My father Homer (Bill), was an engineer for the Florida DOT and did a lot of work on this bridge. He was on the old bridge when the barge ran into the span. He was part of the rescue effort, yelling down to boats attempting to rescue survivors or recover bodies.
He had terrible dreams the rest of his life concerning this terrible accident and he had trouble with his vocal cords, after having yelled down to the rescue boats.
We also liked to fish off the old bridge and we caught many fine fish.
Yup. Nathan is correct. The streetview on the Bridge Street Bridge can be posed just like the above picture. (With a pickup truck in the shot.)
The Railfanning link is referring to a swing bridge at Clarksville, not Nashville.
Also known as Hopewell Road bridge?
I "hope" all is "well", and you're not posting these as recent losses, since they show up in satellite imagery. 8^P
This bridge looks to be still existing as http://bridgehunter.com/mo/cedar/bear-creek/
I think this listing should be saved for the now-demolished bridge, and a new one be made up for the new replacement. Whoever gets over there first gets to do it...
There are no emergency funds, but KSHS can move to investigate or add it to their database. They would look into it, was also the response I got Robert.
Need a mason it appears....at low water.
HOW DOES ONE FIGURE IT OUT.
That is so cool. Congratulations. More than a photo op. I shall be in Texas next week, can I do some video footage of you and the bridge.
Informed the team, it is a bid number but not yet assigned a date at TxDOT.
Give me a call.
641 260 1262
It seems the signs are made from boards recovered from the old bridge. :)
Like Art said, web navigation is easier if the new is on the same page as the old.
But I have been digging some more. The new bridge is longer, wider, higher, and uses laminated lumber for some of the high load components. The abutments are fully modern construction with steel piles to bedrock. So the new one clearly is not an 1870 bridge.
I'm glad they choose to build a timber bridge with the same type truss and similar construction technics - but I'm beginning to think the new one can't be on the same listing as the old one - except as a related bridge.
I think the Parker truss photo belongs on this page:
The listing here is clearly for a pony truss, verified by satellite.
I, Kit Worley just signed the temporary construction easement with MilamCo. Txdot could send out for bid in April. Could start construction as early as July. Said contractor may use large crain to pick and set In pasture to disassemble / repair to near original look and install original type wooden flooring. It will be a sight to see them pick. Photo opportunity. My Grandfather donated the property in 1911 and bridge is adjacent to the Historic Apache Pass river crossing along the El Camino Real a National Historic trail. The Apache Pass crossing is still used today by the sixth generation Worley family. Will try to keep you posted when they get ready to pick bridge. You can see more history at www.apachepass.com
Long ago MILW "Hiawathas" sprinted across this old bridge.
KSHS has just added this structure to their Historic Bridge database. The listing can be viewed here:
The listing says this is a pony truss, but the photograph shows a very nice Parker through truss.
Too bad the TRUSS Award nomination deadline has passed...
I have notified Julie Bowers about this bridge. I also sent a message to one of my contacts at KSHS. This one has got to be saved. As I told Julie, it ranks right up there with the Long Shoals Bridge in terms of significance. We are down to six extant P.E. Lane listings on Bridgehunter.
Two of those six are in Kansas. The other bridge, which has similar but smaller portal bracing, is on the NRHP. You can see it here:
As a side note, I find it interesting that this bridge has very short and very lightweight stringer approaches. I would think that pony trusses would have made better approach spans.
I'm afraid that unless something drastic is done soon to reinforce that failing pier...this bridge will soon be in the "Lost" category.
Would hate to see that happen!
Well, I guess I was wrong in my speculation about the builder. I never guessed P.E. Lane.
Yeah, you guys are right -- also, I'm an idiot, since the original wooden bridge burned down in 1864, so that makes no sense.
Looks like those sources are either wrong or they are referring to a different bridge..
The technology associated with this bridge and its design was not available until around 1900, so I think that the build date shown is correct. This bridge is most likely a replacement for the bridge that was built in 1859. This is definitely a post-1900 truss design.
The truss spans of this bridge stylistically date to the 20th Century. The 1916 date seems appropriate. Trusses with members this massive and with riveted connections were not built in 1859. Very few railroad truss bridges built before 1880 exist today because they were not strong enough to handle increasing loads.
Thank you very much for posting photographs of this highly significant bridge. Until now, we have had only aerial imagery of this structure on Bridgehunter.
I will be notifying some contacts of mine at KSHS, to inform them of this bridge, which does not appear on their Historic Bridge Inventory.
This is a very rare example of a P.E. Lane Bridge.
I am finding numerous references claiming that this bridge was built in 1859, not 1916.
As it replaced the original wooden structure burned in the civil war, this seems much more likely, unless the bridge was not replaced for over 50 years.
"Nashville Then and Now" also makes reference to an 1859 build date.
An accurate recreation of a bridge recently washed away by a storm is about as good as it gets given the circumstances. If they took a few planks off the old bridge and incorporated them into this bridge, would it be considered a 'restoration' of the original? - that's what the do with old planes. Thus, my first argument is to keep it with the original because it is a bridge built to the original's specs in the original location so there is continuity.
My second argument is keep it together for ease of website navigation.
I believe you have the correct bridge, it is on the Whitewater River. From what I have been told it has been referred to as "hangman's bridge" since the KKK days. I will try and post some photos recently taken.
Some pictures of the bridge at it's new home:
What a loss this was. A cantilever truss with a Whipple and Petit trusses on both ends, plus multiple approach spans.
Why are there five photos of other covered bridges located in other states on this page???
Anyway - since it seems the new bridge at this location is new construction, I'm thinking it should not be a part of this page, bug get it's own new page - if it gets a page at all as it's certainly not historic now!
Sadly, this bridge was replaced last year - 2012 - by a modern soulless concrete impostor. I will try to get a picture next time I am out that way.
Hey Robert... I think that Mr. Lytton is talking about this one:
Sure fits his given location and looks to be of that era.
I happen to know of a PE Lane bridge built in Butler Cty Kansas west of Augusta in 1886. The bridge is on a closed road and is deteriorating rapidly, really ashame!
I think you might have just messed up in your posting.
Quick question: I posted about a replacement covered bridge in Vermont earlier today but when I logged in again the post was not up. Was it up then removed or did I screw up the original?
I resubmitted the post a few minutes ago. If the original post is still up or if the resubmission is inappropriate, please let me know.
Thanks for any feedback,
On a positive note:
The Bartonsville Bridge was replicated and has reopened:
My grandfather & his brother built this bridge! I have a photo of him & my grandmother standing on it. He & brother lived in Fluvanna, VA.
I believe it should be N&W, but am open for corrections.
I thought graffitti might be the appropriate paint job for Enochs Knob Road Bridge.....alas that one is not a success.
Cascade Bridge is still under review by FWHA DOT and SHPO. The engineer did not perform a site survey and they are checking to see if the previous inspection was sufficient. We lost that bid by 5000 because of the needed equipment to perform that site survey. Convinced that if they fixed the piers where the water is draining by changing the drain pattern this bridge would not be at risk. Perhaps a law suit of negligence against an entity that allows degradation to take place to get federal dollars would get their attention....
Springfield Bowstring is being worked on from a grant writing perspective after receiving scope and estimate from W'B. They had quite a lot of damage from tornado two years ago.
Long Shoals Bridge did receive permission to ove. FSBCRA is working on abutment design and building the park before the next phase of fundraising can take place for the move, restoration and reset.
LOL! That will do, but we better have enough for those who have fought to save the bridge but whose attempts fell on deaf ears of the county! ;-)
Re-discovered this bridge today, on a rainy day (YES!! RAINY in ARIZONA!!!) Sunday morning drive.
The bridge was (very) colorful.... as if its only purpose now is as a canvas for ill mannered juvinile gangsters. But the history of this bridge, it still could be felt... beneith all the tagging.
I couldnt help but to let my imagination take me back in time....to when the bridge was constructed. To the money, the plans, drafts, and hard work that men put into building this structure.
The Wagon Wheel Bridge near Boone appeared to have been open to pedestrians when I was there in July 2012. The deck was repaired as well.
Was this bridge built by the N&W RR or the Virginian RR? Also, do you how old it is?
The Old Rothrock Mill Bridge is now open as part of the Indian Creek Trail Hayswood section, pedestrain traffic only.
Here's hoping some fat cat cement company exec wrote a ck to the township for a replacement bridge and road upgrade.
Agreed. So how 'bout a Level A Hazmat suit? Will it be strong enough for the deep piles of... of... crud?
(Image from Kapper of a Zytron suit http://www.kappler.com/products/zytron_500.asp)
I know of at least one lost bridge that has a Street View image but no actual photos. If Google heads down this street again, the image will be lost. I have seen other websites save a static copy of the Street View image to protect against this. Perhaps that is worth doing here as well?
This makes me really sick! I think it's even too much for the toilet! ;-P
I think this is too much for the little brown barf bag...
Is the information on this bridge confirmed?
Just because it's listed in Wikipedia doesn't mean it's correct. This is the first I have heard of a Pratt Company. Thomas died in 1875...would presume his father Caleb died before that.
Is this the only bridge on this site actually built by the Pratt company?
how did you get to the south end? It was a nasty crawl down to the north end. Even as an experienced bridgehunter, it was pretty bad...
From google maps, I believe this bridge is now lost. I am going to check out some time this week :(
Have the "what's here" button highlight the counties like the "show counties" option did.
I was so glad when the deck was finally upgraded. I was terrified of this bridge as a child - the deck back then was slatted, and you could look down and see the river beneath you while waiting in line for the toll booth.
An intermittent tributary of Owens Creek does indeed run through the bridge.
The November pictures Steve took show that the drought this past summer appears to have dried up most, if not all of the water in the stream's channel.
Anonymous suggested "Reduce the volume of updates on the first page to new bridges only..." I like it! But I don't want to loose a place where I can see _all_ the updates. So leave "Updates > Recent updates", and have the home page show only new bridges. And I suppose a "new" bridge should be any bridge that is new to the site _plus_ one that is no longer just NBI data.
Joseph Hinson suggests folders, or sub-directories. This would indeed help manange the large quanity of images on some bridges. However, I have come to dislike the inflexibility of directories. For example, if there is a directory for "historic" and one for "detail" and one for "damage" - where would I put a historic detail photo of damages?
Therefore, I suggest using tags, or categories, instead of directories. Then as many as apply can be assigned to an image.
Here is my off the cuff list of categories:
Long range - pretty much the whole structure is in the frame
Medium range - not the whole structure, but a sub section. Like a portal brace
Detail - close range, say the rivet head bolts on the portal brace
Historic - from more than 50 years, or if the bridge was significantly different than it is now
Damage - Car through the railing. Lateral tie twisted and hanging
Repair - clearly not original. Concrete replacing coursed stone, a weld on a riveted bridge
Feature - something the editor considers noteworthy or significant
Substructure - Abutments, piers, and bents
Environment - Things around or near the bridge, but not actually the bridge
We could then go further and have one for each member. Diagonal, vertical, floor beam, ties, struts, spandrel, barrel, voussoir, parapet, etc. But I think that would be too much work and would be too fine-grained.
The page could load showing only the long range, or a random selection from each category. The visitor could then choose to view all, or only show images in the selected categories.
But I'm not a web developer, so I don't really know how much effort that would be to implement. :)
So a creek ran under this?
i go under the bridge it is amazing i used to ride over it but they built a new one they blocked the bridge because it is unstable do not go on it it is dangerous but it is very beautiful i live here still
listen i live right by the bridge and i have for 15 years it is a major place in my life they want to take it but i wont allow it
Was this a swing span? the south pier looks substantial enough to have once supported a rotation mechanism.
Do you have any suggestions for people who aren't editors to de-activate the Street's View?
It's Pennsylvania and its a metal truss bridge. You were expecting something other than being doomed?
I don't want to step on toes here but I think it is important to show what Ed is talking about with repetitious photos.
Look at photos 4&5; 9-13; 14&15; 17-19; 20&21; 29&30; 31-33. These appear to be where a camera is set to take multiple exposures and the photographer is simply uploading all his files instead of taking a few moments to weed out all of the near duplicates. There are a bunch of bridge pages with similar problems.
The person who took the last pics (43-60)didn't duplicate their photos. Although a couple were overexposed they were at least all different.
This bridge was ordered closed effectively immediately, and I guess also doomed.
This is a nice bridge. Sure, it is modern, but it is far more interesting than a slab or a MOB.
I used to use the bridge twice a day to avoid the speed traps that cave springs police set up in town. Now i just drive slower.
During the flood in the spring of 2011, the only bridge that was not under water was the Osage Creek Bridge. why not just build a bridge just west of it and use the old one as a fishing/foot/four-wheeler bridge. oh wait the cranky old man (who build his house in a flood plane) wouldn't like it and just might wave his gun at you.
How about a way to "vote" unworthy structures off the island. Similar to the 5 star rating, but a simple does it belong or not and if there is lets say a super majority of "not" they away it goes. At least this way it's a vote of bridge peers and not just a single opinion. However, it is James' site so he would ultimately have the final say.
If you do not want the street view there is a way of turning it off. If you have an editors account just adjust the setting to reduce the street view to a link as oppose to the full picture.
Once you are logged in click the "my settings" link under your name on the homepage.
In "my settings" scroll down and check hide under the "Show the Street View widget if available?"
I hope this helps with one of your requests.
Thanks for adding. I had forgotten about this bridge as well as the "Southern Railway" on the side of it. If I'm not mistaken, Spartanburg has three railroad companies with their names on bridges -- the Southern, Atlantic Coast Line and Clinchfield, neither of whom exist anymore!
On the photography side, when a bridge gets a lot of photographs, perhaps there could be folders for the pictures. I'm not entirely sure how this would work and it would take some work on either the person uploading or the site owner and admins. Albums could be "Wide View" "Detail Shot" "Historical Views," etc. etc. Mainly for the bridges with a lot of shots.
If the photographer could caption the shots, too, that would be great.
If you look at this link, the 3rd picture shows this bridge. These pictures were taken after the flood of 2007.
For future reference: the categories "rail-to-road" & "one lane traffic" have been added because, for a period in the mid-1960s, this bridge was pressed into service as a one lane road bridge whilst the highway 49 bridge was being rebuilt after being washed out. The bridge didn't have a guardrail, which made crossing somewhat hairy. This is where the common name, "No-Hands Bridge" came from.
I would like to see a way to order the photos in a more sense able, chronological fashion. When there are a large number of photos (100 plus) they should be put in a order which shows the history of the bridge. For instance the Moscow Indiana bridge has a very good photo history including it's reconstruction but the photos are all out of order. Second, and I don't know how this would get done but photos should be edited to some extent as too many repetitious and even just outright bad ( out of focus!) photos get posted and the site would be improved if photographers would ask them selfs 'What is important about this particular photo that is not already shown in an already posted photo.' if the answer is nothing than they should please refrain. If you just want to post every single photo you've taken use Flickr or Picasa.
I would suggest a few improvements that would be addition by subtraction:
--Reduce the volume of updates on the first page to new bridges only, rather than showing a listing every time someone makes a minor change in the data.
--Have the owner decide once and for all which bridges are worthy of being on here and which ones aren't, and also in what format all the data should appear. Then eliminate all of the comments of people telling each other what to do and how to do it from the Forum pages. Doing so would cut the number of pages significantly and make it much easier to read through older comments.
--Devise a way to make the Street Views optional. Nothing bogs down the reader's screen more than the pictures loading every time you go back and forth through the pages.
The website in the comment below is a very interesting read with more links. This tunnel was quite a feat.
Update. Mom and dad are now resting together. Still pass that spot on occasion, still have the thrill!!
Cool. Going to check that one out. Maybe, you never know....
Good bridges in my neck of the woods. Great find.
This appears to be one of the bridges MO DoT plans to replace over the next couple of years (this one being the more intersting one). Per this press release: http://www.modot.org/kansascity/major_projects/ManchesterBri...
Seems folks are getting a little fussy about those 111 photos, so I'm going to post some in the comments section again for safe measure. ;)
I do note how someone asked for a little more detail about the shot's, so I will do my best! Hope you enjoy these.
Shot #1 is a rarely seen view of the New River viaduct. In beautiful mid-morning sunlight it is pictured spanning in gorge in all its beauty.
Shot #2 shows the beginnings of the bridge taking shape in 1962. This is the first pillar going up. Shot from the south looking north.
Shot #3 is from the cab of the northbound Royal Palm as the photographer leans out the window. The bridge has been open less than 24 hours at this point.
Indeed Ed. In 2007 the City of Cincinnati earned $19 billion from the lease agreements, so I doubt they will be letting go of it anytime soon. The fact the city made that much off it and the line still rosters as NS' second most profitable on the entire 22,000 mile system is amazing. A true testament to how much importance this line holds.
Thanks! That's just what I was unable to remember! So, now, I combed through some other King bridges and sure enough this floorbeam appears to be a design they used on a number of bridges. So we can safely list this bridge as a King too.
This bridge (a King bowstring) comes to mind:
Makes me think of the Tom's Run Bridge in the park in Dayton, Ohio. At least they appear to be similar in concept.
I appreciate seeing this discussion. I have often felt that naming an ugly bridge for veterans does not reflect the depth and value of their sacrifice. It would seem I am not the only one with this opinion.
I agree the bridge appears very old. The critical detail doesn't show up real well because BridgeHunter shrinks images to 1600 pixels. I am attaching a crop of the photo showing just the floorbeam, with its distinctive paired channels with post-tensioning. I feel I have seen this detail somewhere else, I am just trying to think where.
Looks to be very light with rather small endposts. Might well date into the 1880's.
True Don... I saw that side view after I made my previous comment. Hard to tell what is original and what's not of the lower chord and floor system.
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This bridge is amazing at sunrise and in the winter!
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This bridge is full of positive messages. My favorite is the one that says "I've been saving smiles!" See more of my as I add them. This bridge is full of positive messages. See more from this graffiti bridge as I add them!
As a former veteran: Sonar Tech (SS) USS Narwhal SSN 671 and USS Jacksonville SSN 699, I speak against naming UCEB's in honor of vets. It is a dishonor, actually. If you really want to honor a vet by naming a bridge after him (them) then please find a bridge worthy of attention. Like this "Vets Mem. Bridge" in AL: http://bridgehunter.com/al/dale/pea-river/
Lets leave UCEBS for rednecks who want to use them to propose to their future spouses by spray painting their proposal questions on them.
The article refers to stringer beams having significant damage. At least that part is not 1896 design. The view from the water picture also shows substantial stringer beams.
So, Is this truly a truss bridge? Has it been rehabbed before adding stringers or maybe the truss structure was already used to decorate a stringer bridge?
I can't see it clearly in the pictures available. The rehab date is 1983.
At any rate, it looks to be kind of far from original already.
Thanks Matthew. I was hoping that nobody would misconstrue my post as being disrespectful to veterans - just disrespectful to UCEBs.
Also, I was one of the HSBs on this one!
2013 is fixing to be an nasty year for historic bridges. Here we have one of the oldest rivet-connected truss bridges in North America, abandoned, ready for restoration. Instead however, it is to be demolished and replaced with a pedestrian MOB.
I just wish they would have moved the pony to a park and kept it intact.