I never noticed that arch was still there!! I'll have to make a trip out there here in a couple days for pictures.
Sometimes people will complain about the older concrete bridges too:
I wanted to post this before I framed it.
Like these old King Girders. Heck I enjoy culverts, to each there own. If you post TOO many UCEBs the group WILL let you know. I have many shots of bridges I don't post. I take because I'm there and probably no one else will bother. Not for my edification just for future history. Put up a tiny 1920's culvert the other day. Really nothing special, however I was deep in Pennsyltucky , and it was marked to be replaced probably soon as bridge up road was being so at that time.
This is on my to do list !
I'd like to see a few more of this one! Looks like easy pull off, always take caution on live Railroads!
I would be scared to walk across it let alone drive an oil field service truck across it.
I found a souvenir program on ebay from the opening of the bridge. I had to buy it.
Glad to help
Thank you Art.
Luke, as always, thank you.
My pleasure Melissa!
I always enjoy looking at these old photos and postcards and trying to fill in the blanks! This one is challenging though!
Tony, I appreciate Any information. Thank you very much !
Hard to tell Melissa... The upper chord looks to be flat which would suggest a Pratt, Whipple or Baltimore truss. But it's too fuzzy to be sure.
Hey there Bridge Hunters...I need some help with this one. Please review and update as needed. Thanks !
Thank you Mom. It was Cold this morning ! I was at this bridge six weeks ago on Friday and it was 90 !
Fantastic photos of a long ago bridge!You are doing a great job on posting these beautiful forgotten bridges! 🌉🌉🌉
I was planning a trip to this bridge. While researching it I found out it was Lost. I included a link to the source of the information.
My friends and I used to drive over this bridge in the late 1970s. Even then, It would creak and bounce. They piled a load of rock there so you cant druve over it but you could walk part of it. Bad neighborhood now though.
41.4984005, -87.9066455 There's another Joliet & Eastern bridge foundation here.
Thank you Clark. I was an hour away from home, alone, and unsure what to do . I thanked him and went on my way to the next one.
Although it's best to avoid confrontation with people, I always try to verify claims of ownership when denied access. I have often run into folks posting land, plowing over unused roads, placing gates, or openly claiming control over public land. In only one case has that claim been valid when checked against official records.
You might start with the county road people here:
Sometimes approaching from another direction avoids signs or people. If you find it's public land carry the name and phone number of a county contact and try again, politely of course.
(If all else fails I'll loan you my tank.)
Jason, it would be wonderful if one of the three old bridges we have in White County (Cherry Shoals, Lowe, or Sigler) could be converted for pedestrian use. The areas the bridges are in are all private property farm ground. It is sad most people will never know they are there, or only see them in photographs. What's worse is those who know of their existence but do not see the historical importance and beauty of these bridges.
On Wednesday October 24th I asked for and was denied permission to photograph the Lally columns. The landowner did confirm the remains of the columns and possibly an abutment.
Melissa, this Looks very Chicagoish regarding the design of the Plaque. The reason being is that we have a Bridge like this in Lanesboro in MN. That one is now open for pedestrians. A really neat Bridge. :-)
Thanks Tony ! Any and all information is appreciated !
Even without the plaques those funny little open finials were unique to Chicago Bridge Co. as well!
Thanks Luke ! Much appreciated !
Plaque matches up with this Chicago Bridge Co. built bridge, so I'd say it's an open-and-shut case: https://bridgehunter.com/mo/cedar/caplinger-mills/
Luke, look at the plaque. Do you think it's a Chicago Bridge Co. ? I didn't know if I could/should post this...
Thank you Luke. I saw the same picture you posted but was unsure about posting it. Thank you for adding it !
Nice find, Melissa.
There is a photograph of this bridge in a book I own: White County Illinois a Pictorial History, published by Acclaim Press in 2007.
My favorite of the day but it was creepy. I could see and hear vehicles on Route 1 but I had an almost overwhelming sense of Isolation.
Sounds like you are all set, happy bridge hunting!
I have been wearing two pair of socks with my hiking boots and tights under my jeans. I have a bag with supplies that Definitely includes bug spray. I am paranoid about ticks and spiders.
I need a Compass. I do not know my directions.
Now I get it,looking kind of Southwest
I took the photo when I walked down into the ditch area.
Picture 3 has debris etc but the arch is from the highway bridge.
Looks like a different Arch?
Debris in the creek/ditch area. It was Thick.
What is shown in picture 3?
Just found this site and I was just there today. It's got permanent barricades at either end but it's still up. October 30, 2018
Melissa hope you find MANY more 1878 Bridges! Thanks for making the Journey.
Thank you very much. This was the first bridge I photographed four weeks ago.
Just to clarify: Cherry Shoals is the Baltimore Truss, not this bridge.
FWIW Dexter, beet juice is not as cheap as salt and has to be mixed with salt to work. It's got its value but it's not the thing that's going to stop corrosion from de-icing.
Keep thinking--I give bonus points to senior projects that have a benefit to bridge preservation!
Baltimore trusses were more common on Railroads and thus ones built for highway use are pretty rare. And it's a very old... possibly pre-1880 span from a firm that has less examples remaining that some of the more prominent companies.
Looking at pic #9, these endposts are like nothing I have seen before. I originally thought they were paired channels, but looking closer I see 2 sets of paired angles. The outside pair are laced together but it's hard to tell with the inside set.
I really want to swoop in and save this one!
Luke, thank you for answering my question. I appreciate the information.
Not Tony, but one of the reasons is that it's one of a handful of extant examples of the early work of a regional bridge manufacturer, and sadly those numbers are dwindling.
Tony, do you care to briefly explain why Cherry Shoals is special ?
Seeing stringers rusted through is no big concern. They are thinner and thus more susceptible to section loss. In most occasions they have been replaced at some point, maybe more than once. From what I can see in the photos the truss members and floor beams appear to be in good shape!
And yes, even though the Cherry Shoals Bridge is the real gem and the Lowe Bridge is pretty special as well, it's always good to come across a large Camelback like this one!
Love the green moss !
Love the inside view !
Elliott, these are Amazing ! I would have loved to have been there.
Another from the Cairo division of the Big Four aka the Egyptian line.
The ravages of Demon Salt. Someone who wants to preserve old bridges needs to come up with a cost effective melter that is harmless to (or even protects) steel.
I did not know the bridge was there until James found it while reviewing aerial imagery of the Little Wabash river. I have no idea when it was built or when it was closed. Cherry Shoals Bridge and Lowe Bridge are known in our county. This bridge is definitely a Hidden Gem.
if the approach stringers are rusted through in that many places, I wonder how long we have until the span falls into the river
My first photos were early in the morning. I went back today and had much better results.
Thanks Luke. I appreciate the information. My phone is definitely convenient as far as taking and uploading photos.
Melissa, if you know what you're doing, you can put a smartphone camera into manual mode and adjust settings that way.
I've stopped using my point-and-shoot and opt to just use my S7 for most of my photography.
Just invest in a rechargeable battery pack of a high mAh capacity, and don't cheap out on it unless you enjoy the smell of burnt plastic (And burning everything else.)
Yes and on my smartphone...I need a Camera
This was my favorite stop today. Probably because it did not require getting in a ditch...
This is a beautiful photo with the touches of Autumn color! Great work!
Doris it is a nice picture, have you considered nominating for an Othmar H Amman award? There is a best photo catagorie
This is a fabulous picture! As bad as I hate to admit it, the graffiti adds to the pic!
Thanks Luke. I am trying to take advantage of the mild weather.
As always, nice find!
Thank you Luke. I did not know whether to consider it lost if only one section remains. I appreciate your assistance.
Clark, thank you for the information. The bridge was quite impressive from the ground. The view from atop from beautiful too.
Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago, and St. Louis (Cairo Division) in 1905 (per Eldorado, IL 15' quad), New York Central in 1941, Penn Central in 1974. Presumable became Conrail then Norfolk Southern before being abandoned.
The road does not show on the 1941 or 1974 quads.
The Illinois Historic Bridge Survey lists this as "Abandoned N&S RR", but that's all I know.
I do not remember a time when this bridge was open. Luke is correct of course. It is all farm ground on the other side.
1938 aerial from historicaerials just shows two farm roads going to the bridge.
Thank you Mom lol. I am surprised you didn't tell me to not walk on the bridge but at 42 I guess I should know better...
This is a group of outstanding photos.I have been past this bridge a thousand times and never got the view that I got today with this photos.
Tony, thank you for your assistance. This was the first abandoned bridge I became interested in and it will always be my favorite. About 15 years I walked out to it with a female friend and my daughter. I knew it was there but never visited the site. It sparked my interest and I've went out there about once a year but this is the first year I photographed it. It was exciting to discover this website.
Beautifully intact Bedstead!
I think it's an 1890's span based on the Dean Road Bridge in Ohio that shares a similar portal bracing design and is listed as 1898.
Tony, I will never look at my briefcase the same ever again lol
James, thank you for all of your assistance over the past two weeks. I greatly appreciate it.
The Illinois Historic Bridge Survey gives the date for this bridge as 1891, but I don't know where that came from (maybe the plaques were intact at the time of the survey?)
In some cases, it's possible to dig through the county or township records and find the original bids or contracts for a bridge. I have no idea what's available for White County, though. Old newspapers are sometimes helpful too but it doesn't look like anything is available online.
Is it possible this bridge is older than the reported 1891 build date ? Massillon built a Whipple in 1878 over the same river on our main street(Illinois Route 1). Could they have been built around the same time ?
I dub this style of plaque the "Briefcase Plaque"!
I'm 99% sure it's a Massillon built span... Check the portal bracing
White County does have a historical society and three small museums that are open by appointment. I will have to see if they have any information on the bridge.
Too bad about the plaque, not surprised though. I wonder if the local historic society took it for safekeeping or if it was stolen.
Bring a gigantic zip tie with you so you can strap the caisson back together :^)
Good luck on your next trip!
I will be making another trip to this bridge in a few weeks to photograph the opposite side. It has a damaged caisson and I was unable to get a clear photo of it today. I am waiting on the leaves to fall before I trek out there.
Art, sadly there was no plaque.
Thank you for the trek and the pictures and thanks yo Mr. Winters!
It's definitely the Pratt, not the Whipple and it seems to match your historic picture. Given the circumstances it's not in too bad shape!
Out of curiosity, did you see the builder's plaque on the end portal? The portal bracing reminds me of Massillon, but I'm not confident in this. Nathan, does the portal style match any Chicago or mid-west builders?
I hope some information can be gathered about this bridge from these photos. Any and all assistance is welcome.
A special thank you to Joey Winter for graciously allowing me access to this bridge.
Luke, about 5 miles from this bridge, in Norris City, there was a Penn Central overpass. I don't know when it was removed.
Big Four/CCC&StL was bought by NYC in 1906 (Merged in 1930). Pending on when the line was abandoned, it could either have crosses the Penn Central or Conrail.
In 1905 the railroad was the Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago and St. Louis Railway.
In 1963 the track was owned by New York Central. The railfans can probably fill in the blanks.