Here is a photo we took of this bridge last year on a color tour in the area.
Not a mention of who....Charles Walker senior engineer retired from TxDot...DCI (Davis Construction), BACH Steel and Cecil the painter.
Thanks for the recommendations. Getting one from close to there seems like a great idea. We meet in early December.
This image was taken sometime in the early 1940's. The bridge crossing at the top is the Argentine Boulevard Bridge, to the left you see some storage tanks, these are some of the tanks that took out the west end of the bridge in the flood of 1951. This image was found in the "Missouri Valley Collection" at the Kansas City Missouri Public Library.
Is this the bridge that a woman got trapped on when trespassing on railroad property?
Holy cow, that low hanging cable is an extreme danger to boaters.
This guy is going to be a father as of April, and of course I will be raising her in the ways of Bridgehunting....
The restoration won an award:
Nice pattern done with the leaves in the first photo (among others).
More good news for old truss bridge fans in 'Bama! This bridge is listed here as being lost, but Google Earth proves that the bridge was NOT torn down when the new one was built, and indeed still stands - quite abandoned - on the old alignment!
This is the second 'lost' bridge I've found so far still extant in north-central AL, and the Google Earth search continues for more.
You mentioned getting ideas about obtaining another truss bridge to go along with the BB Comer bridge, what about this one (http://bridgehunter.com/al/madison/16289/)? Its called the "Boat Dock Road Bridge" and it has been closed to traffic for a while. It is located just at the north end of the US 231 Tennessee River Bridge that goes into Huntsville, AL. That one, if whoever owns it will be willing to hand it over, seems to be a good bridge to use. Also, there are about 5 abandoned truss bridges in Lincoln County, TN over the Elk River just north of Huntsville that are available too.
Excellent news. Hope it keeps looking up.
The wall visible to the left is the remains of a late 1600's mill. The mill was destroyed when the road/bridge were widened and rehabbed in the 1890's.
Scudder Falls Bridge is scheduled to be replaced soon as it is a bottleneck on Interstate 95
Old 14 apparently came up out of the valley on the south end at 41.402318,-93.10378 .
This bridge was apparently near the lost community of Cordova.
Cordova's coordinates were 41.426879 -93.099360
Here's a .pdf of the lost towns (and ferries) of the Red Rock Reservoir.
Apparently, there is a book called "The best of Grace Karr's Cordova News". Perhaps Grace wrote about old hwy 14 in her columns?
These places that get inundated are fascinating. I hiked the valley where Brushy Creek Park is in Webster County just before they closed the dam gate and submerged everything. I remember a couple of small bridges & old cars were down there. Now they're under 40 ft of water.
Here is a photo taken on 10/20/13
Really great news from HRI Bridge today. They are willing to enter into discussions about utilizing the demolition funds that were already put into this third phase of the contract and use those for restoration and rethinking the area. This also means saving another truss bridge for use to get across the slough to the city road so we need ideas for what truss that should be. Working on an early December site visit which will result in a Scope and Estimate for preserving and maintaining this last very historic truss and for a new pedestrian crossing. And yes, it couldn't have happened with me and my team being able to help the friends group, and negotiate with all of the agencies and areas involved from ALDOT to the city / county and private companies. Here's to Nels at BACH, Jim at Schiffer and me, Julie at Workin' Bridges for finding a way, thinking out of the box and having the expertise to work on any size bridge.
Outstanding that more has been revealed and that was the "higher up's at HRI Bridge thought that this was a good idea. Can't wait to go back to Alabama.
MoDOT has posted that the new bridge has been opened.
I grew up in Lowell, Kansas, where this bridge is located. It was used as a trolley car bridge that used to run from Galena, Kansas to Treece, Kansas and down into Picher, Oklahoma. There are still two very impressive spans of this bridge left. One in Lowell and it's neighboring town of Baxter Springs. These will always be home to me. It was used to transport lead and zinc ore from Galena, Kansas to the Eagle Picher plant in Picher, Oklahoma.
I call this the Hawk bridge because there always seems to be An Eagle or Osprey flying around it....
bridge is still in use. Though a 18-wheeler hit it a few months ago.
iowans: stop submerging your bridges!
reminds me of the curtis bridge.
wow. that's all I have to say about this bridge. wow.
when was it torn down?
Indeed; looks like a Ford L-series or a Sterling hood.
Its probably one of those trucks with additional special railroad style wheels on it. Would love to own one.
Steve - you drove across the railroad bridge? Out of curiosity, what were you driving?
A freighter just unloaded road salts here in Hancock, MI a couple of weeks ago. I heard on the radio that that specific boat wouldn’t fit through the Portage Lake Bridge. Please, would you tell me why that is? Louie
Maybe the writer meant pin connected - 1930 would be getting a bit late for a pin connected bridge.
The portals are rather unique!
Already added: http://bridgehunter.com/md/baltimore-city/200000BC5217010/
Glad to see photographs on here. This bridge, along with perhaps 2-3 others in southeast Kansas have a rather interesting perforated portal bracing. I have not seen an exact match anywhere else.
So proud of yall that made this happen. I thought bridge was doomed to fall into the river at any time and be lost forever. Now about that Springfield - Des Arc bridge...
I'm not sure that this is the last simple truss built for a railroad at a new location. The Washington Blvd Bridge in Los Angeles County is a simple Pratt truss, and it was built in 2001 as part of a track re-alignment, so there was no bridge at the location previously.
I just went out here the other day. It was nice! Got to drive across the bridge too! FYI- There are thousands of wasps living in the ties!
Since the bridge is not on the State System, look to Greene County for possible rehab, not MoDOT
Its also a repainting project. Tried to rephotograph the bridge during the historic bridge weekend, but the containment wrap totally ruined my photos.
The riveted lattice portal bracing and the posts where a King Bridge sign will hang are the real clues to the background of this structure.
Everything thing that we have learned at NSRGA / Workin' Bridges in the last four years started with failing to understand the bowstring when it was dropped in my lap. It was listed with NRHP under the wrong name. That listing made us think we could find money to help. (No). Our lawyer didn't realize we needed a structure purchase agreement and a land lease which is key in how we approach work today. We started a nonprofit because we got ripped off by a Community Foundation for a percentage of every original donation, we charge only an hourly rate for administrative duties like acknowledgements to donors. We got liability on the land but not on the bridge and we continue to work with NTHP on the insurance's that are needed, with or without FEDERAL money being used. Maintenance is so little when these structures are restored, it is common sense, visual inspections, keeping tree and leaf debris at bay. We try to work without any federal money because of the restrictions imposed by a 20 year full replacement and most of the bridges we work with are county owned so they know better than to use federal money if at all possible. Except for Winneshiek County where they use the 80/20 all the time and just go through the process to tear down, Gilliece and Ft. Atkinson are next.
Because of our non-profit and consulting arms we are able to step in and empower local citizen groups. Those champions have the knowledge of the community to back up fundraising and I am the new girl in town that will listen to all of the stories. Because we are a non-profit and working with contractors we can find places where either volunteers or in-kind donations can be made, like the dirt work done on Old River Bridge Access today. These projects are expensive but we can do what we can to put the money where it counts.
Because of our previous experience we knew how to lead the supervisors in the direction we wanted them to go from the very first meeting (it took four in the end), and in this case, to use demolition funds for restoration. This county also has a private casino-based foundation that is dedicated to funding local endeavours and we just made the grant deadline on the day we purchased the bridge because the Supervisors called a Special Session to help us finish getting the signed agreements lawyered up. The Friends of Bunker Mill Bridge have embarked on a capital campaign to raise more matching funds and we were able to use the county money as a match That was key. I was also able to contact Allan King Sloan and their foundation donated to the capital campaign. This friends group had solid people that stood up and wanted to be part of the original board of directors. Marketing, managing, meeting landowners and working with supervisors and county engineer that wanted this bridge gone. For the friends board we used a Facebook closed group to get through most of the negotiations for easements, purchase and grant writing.
All of the opinions aside as to what kind of a person I am, it is my experience in construction, design and working with contractors and policy makers, that has brought this company to the place where we can help other groups today. Comer Bridge Foundation in Scottsboro and CRISP in Burlington have also chosen to work with us, because I never give up. It is those experiences that we are taking back to Poweshiek County as we rebrand Friends of Skunk River Bridge to help fund the final phase of our bowstring project.
Art, thanks for asking how we made a difference. I don't believe that when something is the truth it is out of bounds to celebrate it, and I will continue to post here as action happens. Just like it did yesterday when we filled in the trench around the approach abutment that was used to keep people away from their bridge. That work was done by a volunteer who just wanted to help for 5 hours and the cost of mobilization and diesel. We were all a little envious of the bulldozer as it cleared away the scrub close to the bridge so we can get in their and cut down larger trees that are too close to eyebars and such.
The signage and the motto will be "Don't be Stupid", you don't really want to own this bridge. Don't get sidetracked by all the chitter chatter by the anonymi, I don't.
Project moving forward. Historic truss spans available for purchase. If interested, click here for details:
St. Anthony Parkway Bridge to be replaced; historic truss spans for sale. Any takers, keep October 29th open and grab them! Info here: http://thebridgehunter.areavoices.com/2013/10/22/st-anthony-...
Fmiser, The Town Lattice portal bracing was coined some years back namely because the interwoven bracings resemble that of the truss bridge design. When it was first used is unclear... I'll check to make sure that the categories are correct.
As for the date of the arson, I'll have a look at it and make the correction. :-)
Thanks for the points! JS
Jason, thanks for the detailed essay. *smiles*
A couple comments. You refer to the lattice portal brace as a "Town lattice". I don't see a relationship between the portal brace and Town's design except they are both a lattice.
Next, you mention arson on 12 August - but not a year. That may be fine right now, but please presume this document won't change for dozens of years so a year would be nice.
Julie, and others,
I was saddened to read of the arson and plans to scrap the bridge - then heartened to read of it being saved. Thank you to all who put effort into saving the bridge _and_ documenting it (and all the other, not-so-high-profile bridges) on this website.
It seems to me the clashes are because the involved people are passionate. And while I would rather not see cat fights, I would much rather have a few folks with a passion for bridges who occasional bicker than to have many hundreds who don't really care.
But it's not my website, and I'm not really even a big contributor, so my opinion is probably not worth more than the space it takes up on your screen. :)
Art, Julie was/is being adamant (haughtily so) that "King Bridge Co." should be the ONLY thing in the builder's section (Even though it's the ONLY logical place for the pertinent information to go as the website's design currently stands. She's also demanding that James add new boxes IMMEDIATELY instead of waiting for the ANNUAL site updates early next year.).
Jason, myself and several others (Some of whom I consulted with in private on this matter.) are in disagreement with that notion.
My grandmother lived between this bridge and the other one (RR) listed here in a house no longer there. Now my aunt lives in a house sitting on the old roadbed, how weird. The bridge had sides until it was salvaged for sure. I used to throw rocks off this bridge in the 1950's. it was the Rock Island from when I went there in mid 50's until it went bankrupt. Hope this helps.
First off, congratulations to Julie and everyone else involved in rescuing the bridge! Everything else is secondary.
That said, I'm curious how the bridge was saved, apparently so quickly. Were groups already in place that brought Julie in or did Julie organize the groups? What was Julie's role in relation to the groups and the government? Which group accepted the liability and how were they able to demonstrate they had the wherewithal to accept the liability? Was it a simple matter of getting insurance? If so, how much did it cost and who paid? Who is heading up the fundraising and how big is the group Of people writing the proposals?
Julie, what did you learn from the difficulty you encountered in your bowstring that made things flow so smoothly here? Was this due to prior legwork or your doing?
Also, I don't understand the discussion regarding the builder. Is Julie saying that King built the bridge and others were involved in various repairs, while others are saying that multiple builders built the bridge or are the positions different than this?
A second odd thing on this one. How does one remove the trusses while leaving the deck in place?
Got the King Bridge sign on it. I don't care really about the other bits so much. Who the salesman was or who rehabbed it when. Remember there was nothing but a steel mark when i started researching this bridge we now own. Earth moved. Approach open.
Went to the river and was surprised to see construction going on. Apparently it's just a new bumper to keep river traffic from hitting the pier.
Sorry about poor image quality.
Was finally able to get back to see the culvert. I have uploaded the photos.
Actually MPA was the correct reporting mark, but if Ma & Pa is preferred, than that's OK.
Julie, you cannot make changes when the information that has been posted on there is correct. If you do not believe me, I will send you a pdf copy which will show that I am indeed in the right on this one. King Bridge Company was not the only one that built this GD bridge.
Passionate. Bragging. Those are judgements I cant care about. Knowing that the information is skewed I cant do anything about. Dealing with name calling has been juvenile and again a waste of time.
We are starting to save more bridges. Not only will I market the team I will sing their praises. This is hard work and its taken years to start winning.
Bragging rights when they are due. And certainly still want changes to database to give builders rights to the one with the sign. KING IRON BRIDGE CO. CLEVELAND O.
Hi Don, while I am not the one going by Greek names, etc., I do want to make a point that Julie's project is very exciting and I do appreciate the passion she puts in. However one needs to control their feelings when posting here. Taking pride in a project or a bridge being restored for future use is one thing. Bragging about a victory or being a control freak over what information should (or should not) go in should not be in there. This not only applies to the events of a couple weekends ago but also for all posts, esp. as this website is not ours to own but ours to post as long as the webmaster sees it as appropriate. My two cents on this topic.
I can't fault Julie for being excited about preserving an historic bridge. She's pretty passionate about it and obviously puts a lot of effort into the task of saving these bridges against the realities of time, weather and limited funds that endanger them.
I do politely request that individuals express their serious opinions under their name, and save anonymous posting for ancient Greeks and dead bridge builders, and other humorous posts. Not so much that I want to know your name, but I really can't take someone seriously if they post acrimoniously behind a pseudonym.
This bridge appears to be correctly positioned, although it no longer exists. It was a pony truss over North Turkey Foot Creek, not South TFC or Little TFC.
The pictures are incorrect, probably they should be on the Precht bridge page.
Everybody hates a winner.
The only thing that matters is another King Bridge save. And standing behind one's name with truth. I got everything.
Just can't stop being FULL of yourself, can you lady?
I do like seeing historic bridges saved, but I totally don't care for someone who thinks they are better than anyone else. You act as if nobody else besides yourself is capable of helping a group do this, well guess again! I would have no problem giving you some credit if you didn't already give yourself more than you deserve.
Try being a little humble and not quite so self-absorbed!
If bridge crosses Turkey Foot Creek, it would have to be south of the Maumee River. TR 8c/T F Creek is near Shunk, OH about7-8 Mi S. of where map indicates, off SR109.
Tomorrow we fill in trenches and begin the task of restoring the site for the King Bridge to come back to life. The friends, with the support of NSRGA and Workin' Bridges, and our ability to work with a multi cultural community, got a real boost from our expertise. This would not have happened so quickly without all of us. Old River Bridge Access is.
Btw that would be MS. HIGH and Mighty to you anonymous.
This bridge is no longer carrying traffic.
Safer? Apparently they're still working to sell the "need" to replace.
I have to dispute the dates regarding this bridge. It suffered supposedly catastrophic damage in the March 1997 flood and sat closed for some time. I have pictures dated 11-97 with it still closed and others dated 2-98 with it under demolition with only 2 spans remaining. Regardless, a sad loss for the bridge community.
i guess longer than last year!
Tuesday, June 21, 2011
(Mamakating) – Sullivan County Manager David Fanslau has announced that the Sullivan County Division of Public Works is closing a portion of Larson Road, Town Highway 71, in the Town of Mamakating, to permanently close County Bridge 9. County Bridge 9 is located approximately 2.4 miles north east of the Village of Bloomingburg. This section of Larson Road, Town Highway 71, is scheduled to be closed to all traffic starting 10:00 AM, Wednesday, June 22, 2011 and will remain closed permanently.
This bridge has been closed since last summer, no idea when it will be open again.
FYI for anybody who might be interested...
Part of my background was in heavy equipment demolition, specifically rail equipment. That company folded a few years ago, but last winter the former owner was working with some investors and attempting to get another scrap company going. Besides rail equipment, he was also looking at getting into bridge demolition, so I brought this bridge to his attention as a possible candidate.
He called Tyson several times inquiring about the bridge but could never get them to give him a straight answer as to what their intentions for it were. That being said, anybody who is interested in seeing this bridge re-used for trail usage in the future should take heart from this. Whatever Tyson has planned for this bridge's future, they don't seem to be in a big hurry to sell it off and have it torn down.
Now I know that some of you might be shocked or offended that somebody who contributes to this website might seek to be part of a historic bridge's destruction, but before you have a stroke at your keyboard, please consider: While I don't get into the nuts and bolts, so to speak, of bridge type or history like many of you do, I do enjoy looking at them or photographing them from time to time. However, I'm also a realist. Not every bridge ever built can be saved, and many of them are going to have to come down at some time.
While I would have regretted seeing it come down, I personally would have jumped at the chance to take part in its demolition if the opportunity would have arrived. It is simply the nature of the beast. I am a passionate railfan, but that didn't stop me from destroying numerous old locomotives when the job called for it. The Rock Island will always be my favorite railroad, and this bridge is one of the major pieces of its legacy still standing in SE Iowa. Personally, I am glad that it seems to be safe for now and hopefully it will become part of the Hoover Trail. Time will tell.
I have heard reports in the past that this bridge will be removed, with the intersection becoming an at-grade crossing with a traffic signal because the of the low clearance.
It has been replaced by a concrete bridge that was also replaced again by another concrete bridge. its the bridge that crosses walnut creek heading into the main part of the town.Look up in the banner graphic reelsville bridge
I can decode the white sign next to the bridge. The 182-4 refers to highway 182, section 4. The center of this bridge is 1.05 miles from the beginning of section 4.
There appear to be two entries for this bridge.
There was an issue of the Looking Glass magazine in the late '70s or early '80s with a picture of this bridge.
I found an old county atlas showing a rail crossing there, but nothing saying CB&Q, so I didn't change the coordinates. It also shows the "High Bridge" that predated the Winona Bridge.
I agree with Don, those look like the right coordinates....
Tis a shame this beauty of a bridge is gone. I would have loved to see it.
Anyone else think that the proper coordinates of this bridge were 44.044831,-91.60642 ?
It's good they're keeping the old bridge. In MN, it's somewhat rare to see an old bridge and a new bridge side by side. The last old/newer bridge combo I can recall was the I-94 bridge over the St. Croix river that lasted till the mid-90's when the old bridge was demolished.
That's a beauty!
MnDOT project page:
Sounds like they want a two bridge solution here, with a new girder bridge taking some of the load off this historic bridge. http://www.dot.state.mn.us/d6/projects/winonabridge/docs/ea....
Yes, go ahead and correct them for me, I do not mind as long as I retain credit for them (not that it is really a big deal). I only recently learned how to use the scanner, and cannot really correct colors anyway since I am colorblind. Thanks for adding the street view -- it now reminded me on how I found the bridge in the first place (after all it was over twenty years ago).
Thank you for your input. Local residents such as yourself are critical for the process of saving this bridge. Although Kansas has several WPA stone arch bridges, this is one of the most significant. I have connections with KSHS and I will send them an e-mail. Hopefully we can save this bridge at the proverbial 11th hour.
This bridge was heavily damaged by flooding in early August 2013. It is being considered for repair or replacement by Miller County and FEMA.
This bridge has been replaced.
Yes, this bridge has been replaced and moved to the Cainsville Community Building located at 605 Louise Street, Cainsville, MO
No the house is abandoned according to local records.
My family owns the land adjacent to the bridge, where I grew up and had sight of the bridge from our house. It is a shame that the Rush and Russell county commissioners have nothing but $ signs in mind when considering what to do about bridge repairs. The commissioners have been dinking around for over 1 and 1/2 years in their lack of addressing the issue. Our family even offered to fund a portion of the cost differential to repair the bridge as opposed to replacing it. This offer is in addition to the substantial taxes that our family pays to the county each year. I'll bet the decision would be far different if any of the commissioners lived near, or had to use the bridge. My family is very much in favor of repair as opposed to replace. Please reconsider and lets keep this beautiful and historic bridge in place.
This bridge is a Scherzer type years ago I came across this photo the Iron lift bridge and shows this bridge was demolished.
This bridge has undergone a rehabilitation and is now open to traffic again
Its most likely a training area, as its an operational army base.
Thanks for those photos!!
Regarding the color, that can be corrected. Since you didn't specifically mention a license for your photos, they are "all rights reserved" so I can't lawfully edit them.
However, begging your forgiveness, I took the profile image and tweaked the colors. I have attached a small version of it. If you give me permission, I'll adjust the other similarly and get them to you for yourself and so you could update the ones on the website.
Based on the photo added, this is not a lenticular and is just a parker truss... and also has had load-bearing stringers added under it.
The oxygen issue likely isn't an issue for this tunnel since it is apparently open to the public... they wouldn't do that if there was a hazard. My guess is that with both ends open fresh air can get in. I would be more considered with a tunnel that had one end blocked up. The oxygen issues I have heard about usually involve things like storm drain tunnels or vehicular tunnels open to traffic (which have ventilation fans installed).
I am glad that KAKE has picked up the story. They have a large viewership in the greater Wichita area. The Topeka Capitol Journal also had a story about it. Now maybe the Lawrence Journal World or Kansas City Star could give it a mention, especially if it gets picked up by the A.P.
This is ridiculous that they are pushing to demolish an historic bridge that serves a meager 40 ADT...
Acquire a small bit of land next to it, then put in a low water crossing and call it a day! Simple solution that saves a piece of history as well as taxpayer $$$... Might not sit well with their contractor buddies however!
Corrected location to near CR 400 and Avenue A as appears on images.
It is not unusual for bridge details to get confused in news reports. Often times the main span length seems to get swapped for total length or vice-versa. Sometimes a rehab date also gets listed as the build date. This can be most unfortunate if it leads the public to believe the bridge is much newer than it really is.
There is now talk of preserving another bridge in exchanged for this one being demolished. Problem is, the other bridge is smaller, newer and considerably less significant (not that I would not want to see it preserved as well).