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Posted March 29, 2015, by Ian Martin

This is a fixed-span bridge; the drawbridge in the drawings is further north. I've created an entry for it here: http://bridgehunter.com/nh/belknap/bh66787/

Posted March 29, 2015, by Chuck Johnson (Chasjohn2001 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

I rode my motorcycle across this bridge back in 1975~76. Yes, it is very tall, and very long. I don't think I would do it today.

Prim Bridge (Arkansas)
Posted March 29, 2015, by RW (omrewi [at] yahoo [dot] com)

The black and white photos make it somewhat difficult to see the details of these photos and this beautiful bridge. Are there any color photos available to post of this?

Posted March 29, 2015, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Here are two others made to the same design by the same suppliers:

http://bridgehunter.com/ny/schuyler/watkins-glen/

http://bridgehunter.com/pa/berks/scarlets-mill/

US17 NB Bridge (North Carolina)
Posted March 28, 2015, by Margot

Steel stringers don't really do much for me, but that is an incredibly cool picture.

Posted March 28, 2015, by Janna

Bridge is closed currently. (3-28-2015)

Posted March 28, 2015, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Found!

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/bethlehem/mc-bethlehem-histo...

Been in long term storage, to be reused in Bethlehem, PA!

Regards,

Art S.

Posted March 28, 2015, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

A roof truss :)

Posted March 28, 2015, by James McCray (jamesinslocomb [at] yahoo [dot] com)

What kind of truss is this?

Posted March 28, 2015, by Buster Brasfield (bbjb93 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Our family tradition was "every time" while driving under the bridge you were to lick your finger and while touching the ceiling of the vehicle the driver would honk the horn then you would stick your finger out the window to dry while making a wish. I taught this to my kids as well.

Posted March 28, 2015, by Douglas A Clark (dgls44 [at] gmail [dot] com)

The original bridge was demolished and the current bridge was built in 2006.

Posted March 28, 2015, by Wes Gade (wes [dot] gade [at] gmail [dot] com)

Please check out the Facebook page dedicated to saving this bridge.

https://m.facebook.com/SaveWaverlyGreenBridge

Posted March 28, 2015, by Marc (twentysixwheeeler [at] msn [dot] com)
Posted March 28, 2015, by Mark Brewer (mbrewer17 [at] juno [dot] com)

The Road is Tom Ware Road

Posted March 28, 2015, by Mark Brewer (mbrewer17 [at] juno [dot] com)

The road is Tom Ware Road

UP - Zoo Truss (Wisconsin)
Posted March 27, 2015, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Awesome! I'm actually in Rockford, Illinois this weekend, but I wish I could see the structure currently.

It's a good step. I found documents obline several months ago stating that bridge is significant in the light that it reinvented the type of truss (quadrangler lattice). Will post when back on home computer.

Posted March 27, 2015, by James Norwood

Had quite the surprise today while on the way to Auburn when I passed this bridge both sections were removed and sitting in different areas along US 24 intact. I didn't have time to get a picture due to caravanning with another vehicle but did take the time to look this up when I got home this evening. Apparently it is to be rehabilitated to increase it's capacity from 3 tons to 15 tons and then reassembled and put back into place this summer. Read here for more

http://www.huntingtoncountytab.com/community/32178/dismantli...

For future reference in case paper takes story down here it is.....

Dismantling of Rangeline Road bridge starting soon

Monday, March 9, 2015 8:15 AM

Twenty years of trying to decide what to do with the Rangeline Road bridge came to an end on Monday, March 2, with preparations to dismantle the structure.

The bridge, which carries Rangeline Road over the Wabash River at U.S.-24, was closed last Monday and is expected to re-open to traffic by the end of October, says Troy Hostetler, superintendent of the Huntington County Highway Department. However, contractors have until the end of December to finish their work.

The two-span camelback bridge was built in 1913 and was named to the National Register of Historic Places in 1998. For two decades, Huntington County officials have been trying to decide what to do with the deteriorating structure, finally deciding on rehabilitation.

Hostetler says the bridge’s steel trusses will be dismantled, with each piece of steel numbered and taken to Warsaw for repairs as needed. A new deck will be built for the bridge, increasing the weight limit from three tons to 15 tons. Once repairs to the steel pieces are completed, they will be returned — probably in August — and reassembled. The trusses are integral to the structure of the bridge, Hostetler says.

Construction costs are expected to total about $2 million, added to between $300,000 and $500,000 in engineering costs. Federal funds will cover about 80 percent of the costs, Hostetler says.

River Road will remain open throughout the construction. The official detour is on CR 200N.

RE: Cast Iron Columns
Posted March 27, 2015, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Two quick things about built up tubular wrought iron columns: There were a number of designs including those by Reznor and Moseley. There were a number of derivatives of the Phoenix and Keystone columns. To me the easiest way to tell them apart is the cross section of the Phoenix Column has arced or curved sections between the riveted planes whereas the Keystone columns has angular sections. Also, where Keystone columns were used as straight compression members, they often opened up in the middle with spacers - on Whipple Trusses, this allowed some tension members to pass through the column!

Also, the two designs were close enough that there was a patent infringement suit between the two companies in the early 1870's.

Regards,

Art S.

UP - Zoo Truss (Wisconsin)
Posted March 27, 2015, by Matt Lohry

John,

Well, there may be a glimmer of hope, and you may be right after all! I drove by the bridge this afternoon, and the old bridge over the interstate has been demolished, but this one is still standing...and, theyve graded up to the portal to the old truss, and what looks like a loop-shaped ramp from the trail below to the bridge deck is beginning to take shape. I'm keeping a close eye on this, and my fingers crossed! I'll provide updates. This would be a major victory for historic bridge enthusiasts as well as this area!

Fallston Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 27, 2015, by Anonymous

A resident had started a petition to reopen this bridge.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/keep-the-fallston-bridge-...

Posted March 27, 2015, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Historic Bridge Inventory info attached. Apparently, there is a possibility that this is a tied arch. I don't normally think of that... the concept of having a deck arch being tied. Usually tied arches are through arches.

Attachment #1 (application/pdf; 85,561 bytes)

Posted March 27, 2015, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This bridge may receive weekly inspections due to severe corrosion. Salt has been applied to the approaches, and tires have carried the salt onto the grate deck where it accumulated on the deck truss.

http://cjonline.com/news/2015-03-26/holes-willard-bridge-flo...

With a length of just under 2,300 feet, this bridge approaches, and in a few cases exceeds, the length of some of the older Missouri and Ohio River bridges.

RE: Cast Iron Columns
Posted March 27, 2015, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Looks like Nathan beat me to it.

Photo 1 shows Phoenix columns well

http://bridgehunter.com/va/bland/bh44847/

Photo 10 shows a Keystone column

http://bridgehunter.com/ia/winneshiek/gilliece/

Posted March 26, 2015, by Robby Fisher (daisyfisf [at] Gmail [dot] com)

The new bridge is not called Fulton street bridge it is called the purple heart memorial bridge

Posted March 26, 2015, by John Prouty (Johncprouty [at] aol [dot] com)

I grew up spending summers in Swanton and LOVED that bridge. I always thought they should've rebuilt it. I really wished that someone would have spent more time in discovering, and punishing, the culprits responsible!

Posted March 26, 2015, by Jeff Laughlin (jeff [dot] laughlin [at] gmail [dot] com)

Just talked to a contractor inspecting the bridge today... They said it's been deemed unsound and the train is no longer allowed to cross it. They were assessing the damage. They said they wanted the job of fixing it.

An Introduction to Historic Bridges
Posted March 26, 2015, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

The question about columns prompted me to make some updates to my guide, an Introduction to Historic Bridges. Notable Changes include:

Expansion of metal arch section, continuous vs true hinged cantilever trusses, Phoenix and Keystone columns, variations for Lattice trusses (triple and quadruple), lenticular trusses, Bailey trusses, super-elevation.

http://www.historicbridges.org/info/intro/index.htm

RE: Cast Iron Columns
Posted March 25, 2015, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

They are wrought iron, rather than cast iron. Patented by their respective builders.

See this and following pages for Phoenix, typical rolled and built-up shapes:

https://archive.org/stream/usefulinformatio00phoe#page/28/mo...

And Patent: http://www.historicbridges.org/pennsylvania/walnut/patent.pd...

Keystone Sections: Page 5 of this: http://www.historicbridges.org/truss/mead/drawing.pdf

Figure 5 Here:

https://archive.org/stream/ajr3428.0001.001.umich.edu#page/6...

And see attached for photos of each.

Attachment #1 (application/pdf; 372,671 bytes)

RE: Cast Iron Columns
Posted March 25, 2015, by Robert Elder

Phoenix columns have more of a rounded appearance, but Keystone columns are more square looking. I will post a couple links when I am on the computer.

Posted March 25, 2015, by Dave King (DKinghawkfan [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Another bridge that still shows up in NBI and Google imagery. I don't think this bridge has been replaced.

Cast Iron Columns
Posted March 25, 2015, by Barry (bllauver [at] toad [dot] net)

What is the difference between a Phoenix Column and a Keystone Column, besides manufacturer.

Posted March 25, 2015, by Luke

That's because the Wiscotta bridge was relocated from its original location to Adel as a pedestrian bridge in 1996.

Posted March 25, 2015, by Karen Sleeuwenhoek (mdirks [at] iowatelecom [dot] net)

This bridge is still closed March 25,2015. The County says they have contacted the IAIS Railroad about getting it replaced but the RR is doing nothing to rebuild or fix this bridge and arguing whether they are the ones to fix or replace it. We are searching for answers to history and proof of RR ownership .Also history of when this road was established.Was the road established before the railroad ? We have a photo in the Centennial Grinnell Book that shows a possible previous bridge that existed here before present bridge.The caption calls it "the old overhead bridge crossing the Rock Island rr west of town." It says the pictured bridge burned down. No dates are given . Please help us dig for information if possible. We need traffic to this bridge and road restored.

Posted March 25, 2015, by LYNN ERICKSON (verickson [at] mediacombb [dot] net)

The bridge shown in the pictures for Wiscotta bridge. Is the bridge over the raccoon river in Adel, iowa. Not South of Redfield.

Posted March 24, 2015, by Gene Perkins (gperky68 [at] hotmail [dot] com)

This old stone arch was sold to me for $2 in 1992 by the Elk County Commissioners as part of the deal to site a new and wider bridge upstream from the old bridge on my land. The state of Kansas had this bridge listed to be torn down and replaced, however with the new bridge situated upstream about a hundred yards, the old bridge did not have to be torn down. The unused road and bridge portion was, as is customary in these cases, returned to the adjacent land owner(s).

The bridge is still functional, but too narrow for a lot of the agriculture equipment of the present. Back in the mid 1960s one neighbor bought self propelled hay swather and it was too wide to fit through the bridge railing which was made of very large stone rocks. He did go to the Road Dept and tried to get them to put about a foot or two of dirt and gravel over the old bridge driving surface. If they had done that, the new swather would have cleared the stone railing easily. Too bad they did not do that because then the neighbor took a crowbar and pryed two layers of the very large bridge stones off into the creek below. These stones broke up badly when the hit the rock bottom below.

Posted March 24, 2015, by K. Allen Ballard (speedeeprint [at] gmail [dot] com)

Probably been closed since last year.

Posted March 24, 2015, by Weber Baker (weberbaker [at] gmail [dot] com)

Can anyone tell me how this creek has the (I assume nickname) WL Baker ditch?

Weber Baker

weberbaker(at)gmail.com

Red Bridge (Connecticut)
Posted March 24, 2015, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)
Eads Bridge (Missouri)
Posted March 24, 2015, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

“I have haunted the river every night lately, where I could get a look at the bridge by moonlight. It is indeed a structure of perfection and beauty unsurpassable, and I never tire of it.”

- Walt Whitman’s quote about the Eads Bridge

Mead Avenue Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 24, 2015, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

The 1871 structure has been disassembled with intent to restore and reuse elsewhere. The 1871 components are on shore with only the 20th century components still over the water.

During disassembly, it was noted that the tolerances and material quality of the castings is extraordinary. Also, two cast structural elements were installed in the wrong position and modified on site to compensate! To me these new facts lend further credence to the theory that Keystone manufactured the entire superstructure and Penn erected it.

Posted March 24, 2015, by Royce Haley (roycehaley111 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

They are. The categories also have it listed as a 7-panel and a 10 panel

Royce

Posted March 24, 2015, by Mark Milat (mmilat2000 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Is it just my imagination, or are those two pictures of different bridges?

Posted March 24, 2015, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Nathan,

I was mostly joking. They are significantly reworking the crossing and approaches while preserving the historic bridge. The problem is when using this as a reference, the cost may scare others away. I think a better number to use is the incremental cost increase of preserving the bridge.

Regards,

Art S.

Posted March 24, 2015, by Robby fisher (daisyfisf [at] gmail [dot] com)

I don't have a picture of the old bridge

Posted March 24, 2015, by Robby fisher (daisyfisf [at] gmail [dot] com)

I don't have a picture of the old bridge

Posted March 24, 2015, by Robby fisher (daisyfisf [at] gmail [dot] com)

Neither picture 3 or 4 depicts the old Fulton street bridge it was a vertical lift bridge but it had 3 spans the Alexandria span the main span and the pineville span and two towers

Posted March 24, 2015, by Robby fisher (daisyfisf [at] gmail [dot] com)

You have the status wrong the Murray street bridge was demolished and replaced by the gillis long Jackson street bridge

Posted March 24, 2015, by Robby fisher (daisyfisf [at] gmail [dot] com)

The OK Allen bridge officially closed on Tuesday march 17,2015 and is currently being demolished. Traffic is now moving on the north bound two lane new bridge

Posted March 24, 2015, by Will Truax (Bridgewright [at] gmail [dot] com)

Flooring is currently undergoing replacement -

http://www.wbko.com/home/headlines/Repairs-Temporarily-Close...

Posted March 23, 2015, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Art: A few clarifications. First, this is a rehabilitation, not a restoration. Second, the project includes construction of a NEW one-lane bridge (including superstructure and abutments) next to the historic bridge. Third, this will require substantial work to the approaching roadway to accommodate the one-way couplet configuration. Fourth, this project includes the replacement of the existing abutments for the truss with a revolutionary hammerhead abutment design that increases the available space for railroad tracks under the bridge, while not requiring the truss itself to be lengthened. Fifth, this is a DOT bid project, and so like any DOT project you can expect higher per-foot costs, plus costs for DOT oddities... one VDOT project I evaluated included an on-site office trailer to be provided... cost of site trailer: $70,000.

So as you can see, taking all of this into account, you can see how you get up to this project cost, and why the project is a lot more expensive than say, just as a random example, the cost for a historic bridge restoration specialist to restore a 137 foot truss bridge in a non-DOT setting.

I maintain that this is one of the best examples of Section 106 I have ever been involved with, and the solution for this bridge is one of the most creative I have encountered. If all projects involving historic trusses were approached with the open mind and creativity of this project, we would have a lot more success stories in this country.

Posted March 23, 2015, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Good news! The company that owned the truck that damaged the bridge is paying $245K for causing the damage!:

http://powersource.post-gazette.com/local/south/2015/03/23/W...

Posted March 23, 2015, by Anonymous

Closed due to damage from a car crash. Fortunately they plan on repairing it!

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/north/2015/03/23/Historic-...

Posted March 23, 2015, by Luke

NBI says 2011 for the replacement.

Posted March 23, 2015, by A Ploessl (andrew [dot] ploessl [at] gmail [dot] com)

If you look at the satellite view of the map, you can see a string of cars on the tracks direct south of the bridge...

Posted March 23, 2015, by Jeff Anderson (andersonj [at] franklinschools [dot] org)

THE bridge is no more. It has been completely taken down and a new bridge is currently being constructed just 100 yds.west.

Posted March 22, 2015, by Adam Moss (richardpetty43 [at] msn [dot] com)

The new bridge is in place as of 3/21/15. I attached a photo.

Posted March 22, 2015, by George Andrews (5775gfa [at] gmail [dot] com)

One of my favorite places to be and thought I'd share a photo. 5 frames stitched together.

Posted March 22, 2015, by George Andrews (5775gfa [at] gmail [dot] com)

I bike across this bridge regularly and what it is not showing are the concrete K-rails on either side of the bridge that have been in place for some time now. Even the Park Patrol Officers can only cross on bike although although the 4 wheel version is visible 24 hours a day.

Posted March 22, 2015, by Joe Woods (fatboyjoe1956 [at] aol [dot] com)

I crossed the bridge on March 6, 2015 after a snowstorm. I met an 18-wheeler at mid point. The bridge was shaking, the road was covered partially with black ice, and I was a bit nervous. Suddenly when I got off the bridge, here's one going over the Ohio River. I had never been here before.

Posted March 22, 2015, by Jeff Cornelius (baldwinloco [at] netscape [dot] net)

Also in the HAER!

RE Michigan Ave Bridge
Posted March 22, 2015, by Royce Haley (roycehaley111 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Thanks Luke. I fixed the bridge. I didn't look that far down cause the NBI had it listed 1.2 miles away from that location but the info fits.

Royce

Re abandoned bridges
Posted March 22, 2015, by Anonymous

Patrick,

Rest area was my other thought because of the way the bridges and other pavement were aligned. Thank you for your help

Royce

Posted March 22, 2015, by Walter Laughlin (laughlin [dot] robert [at] gmail [dot] com)

Correct length is 258'

Posted March 22, 2015, by Elliott Johnson (elliottsgon15 [at] hotmail [dot] com)

a pickup truck damaged the guardrail on one of the north approach spans and will have the bridge closed until further notice.

http://www.sj-r.com/article/20150315/NEWS/150319665/0/SEARCH

re: Abandoned Bridges
Posted March 22, 2015, by Pafrick Feller (nakrnsm [at] aol [dot] com)

Royce,

A lot goes on in that expanded median. There's an Old 90 bridge nearby, but there was once a really nice roadside park there, first between east and westbound 90, and, if I remember correctly, between east and westbound I-10, until it waa decided that access via the left Interstate lane was problematic. Those two bridges were part of the park and were improved before they were abandoned.

Excuse typos. This is on my i-phone.

Patrick

RE: Michigan Avenue Bridge
Posted March 21, 2015, by Luke

I think bridge 002611 in the 2008 NBI is the info for the linked bridge.

Michigan Avenue Bridge
Posted March 21, 2015, by Royce and Bobette Haley (roycehaley111 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

http://bridgehunter.com/al/mobile/michigan-avenue/

Hello Jared Mixson

Looks like you may have imported the wrong data for this bridge. It appears you imported data from a plate girder RR bridge about 2 miles away. Anyway, I Added the RR bridge and tried to fix the bridge you have posted but it was replaced in 2012 and I cant find any data for the bridge before this current one. So at this point the page is completely wrong. Anyone help here with data to fix the page?

Royce

Abandoned Bridges
Posted March 21, 2015, by Royce and Bobette Haley (roycehaley111 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Hey Patrick,

Was wondering if you have any thoughts on the two abandoned bridges right as you are coming into Brookshire from the west. They are both over kellner creek and they are both in the median between the east and west bound lanes of IH 10. They don't appear that old. Looks like they might have been previous bridges for IH 10 that were maybe to low? But I think the IH 10 bridges were built in '67 and these look newer. Cant find anything on them. Appreciate the help.

Royce

RE: big bridge projects
Posted March 21, 2015, by Robert Elder

Hi Duarte. Occasionally new large river crossings will be posted here, especially if the new bridge will replace a historic one. Individual states often post construction projects on their websites. This means one has to check a lot of individual websites, but one can often find a lot of information that way.

Posted March 20, 2015, by Don Morrison

Thanks for the information correcting my guess.

I see that Luke has added a couple bridges in the region where Follow's Camp was, on the East Fork. I see an existing bridge a short distance downriver from where Luke placed the pins. That bridge is not listed yet. Any info on that?

Posted March 20, 2015, by Anonymous (tillerman61 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Old Bridge is now gone. Replaced in 2014.

Posted March 20, 2015, by Anonymous (tillerman61 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Bridge is now being used again as part of new outer road for US 63. Bridge is scheduled for replacement in 2016.

Posted March 20, 2015, by Anonymous (tillerman61 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Bridge scheduled for replacement in 2016.

Posted March 20, 2015, by Anonymous (tillerman61 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Bridge is doomed. To be replaced in 2015.

Posted March 20, 2015, by Bobby Duncan (Bobduncan [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This is not the Follows Camp bridge or the Bridge to Nowhere. Both of those bridges are several miles upstream in the San Gabriel Canyon. This is an unnamed bridge that was used for gravel trucks hauling between the Azusa Rock quarry in Fish Canyon and the Vulcan gravel pit on the other side of the river.

Big bridges to be
Posted March 20, 2015, by Duarte (duarte [dot] geraldes [at] berd [dot] eu)

Hi everyone,

Thank you for such a repository of information... I am European but believe you folks have more heritage gathered here then anyone in EU.

I write to ask the bridge experts where can new projects for big bridges, classifiable as "Major Crossings" could be found, is there any site of bridges to be?

Thanks a million,

D

Posted March 20, 2015, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

as per an article printed in the reading eagle on 3-20-15 the cumru township commissioners have authorized stv engineering to prepare and advertise bids for the repair of this bridge which required by penndot will maintain the 5 ton weight limit.

Posted March 19, 2015, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Lucky for Ohio this bridge collapsed due to an accident. Now when they replace the bridge (which was already slated for replacement prior to accident) Ohio won't have to be subjected to my originally planned narrative that this bridge was in like-new condition and replacing it was the dumbest investment in Ohio since Michigan gave Ohio the Toledo strip in return for the iron and copper-rich Upper Peninsula.

Posted March 19, 2015, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] kknite [dot] com)

$5.77M to restore a 5 panel pin connected truss! I predict that they will be gold plating it to prevent corrosion.

Posted March 19, 2015, by ArtS (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)
Posted March 19, 2015, by Robert Elder

Let's see...endpost gone, portal bracing contorted, vertical bent, counter bent, bridge still stood...

Posted March 19, 2015, by Sandor Gulyas (sgulya1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

According to the Morrow County Historical Society, this bridge was originally located near the Morrow County Fairgrounds, in Mt. Gilead, and later moved to this location in Peru Twp.

Posted March 19, 2015, by Sandor Gulyas (sgulya1 [at] gmail [dot] com)
Posted March 19, 2015, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

Is wood railing common/interesting enough for a category? I often see it on wood stringer humpback railroad overpasses and some of the park bridges out west.

Posted March 19, 2015, by Matt Lohry

I'm not sure who put the concrete balustrade category in there, as Photo #2 plainly shows wood rot where the horizontal rail beams connect to the post, and Photo #1 shows wood grain texture and heavy moss, which normally doesn't grow to this extent on concrete. My vote is wood for sure.

Posted March 19, 2015, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This bridge does not look like a 1969 bridge, but instead could have been relocated. Evidence cited is the fact the bridge is a Baltimore design, as opposed to a warren design In addition it lacks punch-plate diagonals, typical of railroad truss bridges of the 1960s and 70s.

re: Inaccurate Information
Posted March 19, 2015, by Patrick Feller (nakrnsm [at] aol [dot] com)

Two cents more:

I share your concerns about inaccurate information, especially based on uneducated undocumented guesses. Sometimes the Forum can be helpful but too often that thrown dart location remains or a bridge is found that may or may not be it and is assigned the task of covering it.

A word of caution, though, concerning locations for abandoned bridges or bridges for which only traces remain: Very often a bridge will be on a rail or road right-of-way that has been abandoned so long that it won't show up on "What's here?" and takes some extra research. Some of the historic rail atlases are great in those cases.

Posted March 19, 2015, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

I'm thinking W.E.Bailey Cont. on the plaque means contractor. I created a builder category in that name but if that's not correct we can delete it.

re: Innacurate Information
Posted March 19, 2015, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

+1 for Nathan's comment with the added thought that you can put a link to your source in the "Sources" section.

If I can come up with a better guess about location I will move a pin and note in the description that the location is a guess based on 'xx'.

Some of the NBI locations are off by as much as a couple of hundred yards and that's a routine fix putting the pin closer to the actual location.

People may question your change, even get hurt feelings, but a simple, rational explanation of your reasoning will usually draw out other voices and lead to a consensus on the best information.

re: Inaccurate Information
Posted March 19, 2015, by Royce and Bobette Haley (roycehaley111 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Nathan,

Good advice and I have made simple changes using that manner. However, I have been going through trying to replace some of my not so good pics with better pics as I take them and during this process I have noticed a couple of pages that have the wrong pics (pics of another bridge) and a couple of pages that just don't have a bridge near where it says there is one. For instance there is a page that lists a RR bridge and not only is there not a bridge anywhere near it there isn't a RR either. Seems it was probably an error where they put the pin. How would we go about effecting change in those instances?

Royce

Penn Street Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 19, 2015, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

as of an article printed in the reading eagle on 3-19-15 work on this bridge will not start until repairs are completed on the buttonwood street bridge.this bridge will not be closed during the work being performed but will have lane restrictions.also an entrance ramp from route 422 west will be closed.

Posted March 19, 2015, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

as of an article printed in the reading eagle on 3-19-15 repairs on this bridge will begin in may 2015 closing the bridge for 2 years.red tape held up the start.

Posted March 19, 2015, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

as of an article printed in the reading eagle 3-19-15 work is still going on with this bridge due to winter work restrictions and discrepancies due to the deck concrete being thicker than detailed on original plans.

Posted March 19, 2015, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

as of an article printed in the reading eagle 3-19-15 work has been completed on this bridge which consisted of steel bracing.

Posted March 19, 2015, by Robert milks (robert [at] robertmilks [dot] com)

The bridge is being dismantled.

Posted March 18, 2015, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

1970 would make sense based on the design and style of the bridge. The only thing I could see in the posted photos that might date to 1884 is one of the abutments shown is stone. But the piers are all concrete. Maybe there is stone inside... but that's about the best that could be hoped for... again based on available posted photos.

Posted March 18, 2015, by Jason Smith (flensburg [dot] bridgehunter [dot] av [at] googlemail [dot] com)

Great news there! When are they planning to set it in place? Where on the bike trail? I plan to post an update on the Chronicles on this bridge so any information would be much appreciated. Thanks! :-)

JS

Posted March 18, 2015, by James Baughn (webmaster [at] bridgehunter [dot] com)

From what I can tell, the bridge was reconstructed in 1970. I'm not sure how much of the original 1884 structure is left.

re: Inaccurate Information
Posted March 18, 2015, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Royce: My two cents worth... if its something obvious, you know what it should be... and you can fix it yourself by editing the page, go ahead and make the fix yourself, and note that you corrected the page in the updates box. If its something less obvious, or something that people might wonder about... as long as you are confident on your facts... make the change yourself in this case too... but consider also posting a forum note on the bridge's page to discuss the change and maybe note your source. That's basically what I do.

Posted March 18, 2015, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

There is absolutely no way on earth (or any other planet) that this bridge was built in 1884. Looks like a 50s or 60s bridge to me.


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