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Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge

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Photo taken by Nick Schmiedeler in April 2017

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BH Photo #385002

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Overview
Through truss bridge over Neosho River, 3.13 mi. north of K-39 N. Jct.
Location
Neosho County, Kansas
Status
Open to traffic
History
Built ca. 1930
Builders
- J.S. Vance & Son of Parsons, Kansas
- Pittsburgh-Des Moines Steel Co. of Des Moines, Iowa & Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Design
Pratt through truss
Dimensions
Length of largest span: 140.1 ft.
Total length: 654.7 ft.
Deck width: 23.9 ft.
Vertical clearance above deck: 15.3 ft.
Approximate latitude, longitude
+37.73041, -95.44210   (decimal degrees)
37°43'49" N, 95°26'32" W   (degrees°minutes'seconds")
Approximate UTM coordinates
15/284791/4178711 (zone/easting/northing)
Quadrangle map:
Chanute
Inventory numbers
KS 000000000670660 (Kansas local bridge number on the National Bridge Inventory)
BH 18296 (Bridgehunter.com ID)
Inspection (as of 08/2015)
Deck condition rating: Satisfactory (6 out of 9)
Superstructure condition rating: Fair (5 out of 9)
Substructure condition rating: Satisfactory (6 out of 9)
Appraisal: Functionally obsolete
Sufficiency rating: 20.4 (out of 100)
Average daily traffic (as of 2007)
2,633

Update Log 

  • April 1, 2017: New photos from Nick Schmiedeler
  • January 30, 2017: New Street View added by Robert Elder
  • October 5, 2015: New Street View added by Robert Elder
  • December 19, 2013: Updated by Max : Added category "US 169"
  • March 17, 2010: Updated by Robert Elder: Added GPS Coordinates

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Comments 

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted April 1, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I will delete this comment tomorrow...

But this is one of the few historic bridges in Kansas, along with the John Mack Bridge in Wichita, that exceeds 100 Smoots in length. Most of our bridges are much smaller spans that get little media attention.

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted April 1, 2017, by Nick Schmiedeler

Love this monster.

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted February 2, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Nathan:

Thanks for the reply. I will update this page to reflect the information that you have discovered concerning this bridge. I will also edit the KHRI page to reflect the fact that this is a state-standard plan. If I recall correctly, this bridge was not considered NRHP eligible in the 1980s, but I would think that it would qualify now, given the fact that many state-standard plan bridges have been demolished in recent years.

Considering Kansas specifically, I would agree that there were far fewer state-standard trusses built in Kansas compared with Missouri and other states. One reason of course was the aforementioned Marsh arches, and also the fact that unlike Missouri and Pennsylvania, Kansas did not (typically at least) continue to build truss bridges into the 1950s.

That being said, in the 1980s, there were a few other state-standard trusses still in existence. Most of these bridges were located on major highways and were demolished likely due to the high volume of traffic that they had to carry.

There are a few remaining trusses in Kansas which might be state-standard. I need to research them further. Here is a small sample:

http://bridgehunter.com/ks/jefferson/440001/

http://bridgehunter.com/ks/jefferson/perry/

http://bridgehunter.com/ks/butler/80853006006/

Note that the Whitewater River span has fence guardrails, which seem to have been a state-standard railing.

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted February 1, 2017, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Robert: I agree with that assessment, aside from convenience of location, that was one good reason for me to visit this bridge. I like to get at least one example of a highway department designed truss from each state I visit. Unlike 19th Century trusses where builder determined style, bridges from this area have styles and designs determined by state.

My photos and findings are now online. Feel free to integrate my builder info on Bridgehunter. http://historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=ka...

Note that this bridge also has rare Scullin Steel brands on it.

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted January 30, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This bridge is somewhat unusual for the region. Ironically, older, lightweight pin - connected trusses seem to be more common in this region than newer, more massive, riveted truss bridges such as this one.

In the 1920s and 1930s, (ie, the massive member truss era), a large number of Marsh arch bridges were built in this area. The use of Marsh arches likely cut into the number of massive member riveted trusses that would have been built in the area otherwise.

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted January 30, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Nathan:

It will be good to see the photos when you get them posted. I have done similar parking jobs on roads that were less busy.

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted January 30, 2017, by Nathan Holth (nathan [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

This bridge will (hopefully sometime this week) be added to HistoricBridges.org where you will be able to see all my photos. Here's a cropped photo showing where I parked the rental car. By Kansas standards, it is a busy road especially for one as narrow as it is, but I suspect the folks "out east" like in Pennsylvania won't see anything unusually difficult about the parking conditions.

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted January 30, 2017, by Anonymous

Isn't that why we have emergency flashers? :)

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted October 5, 2015, by Robert Elder

Well, you know the difference between a Jeep and a rental car? A rental car can go anywhere 😄

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted October 5, 2015, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

That's what a rental car with a loss damage waiver is for :)

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted October 5, 2015, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I still have not gotten photographs of this bridge for lack of a safe place to pull off. Thankfully, the Google Streetview Car has made a recent crossing.

Old US-169 Neosho River Bridge
Posted December 20, 2013, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Thanks for updating this page. Although this is a newer truss bridge (ca. 1930), it is a rather interesting structure because it consists of through and pony spans. I would not be surprised if this one gets demolished in a few years as it does carry a surprising amount of traffic for a bypassed bridge.

Neosho River Bridge
Posted March 26, 2010, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

KSHS Link with photo: http://khri.kansasgis.org/index.cfm?tab=details&in=133-0000-...

I have driven over this bridge many times, but have not photographed it. Unfortunately, there is no safe place to pull off the highway.