And a Non-historic one at that!
It appears we have a pedestrian bridge.
It appears we have a pedestrian bridge.
It must therefore be a pedestrian pedestrian bridge.
Looks like recent inspections have forced KDOT to close the bridge. I have updated the description to reflect that. Story here: http://www.jeffcountynews.com/2013/04/kdot-forces-county-to-shut-down-two-bridges/
Drove out there today and the bridge is now closed to all traffic with siginifcant concrete deteriation to base of the bridge deck.
Does anyone know if Wood County is looking to restore or tear down this bridge?
i live and grew up around here this bridge closed in 1998 due to unsafe conditions in 1996 the bridge was restricted to one-lane, one-way traffic
I visited this bridge for the first time today and posted some of my cell phone photos on Facebook here.
Latest and Final update.I paid a visit to the bridge today on 4-26-2013. The bridge is 100% completely gone.No trusses left only concrete supports.It is a lost bridge now.
I had the pleasure of driving across this bridge once. A few years later (2002), I canoed past its wreckage in the creek bed. Has anyone yet salvaged the metal? It was very much visible from the road.
This is a correction of my last comment, which after I reread it was ridiculous. I meant to say that this trestle was about 100 ft. longer than Shuffle Creek Trestle, not Tulip. There is an extensive article on the Laughery Creek Viaduct at http://www.borhs.org/sentinel/sentinel2010Q20510.pdf .
Perhaps the crank bit was a mount for a USGS gauge?
I wish I had taken some photos of this bridge when it was in it's last months of use. I had just moved to the area in 1991 and found this bridge and the infamous hairpin curve on the other side of the river while exploring the area one Friday evening that Summer. I swear it still had a yellow stop sign at the curve, and those were phased out in the early '50's I think... a real time-warp kind of place.
When thought of as a late 19th century, pre-auto era installation (1899), the grade crossing of the railroad and then turning parallel to the canal to rise in altitude makes more sense, because that thing wasn't built for anything longer than a horse drawn wagon. I'll bet even horse drawn wagons had a helluva time meeting at that curve! I wonder if a 1958 Cadillac could have made the corner even without oncoming traffic! See the www.historicaerials.com site for the aerial view from 1946 in particular. It is an especially clear overhead photo that shows the way it used to be.
Here's a slight update on the HB Weekend in Iowa: http://thebridgehunter.areavoices.com/2013/04/02/
The venues and speakers are set. Now to find out who will all be attending. Please let me know if you are interested in coming to the four-day event so that I can provide you with some information on the bridges to visit and the people who will be speaking at the event. Thanks and looking forward to seeing you there! :-D
The Wells Street Bridge will be closed to CTA rail traffic again for 10 days, starting after the evening rush hour on April 26, 2013, for replacement of the outer half of the north leaf with a fairly exact replica that was prefabricated off site at Bubbly Creek and floated here on a barge. Chicago Transit Authority web site: http://www.transitchicago.com/wellsbridge/
The outer half of the south leaf was already replaced several weeks ago.
And don't worry, Jack Wooten, this is a good historically sensitive rehab/restoration, not a demolition. When done, the only way you will be able to tell which are the new or old parts of the truss structure will be the use of bolts on the new sections instead of rivets. They're intending it to last another 90 years. Look at the videos and photos.
Any bridge fans who can make it to the Chicago Loop April 27-May 5 should come watch, and photograph, this remarkable project underway. The best vantage points will be along West Wacker Drive. Work will be underway 24 hours/day on a precise schedule.
The data pages for this bridge at this time are not digitized. I got the LOC to send me the data pages however. I am attaching to this post.
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Here`s a Bridgehunter`s Chronicles`question for the forum regarding this bridge: As bridge replacement seems inevitable, the trusses are salvageable. The question is, do we save one of them and let the rest be scrap or reuse them either for bike trails, rural roads or both. Read the article and tell us what you think.....
Ridiculous. The bridge already has been made into a one-way couplet. It is sufficient for existing traffic as a result. It appears Section 106 Review will be required. I believe feasible and prudent alternatives to replacement exist.
Another vintage photo: https://dspace.njstatelib.org/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10929/21887/Stony.jpg?sequence=1
Here is an old postcard of the bridge: http://pudl.princeton.edu/sheetreader.php?obj=5425k979t
My mistake, it was built in 1792. I'm pretty sure this bridge also replaced a wooden bridge burned by George Washington's troops during the revolution.
The image the comes up in street view is the Quaker Road bridge, this bridge/intersection are literally feet from the correct bridge. If street view pans to the right, you see the actual bridge.
This is the bridge: http://www.seocom.com/stan/njprnctn1.html
IDOT wants to replace the Quincy Memorial bridge with a brand new bridge, and will soon begin the first phase of a replacement study for a future bridge, though it may not be until the end of the decade until they actually get around to building it since the first phase of this study is just beginning.
This is the original Quincy Memorial bridge that was built between 1928-30 and serves east-bound US-24 across the Mississippi to Quincy, IL.
There’s also a newer 2 lane cable stay bridge built in the 1980s that serves US-24 west-bound that will at some point be paired with the future bridge.
I guess this comes as no surprise to people on this forum since they also want to replace the US-54 Champ Clark bridge at Louisiana, MO too.
"Illinois will spend $2.24 billion on highway projects in the coming year, including $1 million as the first phase of work to replace Quincy Memorial Bridge. "
"IDOT Deputy Director Roger Driskell said the initial $1 million to prepare for replacement of the Quincy Memorial Bridge will involve environmental work and design studies. Another $2.5 million is in the highway program through 2019.
"We'll hire a consultant and then we'll have a two- or three-year study," Driskell said.
The bridge is more than 80 years old and has been on a priority list for replacement."
This bridge was built in 1797.
This bridge was built in 1797 as a replacement for a wooden bridge burned by George Washington's troops during the revolution.
This bridge is a rotating two track railroad bridge. The motion was necessary because of the Delaware & Raritan Canal.
The Mine Road bridge was restored in summer of 2011. It was one of very few bridges over Stony Brook that was not washed out as a result of Hurricane Irene.
Here is a picture of the bridge prior to widening
Here is a picture showing it's current width:
Here is a picture of the bridge prior to widening
Oh yeah, this bridge can be seen in the opening sequence of the 'House' TV series.
This is the Washington Road (Rt. 571) bridge. It is one of two bridges over Carnegie lake built by Andrew Carnegie when he had Carnegie Lake (Lock Carnegie) created for Princeton University's crew team in 1906. It is reenforced cast concrete four span arch bridge with stone facing It was originally a single lane and was widened in the 1930's.
The other bridge, the Harrison Street Bridge, a spectacular four span iron arch bridge built at the same time as the Washington Road Bridge was torn down 20+ years ago.
The replacement is a steel bridge that is a modern interpretation of the original.
The pictures you have of the Dumas Bridge is also of the Copeland Creek Bridge at Chamblee Mill Creek.
The pictures that is posted on the Copeland Creek Bridge are from the west side view then the Dumas Bridge photos are of Copeland Creek Bridge from the east side.
I will try to go to the Dumas Bridge soon for some photos of it. I have never heard of Dumas bridge until this site but grew up going to the Chamblee Mill bridge.
Also how would I find more information of a bridge the was on Philpot Rd Hayden going over the Mulberry to County Road 509 Hanceville?
I have always heard about it and would like to know more about it.
This bridge is about a quarter mile from my property:
It is located in Hopewell Township (Titusville), Mercer County, NJ.
Note that it is an 1890 Variety Iron Works pony truss. The bridge is in very poor condition and has been closed for years but, to the best of my knowledge, it is not in any danger of washing away or demolition.
Thank you for posting your pictures.
There is a picture of the east portal of this old bridge in 4/24/13 State Journal-Register, Springfield's newspaper. It is showing the sandbagging being done in 1943 for the "big flood". It is a "file" picture from the SJ-R.
This bridge is presently being replaced.
Follow the railpictures.net link for some interesting views of this bridge. In 2004, a CSX train was passing over when a pier gave way and nearly brought two spans of the bridge down. Union Pacific had to scramble to stabilize and repair the bridge with the train still stuck on it.
20k is peanuts in government spending! It can cost that much to get a consultant to write a letter saying the bridge is too far gone to repair.
This is pre-1923, but if you search this text for Pan-American Bridge Company you will turn up a few tidbits. http://books.google.com/books?id=AjEUAAAAYAAJ&dq=Pan-American%20Bridge%20Company%20New%20Castle&pg=PA1662#v=onepage&q=Pan-American%20Bridge%20Company%20New%20Castle&f=false I unfortunately don't have a lot of info on this company aside from that it was in operation as early as 1903, maybe earlier.
I am researching a book on a man whose brother, like the entire family, was a bridge builder. This man came to USA in 1923 to work at the Pan American Bridge Building company of Indiana in New Castle. I am trying to find out anything about this company. Who owned it. If it went bust (probably) and especially when.
If anyone knows of a way of researching companies in the USA in the period 1923 to 1927 I would be interested in hearing from them. It seems this period of USA history leading up to the great depression was thrown out with the trash. Nothing seems to be kept over there.
Any help would be appreciated.
I was at Charlton Mill bridge today and was stupified to see this beautiful bridge had been demolished. So i ask myself..."why was this done? Green county recieved almost $20,000.00 dollars in federal grants to "repair" this historical bridge. This is quite discearning, so what happened to those funds?
The demolition of this bridge and replacement with a slab of concrete is deeply disappointing. Even though its not physically connected to the Golden Gate Bridge, it is part of the Golden Gate Bridge project. For proof of this you need not look further than the main plaque for the Golden Gate Bridge, which lists the builder for the "Presido Approach Roads and Viaducts" They are basically demolishing part of the Golden Gate Bridge.
Pot metal is any old junk that can melt at relatively low temperatures. Usually it's a cheap combination of zinc and tin, sometimes there is a bit of aluminum or lead in it. It's used for castings of things that don't need great physical strength, and can have a less than uniform appearance.
Two more links for that AQ Whirlpool Bridge bombing story.
AQ in Canada was planning on blowing up the Whirlpool Bridge at Niagara Falls, with a train full of tourists on it. Two Canadian operatives arrested.
The Whirlpool Bridge dates from 1897 and was refurbished a few years ago. It's a 2 hinge arch trestle.
This bridge was built by the Wisconsin & Michigan Railway (The Iron Range) not the C&NW some time around 1910 to the west northwest they had a station & round house were the old pulp mill was. they gave the bridge to the City of Peshtigo when they abandon the line from Peshtigo harbor to Bagley Jct.
The railroad is the E&LS ( Escanaba and Lake Superior ) the tracks the old Milwaukee Road.
This is an old C&NW bridge, now owned by the Canadian National not the Canadian Pacific.
The old C&NW bridge at Oconto may have been built to swing, I was born in Oconto 64 years ago. That bridge never did turn.
Looks like it was made with Lincoln Logs and an Erector Set.
Very cool though!
Cheap, low temp, zinc alloy, good for casting inexpensive parts. Brittle and weak in tension--breaks when bent. Usually slang for any substandard alloy.
J.R., this bridge carried two bridges by the same railroad. The first being built in the 1800's then the second in 1923 when the railroad double tracked this area. The first bridge was in place with the second from 1923-1953 when the first bridge was demolished because CTC was installed. This can be clarified by seeing an about 200 ft. portion of track there between the spur and the main line.
I am sure pedestrians and bicyclists will appreciate being able to cross an ugly bridge a few feet from the roar of freeway traffic versus having an entire historic cantilever bridge to themselves.
I appears the new bridge is not a through truss, based on data on the MODOT page.
And the new bridge will have a pedestrian/bicycle lane, so there is no use for the historic span.
In the list of excuses for replacing the 1935 span, the page says "... has reached a point where it needs regular preventative maintenance." I guess MODOT figures that any bridge needing maintenance needs to be replaced. Stupid. Maintenance is more cost effective than repair, which is more cost effective than replecement. Maybe it's that politicians like to put in new bridges so they can earn brownie points by naming the bridge for big-named people.
The attached image is an artist rendition extraced from a PDF I found on the MODOT site
I hate it when I am right, but I called it during my site visit a mere week before.
What's "pot metal?"
@ Jann, it turns out that Millerick Rd is open and legal, past the Larsen family winery and down to a locked gate in the vineyards with a small parking lot. It is then a mile plus hike across to the bridge. I met one local at the time of my visit who had driven in from the West on the private entrance road. Yes, I have know of this bridge for several years and figured i would never find a way to approach the location. One of my current favorite unusual locations.
Visited bridge and took pictures after two years of talking about it!
Discovered this bridge and have no historical information on the span. BUT the design and the regional location suggest it may be a John B. Leonard engineered bridge. Any new information would be helpful.
Yeah, I thought those old stone abutments were really interesting when I poked around there. I think they were built for the Leavenworth, Topeka, & Southwestern Railroad, which was for a time jointly operated by the AT&SF and UP, and later publicly owned! The line was probably dismantled around 1933.
The USGS Topographical maps for the Topeka and Oskaloosa regions (30x30, 1894 and subsequent) show the line labeled as the Santa Fe. See also "The People's Railroad" at http://www.kshs.org/publicat/history/2001spring_quastler.pdf
I was snooping around this bridge yesterday and wondering the same things you are. The continuous top chord design was a hallmark of the Wisconsin Bridge and Iron Company in Milwaukee. I've seen virtual twins to this bridge around Wisconsin, including the cemetery bridges in Oconomowoc.
There was a virtual twin to this bridge in Langlade County, spanning a branch of the Eau Claire River on Rangeline Road. It was built in 1908 and removed in 1991 and I can't help but wonder if this isn't that bridge. It would have been a move of about 50 miles, but this bridge was dismantled, so it isn't a stretch to think it might be the same bridge.
You can see that listing in in the Langlade County listings. There are photos from HAER in the listing, here's one of them. It was taken in 1987 by Martin Stupich.
The NBC page that clip points to calls the bridge "historic old cast iron". *sigh* I suppose it's asking too much for the news media to get the facts correct.
Bridge might be the old narrow gauge that Western Brick ran across the Salt Fork in order to haul clay from south of the river to the processing plant on the north. The map leads directly north to the U Pull Auto Parts which was the site of Western Brick. That would also explain the brick construction of the piers. As kids Dad would take us for walks across the bridge on Sundays when the plant wasn't open. The nickname for the train was the dinky train because of its smaller size.
The City of Lenora has a 1906 Truss Leg Bedstead Bridge (OS125) to give away. Located in Larrick Park, the steel bridge is 64 ft long and 17 ft wide, is in fair condition but currently has no deck. It is listed in the National Register of Historic Places, and its relocation to Larrick Park had been approved by the National Park Service. Anyone interested in the bridge would be responsible for all work and expense to relocate the bridge, as well as coordination with the Kansas Historical Society. Serious inquiries may be made to the City of Lenora, 125 E Washington, Lenora, KS 67645, or call 785-567-4860, or email firstname.lastname@example.org.
This bridge is being offered by the city of Lenora.
A 2 to 1 vote moved the supervisors to sign off on a competitive grant for TAP funds. More will be revealed. The next hurdle is 20 years of maintenance and replacement if the bridge falls again. But with new metal and raising two feet we are confident.
This bridge was built in 1914 as the prototype for warren pony trusses in Iowa. We are looking at moving it to Grinnell to a park on a trail. IaDOT brought to our attention through the Carroll County engineer. There is one more coming out there on Robin Avenue. More info on the IaDoT historic bridge database.
Undermined and washed out - http://www.pjstar.com/news/x1431012608/Pony-truss-bridge-washes-out
Based on photos in link and uncertanty surrounding bridge design, and the key stone design, this was almost certainly a former railroad. A C&NW map (which I can no longer find) showed the line had weaved back and forth around here, and was sold to the county upon a new line being constructed in 1899.
If this is the case, there may be similar bridges still in existence on Chatfield Road (county 51) around here. It has been a couple years since I was back here, but there are many creeks and possible sites for more.
Whoops I think I mistook this bridge for the one in Rodman that is closed. Glad to see it is still in use.
I find it really odd that this bridge was demolished. I remember as a kid 30 years ago fishing in this spot and this bridge was well closed back then. Why 30-40 years later does it all of a sudden need to go? This should have been cleaned up and made into a pedestrian walk bridge. It's really maddening watching our precious history callously being destroyed.
I canoed under this bridge last Sunday (April 14th). It is three concrete arches and similar to the railroad bridge just downstream (south) of this one. It has a poured "ledge" or drop off at the south end which kind of adds a falls effect.
I canoed under this bridge last Sunday (April 14th) it is three concrete arches and quite wide (aprox. 40 feet). It probably carried multi- lanes of tracks. Very similar to the U.S. 40 bridge just north (upstream) of this one.
This bridge just went through a renovation process but not near as bad as the Otter Creek Bridge just east of here. This bridge is located aprox. 1000 ft. East of the 1837 Vernon Underpass. A person could easily walk the distance (less than a half-mile) to both the two railroad trestles and the underpass in one trip.
This bridge is aprox. 50 feet above the river below.
I canoed under this bridge last Saturday (April 13th) in very high water. The bridge has gone through a complete restoration to a UCEB type bridge. It doesn't even look the same anymore. It appears new, tall concrete columns have been poured to support its weight load. This was planned for awhile but didn't know they (Madison Railroad Co.) were going to change the looks of the bridge. They also renovated the Vernon Railroad Bridge 1/4 mile NW of here over the Vernon Fork Muscatatuck River but not to the same degree. Sorry didn't take any pictures as the creek was flowing extremely fast.
Sadly, I knew with the storms coming through there that this was very likely to occur.
Another unfortunate loss!
I wish I had your faith Nathan about reasonable and prudence in regard to Section 106. Mostly I see the opposite, how to get through the process in the least amount of time to get the outcome originally desired by paid staffers.
Looks like this bridge finally bit the dust judging by this latest video:
Bridge was NOT relocated from 474th Street. It is an original RI bridge.
I APOLOGIZE SO VERY MUCH!! I WAS WRONG! This is back creek. Those trees were not there when I was a kid. That was what made me think it was Wolf Creek. Please delete my first comment. Things have changed very much since i was there last.
Again I sincerely apologize.
This bridge was located less than half a mile from my boyhood home. Years ago we owned property on both sides of this road on the opposite side of the bridge. Sometime back in the early 1940's my dad sold the property on the right to a fellow by the name of Anderson who built a filling station and store. It was sort of a motel too. They had several cabins they rented overnight. The place was named "The Beacon" It closed sometime in the early 60's.
Back in the 40"s the creek flooded so bad that it got up into the Beacon filling station. To appreciate the amount of water this would have taken you'd have to see the area in person. The beacon actually sits on sort of a bluff of the little St.Francois. I was told the water was going over the top of the bridge. It was the only time that has ever happened even with the huge rain storms we had when I was a kid.
The Rock Island referred to in this bridge's name can't have anything to do with the former railroad, and is probably related to the local geography. The Rock Island RR never got near this area; the farthest it ever penetrated into Tennessee being Memphis.
I'm originally from this area and traveled this road many times. I once joked that I could drive it with my eyes closed. I no longer live in the area and it's been 10 years since I have been back but this photo looks like it's the WOLF CREEK BRIDGE. If it were Back Creek you'd be able to see the Kollmeyer Dairy farm in the background if it still exists.
Back in May of 1970 I was coming home from high school with a friend when we came upon an accident at the Wolf Creek bridge. I was concerned because my mom drove a brown 65 Plymouth and she would have been going to work at the time. On that bridge sat a car that was too mangled to tell what make and model it was AND it was the same color as moms car. What had happened was this car had collided head on with a concrete truck. The impact was so hard that the truck was off in the creek. I wanted to go check and see if it was MOM but stopped when I saw the Highway patrolman look in the car and his face turned very pale. It WAS NOT my mom but the poor woman in the car had been decapitated and killed instantly.
I know the Wolf Creek Bridge very well.
I checked and Section 106 does apply to this project. So it cannot be demolished without first considering feasible and prudent alternatives to demolition.
Great photos, Craig! How did you get to the bridge - I wasn't sure if any of those roads were open to the public?
The current bridges are replacement bridges built sometime in the 1980's. The original bridges as built had a grated steel deck which made a distinctive sound when driving over it, hence the name.
Another easy way to identify the bottom chord is to look where the diagonal members meet the verticals--they always meet at the top and bottom chords and never anywhere else, except in cases of subdivided panels (Pennsylvania, Baltimore, or subdivided Warren).
This certainly is an interesting find Craig, Good Work!
Thanks, Nathan. I see the original bottom chord now.
A fully manual operate lift bridge on active railroad.
Let me clarify the design of this bridge for you, which may not be apparent in the photo. What looks like a polygonal bottom chord is not the original bottom chord. The original bottom chord is horizontal and is above the added metal which likely was added during a floorbeam alteration. Additionally, the verticals on this bridge are back-to-back channels with v-lacing on each side. This was characteristic of Massillon ponies, but your bridge appears to have angles with lattice, uncommon among Massillon ponies.
Nathan: Thank you for updating this bridge, and therefore calling my attention to it. There is a nearly identical bridge in Riley County, Kansas. Perhaps that bridge was built by the same firm. I had always wondered who the fabricator might have been, and this might give me a clue.
Link for the Kansas example:
As of 4/17/2013 the new bridge is built and in place some 150+ yards east of this bridge. This bridge is still standing and somebody (likely a local farmer) has torched the barricades off and it is being used to move farm equipment between pastures.
i don't know if it helps you to approximately date it or make-it, but the name "Jones and Laughlin" appears on the heavier bracing, and the stylized "illinois" stamp on the lighter-duty bracing. Thought it possible Some of you guys with a lot of bridge hunting/researching experience might be able to discern something from that.
Couldn't get any decent pictures, was a cold, rainy,dark day when I was out there.