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Posted August 2, 2019, by JC Dees (kd4ygg [at] gmail [dot] com)

Should be Livingston County / Lyon County border line for location

Posted July 13, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Well between the 3 options we should have it handled ! Thanks Don !

Posted July 13, 2019, by Don Morrison

Since more options is always a good thing, the unincorporated "blink-and-you-missed-it" village of Schley, Iowa, is pronounced with a long i as in "high".

*Sigh* ...

Posted July 13, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

I changed the name. I agree with the pronunciation ending in Lay not Lee

Posted July 13, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Hmmmm... I would guess it might be pronounced "SCHLAY"...or "SCHLEE" maybe. You might consider changing it to the primary name and see if any comments pop up on the forum.

Posted July 13, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Tony, any thoughts on the name of this bridge ?

Posted June 26, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony!

Posted June 26, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

It's a lot to read but an interesting history.

Posted June 16, 2019, by Earl B Shelton (ebshelton [at] triad [dot] rr [dot] com)

I HAVE A LARGE FRAMED PICTURE OF TRAIN AND BRIDGE LIKE SHOWN ON THIS WEBSITE, IS THERE ANY VALUE TO IT? I HAVE HAD IT SINCE THE NINETEEN SIXTIES.

Posted June 6, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Beautiful arches! I've seen a lot worse still open to traffic!

Posted June 6, 2019, by Jim Lueken (lueken [at] bellsouth [dot] net)

A pedestrian and bike path project to connect neighborhoods to a park system is considering re-purposing this bridge if it is reparable. Go to this site https://louisvilleky.gov/government/louisville-loop/louisvil... And click on the Middletown Eastwood (MET) link for the bridge study results.

Posted May 7, 2019, by Jeff Shroyer (Shroyer100 [at] aol [dot] com)

Pin connected.

Posted May 7, 2019, by Jeff Shroyer (Shroyer100 [at] aol [dot] com)

Pin connected.

Posted April 23, 2019, by Jim Lueken (lueken [at] bellsouth [dot] net)

Big plans to renovate this bridge. See State highway department link.

http://shermanmintonrenewal.com/

Posted April 22, 2019, by Brian F Lockett (catbus420 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This bridge would've been a bit west (left) of where you have it on the map. It was where Routt Rd (KY-1531 and KY-2265) crossed Floyd's Fork. The "new" Taylorsville Lake Road (KY-155) bridge is about half-way between where Routt Road and Taylorsville Road used to cross the river.

These roads were realigned a bit in the early/mid-1980s to create an easier connection between Louisville and the recently formed Taylorsville Lake. The older route(s) were unimaginably curvy compared to the new route. Routt Road now crosses the river along with KY-155 at the newer bridge.

Posted April 10, 2019, by Jeff Shroyer (Shroyer100 [at] aol [dot] com)

View of this difficult-to-photograph abandoned bridge over the Kentucky R at Ford, KY.

Posted April 10, 2019, by Jeff Shroyer (Shroyer100 [at] aol [dot] com)

Various views of a fascinating setting!

Posted April 10, 2019, by Jeff Shroyer (Shroyer100 [at] aol [dot] com)

CSX camelback Warren with verticals; a fascinating setting with 2 different long through trusses over the Kentucky River at Ford, KY.

Posted April 10, 2019, by Jeff Shroyer (Shroyer100 [at] aol [dot] com)

CSX over Kentucky River at Ford, KY

Posted April 10, 2019, by Jeff Shroyer (Shroyer100 [at] aol [dot] com)

CSX camelback Warren with verticals; a fascinating setting with 2 different long through trusses over the Kentucky River at Ford, KY.

Posted March 3, 2019, by Julie Bowers (jbowerz1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I would call it an early King Iron Bridge Co. based on outriggers and top chord. Look at the connection from two lower bars to one going through the back of the shoes to a nut. On old Richardsville it was three bars to two with ears, no nut. Fits the patent.

Very rare. Interesting new abutments.

Posted March 2, 2019, by Melissa Jurgensen

Sorry, was told incorrectly. Bridge still stands, though deteriorating. I drove across it today. There is a similar one also nearby visible by Google Maps satellite. Unfortunately it's on private property and I couldn't get to it.

Posted March 1, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Yikes! Hope that's not going to be a recurring problem!!

If so I hope they have boat rentals... Not!

Posted March 1, 2019, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Well....... Didn't get to walk across it.

Posted February 28, 2019, by James McCray (jamesinslocomb [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This is the only bridge im glad they are replacing. Just put it out of its misery.

Posted February 28, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Their only purpose is to make historic bridge enthusiasts ill!

Posted February 28, 2019, by Luke

Reminds me of how Raiders in the Fallout games use corpses as interior design elements.

Link related https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/8cmi9y/thats_some_anal...

Posted February 28, 2019, by Daniel

I'd have just called it a girder/stringer bridge. I don't think the upper members have any purpose beyond guardrails.

Posted February 27, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

That's just wrong!!! UGGGGGHHHHH...

Posted February 27, 2019, by James McCray (jamesinslocomb [at] yahoo [dot] com)

All I have to say is that it was the 70's and there was a LOT of drugs.........

Posted February 27, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Awesome find James!

Posted February 26, 2019, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I can't really recall seeing such a draped bottom chord on any railroad through truss. I have to imagine if it was structural failure instead of design, this bridge would be immediately closed.

Posted February 26, 2019, by Daniel

I would expect the load rating would be done by calculating the loads in each member and connection (and abutment) for dead load and live load (live at each frame, although generally in the middle will result in the largest loads), and then looking at what each member can hold in it's current condition. Then, calculate the live load that the bridge can safely take based on that.

Calculating the loads is trivial from an engineering standpoint, but I imagine determining what each member and connection can take in it's deteriorated state is as much an art as a science.

Given the deck rating of "serious", it may be the deck that limits the safe load rather than the structural components that were designed for railroad use. Not that the "poor" rating on superstructure and substructure is much better...

I noticed that the bottom chord appears to be draped significantly, not something I'm used to seeing.

Posted February 26, 2019, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I'm not sure that the fact these are old railroad bridges was calculated into the load rating. Even in poor condition, a railroad bridge can hold a very large load. I have reached out to the KY SHPO about preserving these bridges in place, as the new bridges will be on a different alignment.

Posted February 26, 2019, by Daniel

Of course the image they use for the article shows a truck driver disregarding the weight limit. Even empty a dump truck like that is WELL over 3 tons - double that is about right. Many modern pickups weigh 3 tons empty.

Posted February 25, 2019, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)
Posted February 15, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Mike and Tony, agreed. I enjoy the discovery of an abandoned bridge. I also agree it was probably illegally dismantled for scrap.

Posted February 14, 2019, by Mike Daffron (daffmikron [at] gmail [dot] com)

I assume the scrappers got it. Pretty remote. Lotsa water too.

Posted February 14, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I wonder if a scrapper didn't get the Kelly Bridge as it had been closed forever and I doubt Sullivan County all of a sudden wanted it gone. Same could be true of Rider, although it hadn't been closed as long a scrapper did have the nerve to take part of a pony that was still open!

Posted February 14, 2019, by Mike Daffron (daffmikron [at] gmail [dot] com)

I agree, Tony. It's fun to try and find the abandoned bridge. It pisses me off when I go to a site, like Kelley in Sullivan and Rider Ditch in Jackson, and find a big gaping hole instead. If they were re-purposed, that would be one thing, but I seriously doubt of either of those two were. I would like to see the two Bedsteads on Cole Creek in Warrick Co find homes, but they are in such crappy shape doubt if they could be saved. Of course, I love the abandoned bridges in Owen, mainly because the powers that be are replacing all the functional ones. I understand Patricksburg Road bridge because of the heavy traffic, I just don't like it. Yes, I'm ranting a little. Sorry all!

Posted February 14, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Well, I don't like seeing any historic bridge replaced. But if a road is to be closed off then just leave the bridge standing as is. I have seen some pulled out of the weeds "10 years later" and given a new life in a park or on a trail. So at least it has a chance!

And at the end of the day I would rather see Mother Nature reclaim it than to see it go in a dumpster.

Posted February 14, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Why ???

Posted February 14, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Luke, anytime you have more, let me know. As always, I appreciate all Your help.

Posted February 14, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Mike, I really enjoy the historical information. Thank you!

Posted February 14, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

"Removed but not Replaced" is a category I LOATHE!!!

Posted February 14, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony ! I still need to work on naming lol

Posted February 14, 2019, by Luke

I concur, especially consider your gracious clipping/posting of ones I've found.

Posted February 14, 2019, by Mike Daffron (daffmikron [at] gmail [dot] com)

Melissa, I must say that I have been thoroughly enjoying your newspaper postings!! Yes, sometimes they are a little disheartening, but... Keep It Up!!

Posted February 13, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony!

Sketo Bridge (Kentucky)
Posted February 13, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony! #teamwork

Posted February 12, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Will do Luke

Posted February 12, 2019, by Luke

Melissa, make Photo #443549 the default instead of the sketch.

Posted February 12, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Me too Melissa! It sounds like they were set on building a new bridge, but the satellite imagery suggests that they not only abandoned this road but also part of Mill Bluff Road as well. The road to the East of the bridge site appears to still be accessible, but the road to the West has been plowed over. I looked at a few different satellite views but all had trees blocking the creek.

Posted February 11, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Ridiculous that this 25-car-a-day landmark was replaced!

Posted February 11, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony. I wondered about the road being Abandoned.

Posted February 11, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony!

Posted February 10, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Given it's remote... dead-end location the bridge might still be in existence if not for this occurrence!

Posted February 10, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Tony, the article stated "the driver made six trips across the bridge before it collapsed "...Wow.

Posted February 10, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony!

Alvey Bridge (Kentucky)
Posted February 10, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony!

Posted February 10, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

One of the more idiotic ones I have seen! I assume he was going to the 1 house on the other side of the bridge, but geeze... Have some common sense here!!!

Posted February 10, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony!

Posted February 9, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

The location on this is incorrect. I am adding the correct bridge at this location.

Posted February 8, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony!

Posted February 4, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Don, Thank you. I'd love to read it. I am one of the few without FB. I'll check it out soon on my mom's or my friend's account.

Posted February 3, 2019, by Don Morrison

Not much to add but a facebook page where some folks pondered on this bridge's remains in 2015.

https://www.facebook.com/Kentuckys.Covered.Bridges.Bakers.Do...

Posted February 3, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Melissa, my guess is that this bridge had been abandoned for a long time. Obviously when it fell no one was very concerned about it, so you might not find a news article relating to it.

Posted February 3, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

I've been searching for information on this Mystery but nothing so far

Posted February 2, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Driver error... Again!

This was a Phoenix Column span, looks like it was a Pratt.

Posted February 1, 2019, by Ian Gerard (ianagerard [at] gmail [dot] com)

I recently saw a claim by the Henderson Tourism Commission that G.W. Ferris, inventor of the Ferris Wheel, was the architect of the L&N bridge. I had previously read contradictory information, and was able to find a number of historical records confirming that the chief architect was actually F.W. Vaughan, although Ferris was his assistant.

Below are some of the excerpts I found that corroborate this.

Sources:

Henderson. Suzanne Summers Thurman. Published 2008. The Gleaner. https://books.google.com/books?id=ylhYOiblGlkC&lpg=PP1&pg=PA....

The Louisville and Nashville Railroad, 1850-1963. Kincaid A Herr. University Press of Kentucky.

https://books.google.com/books?id=jnaPZDIda_oC&pg=PA76&sourc...

Great Achievements - Notable Structural Engineers. Structure Magazine. https://www.structuremag.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/D-Gr...

Posted January 30, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony !

Posted January 30, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thank you Mom lol

Posted January 30, 2019, by Doris M Blair (dmblair59 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Another get photo group and article about a bridge from my husband's birth place. I thank Melissa for taking the time to research this.

Emma Bridge (Kentucky)
Posted January 29, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Daniel ! I knew the location was a bit off.

Posted January 27, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Jeff !

Posted January 26, 2019, by Jeff Wieland (jjwieland [at] gmail [dot] com)

Google Maps imagery shows that this bridge has been replaced.

Posted January 26, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

The photo of the bridge is Beautiful. I cannot imagine seeing it in person. I had to find more information about the bridge after seeing the amazing photos.

Posted January 25, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony!

Posted January 25, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Tony!

Posted January 25, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Let's hope for the best lol.

Posted January 25, 2019, by Daniel

Oops, meant to say that was a guess but when I remade my post (at first the URL didn't include the second part) I missed that.

That's right around 8 miles upriver and so it seems like the most likely place.

Posted January 25, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thanks Daniel !

Posted January 25, 2019, by Daniel
Posted January 19, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

I Love Justified. My stepfather is a retired miner/mine inspector from Harlan.

Posted January 19, 2019, by Mike Daffron (daffmikron [at] gmail [dot] com)

Cool stuff, Melissa. AND Harlan County is where "Justified" is set!

Posted January 19, 2019, by Doris M Blair (dmblair59 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Very interesting article and photos. My husband grew up in Harlan Co. Kentucky. Thanks for sharing this!

Posted January 19, 2019, by Ed Hollowell (erhollowell [at] aol [dot] com)

A quick check using Google Earth comes up with at least 500 feet.

Posted January 19, 2019, by Daniel

Wow. Quite a bridge.

I agree with the total length appearing significantly over 250'. I would have thought each of the spans was close to that. One of the article clippings states signs dictated 200' spacing between vehicles, which would be unusual on a 250' bridge (it would simply be one at a time then).

I also question the newspaper's claim of the truck weighing 1.5 tons. I could see it being a "1.5 ton truck" as in rated for 1.5 tons, but it's a reasonably heavy duty truck. I'd expect fully laden weight to be well over 6 tons but have no clue what was in it. Unladen would be significantly under 6 tons though, so I have no clue if it was overweight.

Posted January 18, 2019, by Anonymous

The two photos on the bottom are of the Colville Covered Bridge.

Twin Bridges (Kentucky)
Posted January 8, 2019, by James Baughn (webmaster [at] bridgehunter [dot] com)

Here's a twist: The 1932 bridge is actually in slightly better condition than the 1965 bridge according to the National Bridge Inventory data.

1932 bridge -- sufficiency rating 58.8:

http://bridgereports.com/1212713

1965 bridge -- sufficiency rating 49.2:

http://bridgereports.com/1212714

Twin Bridges (Kentucky)
Posted January 8, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

As a Tri-State resident I am thrilled to hear they want to save the historic bridge .

Twin Bridges (Kentucky)
Posted January 8, 2019, by Bob

The current plan being proposed is to tear down one of the twin bridges after the new I-69 bridge is built just upstream.

Amazingly they want to keep the 1932 bridge.

Posted January 5, 2019, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

For $2000 you can choose the lighting scheme for a night:

http://louisvillewaterfront.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/B...

Posted December 6, 2018, by David Simpson (foop1975 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Supposedly the bridge is going to be replaced in the near future.

Posted November 29, 2018, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Great to see... Wonder who was responsible for that?

Posted November 28, 2018, by Craig Waltrip (rcwaltrip [at] gmail [dot] com)

New floor

Posted November 22, 2018, by Ross Brown (bluehavanaross [at] gmail [dot] com)

Actually one of two in Prestonsburg. The other was known as the Town Branch Bridge and located at the south end of the city. It was closed in the 80's and replaced in the early 2000's. The more famous bridge (this one) was closed to vehicular traffic in 1979 and pedestrians in 2008. Good luck to the city in trying to fix this one. It almost looks too far gone to be saved.

Posted November 21, 2018, by Anonymous

The joints on this bridge are currently being replaced. A joint broke in April.

Posted November 14, 2018, by vhsbetamax

The bridge currently on KY 94 that goes over Clarks River was built in 1983 (according to inspection data). So, using this info and my comment below, we can infer that this bridge was relocated here in 1984.

Posted November 13, 2018, by vhsbetamax (garrettherndon24 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This bridge is locally called the "Rattling Bridge". In addition, a person on geocaching.com (there is a geocache on this bridge) says this about the bridge: "This is part of the original bridge that went across Highway 94. Then it had an old wooden bottom, so whenever cars traveled across it of course it made a rattling sound. When they built the new bridges on highway 94 they floated this one down Clarks River to where it now rest, and also replaced the old wooden bottom with a concrete bottom."