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Posted October 18, 2019, by Tom Sevart (n2uhc [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Here's a picture I took of this bridge in 2018 with the dam below.

Posted October 16, 2019, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

Video update on the trail project with drone video and renderings of the proposed eating area.

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/destination-bridge-over...

Earlier story:

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/missouri-kansas-coming-...

Posted October 16, 2019, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Yes - it reminds me of my personal favorite Pratt Truss over the Whitewater River...

Posted October 16, 2019, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I know that the construction dates on this bridge and the Lakewood Park/Middle School Bridge do not line up - but could this be a clerical error?

Posted October 16, 2019, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Going out on a limb here...

Could this be the same bridge that got relocated to Lakewood Park and then relocated again to Lakewood Middle School? Now, I know that the Lakewood Park/Middle School Bridge is not skewed...

...but could a skewed truss be made non-skewed? This might explain why the portal bracing on the Lakewood Park/Middle School Bridge is askew.

Posted October 16, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Wow! That pier looks like it could drop the bridge into the water at any moment!

Posted October 16, 2019, by Tom Sevart (n2uhc [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Wow, they really have cleared the trees & brush away from this bridge. It's been many years since I've been up there, I think it's due for another visit.

Posted October 16, 2019, by Tom Sevart (n2uhc [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This is the bridge my wife as a kid made up a story to tell her younger sisters of riding on a school bus which fell through the bridge.

Posted October 15, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

oh nice!!!

Posted October 14, 2019, by Luke

The NBI may say 1928, but several articles say a bridge west of Clay Center was washed out in the 1935 flood.

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/487803483/

I found an article from July 1936 saying it was opening, but haven't managed to find a contract letting yet.

Posted October 14, 2019, by Luke

Feel free to create an entry for it. According to https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/519798093/ Leavenworth Bridge Co. won a contract in 1904

Posted October 14, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

The image is for the Morganville Bridge

Posted October 13, 2019, by Luke
Posted October 13, 2019, by Luke

Image here: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/526521687/

Builder source is the same article for the Wakefield bridge lost in the 1935 Flood.

Posted October 13, 2019, by Luke

Builder appears in article here: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/12643654/

Posted October 13, 2019, by Luke
Posted October 13, 2019, by Luke

Found an article with builders for this one: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/486811626/

Posted October 13, 2019, by Luke

This popped up in my search for info on these bridges. https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/383827225/

Posted October 13, 2019, by Luke

Amendment to the previous comment: The bridge was likely built post 1935, as this still from a USGS report about a flood shows a two span Pratt:

Posted October 13, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Thank you guys! I told Melissa something looked off and I was actually trying to find one of those to compare with. Not a type I am very familiar with for sure!!

Posted October 13, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Oh I love the thought of it being inundated but I believe it was removed.

Posted October 13, 2019, by Anonymous

Okay, I guess the article mentioned that the bridge would be removed. Too bad. There are only two Kansas cantilevers left to the best of my knowledge. One in Kansas, and one in Nebraska.

Posted October 13, 2019, by Anonymous

The Republican River is large enough here that a Kansas cantilever would make sense. there used to be one a little farther downstream near Junction City. I drove across it a few times in the late 90s before it was replaced.

Posted October 13, 2019, by Luke

I concur that that's a Kansas Kantilever.

Posted October 13, 2019, by Anonymous

I suspect that this might have been a Kansas cantilever. there is even a remote chance that it might still be extant under the water.

Posted October 9, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I like these concrete fence railings. This one definitely needs some repairs but could be made to look really nice again!

Posted October 9, 2019, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This bridge is possibly eligible for the NRHP. It is a good example of an early 1920s concrete bridge. The NBI calls it a slab, but I suspect that it might be a tee-beam.

Posted October 9, 2019, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This bridge is still open to traffic, but there is a bypass in place for wide vehicles.

Posted October 9, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Nick, please tell me you bought the commemorative plate.

Posted October 8, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I did think about the Keystone plaque but they flaired out and were a little wider at the bottom than WIBCo ones.

Posted October 8, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

I've searched for an hour this morning. Most of the information is related to the relocation.

Posted October 8, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Although the "Prize" span was saved here, I too was thinking last night that it's a shame they didn't repurpose the little Pratt as well!

Posted October 8, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Not seeing anything to suggest Massillon here. I believe the 1910 date was just the usual bad Kansas default date. Although 4-panel thru's are uncommon they do exist.

Posted October 8, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Thank you Art !

Posted October 8, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Art, you're welcome. I definitely want more information on this one too

Posted October 8, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

BTW, I think you are right, but thought I’d double check.

Posted October 8, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Tony,

I have seen a bridge plaque with that shape with “Keystone” on it :^)

Given the 1900 build date, Are you basing the builder by the plaque shape or secondary evidence?

Regards,

Art S.

Posted October 8, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Thanks for the pic Melissa!

Glad they saved the bowstring. Too bad they scrapped the cute little Pratt. I wonder if we can find info on it.

Regards,

Art S.

Posted October 8, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Massillon? Doesn’t quite look like a King to me. Probably relocated and shortened in 1910. Would explain the date and 4 panel through config.

Regards,

Art S.

Posted October 5, 2019, by Aaron Hall (ahall [at] vitaphone [dot] net)

When this bridge was built in 1928, it carried K-24, which was re-designated K-16 when US 24 was extended into Kansas. In the 1960s or 1970s, that stretch of K-16 was short-cut, bypassing the bridge.

Posted October 4, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

I have uploaded the correct photos of Polecat Creek Bridge, the original featured photo is of the nearby Mulvane Bridge which is also impressive but you can refer to that listing in this same county to see it, I suggest that photo is deleted as to not cause confusion

Posted September 22, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

Thanks Tony! Thrill for wife and I.

Posted September 22, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

Both plaques in photos now. Shadows and overgrowth made for some tough photos - did our best....down to just 2 KS bridges now that I have been denied from seeing in past, will keep working on those also...absolutely no trace of

road coming off east side of bridge as as crops were planted decades ago

Posted September 22, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I just need to quit being so impatient!

Thanks again Nick... As always an awesome job!

Posted September 22, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Thanks Nick! Very cool! Did you happen to get any pics of the plaques?

Posted September 22, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Absolutely love it. Love anything "hidden"

Posted September 22, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

BAM!!!

Posted September 22, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

But Nick... Where's the pics??? ;-p

Posted September 22, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

....very nice gentleman put up his dogs as my wife and I approached down the previously locked up long-closed county road to the old 1903 Kansas City Bridge Company product, some unique features on this one, 2 partial plaques, so very happy to be privy to this unicorn I have tried to see up close for all these years. Recent flooding damaged under side even more than previous years. 90' long in total.

Posted September 22, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

How Exciting !!!

Posted September 22, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

Pretty excited about this one. Visited every September for the past several years en route to the annual Walnut Valley Festival in Winfield, KS, hoping to somehow catch a break and meet up with the property owner who kept this one under lock and key with several signs about attack dogs on sight. Finally this week was contacted by property owner,met up, found out he is a K9 unit officer with about a dozen very large shepherds on site ready to take anyone out.....

Posted September 19, 2019, by Anonymous

Selling motorcycle carburetors from a van down by the creek.

Posted September 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I was gonna say if it was anything to do with Bing maps then it was likely sabotage on Google's part.

Posted September 18, 2019, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

FWIW, Bing made the carbs on BMW bikes.

https://bingcarburetor.com/index.html

Posted September 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

It's also interesting how Bing Agency International has their offices on the bridge. ;-p

Posted September 18, 2019, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

Bridge in the satellite view doesn't match the photos.

Posted September 18, 2019, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

Looks like the same photos as:

http://bridgehunter.com/ks/morris/bh86711/

Posted September 4, 2019, by Greg Albers (gjalbers777 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Photos 70 and 71 appear to be of the St. Joseph swing bridge further up river. Note the double decked I-229 bridge in the background and the permanent pier in the middle of the river, as the St. Joseph bridge is usually kept in the open position.

Posted September 3, 2019, by Rodney O'Neil (rodneyoneil [at] ymail [dot] com)

I painted Lionel on this bridge when I was about seventeen. I think it was in 1968 as I was a freshman at Southwestern College. There are rungs leading to the spot I chose. I climbed up there three times (It's a long way above the river) First to measure where I planned to put the lettering. A friend helped me make stencils out of cardboard so I could spray paint the letters. The second night was windy and I wasn't satisfied with the results. So I went back up to paint over the first attempt and redo the job. About a month later It made the front page of the Winfield Daily Courier. You could see Lionel on it for years. I still think of those trips up that bridge every time I drive past it.

Posted August 25, 2019, by Ron Reber

When the new bridge was built tunnel was removed.

Posted August 23, 2019, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

Road 160 does not seem to cross Buck Creek, so Mystery.

Posted August 23, 2019, by Ron Reber

Been replaced.

Posted August 23, 2019, by Ron Reber

Been Replaced.

Posted August 23, 2019, by Ron Reber

Bridge has been replaced.

Posted August 22, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Cool story of respect for a fallen soldier!

Posted August 22, 2019, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

From The Mound Valley Journal, 25 Jan 1918:

John Shy Died At Doniphan

Another soldier boy is dead of pneumonia and this time it is a Labette county boy. John W. Shy, a son of C. W. Shy, who lives six miles southeast of Mound Valley, died Monday night at Camp Doniphan and the body was brought to Angola Thursday morning and the funeral services will be held at 1:00 o'clock today (Friday) at the Angola church.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/76971185/john-william-sh...

Posted August 16, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

This is one of prettiest Kings I’ve ever seen!

Posted August 13, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

I was posting comments below as "anonymous", forgot to log back in until now

Posted August 9, 2019, by Anonymous

Yeah Tony, agree. Some unique characteristics on this one, very stout albeit a little bent up.

Posted August 8, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I'm not at all convinced about the 1939 build date.

The use of tight lacing with paired angles for the diagonals and double-paired angles for the verts, along with double-laced angles for the lower chord are all very unique!

I'm more inclined to think that this is a riveted Pratt and not a Warren.

Posted August 8, 2019, by Anonymous

2nd bridge run into in the state with a plaque square in the middle of the structure, kind of neat

Posted August 2, 2019, by Pete Allen (turfyards [at] gmail [dot] com)

Here is a picture that was on facebook and sent in by Mary Sanders. That is her two brothers in the picture. I was in school with Frank Sanders. He was born probably in 1940 and the writing on the picture indicates it was taken in 1942.

Posted July 25, 2019, by Danny J Parker (danparker66109 [at] gmail [dot] com)

1880's James Street bridge 1st Bridge

Posted July 25, 2019, by Danny J Parker (danparker66109 [at] gmail [dot] com)

The lost through truss bridge over the Kansas River at James Street is actually the 2nd of 3 bridges to cross at this location. The first was built around 1880 and fell victim to the 1903 flood, along with nearly all Kansas River bridges at the time. This 2nd bridge was built as a replacement in the 1903 or 04 timeline. The rest of the description is correct it was raised 6 feet just before the flood of 1951, and survived until 1987 when it was replaced by the 3rd bridge. A special note all three bridges have used the same center pier it is still seen today. Attached is the photos of the 1880's bridge and the 2nd bridge.

Posted July 21, 2019, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

According to the July 3rd 2019 addition of the Coffeyville Journal, the Montgomery County Commissioners have been briefed on the potential need to replace this bridge in the next few years. Given its very high national significance, this bridge is a good candidate for preservation. If a new bridge is needed, preserving this one as a pedestrian bridge would be a great solution.

Posted July 13, 2019, by Ron Reber

Listed as being Converse Road, Road sign lists it as Chicken Creek Road as does the Gazetteer.

Posted July 13, 2019, by Ron Reber

Used the original abutments. Laid up stone.

Posted July 11, 2019, by Ron Reber

On Road TP between Road 180 and 160.

Posted July 9, 2019, by Dana and Kay Klein

orthotropic deck? odd indeed

Posted July 8, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I'm good with adding an "Odd Duck" category... Because I have no clue!

Posted July 8, 2019, by Luke

This is certainly a bit of an odd duck... Reminds me of this bridge in Tony's backyard: http://bridgehunter.com/in/marion/bh84071/

And this one in Lawrence, Massachusetts: http://bridgehunter.com/ma/essex/c-rr-north-canal/

Posted June 26, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

This one was replaced more than a year ago, thought I posted photos of it- satellite imagery may still show old bridge, but UCEB firmly in place 😟

Posted June 24, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)
Posted June 24, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Nathan,

This is why I have started poking at the rolled arch bowstrings. Morrison seemed to follow Whipple's original concept with the segmented straight line sectioned bow; using rolled members instead of Whipple's cast ones. As far as I can tell, this is unique to Morrison.

This bridge's connections seem to match those of Mallaham http://bridgehunter.com/oh/putnam/6932509/ which is of unquestioned provenance.

Morrison did not seem to favor cruciform or star iron members whereas Missouri and King did.

My interpretation of HAER is this one is likely a CBW erected in April/May 1871 with Miller and Jameson and Company either erecting the 'kit' or acting as agent.

Also, this is the only early bridge attributed to Missouri Valley without a built up top chord. HAER refers to plans for a bridge over "Hooers Creek in Jefferson county" that I have not seen but it seems to imply the difference being the angles at the panel points (continuous arch on the 'Hooers Creek' design?).

What I still don't know is which companies made continuous arch (not segmented like this one and Mallahan) rolled (not built up) member bowstrings such Melock Hill http://bridgehunter.com/in/switzerland/melock-hill/ and Siloam Springs http://bridgehunter.com/il/adams/bh53514/ as there are just as many attributed to King as CBW and even more that are unattributed.

Regards,

Art S.

Posted June 24, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Also note this is a HAER documented bridge and they did substantial research and did not uncover a connection to Columbia.

Posted June 22, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

Slightly confused on this one, visited about 8 months ago, lots of cars on site, could see folks working behind fence, security booth stopped me and asked what I was doing, gave same answer as always about being a bridge enthusiast, not only was I denied access, I had not one but 2 cars follow me from the site as I drove south the entire way until I crossed city limits, it was rudiculous, the plant seemed fully staffed and heavily monitored at that time.

Posted June 21, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

He would likely tell you the same thing I did.

Posted June 20, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Tony,

So are you going to pester Jim with a call for his opinion or shall I :^)

Regards,

Art S.

PS. I think it matches to Morrison patent.

Posted June 20, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Interesting verticals

Posted June 20, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Rolled verticals and cruciform outriggers.

Posted June 20, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Given the top chord alone I would be inclined to think that as well Art. It doesn't match the 2 surviving examples from MVB&I, but they were building bridges in the early 1870's and could have certainly had an earlier design for a bowstring.

Indiana bridge historian Jim Cooper (An amazing researcher of county records) taught me it is best not to note a builder unless you have proof. In this case I would rather see it left blank than be documented incorrectly.

Posted June 20, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Another bridge with cruciform outriggers and rolled verticals!

Posted June 20, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

I'm almost certain that this is Columbia Bridge Works not Missouri Valley.

Thoughts?

Art S.

Posted June 20, 2019, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Note the rolled verticals in addition to the outriggers.

Posted June 18, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

Follow up - was at this spot again this weekend, there is only the old bridge on Coyote Rd at 190th, no more bridges on 190th to east. Listing should be removed IMO - very rough roads getting to this spot

Posted June 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

A very old and light pony truss! Looks like Farmer Brown has decked it for use in his field.

Posted June 17, 2019, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

The road shows on the 1982 county highway map but is not on the 1990.

Posted June 17, 2019, by Mike Daffron (daffmikron [at] gmail [dot] com)

Cool bridge, Nick! Pretty good size!!

Posted June 17, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

Few dings but open bridge looking pretty good

Posted June 17, 2019, by Nick Schmiedeler (nick [at] nickschmiedeler [dot] com)

This would have been one monster trestle - approx. 75'-100' from creek floor to top of dismantled bridge, maybe 200' long across creek valley - not much left, couldn't get to timbers on W side but E side looking good and concrete supports still fairly solid in waterway