my opinion, grossly understated. The traffic coming and going to BIW daily would place the number of cars crossing the bridge closer to forty or fifty besides the regular citizen traffic. I live in what is known as Topsham Heights and my doctor, grocery store, church, close friends and relatives are all readily accessible by the Black Bridge. Since its closure, I have to circle around to the Green Bridge which adds miles and gas consumption weekly. The cost of repair, a little over a million dollars is a mere pittance compared to most DOT jobs. The majority of the citizenry in the area would like to see the bridge repaired and put to good use. The fact that it is a historic bridge should also prevent the destruction of it.
pardon moi about the idiots in the background in the video.
There is now not a SINGLE surviving pin-connected highway truss bridge in the entire state of Maine! Shameful!
Gone! Brought down yesterday, Feb 27th. Good article in both The Daily Bulldog and The Morning Sentinel. Watched it go, rather sad.
Pedestrian bridge nearby. looks new,but was renovated in 2012.
Oh,also it's on a rail-trail,if that is any help.