We are the owners of the farm on the Washboard Road end of this bridge (versus the 177 end). If anyone has some history about this bridge or the route it used to serve, let us know. Thanks. Rich
Bridge was moved in February 2011 to the Public Works facility on Marshall Creek Rd, just east of US 377. It is behind a fence, at coordinates N 33 0.9594' W 97 12.8866'. After restoration and site determination, it will be permanently placed in one of the Roanoke city parks as a walking bridge.
This bridge is still in use. A train crosses it weekly to drop box cars at south side recycling.
The bridge is inspected yearly. To get close to the critical components, wire suspended scaffolding is required.
The approach span has collapsed on the western end of the bridge. Guess that seals the deal.
Hi there again, I still would like to have this bridge saved preferably as a no truck frontage rd. bridge and I would for it to be able to gain ground someday and I know that there is still hope for that and please don't think that there is not. Think positive because I do not want this bridge to go so soon. Please do not let them Demolish this bridge.
Replacement work starts next month.
The former location: http://bridgehunter.com/pa/adams/13038001000000/
Current location: http://bridgehunter.com/pa/york/bh61477/
Does anyone know Shay bridge this is:
Don, The tunnel and ford are Happy Hollow Rd Tunnel listed on Bridgehunters.com
Several additional shots of this bridge. Note also that the reference to the "Northeast" Cape Fear River is incorrect. This is the Cape Fear River. The Northeast Cape Fear River flows generally SSW into Wilmington where it joins with the Cape Fear River.
Just saw the posting for the CSX - Cape Fear River Bridge. This is a great bridge, used every day with traffic going to and from Wilmington NC. I have about 50 pictures of this bridge, mostly detail shots as I would love to build this in 1/87 scale. I have included several photos all taken in August of 2013, and could provide others if there is interest. The only way you can get pictures of this bridge, without a boat, is to stand on the bank of the river directly south shooting N to NE from private property. One fortunate day I was allowed access to this property, so all of these are shot from that position.
An interesting story was related to me about this bridge from a life long resident of the area. Sometime during the '60's, the railroad decided to replace the fixed portion of the bridge. Early that morning, all of the local kids took up position on the south bank of the river to watch. The railroad had a flooded barge placed under the bridge during low tide. As soon as the last train of the morning came over the bridge, the railroad started pumping out the barge. Between pumping the water out, and the tide coming in, the barge quickly rose under the bridge, making contact and lifting the bridge off it's piers. It was then moved downstream and the new bridge, which had been built earlier, and waiting on a barge upstream, was moved into position. As they say, timing is everything. At this point the tide had turned and started to go out. Between the flooding of the barge and the tide going out, the new bridge quickly settled down on to the piers. Within what seemed like minutes to the observer, the next train of the day approached the bridge and stopped short of the new section, but was waved through by the work crew. The gentleman I heard this story from said that he thought this whole process took less than 6 hours. If true, and I have no reason to doubt him, this is a testament to the railroads and their workers on how they keep America's goods moving.
Sad day, this bridge is now gone. Went to shoot it with a friend...only to find it was being taken down while we were there.
I love the Vermont DOT. They preserve almost all of their bridges. If they do demolish one, they don't make it boring. Their new bridges have flair just like the old ones did. Meanwhile, the Maine DOT does just the opposite. No offense, DOT, but we need more trusses here in Maine.
Maybe Vermont can give us a few of their trusses. But if Vermont doesn't want to, that's fine with me.
Actually this was a Bascule bridge according to these two photos found on the Florida Memory website. There's also some vintage pictures, videos and all sorts of stuff about the State of Florida. The website is www.floridamemory.com
Tell you whyt, let me use a couple of your bridge pics and I'll post an article about it in the Bridgehunter's Chronicles. That way everyone knows and we might have someone willing to tell us about the bridge and its current situation. Send me an e-mail if this is fine. Thx.
Looking at the replacement bridge in the street view it seems they used a design that is strongly reminiscent of the older bridge.
When was it built?
Trying to guess a truss bridge age from photos is tricky. One of Murphy's law corollaries is that none of the photos will include what I want to see. *smiles* And as bridge technology advanced, not every building progressed at the same rate.
That said, it is pin-connected, thus probably prior 1925. The eye-bars are upset, which often means later than 1890. The lower joint pins are at the very bottom, which suggest older as does the knee-braced sway braces.
So, based only on what I can see from the limited detail of the pictures, I'd guess 1895 to 1910.
But that is pretty close to a _wild_ guess.
That looks like pre-cast (and probably pre-stressed) concrete box beams. Not really a slab as those boxed sections are hollow. Calling it a "stringer" would probably be more accurate than "slab".
when was this bridge built?
According to Bing Maps, the bridge is long gone. Apparently it must've been removed even before 2011.
Actually, it's not a rail-trail, it's something far less common, a road=trail.
Thank you very much for the info!
NBI states 1973 as a build date.
It was never torn down. There was an incedint where a semi decided to use it to back up to turn around even though he relized he was exceeding the weight limit. When he backed up on it, his semi broke through and the bridge caved in. He was not hurt. This is all according to the news I watched years ago and what I remeber.
The CSX rolling lift bridge replaced an earlier Strauss bascule bridge Seaboard Air line RR
A pony truss on a rail trail lurks in Windham, at the end of Gambo rd. Please add!
*in south windham
There is a railroad overpass over Mallison falls road/Mallison st. Looks old.
REMINDER: In connection with the most recent storms and floods that devastated the upper Midwest, including Minnesota, Iowa, South Dakota and Nebraska, I'm looking for photos and info on the bridges affected for an article to be produced asap. If you have any, please let me know post haste so that they can be included. Your name will be accredited accordingly. Thanks you. The Bridgehunter's Chronicles.
Can you tell me what year or years this was built?
Construction starts Aug. 2014 and will be closed to vehicle traffic for approximately 1 year.
Whipple? No. I'd call it a Pratt.
We need a category for a herringbone brickwork deck as well.
They charge to park at this bridge?! Who charges? And why? Its in the middle of nowhere!
They should reopen either this bridge, or Higginsville Road Bridge. Route 13 through Sylvan Beach can't handle the traffic and the other night there was an accident that caused traffic in the beach to come to a standstill for hours while it was cleaned up and evaluated. I have sent e-mails and letters to the state DOT on this matter and was rudely told "no way". Higginsville Road at one time was on track to be used as an alternate truck route. (Hence the big over thought bridge in Fish Creek Landing. But, the Coast Guard Auxilary also needs the use of Cove Road as do some local fire departments. Let's get something done here New York State! Afterall, you've spent all kinds of money on bridges that only see traffic during salmon season.
The truck that caused the collapse weighed 80 tones!:
Scenic and classic suspension bridge. I did dozens of pirate bungee jumps off here (and a few legal ones with a film permit) back in the day.
It's about 86 feet from the water to the deck, varies with the height of the water.
It's cool to see how it hangs from the cables and you can move it by hand.
Driving over it is fine, I'm just worried that some idiots will try to caravan 3 or more cars over it at the same time.
They charge for parking there now.
Good place to gold mine, or take a raft out after doing the run from Iowa Hill bridge upstream.
Found a recent picture on flickr:
Heritage House Museum of Montgomery County used this bridge as the theme for its 2014 commemorative Christmas ornament. There were a couple of 'through truss' bridges in the county many years ago. They were a favored site for photo ops.
Does anyone know if human bones were dug up when Hemple Road was straightened? I believe the north side of the road near Bear Creek was the site of a mass grave for fatalities of the 1833 cholera epidemic. These people from Ellerton were buried in a remote location out of fear.
When did the straightening happen? Long before the bridge was closed in 1994? In the 1950's?
oops. The South Navarro street bridge is aka Mill street bridge sorry for the confusion labeling the pics.
Actually the problem I believe is pictures 1-6 of the south Navarro street bridge are actually of the middle Navarro street bridge. The middle Navarro street Bridge is a steel pony truss the south Navarro street bridge aka (Mill Street Bridge) is a concrete arch. The south Presa street bridge is actually a lenticular pony truss. In order the pictures are top-North Navarro street bridge-Middle Navarro street bridge aka (Mill Street bridge)-South Navarro street bridge-South Presa street bridge
Actually, I believe they're for this bridge on the same road, just north of the bridge this entry is for.:
Your photos of this bridge are actually photos of the nextdoor South Presa St. bridge. I don't think that bridge is on bridgehunter yet....
Well, progress is being made; slowly:
Driver of the truck charged:
Chester, If you can't remember where it goes, and can't find a listing here, maybe just add it as a new bridge entry with your best guess of its location... or leave the map blank on the new page. Somebody will probably recognize it. Its a really interesting bridge that deserves a page! You might also try contacting Jim Garvin, he is a historic bridge expert who lives in that neck of the woods. http://www.james-garvin.com/contactus.html
Chester, the photo you posted appears to be of a different bridge. The Bellows Falls Bridge was a much larger bridge. See the other photos.
In connection with the recent storms that devastated the upper Midwest, including South Dakota, Nebraska, Minnesota and Iowa, I was wondering if there were some bridges affected in one way or another. If you have photos and info, I'm looking for both for an article for the Bridgehunter's Chronicles. Please let me know via e-mail or facebook messenger as soon as possible. Thanks a bunch for your help.
The bridge was painted green and had five spans. It also had one of those grated floors which hummed every time a car drove across it. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
Din't think it'd get updated so fast. Wow. Thanks Luke.
August 2012: the street view car goes over the bridge. LEGALLY. Need I say more?
Street view, august 2012: it's back in business! Open to traffic!
Thanks, I'd added this as an entry for the bridge the "Barre-Montpelier" entry was for (Which wasn't mapped at all when I'd made this entry) so I made the entry for another bridge, but forgot to edit the info accordingly as I was adding sever
It's not a through truss... according to the street views, it's a pony/through plate girder.
Here are some great shots of the Peruvian Fink truss. It really looks like the American railroad bridges from the 1870s:
I found another picture of this bridge:
Can someone explain why this is not a Bollman?
I rode out the last recession in the sunbelt, and was living in Georgia in '93 and distinctly remember news stories when this bridge bridge burned.
It is lost.
Can't explain either the NBI or Wiki Commons information.
Discussions for replacing this bridge. The following KXII TV story is about the discussions leading up to replacement of this bridge in about 3 years.
As best I know, the story posted is accurate. If you look on Google Earth, the last house on the right, on the west side of the river, is where the gentleman we spoke to about it lives. He said it hadn't been there in many years, and from looking at the latest image from Google Earth, I would say that's true.
Anyone know where there is a photo of the bridge while it was still intact or in-use?
I am updating the entry based on information on Progressive Railroading's web news today.
1. The line is owned by Indiana Rail Road. Trackage rights are owned by Indiana Southern.
2. The bridge was built in 1898.
3 Replacement planned for 2015.
4. Bridge is currently restricted to 10 MPH.
5. Old piers will be reinforced and retained.
6. Timber approaches will be replaced with steal and concrete. New bridge will be 459Ft. steel girder type.
7. Budget is 14m $ with 8m from state funds.
That's more than likely kudzu on the bridge. When in bloom, it has little pink/purple flowers that smell sweet (sickeningly sweet).
They put a bunch around the mountains back in the 1930-40's trying to help fight erosion. It may have helped with erosion, but it liked the environment so much that it grew like a cancer. Many places in Appalachia are practically smothered by it today. My family has a cemetery in Loyall (a mile-or-so downstream from this bridge) and the only time you can get to it is when the kudzu has died down in winter.
It can be used for fiber. One of its medicinal properties has to do with alcoholism. Purportedly, if you use it for an herbal remedy, alcoholics will still drink, but be satisfied (therefore drink less alcohol) sooner. I've tried it and it kinda works. I just don't want it around my area as that would cause a disaster in regard to local farming.
Closed as of 8/2013 appears to be on replacement list http://www.dotdom1.state.pa.us/mpmsweb/mpmsmain.nsf/Project/...
NOT PICKLE BRIDGE.
Pickle bridge was here (40°36'44.6"N 82°30'03.6"W) not even the same road
I do not care to comment on the correctness of any of this, from Chinese steel to replacing an historic cantilever, but I found the photos and diagrams of the new structure interesting.
Interesting write-up on a rather dense collection of preserved historic iron trusses:
Here is an article on this bridge that includes an early picture:
Thanks David. It is good to get some details about this tunnel. I always figured it would take a lot of time, money, and engineering, to make it usable again. I am glad those features are still in place. The tunnels near Pennsboro have them as well.
I have always been interested in this rail line, but my interest has grown knowing that my 2X great grandfather worked on the tunnels. Before the Civil War, he helped to line them with wood. After the Civil War, he helped to line them with brick and stone. I don't know that he worked on this one, but I do know he worked on the ones near Cornwallis.
I vaguely remember seeing and hearing trains using the line near Ellenboro and Cairo.
There is a picture of this bridge on Wikimedia Commons dated 2006! Would someone please clarify the information of this bridge?
Interest is building locally to save it:
Recent news says there is a desire to replace, but that repair is also an option.
I recall when this was built. At the time it simply connected city streets. Now on the north side of the river the bridge has been linked to limited access expressways while the south side empties into a stop light. The geometry here is a bad adaptation which probably can't be improved, even with a second, parallel span.
The current roadway is hemmed in by the airport to the west and a main rail line (including the Hannibal bridge crossing) to the east. My guess is that the best solution for handling increased traffic will involve a major realignment of the crossing to the east. None of this will be as cheap as maintaining the current bridge (and the poor traffic flow).
Surplus granite anyone?
this is looking east the church on the right and the house on the left I remember well house now has green or gray roof church has been replaced
Since there is interest I'll share what I know
To my knowledge, CSX / B&O Haven't taken interest in it. The old telegraph lines follow the cut then up and over the mountain. About 5 or 6 years ago someone cut a new rock road along side the cut, I believe their intention was go get a new way up into the field in the north. The existing road is pretty steep and washed out. The new road was severed from the CSX right of way and cannot be accessed by conventional truck. So I'm thinking it was done without CSX's blessing. That whole area should be broken up into different plots, because Lodgeville used to be a mining community and houses lined the hills. You can sort of make out the remains of the house next to the pond by the cut. Rumor has is that Thrasher Engineering has some of it, I don't really know.
The image here : http://tinyurl.com/mu3em27
is mostly accurate. The fixtures on the sides are (were) still present. The area is not nearly as narrow now and has taken on more a flask shape when viewed from above. Water run-off is the most likely the cause of this. The Cut itself is VERY swampy and a good shoe ruiner. The water pouring out of the tunnel is nearly constant.
Many unknown people have used the area above the tunnel as a dump. Lots of it have fallen down over the years into the end of the Cut. Making the area like an odd time-capsule with dated junk laying around (glass bottles, appliances, railroad insulators)
It would be interesting to convert into a walking trail as some people have talked about. But the undertaking would be MASSIVE. The locals are friendly but leery outsiders (typical of West-by-god-Virginia).
This bridge once stood
I'll get the location for you when I get back home.
It's not showing the map on Find Town or address just blank and I did try
to type the location of the bridge I'm at home but Its better when Im at home working on uploading bridges then at the library
Lemont Road bridge was yesterdays presents.
Hey Luke It was a bascule bridge in Catskill NY before it was replaced
Thanks David. I would love to see this tunnel if I could do it without entering railroad or other private property. The railroads are getting pretty strict about that these days. I'm glad to know that the tunnel still exists and was not dynamited.
For those who are unfamiliar with this region, this railroad line is the same one that was converted to the North Bend Rail Trail farther west. This tunnel is even longer than the Central Station Tunnel. It was never subjected to any clearance projects. Therefore, it probably retains much of it Civil War era appearance.
Darn...Bingo got cancelled! ;-)
Glad they are saving the bridge however!!!
I grew up in Lodgeville and my parents still live there. If i get a chance, next time I go back i will snap some pictures of it. The cut to the tunnel was mostly filled in when the tunnel itself was bricked up. Only about 6ft of the top is visible and opened. It is full of water. The other side is not visible from the east entrance. I don't know where it comes out on the Despard side of the mountain.
There is a public meeting on the 18th of June to discuss the bridge's restoration. I suspect pubic support would benefit the bridge's survival.
A number of photos showing this bridge under construction in 1923 can be viewed by searching the Online Collection at DetroitHistorical.org
One photo shows the previous MCRR swing bridge being floated away when the new bridge was ready for service.
All Rouge River bridges between Short Cut Canal and the Turning Basin were replaced when the river was straitened and deepened. This was done to allow lake freighters to access the Ford Rouge Complex.
A railroad bridge owned, operated and maintained by CSXT Railroad should probably NOT have its name headed by “NS” – the initials of rival Norfolk Southern Railway. “C&O” doesn’t work very well, either – Chesapeake & Ohio Railway hasn’t existed since the early 1970s.
Factually, the bridge currently carries three tracks (out of a possible four) of CSX Transportation over Norfolk Southern Railway and Southern Street.
Historically, this bridge was built to carry Pere Marquette Railway’s Oak-Delray Cutoff over Michigan Central Railroad’s Detroit-Chicago Mainline. Built in 1930, the bridge replaced an earlier structure.
The entire length of the Oak-Delray Cutoff, including the previous bridge, went into service during the early 1890s. Delray Tower funneled trains from several different railroads into the shared Union Belt of Detroit trackage, on their way east toward Fort Street Union Depot in downtown Detroit. FSUD opened in January, 1893, and closed April 30, 1971 – the day before the Amtrak takeover.
Take a good look at the massive horizontal girder over Southern Street – the PERE MARQUETTE lettering is faded, but still readable – not bad for a railroad whose history ended in 1947, when PM disappeared into C&O. The lettering on the west elevation is also decipherable, but 84 years of afternoon sunlight has done its work.
I recommend calling this bridge Southern Street Railroad Overpass – a title that is immune from corporate name-changing. Another complication is the National Registry; I think that list still uses the C&O jargon.
This bridge has been demolished and is now being replaced.
This bridge has been replaced.
Thank you very much for all who responded. I found the information helpful. thank you Jodi Christman, Clark Vance, Ed Hollowell and John Marvig. Hope I didn't miss anyone
Sorry would have no idea where to find anything about the Bridge. If not for the sign in front of it I wouldn't have known it was a bridge. (joke) But as to date I am not a very good researcher..cant find info on any railroad bridges I've photographed so far. If I can help with pictures would be happy to
What is it with New Jersey truck drivers destroying bridges? See Rapps Dam Road Covered Bridge comments section...
Steve was out there around the 26th of May and work has already begun on the removal of one of the one over Big Bureau Creek ( http://bridgehunter.com/il/bureau/bh48254/ ).
The other bridge being replaced is:
Both are being lost due to mainline upgrades, as trains have to slow to a near-crawl to cross the bridges:
FYI--The local paper had an article and photos in tonight's edition that the BNSF bridges over the Big Bureau Creek west of Princeton, Ill and the West Bureau Creek east of Wyanet, Ill are being replaced with new structures.
There are so many bridges across the country that don't look like much when you drive across them, but they sure are interesting when you view them from the river.
Cool photo. I've passed over that bridge countless times for 27 years and had no idea what it looked like from the sides!
Thanks, Jason & Luke, for having found more info on this one in January after I posted it. I've searched for historic photos, but never found one.
I always wonder when I float by if any unsuspecting tuber's bathing suits ever got caught on the old twisted iron sticking out of the foundation.
I always keep the canoe mid stream thru this stretch when doing the Kendallville to Bluffton float.