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Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge

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Photo taken by James McCray

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Silver Creek Old 403 bridge

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Overview
Through truss bridge over Silver Creek on CR 403
Location
Clark County, Indiana
Status
Open to traffic
Future prospects
To be replaced by October 31st
History
Built in 1941; rehabilitated 1976
Builder
- A.G. Ryan & Sons (Contractors)
Design
Riveted Parker through truss
Dimensions
Length of largest span: 199.8 ft.
Total length: 201.7 ft.
Deck width: 25.6 ft.
Vertical clearance above deck: 14.8 ft.
Recognition
Eligible for the National Register of Historic Places
Also called
Indiana State Highway Bridge #403-10-1941A
Approximate latitude, longitude
+38.41472, -85.73889   (decimal degrees)
38°24'53" N, 85°44'20" W   (degrees°minutes'seconds")
Approximate UTM coordinates
16/610097/4252583 (zone/easting/northing)
Quadrangle map:
Charlestown
Inventory numbers
INNBI 032000 (Indiana bridge number on the National Bridge Inventory)
INDOT 403-10-01941A (Indiana Dept. of Transportation bridge number)
BH 15910 (Bridgehunter.com ID)
Inspection (as of 09/2015)
Deck condition rating: Fair (5 out of 9)
Superstructure condition rating: Poor (4 out of 9)
Substructure condition rating: Fair (5 out of 9)
Appraisal: Structurally deficient
Sufficiency rating: 34.1 (out of 100)
Average daily traffic (as of 2004)
12,675

Categories 

A.G. Ryan & Sons (1)
Built 1941 (402)
Built during 1940s (3,571)
Clark County, Indiana (72)
Doomed (1,028)
Have street view (22,087)
Indiana (4,198)
NR-eligible (3,971)
Non-Select (301)
Open (36,587)
Owned by county (18,855)
Parker through truss (1,161)
Parker truss (1,515)
Riveted (1,875)
Span length 175-250 feet (1,810)
Structurally deficient (18,438)
Through truss (12,892)
Total length 175-250 feet (3,767)
Truss (29,442)

Update Log 

  • July 29, 2017: New video from Mike Daffron
  • March 6, 2017: Updated by J.P.: Bridge is doomed
  • February 21, 2017: New photos from J.P.
  • February 8, 2017: Updated by Mike Daffron: Added bridge number
  • February 4, 2017: New photos from Mike Daffron
  • December 15, 2012: Updated by J.P.: road has been decommissioned as a indiana highway and is now a county road.
  • June 15, 2011: New photos from J.P.
  • February 10, 2011: Updated by Anthony Dillon: Added year and contractor
  • April 5, 2010: Updated by J.P.: added street view
  • March 24, 2008: New photos from James McCray

Sources 

  • James McCray - jamesinslocomb [at] yahoo [dot] com
  • J.P. - wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com
  • Tony Dillon - spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com
  • Historicbridges.org - by Nathan Holth
  • Mike Daffron - daffmikron [at] gmail [dot] com

Comments 

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted October 12, 2017, by JP (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Road shut down for the next 2 weeks while the truss is removed and the new bridge prepared.

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted April 21, 2017, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I think all truss bridges under replacement should be disassembled and stored for at least 10 years!

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted April 21, 2017, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Tree removal on the north side of the bridge has started.

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted March 21, 2017, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Construction starting soon.

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted March 6, 2017, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Bridge will be gone by fall.

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted February 4, 2017, by Mike Daffron (daffronmike [at] yahoo [dot] com)

As of February 2017, still going strong!

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted December 12, 2016, by CRW (crwilcoxson [at] gmail [dot] com)

Saw comments about counties letting old bridges deteriorate and then they tear them down and they were worried about that happening to this bridge. And another person put that the state website said it was scheduled to be replace. It is my understanding that when the county took over 403 that it was in the agreement that the state had to replace it within 5 years because the county knew it could not afford to. Also there was a meeting about the bridge replacement in September 2014 where they said if no one came forward to take responsibility of it that it would be demolished. That party could dismantle it and move it or leave it and maintain it since the new bridge will be built next to it. I haven't been able to find out anything else about the meeting or the bridge. I live near by and think it would be cool if it stayed and got turned into a little park like area.

Hope this was informative

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted January 9, 2015, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Seen crews out around the bridge the other day. Sad times for me. Only reason I loved driving on 403.

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted September 17, 2014, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Should be dismantled and "Bridge-banked" for later reuse.

If I was to hit the lottery (guess that would require me playing it) I would create such a place to acquire and store these landmarks.

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted September 17, 2014, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)
Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted December 20, 2012, by Ed Hollowell (erhollowell [at] aol [dot] com)

Yeah, usually counties just leave bridge alone till safety closes it then they replace it with uceb with commissioners names on plate. No plate or names if you maintain historic bridge. Also construction contractors make wonderful friends if your a commish!

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted December 19, 2012, by Nathan Holth (form3 [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

I do not disagree that counties tend to let bridges deteriorate, then demolish and replace. But most preserved bridges in Indiana are locally owned either by counties or other organization. InDOT on the other hand is noted for bulldozing some of Indiana's rarest bridges that have excellent rehabilitation feasibility. The latest example is the Indianapolis Boulevard Bridge in Lake County.

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted December 19, 2012, by Jim Grey (mobilene [at] gmail [dot] com)

Maybe I'm too cynical, but I think transfer of a state bridge to county ownership is a worse situation for old bridges. My experience with Indiana counties is that their commissioners tend to favor demolishing and replacing old bridges rather than rehabilitating them. I've also seen counties let old bridges just rot to the point of no return and then replace them because they can sometimes get big federal money for that, whereas maintenance and rehabilitation has to come entirely out of county coffers.

Silver Creek CR 403 Bridge
Posted December 15, 2012, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

With this road now under county care, is this better or worse conditions for a historic bridge? The bridge has been listed for future replacement on the state site.

Silver Creek IN 403 Bridge
Posted November 7, 2011, by Brad Lain

I would love to see more people put alot more effort into making sure these Big bridges dont get demolished or torn down or replaced unless it is going to be moved to another location or widen it to make more traffic cross and yet still have the same exact Big Bridge there because i think that the only reason these Big Bridges are vanishing at a rapid and fast speed is that the Big Bridges are too narrow for the traffic to handle as opposed the amount of the traffic there was when it was built because not as many people traveled back then so that is why it was built as a double lane Big Bridge instead of a quad lane big bridge , Now if it was built in 2011/2012 it would be a quad lane Big Bridge, i would love to see people go back and take out the " eyesore " Concrete/Cement Bridges where there was previously a Big Bridge and replace the "eyesore" Concrete bridge with a Big Bridge but Quad Lanes instead of Double Lanes

Silver Creek IN 403 Bridge
Posted November 7, 2011, by Brad Lain

Please fix this Big Bridge up so it is wider and stronger and dont destroy it and replace it with one of those eyesore concrete bridges ( i greatly encourage this with this Big Bridge and all others on other Big Bridges in this county and other counties and other states )

Bridge comment
Posted November 7, 2011, by Brad Lain

This Big Bridge is identical ( to the way it was made ) where HWY 11 and White River meet at by Seymour ( Jackson County ) but the only 2 differences are the 1 ( new ) color - Light Blue ( the Big bridge at Seymour was origionally was Green just like most HWY Big Bridges ) and the 2nd thing is there is only 1 Big Bridge here but on HWY 11 by Seymour across the river there is 2 Big Bridges but when we look at the Big Bridges here and by Seymour on HWY 11 --- there is more steel between the hole ( road ) where we drive through and the top of the Big Bridgeso therefore it confuses me on both Big Bridges how i should really see it ( it is kind of an illusion )because i am not sure if the hole where we drive through on both Big Bridges ( here and on HWY 11 ) is a smaller hole to drive though than on most HWY big Bridges with a top or if there is alot more Steel on top of the Big Bridge but with the replacing the Big Bridge ((( Big No No ))) restore and preserve it and widen it to make it easier for traffic to flow through and go across and widen it by temporairly closing the Big Bridge and then build a temporary bridge off to the Right or Left side so traffic can still flow through easily and the cut the Big Bridge in 1/2 and then haul in more steel and then weld the brought in steel to the split in 1/2 to create a quad lane bridge because i think the only reason these beautiful Big Bridges are disappearing so rapidly and then replacing them with those eyesore concrete bridges where people who are passengers cannot see the water in the creeks/rivers and the Big Bridges are way better looking and way fancier so that is why they need alot of TLC to save them and not destroy them on purpose now if it was moved somewhere else and used in a different location , then that is perfectly OK to do , but not to put them somewhere that they cannot enjoy the excitement and thrill of going through them , i feel like when i go across a Big Bridge , it is the same sense as going down a speeding roller coaster and so there is 2 good reasons to save and preserve them is fancy looks and thrill of going across these Big Bridges. but these Big Bridges are going away too fast and more needs to be built to replace the lost ones. But make 1 Major change to the new Big Bridges ( if they ever make them ) Make them Quad Lanes when they are on a ST.RD. or U.S. HWY but i feel like it is equal to losing an old friend when i se a Big Bridge being torn down and being replaced with one of those eyesore concrete bridges instead of fixing the Big Bridge and making it so more people can cross it at a given time by making the double lane HWY Big Bridge into a Quad Lane Big Bridge but there is always love and excitement when i see a Big Bridge and go across it but if it is one of those eyesore concrete bridges then it is just like blah and nothing fancy and dull and lame and not much to it so preserve the iron and steel and covered bridges and dont put a concrete bridge in its place where a passenger in a car cannot see the water in the creek/river

Silver Creek IN 403 Bridge
Posted June 16, 2011, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

J.P.

This bridge was not given "Select" status in the Indiana Bridge Inventory. However, it appears that they are at least attempting to see if there is any support locally for saving it. The bridge is listed on the Indiana Historic Bridge Marketing page with a "status pending" tag.

As for the phone # on the sign goes......it will get you Bernardin Lochmueller and Associates, Inc., who are the consulting firm for this bridge.

Silver Creek IN 403 Bridge
Posted June 15, 2011, by J.P.

So yeah I totally misread this sign, I stopped and photographed the sign and was not happy, Ill be incorporating these into the bridges photos as well.

Silver Creek IN 403 Bridge
Posted June 5, 2011, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

?? MAY be historic ??........I would prefer IS historic.....

But I guess it's a start!

Silver Creek IN 403 Bridge
Posted June 5, 2011, by J.P.

This bridge now has blue signs on the approaches on either side that say, the bridge you are about to cross may be historic. for more information call and i don't know what the number is.