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Bull Creek Bridge

Photos 

Photo taken by Nick Schmiedeler in October 2016

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BH Photo #368914

Map 

Description 

This bridge is on private property. As a courtesy to the landowner, please do not visit without permission. Landowner information will not be disseminated through this website.

Facts 

Overview
Abandoned through truss bridge over Bull Creek on Harmony Road (Abandoned)
Location
Miami County, Kansas
Status
Derelict/abandoned
Design
Through truss
Approximate latitude, longitude
+38.63677, -94.88592   (decimal degrees)
38°38'12" N, 94°53'09" W   (degrees°minutes'seconds")
Approximate UTM coordinates
15/335856/4278157 (zone/easting/northing)
Quadrangle map:
Antioch
Inventory number
BH 72851 (Bridgehunter.com ID)

Categories 

Abandoned (3,049)
Kansas (2,728)
Miami County, Kansas (80)
Through truss (12,948)
Truss (29,543)

Update Log 

  • October 30, 2016: New photos from Nick Schmiedeler
  • July 21, 2016: Added by Robert Elder

Sources 

  • Robert Elder - robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com
  • Nick Schmiedeler - nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com

Comments 

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted December 10, 2016, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

It looks like the windshield is curved so a super beetle. Hardtops were in the US from 1971 through '79. The last in were convertibles. Usual cause of death is rust or front end structural damage. Bullet holes are probably post mortem. It's repairable....

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted December 9, 2016, by Anonymous

Saw this on Ammann site does make one wonder what the history of that volkwagen is...............

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted November 22, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Nathan:

Thanks for the input. I have not had a chance to visit this one yet.

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted November 22, 2016, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Basically what we have here is a compression-style member used for a tension bottom chord, which in a pin-connected truss is unusual. Fmiser is right, its not remarkable to see a built-up lower chord, but Robert is also right that its unusual in the context of a pin-connected truss. However, I will add a third point that aside from the unusual member choice the detail Robert describes... the built-up beam attached to a plate that in turn attached to the pin is not unusual... most vertical members on pin-connected trusses have the same design. The plate that links pin to built-up beam is called the "pin plate."

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted November 22, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Also, it is good to have you back as a contributor. I was wondering where you went!

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted November 22, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

That makes sense. This one just has those strange hybrid connections. The bottom chords are riveted to the gusset plates, but the plates are then pinned to the verticals. Seems a bit unconventional to me.

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted November 22, 2016, by Fmiser (fmiser [at] gmail [dot] com)

Robert, from what I've seen, a built-up bottom chord is not that rare. And I usually see it on later, riveted bridges. The earlier pin-connected are more likely to have eye-bars.

A few example, from memory and not really looking (much...)

http://bridgehunter.com/mn/goodhue/5750/

mn/goodhue/2624/

http://bridgehunter.com/il/fulton/29310807162/

http://bridgehunter.com/il/sangamon/84316118634/

il/sangamon/84318718661/

Some of those are not pin-connected, and some are not V-laced, but just use a batten. But all use a lower chord built-up from angle, not C-channel.

So I find it odd to see it on a bridge that old.

Nick, do you have any more photos? Maybe some detail views of the joint, etc?

Grrrr. I was just notified I can only put three URLs in a post. So I trimmed the domain off of a few of them. If you want to see the all, copy/paste the line to replace the part after ".com/".

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted November 22, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This bridge has some of the most bizarre bottom chord connections I have ever seen in a post 1900 bridge. The bottom chords are angles. They do not appear to connect directly to the verticals. Instead they are riveted to plates that are pinned to the verticals.

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted October 30, 2016, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I have seen some abutment upheaval in my days... But WOW!

No clue how this one is still standing!

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted October 30, 2016, by Nick Schmiedeler

Thanks, Clark

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted October 30, 2016, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

Generally called a gauging station or stream gauging station.

http://geology.com/articles/gaging-station.shtml

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted October 30, 2016, by Nick Schmiedeler

Property owner had a name for that depth measuring instrumentation box, can't recall what it was it has been vandalized recently, there a generic name for that thing?

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted October 30, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

That is an incredible story from a dark day in Kansas history.

This is a great find. It looks like a classic Kansas City Bridge Co. product. It appears to have ribbon-laced bottom chords. I am amazed that it is still standing given the crumbling abutment.

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted October 30, 2016, by Dana and Kay Klein

Running out of Superlatives! AWESOME

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted October 30, 2016, by Nick Schmiedeler

Permission from 85 y.o. south-side property owner for this gem. Told story that his 2nd great grandpa watched Quantrill march thru the property with MO men after sacking Lawrence in 1863. Wow!! Great, beautiful property, great bridge, nice gentleman.

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted July 21, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Anthony:

I have not been able to find this one on the KHRI database yet. Some Kansas bridge were abandoned and largely forgotten before the surveys were done in the 1980s.

I have done some rough math and have estimated that Miami County has approximately 1 truss bridge for every 26 square miles. No matter where you are in the county, you don't have to drive too far to see one. But, as you alluded to, that could change if nothing is done to save the abandoned ones.

I should also mention that numerous trusses were lost in the 1980s with the creation of the Hillsdale Reservoir. They may have been cut up for scrap, or they may have just been submerged.

Overall, Miami County has take great pride in their bridges. The Creamery Bridge in particular, is known for being a point of interest.

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted July 21, 2016, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Is there a KSHS page for this one Robert? At first glace it appears to be shorter like a pony truss...but the foliage plays tricks on the eyes and so it is hard to tell. Bing imagery offers nothing but lots of Green leaves. I don't know why these satellite people can't be sensitive to us Bridgehunters and only record these views during times of "Leaflessness"!!!

On a serious note... Miami County, Kansas has an incredible collection of historic bridges which is probably the best in the state! (Robert can confirm or refute this). Although they have replaced some ponies (The Baltimore was a major blow!), they have left a bunch of through trusses standing. With all of these, the amazing Asylum Bridge, and the two triple Marsh arches it is quite the catalog of historic spans! They need a group in this county to spearhead trying to do what is needed to further preserve these structures before Mother Nature reclaims them...

http://bridgehunter.com/ks/miami/611091104965/

This span will be doomed to extinction if action isn't soon taken. I know this is often easier said than done, but actions start with words and if nothing is ever said...then nothing is ever done.

Bull Creek Bridge
Posted July 21, 2016, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I can't seem to find this one in the NBI. It is visible on aerial imagery from 1947 when it was in use, and it reappears on aerial imagery taken in March 2015 and March 2016. I don't want to speculate too much, but I would not be surprised if this is a Pratt through truss built by the Kansas City Bridge Co.