Amazing job with the new decking and railing. Glad to see this wonderful old bridge be brought back into use!
was there 2-24-2021, boarded over for trail with railings
was there 2-24-2021, it is boarded over for trail with railing
Recent Bing Map birdseye imagery seems to suggest this bridge probably came from from here:
Recent Bing Map birdseye imagery seems to suggest this bridge probably came from from here:
I used to play around the old base of stone for the old Red bridge as a kid ...And caught and raised pigeons with nieghborhood kids ...We caught them from the Newer Memorial Bridge under carrage !!!
What I want to see in Long Grove, is somebody with a webcam aimed at the bridge, so they can record all the crashes, and post them on YouTube. Not only could they turn the miscreants in to the authorities, but it could also be very entertaining. Just like all those hilarious videos from that 11'8" RR underpass in Durham NC.
I have a stereo card of the original bridge.
I would love to see the fake covering, along with all of it's artificial romanticism, go by the wayside. That being said, I don't see these people giving in and suspect they will continue to deal with the impact (yes, pun) of their decision.
My bigger fear would be them scrapping the pony truss and ordering one of those fake gingerbread house looking gigs from Ohio.
I didn't realize you were a ghost writer for the Tribune!
I'm actually in favor of the covering. I consider it an umbrella on top of the pony. Besides, each moron that hits this 'umbrella' may learn a lesson and not repeat the mistake on a real historic structure.
Besides, it is really fun envisioning your irritation of a fake covering on a genuine bridge and you getting worked up each time it gets hit. I picture you yelling at the computer screen first at the trucker then at those responsible each time it gets hit :^)
A really outstanding editorial on the bridge's current state.
Still standing... not for lack of trying on the part of trucks.
According to the local newspaper this bridge will be coming down sometime next week, the city is supposed to have an area set up for spectators.
wow cool bridge dude
It's beyond unbelievable that this bridge was allowed to remain open without considerable improvements.
I have researched and read about so many bridge disasters I'm developing anxiety when I go across bridges.
Sounds like a great flick on "Shudder"!
Needless to say, definitely a reused railroad truss. appears to have been double tracked, which is an interesting feature.
Bridge reconstruction, planned since 2017, is still on hold. Funding for a pedestrian-only replacement bridge has apparently already been secured by the city. Chicago Department of Transportation says, "The design process is taking longer than expected due to the historic nature of the bridge."
Notable historic parts that need to be preserved, are the original railings, the jack-arch design of the deck, and the limestone abutments. These abutments are historic in that they incorporate support for both this bridge, and a previous bridge at this location. They are in good enough condition to carry pedestrians and an occasional emergency vehicle. The deteriorated limestone wingwalls are not load-bearing, and could be repaired easily. The only part that has become compromised is the steel superstructure.
I can only speculate, that with the bitter controversy surrounding the proposed nearby Obama Center and massive expansion of the golf course, that now any change within historic Jackson Park is being scrutinized extremely carefully and publicly. That includes this NR-contributing bridge, which must now undergo full historic-site review at neighborhood council, city, state, and federal levels, along with the rest of Jackson Park. There may be further long delays. A strategy to repair rather then replace this bridge may become expedient, as the controversy involving the whole park continues.
It sure looks to me that the arch approach may still be there as well. I would guess that the arch probably predates the pictured bridge, and may have been part of an 1880s or earlier deck truss.
I agree. The location farther south looks like the more likely location. Also looks like the stone section may still remain and the tracks were realigned.??? Adding to my field visit list.
I guess it must read New Road bridge. Between the small size and the font I miss-read it.
Thank you Tony ! Always taking care of my mistakes!
Neither postcard mentions a "New Ross"...
Doesn't appear so... was an easy fix.
The postcard says it is the New Ross Bridge. Also called?
The location looks in error it seems. The first bridge was a bit west and connected N Dwight Road with Calhoun St.
Was it covered? The picture would seem to indicate otherwise.
Wow, Iíve been waiting for pics of this one for a while! Looks like the floor was completely rebuilt at some point, and other points strengthened. The truss appears nearly identical to this one:
I was so disappointed to find this bridge in such poor shape. This is such an amazing bridge one of a kind (OK two of a kind) up close. So be left to rot is just an incredible shame.
Picture 31 is a really cool photo. You can see this bridge:
Before it was moved to Minnesota.
I remember this bridge when I was a kid in the 60s. The counterweight had black and white hash stripes, similar to the railroad gates of the era. It looked like it had a wood covering, but probably did not. Also the gates and traffic light were very different.
I went to visit/drive over this bridge the other night only to find that there was a Dead End sign put up and Road Closed barriers on each side of the bridge.
to become part of the Sherman to Williamsville pedestrian trail
slated for replacement spring 2021
Reportedly, this bridge will be getting replaced next year due to the low clearance. Sad, although not entirely surprising, especially with the blind corner and repeated truck strikes.
The bridge that predates this one was known as the Vandeveer Bridge 1872. Looks like it took the same path.
So glad that bridgehunter encourages location..... 😭😂🤣🙄Right, jeremy?!
Tony, I deleted the photo. Would you strip the page ?
Robert, thank you. I'll make changes or delete.
I found this article in the paper and I believe it is about this bridge. I don't know if you can use it or not but thought I'd pass it on.
Photo Credit: Roger Long
Looks like this bridge is the same as the Browns bridge.
The postcard shows a view of the bridge looking north from the Railroad trestle bridge.
Interesting story - the Effie Afton's owners would sue the Rock Island Bridge Company over the collision, in Hurd v. Rock Island Bridge Company. The company would hire Abraham Lincoln to defend them.
Short version: Hung jury, 9 to 3 in favor of the company. For those interested in the long version, I'll add a link.
Yes! This is a HIGHLIGHT!
John, it's one of my favorites and I'd Love for you to photograph it !
It appears that about 70% of the truss portion of this bridge is in Indiana.
This is the bridge in question. "Doomed" tag was placed on it as early as 2013.
I canít confirm anything, but I looked a little further. Apparently $7M was earmarked for a replacement of the back channel bridge nearby. I canít imagine $7M covers replacement of this bridge. I would expect this size bridge to be around $50M if not far more. There are two documents put out by the IL DOT, neither which is real clear. Iím going to guess the $7M is going towards the back channel bridge, and the lesser amount towards engineering studies (as seen in the other document).
Iím really hoping this one isnít on the chopping block. Iím not sure if I can get down there this winter, but I would love to hit it. It is a very unique and important structure in the area.
It seems that bridges across the Wabash at the state line are always a problem. Illinois owns most of the river and has to pay for the bridge in most cases. Because of that there are few highway bridges across the southern Wabash and bridges like the New Harmony bridge and this one. New Harmony was built by a federally chartered company and this bridge was a strange example of a private person taking ownership of an existing bridge and re-purposing it from a rail bridge to a highway. I'm not sure what the motivation was for Illinois to get involved. Maybe they were just embarrassed that such a need was not being met in this area.
Wow, thatís a huge bummer. I havenít seen any official news releases about it, but Iím sure that is coming. The only redeeming possibility is that specific program has a large budget shortfall due to COVID, so maybe it buys this bridge some time.
It would be nice if they would leave the old bridge standing, especially since it is a landmark
Illinois DOT has announced plans to replace this bridge main span and overflow span starting in 2021.
Satolli, thanks again for the video! Loved it!
Here's a video on the bridge I just posted a couple of days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AHrH1ROedc&t=160s
This page is for the old bridge but most of the photos are of the replacement bridge. This should be split to two pages
Slated for replacement spring of 2021
Two photos from 1999
I've heard rumors that the Illinois Railnet may soon cease operations over this bridge, as cars stored on the line south have been moved out to be scrapped and there are no more customers south of it. Because this bridge is definitely considered to be a navigation hazard, this bridges future is extremely cloudy.
I found my answer. According to http://chicagoloopbridges.com/bridges12/NB16/NB-Bridges.html this bridge as well as grand ave, Ohio ave, Halsted st, and formerly Chicago ave are still kept operable
Iíve been waiting to hear more about this one. I wasnít sure if they were actually going to keep it in place. This seems like the kind of bridge they would give up on and bulldoze so the project is ďsleek and modernĒ
This bridge will be kept in the open position as a viewing platform while a new bridge will be built across the river for an extension of the 606 trail as part of the Lincoln Yards megaproject.
I see no rivets or built up beams. I think this truss might be modern
I am still curious about this one. It appears to be a railroad design, and appears to be a Chicago & North Western span. Numerous spans as such ended up being reused from railroad spans, and redeveloped into highway spans to cross the railroads. The link Tyler posted appears to be a similar bridge. Iím also curious what the history of that bridge was. I asked around at various historical societies about this bridge, and got no response
Perhaps this bridge is the same as this https://bridgehunter.com/il/cook/addison-avenue/
It was replaced a very long time ago and itís the same design.
The sidewalk for the bridge is in the process of being widened. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic is diverted between the center truss lines. The construction can be seen in the photo I posted.
This bridge shows up as a 103' deck truss in 1968 track charts. Pretty clear the truss was replaced with the current bridge, which appears to have reused a girder span.
File not found on the bridge pic..
This one is curious. Three truss lines typically indicate the trusses were modified. I would expect these trusses to be very late 1880s to mid 1890s. The line was not constructed until 1913. In photo 1, it appears the trusses were strengthened at the ends with solid members, instead of laced members like what would be expected. I know there are two deck trusses in the Springfield area to the north that reused early 1880s trusses. I would assume this one was built out of reused trusses as well.
I've been meaning to comment on this one for a while. The main truss is apparently 1891, but the line was not built until about 1913. This makes me believe that the span was probably relocated. The two large deck girders may very well be original to this location. The two smaller deck girders were probably added in the 1920s.
I agree. At least some of the deck girders were added in the 1920s. It seems that a lot of stuff was upgraded about 10 years after this line was originally built. I didnít realize it was fairly tall as well. The piers are unusual, Iím not sure Iíve ever seen anything like that before on a railroad bridge. Even with the safety platforms, Iím not sure I would even attempt to walk over this one. Iím not sure what kind of traffic comes down this line either.
This was far more impressive up close than on Google Earth. Huge undertaking back in the middle of no where. I'm guessing current approach structures added later?? Input?? Had it not been for the small decks about every 125' you wouldn't even attempt it.
this seems to be a double with PRR, has exact same coordinates.
This one is a beauty..too bad it has no visible date. Looks fairly old.
It looks like one of the three spans is different. Very unusual to see one approach different but not the other. Perhaps the original approach was damaged?
It appears from the pictures that the bascule leaves were replaced some time in the past. I would expect a 1930s bridge to have riveted girders rather than welded ones
This is the only rainbow arch in Illinois
I believe it is still operable, though it is only rarely actually raised. The warning lights and closing gates appear to still be in good condition. If you needed it to be raised for a boat, you would likely need to make special arrangements, but it might still be possible.
The Kinzie Street bridge is one of the lowest to the water, so it still might need to be raised for a boat that could fit under the other bridges, including the higher Chicago Avenue Bridge which has been replaced by a fixed bridge.
It's adjacent to the CNW - Kinzie Street Bridge, which is stored in the raised position, and lowered once a year for maintenance by the UP RR.
All of the moveable bridges on the North Branch Chicago River are endangered by the loss of heavy industry along the waterway. It is becoming only a recreational waterway.
I'm not finding anything to suggest it still does.
Nathan Holth... This is a question you could likely answer.
Does this bridge still operate?
HOW TALL IS THAT BRIDGE AT HIGHEST POINT AND AT WHAT WATER LEVEL WAS THAT TAKEN?
Boyington & Rust, along with L.B. Boomer & Mortiz Lassig, formed American Bridge Works https://books.google.com/books?id=07osAAAAYAAJ&pg=PT2&dq=%22...
The following link shows a contemporary advert:
As a fan of Chicago bridges, any thoughts or comments?
Have you heard of Boyington & Rust?
Note the timber piers! Also, the rest of the structure, the edge of which is just caught in the image, may be more substantial that originally described in the 1935 article.
The main span on the old bridge was definitely a 1960s or 1970s span.
Railroad records indicate this bridge was installed in 1911, and maintained by the ATSF. It seems to be a common theme that railroads install old railroad bridges or construct highway bridges and maintain the road crossings of creeks if it is within or near the RR right-of-way. This one is another good example:
Interpretive signage says that the bridge is open for service vehicles. Updated status
I found the plaque on this bridge. I would expect the other similar bridges on this canal to have the same builder
My ex's grandfather drove a horse drawn wagon hauling out excavation for that tunnel.
IDOT has completed a 3 year environmental impact study on replacing the IL-106 Florence bridge on the Illinois River and IDOT says the new bridge will be a UCEB that's 300 feet south of the existing bridge and will be similar to the new US 54 Champ Clark bridge that opened last year.
The bridge is still standing but closed to all traffic. A new bridge has been built connecting 2950N Rd, and the road going over the main Middle Fork bridge to the north now curves around the creek to connect at the west end of the new bridge.
This bridge has been demolished and replaced with a new concrete bridge aligning 2950N east to west.
What a pity, and also a waste of taxpayer funds because preservation would have cost less than demolition. I'm glad I was able to visit it with my camera in February.
Pictures of the bridge have just disappeared from the Village of Millbrook's official website. It's like it was never there. There is no longer any reason to visit Millbrook.
One of the best documentation is the drone inspection on YouTube, posted above. The Bridgehunter Chronicles entry also contains a number of photos, including post-demolition.
Since the bridge structure and deck itself was in fairly good condition, it is a pity that relocation was not considered, as with the South Smith Road Bridge in Rock County, Wisconsin.
News on the demolition: https://bridgehunterschronicles.wordpress.com/2020/08/26/his...
I host a Facebook page named Seeking Siloam Springs on which I post historical photos and stories of the village of Siloam that existed from about 1883 until 1943. Everyone is invited to share stories and photos and ask and answer questions. The long-term goal is a book that preserves all the history I can collect. My husband's ancestor Isariah Mayfield was the first settler in Beverly Twp, and his son, John, was one of the first Siloam settlers and Isariah spent the last years of his life there with John. Their descendents were still there when the community was torn down to make it a park, and Turner Mayfield, my father-in-law, was the first park ranger. The post office stood very near this bridge, and his mother, Olive (Dolly) Johnson Mayfield, was postmistress at one time. Please join the web page and share what you know. Linda Riggs Mayfield
Mike, Boo Berry perhaps?
Cool! Maybe this should be called Frankenberry
Found this a few months ago. Itíll probably last forever. When I added this, every single MOB on this trail was on the site but this wasnít. Very confused
Plot Twist Part 2:Nathan chartered the bus
Plot twist: Nathan was on the bus and told the driver to cross it