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Its known as the pumpkin seed bridge, It was built in 1886 by the berlin Iron bridge company, its actually a old road bridge instead.
http://www.camptonhistorical.org/Livermore%20Falls%20marker%20flyer.pdf
Here is a link to better photo of the bridge
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000f5ZClp6DPm0/s/700/550/SC103851.jpg
Allyson-- The survey marker is placed by the Coast and Geodetic Survey. They maintain a network of these throughout the country to aid in surveying. Some are fairly involved groups of related markers, others like this one are probably individual marks useful for local surveying. Despite being shown on the topo map, I can't find this one in the current database of "published" marks, so it may not be considered trustworthy.
It was quite a sight looking down to the bridge and the valley below it...very scenic.
correction to original post "above *sea level"
This is actually my family's property, I grew up on the land. My family (Hodapp's) still own the property. I remember the day the bridge was closed. I was very young maybe 6, which would be the early 90s. There are two houses that sit close to the bridge both with the name Hodapp, that is where the Hodapp Bridge name generated. I am curious if you know if the plaque on the bridge from the US Geolocigical Survey means anything specific or if it just states the above see level facts?
This bridge was subjected to arson several years back. It was already abandoned at that time though.
Link to video
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=da4_1330287043
Video shows abandoned unique deck truss bridge. Likely crossing Pemigewasset River in Grafton County, New Hampshire. A survey of satellite photos suggest such a bridge might be located just North of Plymouth near the Southern border of Livermore Falls State Forest. Local information would be very useful.
Smith's Crossing Bailey bridge front view
Smith's Crossing,Bailey bridge
I have photos of them lowering the cantilever span. Did not get to see any of the detonations
I'd only seen the tops of the old span after it had been detonated from the current bridge back in 82 and had assumed the old bridge was like the old center pier movable bridge at Utica.
I'm surprised that the bridge was that new when it was replaced.
Hey Tony,
so many bridges, so little time. and difficult to plan for. Your knowledge of Indiana is huge.
Just in my little neck of the woods in Iowa, hour drives we have the Kent Park, the Whipple's over the Des Moines River in Mahaska County, Jones County. the Winnieshiek County area is a little further but on the way back east for sure, then the Mississippi and all of the bridges that Luke has been adding.
so if you want to do it in Iowa, I know Jason wants to wait a year, it might be less expensive to hub out of a central area and do daily road trips. You could do that in Indiana as well.
Just thinking, cuz I think too much....
J
Good luck with donations Nathan. In all my years I have only seen one donation come from this site, not that I am complaining. That is why we started Workin' Bridges, so we didn't have to ask for donations. This is also a bridge that I have been trying to find another home for with BACH Steel. Oh it gets so complicated with bridges.
The Tridge a walking bridge that crosses the Tittabawassee and Chippewa river.Redwood arch.Between Currie and where Benson was located.Further upstream is Smiths Crossing Bridge,or as it is in Bridgehunter Tittabawassee River bridge
People used to swim at Currie I think 1920.River was wider,had beaches,filled in to make roadway.
Benson Street bridge Flood 1912?
Benson Street bridge Joliet Iron works 1908 downriver from Currie.Removed 1979.
A whipple truss Built 1908 across the Tittabawassee river
Luke,
This is a skewed, riveted Pratt through truss--the Pratt trusses have only verticals and diagonals that angle toward the center of the span. Most longer Pratt trusses have inner panels that contain diagonals that angle in both directions (to form an "X") for strength, but in general, the inner-angling diagonals with verticals are typical of Pratts.
So, what type of truss is this?
The road commission fully supports having this bridge removed by preservationists. I would have had this bridge out except I need about $4000 to do it. Donations accepted.
Bridge has been spiffed up in the last couple of years.
This bridge is near the SW corner of the county. C-84 is south of OH-161. It's not a very long road since it's a very short distance to the next county.
Photo is from 3/25/07. The bridge is now closed to traffic.
we would really like a picture of what the arches look like today! please! is it haunted?
This little bridge has been a warrior despite it distorted appearance. I really wish the county highway commission would work to have this span lifted off it's crumbling abutments and set to the side until a new home can be found.
If it falls in the drink the damage might not be repairable.
March 30 2011
Feb picture 2012
Currie Parkway "Upper bridge"
This shows the arch that really is the bridge now.
More pictures
There are a bunch of pictures posted Matt Mazan (occasionally his name is not attached to the comment, but they are definitely his) in the comments for bridges in Des Moines (such as the abandoned railroad bridge) that would be awesome if they could be uploaded.
I believe this location is on Converse Rd, just west of the junction with Currier Rd. If that is correct, there is definitely no 1939 steel arch bridge present.
This bridge shows that in the mid 1990s cantalievered bridges were still being built, such as this one and two in West Virgina. Even though this design is more expensive and cannot be widened, it is extremely monumental. Although there is one being constructed between Indiana and Kentucky, I don't much approve of it replacing an unusual type of bridge and wish the situation was handled differently. A cantalievered through truss can still be built even in this day.
Neat four tower cantaliever truss in the middle of the flats.
I have come upon a group of photos of a bridge under construction during the period 3/1914 and 4/1915. Union Bridge and Construction Co, Contracting Engineers, Kansas City, Missouri. Mats and dock for piers are in many of the pics.One photo refers to Caisson #6 and #7 & KY fill. I assume that would be Kentucky. Given the date, contractor and location do you have any idea what bridge this could be? Thanks for your time in advance,
Ken Corkey
Swansboro,NC
I know Tony, it's been so great to watch all of the action. And to document it. It's an impressive job by all and music to my eyes and ears. Wait for the party. Charles Walker said it's going almost perfectly, he is the TxDOT engineer responsible for the design and is very passionate about his work.
Regarding the conference in Indiana, I'm sure you will come up with a ton of great bridges to go see and view. There is an historic roads conference in Indianapolis in July that I have presented an abstract for, haven't heard back yet, but it will be on saving bridges on roads that have little traffic and alternative routes being an economic boon.
We could rent a bus and save all some money if gas prices go that high.
Currie park way 2011
flood of 1979
The Prickett Trail Bridge was sold to David and Candace Roberts. It is now reset over the same creek (Tallasseehatchee Creek), less than 1 mile from its original location. Photo was taken Dec. 25, 2010 in it's new location, in Wellington, AL.
I'd assume that it still exists.
Because the comment that refers to it in the past tense is in 07, and the most recent (the one with the side view) is from 2010.
If I can get down to Fort Madison (or out of bed in general) over spring break I'll have to check it out.
I just wish they wouldn't narrow these trusses when they convert them to pedestrian use. It's like the bridge width has to match that of the trail, when in reality a wider and more historically accurate span is more appealing.
I nearly got a photo and video of this bride being raised. The barge just stopped west of the Kit Bond Bridge. I was wondering if anybody knows if their is a horn on the bridge to let people know it is being raised?
The restored Piano Bridge, music to my...eyes!
I am the person doing the planning for the Indiana Historic Bridge Conference.
My initial idea was to have an aggressive tour of the Hoosier state that started in the North (Fort Wayne area and it's 4 Whipple trusses) and meandered South. Idea stops could include Carroll County, West Central Indiana (Hendricks, Putnam, and Parke Counties), Southeast Indiana (Rush, Decatur, and Franklin Counties) as well as Dearborn County and it's incomparable Triple Whipple. There are also many possibilities for Southern Indiana including Jackson County and the Medora Bridge, Warrick County, Orange County, and the Louisville area with the nearby Portersville Bridge.
I was planning on Friday through Sunday with Monday as an optional day. Rising gas prices might well play a role in just how much of this is a reality. Certainly the state could be divided into North and South and split over 2 years if this would help improve possible attendance. I would certainly entertain all comments and suggestions.
Whether it happens this year or next, I hope to make the Indiana Conference one that everybody will remember.
news....green hardhat and vest....
Sorry Jason, but this bridge is gone....
Thanks for sharing the bridge though!!!
Definitely a Whipple truss.
Is it still in existence? A comment on one of the Flickr photos referred to it in the past tense.
I spent my summers at Cottage Farm on Big River. Crossing this bridge was always a treat. This before then new Hwy B bridge was built. I'm glad to see it is still servicing trafic, albeit pedestrian traffic!!
Almost 60 years have passed and our family still has reunions at Cottage Farm. The drive there is not complete without visiting this beautiful scene on Big River.
I would call it a Whipple Truss.
NY state officials are contemplating the idea of converting the current Tappan Zee Bridge into a pedestrian walkway after it’s highway bridge replacement is built.
By PETER APPLEBOME
Published: February 22, 2012
It seemed quixotic at first, but maybe the idea of turning the Tappan Zee Bridge into a walkway after a new bridge is built is not so far fetched after all.
State officials said Wednesday that they were exploring the possibility of turning the three-mile-long bridge into a route for pedestrians and bicyclists along the lines of the High Line on the West Side of Manhattan, or the equally successful Walkway Over the Hudson linking Poughkeepsie and Highland.
Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and aides said at a cabinet meeting in Albany that it would cost $150 million to demolish the existing bridge, which carries the New York State Thruway, so turning it into a walkway connecting Rockland and Westchester Counties was worth exploring.
“Could you leave it up, and what are the economics and the practicalities of that?” Mr. Cuomo said at the meeting. “It’s an exciting option.”
After more than 10 years of study, building a new bridge finally seemed to reach critical mass last fall when it was one of 14 projects chosen by the Obama administration for expedited federal review and approval — possibly allowing work on a new $5 billion bridge to begin as early as spring 2013. The bridge is 56 years old — 6 years past its anticipated life span — and needs $50 million in maintenance and repairs annually.
After the project was announced, the idea of preserving the old bridge was raised by Paul Feiner, the Greenburgh town supervisor, who proposed a walkway. The idea immediately gained support from biking and pedestrian groups. In January, the newly formed Tappan Bridge Park Alliance said that a walkway “would generate economic and community development to the region by providing a world-class destination and a much needed open space in the congested Lower Hudson Valley.”
So, based on the image in the link (even though it isn't a whole shot of the bridge), what type of truss would this likely be?
Here's a bridge that we can all make a subject of jokes!
Its the "Chuck Norris" Bridge!
Follow this link and read the article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/23/slovaks-bridge-chuck-norris
Dear Nathan,
I understand that you are the one primarily in charge of planning for this year's Bridgehunter Conference. I understand from the webmaster (Mr. James B.) that it will be somewhere in IN.
I do not know if it is too late to suggest anything, but I am from the Louisville, KY/Southern Indiana area and would like to submit to you the idea that I can get you a conference center for cheap here in Louisville, KY if you are interested.
The Louisville/Southern IN area is alive with historic bridges and historic bridge events and if you would like a place to hold the conference this would be an ideal place. Or if you have another location in IN that you plan on having it could it be possible to have it here at some point in your schedule?
Anyway, just to suggest,
James McCray
The folks who put the plaque on the railing need to fix the builder name--they put "Columbus Bridge Company" rather than "Columbia Bridge Works" on it.
Attached is a picture which is believed to be East Tracy OH during construction in 1936, received from my great uncle who is likely to have been employed as carpenter at the bridge construction. Bridge engineers of Tracy has confirmed that the picture is consistent with East Tracy OH. The boy on the picture is my great uncle's step son. Incidentally, East Tracy is in advance stage of being replaced, full documentary including pictures and maps can be downloaded from this web site: http://ci.tracy.ca.us/documents/11th_St_Bridge_Draft.pdf
Borje Lundvall, Karlstad, Sweden
The bridge has a nice fresh looking paint job on it. Looks very different now, as it's red!
I used the old Bend Road Bridge as a pleasurable shortcut on many trips home from a job I had in Indiana. I took pictures of it with a film camera but sadly never got the roll developed. Just before it was replaced, I recall it got extremely bumpy to drive across.
Does anybody have pictures of the old bridge? Or does HAER have any? I've always been curious about how big the old bridge was.
Here are some shots of the Gallman Road Bridge from 18 February 2012
This bridge is actually ex CNW.
And this bridge can be accessed by walking down the tracks...
The bridge apparently used to carry the trolley system for Burlington at one point (Refer to the postcard I've linked to the page)
My stuff will be done this summer or I will be done this summer. There is just no sustainability to what we are doing and I'm getting tired.
Hi Julie,
As much as I would support your idea, it looks like the majority would like to have the 2012 conference in Indiana for time and logistic reasons; especially given the spike in gas prices and the threat that the $5/gallon level will be reached. It appears Nathan Holth might be spearheading the efforts there. But I've advocated having the conference in Iowa in 2013 as I will definitely be in the US at that time. Perhaps we can put your idea in (and it will help you garner up some more funding and support for the event.)
Just a short FYI there.
Hi James,
I would like to lobby for Iowa to be the next scene of the bridgehunters conference and here is why. Workin' Bridges is planning a "CRAFTSMAN'S WORKSHOP - REBUILDING A BOWSTRING BRIDGE" in Grinnell, Iowa. The bridge to be repaired will be our bowstring. We have the location, the old airport, some equipment and welders. We are starting the planning now as to dates and could work around the conference. Grinnell has some great places to have a dinner and of course you all could get some hands on riveting, welding, pack rust removal, etc.
We are looking for apprentice and certified welders who want to learn more about working with old iron on a real project with a real result - the reassembly and reset of the bowstring.
Just my input. We can work around your dates.
Julie
If there is any consolation, I did pick up a couple pieces of the bridge when I was there in 2010 so it's not all lost. ;-) Here is my column on the bridge with a couple small FYIs for your interest:
http://thebridgehunter.areavoices.com/2012/02/23/fort-steuben-bridge-comes-down-bridge-parts-saved/
Well, they took pictures before they replaced it.
In response to the TRUSS Award winners, I've compiled my picks with some comments about it. One of the bridges (the Murray), I'm pursuing to see if the county will reconsider its plans to replace the structure.
Enjoy! :-)
Sad indeed! The pier is still standing. Maybe the abutment eroded away? Must have been in really poor shape to collapse on its own.
Happened to notice this evening that this bridge has been heavily damaged on the East end in a manner that suggests it had been run into. The Southern truss had been bent outward to something approaching 45 degrees and extending to almost the middle of the bridge, while the Northern truss had been bent towards the South but at a lesser angle. Did see the road was blocked off by a large gravel pile, but didn't see any heavy equipment. Would have turned around and got pics but the car was throwing a fit so I considered it better to keep moving while I could. Unfortunately it will probably be gone by the time I can get back that way next week.
Not me. Just the video girl. But I have some great video. Workin' Bridges is is looking for welders for a workshop in iowa to train on how to work with these bridges.....
Looking good Jules!
Can't wait to see the finished product!!
Another piece of history gone...depressing!
Never have been able to get the specifics of what happened to this rare bridge...very disappointing.
Wow! That's sad. I'm glad I got to see it before the rest of it fell.
Larry, in pic#37, were you actually standing on the bridge?
Its extremely disappointing that this bridge is gone, but just wanted to share this photo that I edited.
How high is the bridge above the riverbed?
The bridge collapsed in February of 2012.
Bridge reset today....
Yeah, I am sure we could do that for you Luke. Thanks for finding the bridges. I did not always know how to identify them all when I started bridgehunting either.
With regards to the question about when the decking was removed from the bridge, I can tell you that it was sometime in 1964-1965.
Prior to that...there was some amount of decking, but it was rotted and missing to a large degree.
Vehicular traffic would not have been possible. I do not know what year the bridge was closed/condemned, only that it was not in use in 1963 when we moved to Independence.
When the bridge still had decking it was possible (if you dared)...to walk across the span... if you stayed near the outside edge.
After removal of the decking, you had to "Shinny" over the top of the bows. As kids...we did this to get to the other side of the river. Not the smartest thing.
Thankfully no one was hurt though, but this pedestrian bridge cable snafu managed to snarl the bridge traffic, an expressway and a light rail line. Talk about a triple-lutz of failure.
OK, watching the demolition video at regular speed is distressing enough, but watching the slow motion portion is truly heartbreaking. The slow motion allows you to see every little explosion as it happens on each place on the bridge--it's like watching a helpless animal get put down. I've seen that plenty of times growing up--not a pleasant experience at all. R.I.P, old friend; your replacement will join you 20 years from now!
After the depressing demolition of Fort Steuben Bridge, I needed some news like this to cheer me up! The bridge next to the former Fort Steuben Bridge is also a cable-stayed bridge and it has deteriorated at a remarkable rate. Worse, a ways south on the Ohio River, the Pomeroy Mason Bridge's replacement cable-stayed bridge failed to earn a full 9/9 on its initial bridge inspection, conducted before the bridge was open to traffic. They don't build bridges like they used to!
Oh, the wonders of modern, quality cable-stayed engineering! Couldn't see THIS one coming a million miles away! They fritter all the design funds into attempting (and I use the word lightly!!) to make a new bridge look spectacular, but they forget to add reliability and longevity into the equation! Oh--and, this bridge is, what...barely 5 years old?? They could have rehabbed the remaining three spans of the old Broadway Street Bridge (demolished in the mid '80's) and not only would it have looked a hundred times better than this thing, that one would have easily lasted ANOTHER 100-plus years without batting an eyebar!
The topmost cable on the east side of this bridge snapped this past Sunday & the bridge is currently closed to pedestrian/bike traffic. The bridge had just been inspected in October 2011 & passed with flying colors.
Yes, and J.A.L. Waddell is turning over in his grave at the idea that this structure is called a "truss bridge" and Ralph Modjeski is turning over in his grave at the idea that this "thing" is even called a bridge and was designed by people calling themselves "engineers".
Official ODOT demolition video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVNM8LFVzUE
WARNING: This video contains scenes of wanton and gratuitous violence toward historic bridges. Viewer discretion is advised. Historic bridges were harmed in the making of this video.
Also note the official statement from ODOT in the description of the video: "When ODOT's not out plowing snow or repairing the roads we also enjoy blowing up old bridges."
Its hard to argue with that statement, but its interesting to see an official ODOT statement that essentially says they enjoy destroying historic bridges.
I've passed by that bridge a number of times, yet I've never stopped for a closer look.
The Pratt brothers are rolling in their graves right about now. This is a new bridge type--a "Modern Pratt Wannabe".
Very heavy two-span, pin-connected Pratt--very nice indeed!
Good golly, filled TWO little brown barf bags with this news--and my stomach still doesn't feel any better! Glad there's plenty of room in the Ohio River for me to hurl into!
There are actually two truss bridges side by side here--the westernmost bridge is a larger subdivided Warren through truss, while the eastern one is a Pratt.
I spent many a childood summer here with my brother and father. While I don't look at this bridge with the same midset bridge enthusiasts do, I can't help but remember those days. I remember when a neighboring farmer unwisely drove to heavy a load over her and destroyed her; so I thought at the time, however it may be also why they closed the road and allowed the bridge to remain to this day. Strange how things work out and how a mind can change. God Bless
So I've uploaded a bunch of bridges recently, and since I do not know how to differentiate bridge types, someone should go identify them. Danke schon bitte.
There is an old abandoned bridge with grass growing over it and a 8" cedar tree growing on one corner at Blue Creek and Pine Road West of St Peters about one mile.
The bridge is still there as of 02/21/2012. It did not wash away. Carroll County has purchased the property on the west side of the river and will incorporate the remains of the bridge into a new 400+ acre park.
Whatever type of pony truss this is, I particularly enjoy it.
Okay, I like that idea...cheers to you Mr. Harden!
You can still post, it's just that posting EVERYTHING in caps is rather annoying.
Just post the MODERNE/NON HISTORIQUE in caps.
Cheers
OKAY I PROMISE NOT TO POST AGAIN (AT LEAST I WILL TRY). I THINK PEOPLE NOW KNOW THAT I HATE MOBS...MY MESSAGE HAS GOTTEN THROUGH...
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