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Posted October 29, 2013, by John Scruggs (johnscruggs j-kj com)

The funny thing about landscapes is they are constantly under attack. This particular bridge is not likely where it is marked on the map on this page.

US Highway 82 is now Texas Highway 56 US 69 is still in the same place, more or less, as it was.

This bridge is located just a couple hundred yards north of present day US Highway 82. I am attaching a doc I found while exploring links on this page. If you look at google earth, the scars on the land tell the story, fairly well, and line up almost exactly with the doc I'm attaching. I'm going up there, soon to see what is left, if anything.

Lou said it was still there in 2012, so, I'm hopeful!!

Posted October 29, 2013, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I recently found out that my 2X Great Grandfather worked on these tunnels in the 1860s. Apparently, he helped repair the old wooden liners and then helped with the process of lining the tunnels with stone and brick.

His memoir does not say specifically which tunnels he worked on, but he was living in Cornwallis at the time. Many of the tunnels between Cornwallis and Cairo were short and got daylighted in the mid 1900s.

He did mention walking from Parkersburg to Cairo via the railroad once. His trek took him to (likely through) the Silver Run Tunnel west of Cairo and he mentioned that tunnel in his memoir.

Posted October 29, 2013, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

Some of the local fast food places around here have a 9' 0" clearance bar at the drive through. My suburban is a bit more than 6' including roof rack.

2013 Smith Awards- new category
Posted October 29, 2013, by Jason Smith (JDSmith77 [at] gmx [dot] net)

In addition to the Ammann Awards for 2013, the Chronicles will be providing the Smith Awards again this year, with a new category: Spectacular Bridge Disasters. Unlike the other categories where the author picks his favorites, this category will be voted upon in December. Do you have a bridge disaster to nominate? Here's the information on how to submit the entry: http://thebridgehunter.areavoices.com/2013/10/29/introducing...

Don't forget, deadlines for submitting entries is December 1st. We're starting to see some entries already, Let's have some more, shall we? :-)

JS

Posted October 29, 2013, by Zachary S

This is the bridge my grandpa always used to tell my mom that they were going to have to drive OVER, rather than through. Amusing stuff.

Posted October 29, 2013, by Joseph Hinson (joethephotog [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Monster truck SUVs and 18 wheelers, but not typical SUVs, I reckon.

Posted October 29, 2013, by Bob Molzahn (rfm1949 [at] comcast [dot] net)

Sheeder Mill Bridge was rehabilitated by PA DOT around 2010 and looks completely different then it did before although its historic structure was maintained.

Posted October 29, 2013, by Art S (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

This bridge is in Mercer County (Hopewell Township), not Hunterdon county.

Here is a picture of the wooden covered bridge on the same stonework taken in 1902:

http://www.hopewellvalleyhistory.org/Artist-at-Washington-Cr...

http://www.hopewellvalleyhistory.org/About-Us.html

Posted October 29, 2013, by Art S (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

I'm almost certain that this bridge was a pony truss.

Posted October 28, 2013, by Fmiser (fmiser [at] gmail [dot] com)

Oooh. Looking at the HAER documents for the Upper Pacific Mills Bridge, the floor beams on that bridge were built-up plate triangular beams like the top chord. Possibly this bridge too had similar floor beams - at least originally. Again, I can't tell from the photos.

Also, those drawings for the Upper Pacific Mills Bridge reinforce the idea this is a tied-arch, not a truss.

Posted October 28, 2013, by Fmiser (fmiser [at] gmail [dot] com)

By the usual definition of "truss", this is not a truss bridge because there are no triangles. A better term would be a tied arch. A pony tied-arch. No checkbox for _that_ here!

The lack of diagonals result in the vertical carrying only a tension load.

The counter arch is a real odd feature. It seems to me they are nearly useless. Inverted arches aren't especially useful. only be a benefit if the verticals are attached to it - not just passing through it. I can't tell from the 'photos if they are.

Anyway, I'm changing the design so it's similar to how it's listed for this other Moseley bridge.

http://bridgehunter.com/ma/essex/moseley/

Posted October 28, 2013, by AR

9 ft 6 in clearance...do suvs have to detour?

Posted October 28, 2013, by Robert Thompson (rkt(dot)engineering(at)gmail(dot)com)

Temporary fix expected by January 17

2014http://www.jsonline.com/news/traffic/dot-expects-repairs-will-allow...

Posted October 28, 2013, by G. Moody (fishindiana [at] comcast [dot] net)

The FHWA database lists the bridge's date as 1920, according to a fellow in their Indianapolis office. Last inspected Feb. 2012, not fracture critical, rated 44.6 out of 100.

It's being torn down to make way for the southern leg of the "Outer Beltway" scheme; click on the link to the map at http://www.ibj.com/suburban-counties-slowly-building-outer-l...

Although the larger road project has both state and federal funding, the county seems to have jiggered the bridge replacement as locally funded, apparently in order to get around Section 106 requirements. Or so it seems from reports, what I find on INDOT's site, etc. I'm new around here so don't know the history. You sure don't get it in the local paper:

Fairland Road project slowly moves forward

Published: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 7:05 AM US/eastern

C.M. Schmidlkofer, Staff writer

Shelby County Commissioners approved a $652,300 contract with Strand Associates, Inc., a Columbus-based

engineering consulting firm Monday for the fourth phase of the five-phase Fairland Road project.

State and federal funding for the project will reimburse the county $521,840, or 80 percent of the expense.

Commissioner David Mohr, D-North District, said in a telephone conversation after themeeting that work on the road,

which includes the Red Mills Bridge replacement, may start next year.

"The state will be handling all the bids," he said, which he expects will reach the state by February 2014.

The fourth phase of the project is planned from east of London Road to County Road 825 West, approximately one mile.

This phase will take about a year, Mohr said, due not only to replacing the 1927 concrete arch bridge which spans Sugar

Creek, but the re-alignment of London Road there due to the proximity of the road to the new bridge.

The state is requiring a site distance between the bridge and road of approximately 100 feet, Mohr said.

"It's the most expensive phase we have on Fairland Road," he said. "Because the bridge is a pretty good-sized bridge."

Conversely, the fifth and last phase, is only about a half-mile stretch of road.

Mohr said the entire project began in 2003 and was supposed to take only 15 years from start to finish.

The fourth phase has undergone several false starts.

Work was scheduled to begin in February, then extended to April. But there were problems securing right of ways at that date, causing further delays.

When the Red Mills Bridge is closed for repairs, there will be traffic issues, Mohr said.

"It will take a full year, easy," he said of the construction. "And thats going to be the bad part for the farmers and local people right in there. Fire trucks, emergency ambulances, the Sheriff's Department --it's really going to make a mess with traffic congestion."

C. M. Schmidlkofer is a staff writer of The Shelbyville News. She can be reached at cschmidlkofer@shelbynews.com

Posted October 28, 2013, by Luke Harden (lukemh9 [at] gmail [dot] com)
Posted October 28, 2013, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

If anything I would say that the floor is sagging in the one corner... But it may just be the angle of the picture.

Posted October 28, 2013, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Utterly amazing that this beauty sat in a landfill for 50 years and nobody scrapped it!

Very fortunate to say the least!

Posted October 28, 2013, by D.W. (darrinw70 [at] gmail [dot] com)

OK. Is it just me or is that bridge's superstructure twisted?

Posted October 28, 2013, by Zachary S

Ah, excellent. That's pretty much what I was thinking. If you haven't finished tagging them yet I'll finish doing so when I get the chance.

Posted October 28, 2013, by Will Truax (Bridgewright [at] gmail [dot] com)

Patent # 59054 A - 1866 with improvements patented # 103765 A in '70

https://www.google.com/patents/US59054?dq=moseley+truss+brid...

Posted October 28, 2013, by Luke Harden (lukemh9 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I'm awaiting permission from the webpage to use their imagery.

Posted October 28, 2013, by Art S (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Great to see!

I would suggest importing the article and images in this article be imported into the site as the links may not be permanent.

Also, the bridge's original site is listed in the article and the article implies that 1857 is the patent date and this bridge was built around 1865.

more
Posted October 28, 2013, by conrad ekstrom (wb1gxm [at] arrl [dot] net)

Has anyone explored the cog rr bridge just south of the Cog's repair shops building at the base station and the one just north of Whitefield Jct, Whitefield NH next to the factory?

RE: In Other News
Posted October 28, 2013, by Mike Goff (michael [dot] goff [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Congratulations JP!! Enjoy fatherhood and the ride that goes along with it!

Re: Mosely rescued from landfill
Posted October 28, 2013, by Luke Harden

I got the image link to work, they separated a .html from the rest of the link in the article, thusly rendering the link useless.

http://northbennington.org/bridge.html

Re:Mosely rescued from landfill
Posted October 28, 2013, by Franšois

Good that is was saved from the landfill.

Although some people will bring up a fuss about it being narrowed..

Posted October 28, 2013, by Will Truax (Bridgewright [at] gmail [dot] com)

Supporters say their ceremonial Goodbye

http://www.wickedlocal.com/chatham/news/x1803841323/Friends-...

Mosely rescued from landfill
Posted October 28, 2013, by Will Truax (Bridgewright [at] gmail [dot] com)

http://www.benningtonbanner.com/frontpage/ci_24400089/histor...

Gotta love iron !

Unfortunately, the link to the photos fails to work.

Posted October 27, 2013, by Shari Houp

Thank you Bradley. To see her there by City Hall, oh I feel so relieved !! Just like you and so many other people, we were afraid of losing it to the Petit Jean River. Can't tell you how many times after a heavy rain we would run down to Danville and check her out. You know start straining your neck to see if it's still up on the piers!

Thanks to all who helped and believed with us.

Posted October 27, 2013, by Shari Houp

Thank you Danya. It was a joy to be a part of this. It was so wonderful to see the bridge come down Hwy 10, just cried. Beautiful bridge saved.

Posted October 27, 2013, by Chris (doctorc1970 [at] hotmail [dot] com)

John - that's good news considering the alternative. Thanks!

Posted October 27, 2013, by John Marvig (johnmarvig [at] chaska [dot] net)

Chris,

Blue Earth County apparently has this set for rehabilitation. A lot better than the alternative.

http://www.minnesotabids.com/bid-opportunities/2013/10/21/51...

It might be getting a new encasement though..

Posted October 27, 2013, by Chris (doctorc1970 [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Just discovered this today (10/27/13) and the surveyor flags are in place. Such a shame that this is slated for destruction. It really doesn't look like much would be needed to reinforce it and I get the feeling that they will destroy most of the nice little valley just getting down to work on it. It would be wise just to leave it appears there is no danger of collapsing.

Posted October 27, 2013, by Gail Blanton (Orphagail [at] aol [dot] com)

The bridge is restored and open to traffic six tons or less. Enjoyed seeing the trusses on each side. Wonderful way to spend a fall day. Someone obviously takes care of the approaches. They were neatly mowed and had picnic tables. A little out of the way but the roads were good.

Posted October 27, 2013, by Ed Hollowell (erhollowell [at] aol [dot] com)

This bridge just keeps going on and on. Rodger Barack owned the bridge since it was closed and he finally gave up and sold it for a dollar to Advanced Explosives Demolition (AED) who sold to Lee Chaklos who owns it under the name KDC investments. KDC now is in court fighting claims that the exclusive scrap rights were sold to three different company. Those companys have leans against the bridge and it can't come down until the courts rule on who owns the scrap rights and who should get their money back. Next court date is Nov. 12, 2013. Read more at http://www.theintelligencer.net/page/content.detail/id/59077...

Posted October 27, 2013, by Luke Harden (lukemh9 [at] gmail [dot] com)

I think that just creating new categories for the different types would work best, seeing as specific categories for eyebar suspension and cable stayed bridges already exist on the site.

I've gone ahead and created a wire/cable suspension category & a chain suspension category.

Posted October 27, 2013, by Zachary S

More specifically I'm referring to their place in the categories and tags; there's a 'suspension' category but few sub-categories in the tags that I can find other than the ones mentioned, so it isn't easy to browse by the different styles of suspension bridge, and it puts small wire suspension bridges and swinging bridges next to massive bay-spanning suspension bridges without an easy way of dividing them.

Since there are only a couple hundred suspension bridges on the site, I'll gladly take on the task of adding a couple more tags for the different types to make for easier browsing, unless this is a stupid idea lol.

Posted October 27, 2013, by Douglas Butler (drawbridges [at] lycos [dot] com)

Yes it was some how she was coming from a breast cancer organization.

Wanted: Covered Bridge for Project
Posted October 27, 2013, by Jason Smith (JDSmith77 [at] gmx [dot] net)

Alma's Farmhouse Boutiques, located in (Winfield) Missouri, is looking for a (covered) bridge to be relocated to their property as part of the plan to expand their facility. The covered bridge should be one located in Missouri or somewhere in the Midwest and is one that is slated for replacement. If you know of a historic bridge (their request is a covered bridge but they are open to other options), please contact Lauren or Keith at Alma's at 636 662-2284, and they can give you more info on their project, while you can provide them with the bridge you want them to have. Thank you for your help.

Posted October 27, 2013, by James Baughn (webmaster [at] bridgehunter [dot] com)

Any suggestions on how to better categorize suspension bridges? Right now the sub-categories are: wire/cable, eyebar, and self-anchored.

Posted October 27, 2013, by Matt Lohry

Unfortunately, with deck truss bridges, utter boringness from the deck is the way it is...the MN 123 Kettle River Bridge in Pine County, MN, is even worse...

http://bridgehunter.com/mn/pine/sandstone/

Go to this link and take a look at the photo of the deck on it..this one has been re-decked and has really ugly jersey barriers for rails, so if you didn't know it, you would be completely unaware of the massive deck truss system underneath...it looks like a new UCEB from the top.

Posted October 26, 2013, by Jason Smith (JDSmith77 [at] gmx [dot] net)

And who knows? Maybe the third one as well, as the Piano Bridge has been nominated for the Ammann Awards for Best Example of a Preserved Historic Bridge! :-) Winner will be announced in December. :-)

Posted October 26, 2013, by Zachary S

I'm thinking we probably need a new category for wire suspension bridges, or at least a better way of separating the various types of suspension bridges on the site. As it stands I believe there's only a 'suspension' category.

Posted October 26, 2013, by Fmiser (fmiser [at] gmail [dot] com)

I drove over this bridge a few weeks ago. Lots of construction around it. It's a fairly boring looking bridge when driving over it.

Then after getting home, I look here on Bridgehunter to see what old bridge is being replaced - and find it's a deck-truss! *sigh* Maybe it's better that I didn't know at the time as I could not have stopped to investigate or photograph it anyway. Ignorance and bliss, etc.

Looking at the one picture, that arched truss main span isn't a pure warren truss. There is a, well, stutter. Panels 2 and three from the center both have diagonal the same direction - like a Howe truss. Seems unusual.

I did get a couple pictures from the deck, but a deck truss can look like a ugly concrete bridge from the deck.

Posted October 26, 2013, by Patricia Hamp (plhamp [at] casair [dot] net)

Here is a photo we took of this bridge last year on a color tour in the area.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3260691975231&l=d922...

Posted October 26, 2013, by Julie Bowers (jbowerz1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Not a mention of who....Charles Walker senior engineer retired from TxDot...DCI (Davis Construction), BACH Steel and Cecil the painter.

Very cool.

Posted October 26, 2013, by Julie Bowers (jbowerz1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Thanks for the recommendations. Getting one from close to there seems like a great idea. We meet in early December.

Posted October 26, 2013, by Danny Parker (barnamus1966 [at] aol [dot] com)

This image was taken sometime in the early 1940's. The bridge crossing at the top is the Argentine Boulevard Bridge, to the left you see some storage tanks, these are some of the tanks that took out the west end of the bridge in the flood of 1951. This image was found in the "Missouri Valley Collection" at the Kansas City Missouri Public Library.

Posted October 26, 2013, by Anonymous

Is this the bridge that a woman got trapped on when trespassing on railroad property?

Posted October 26, 2013, by Anonymous

Holy cow, that low hanging cable is an extreme danger to boaters.

In Other News
Posted October 25, 2013, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This guy is going to be a father as of April, and of course I will be raising her in the ways of Bridgehunting....

Posted October 25, 2013, by Art S (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

The restoration won an award:

http://www.gonzalescannon.com/node/26938

Regards,

Art S.

Eckman Road Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted October 25, 2013, by Patrick S. O'Donnell (1 [dot] 991km [at] comcast [dot] net)

Nice pattern done with the leaves in the first photo (among others).

Posted October 25, 2013, by Zachary S

More good news for old truss bridge fans in 'Bama! This bridge is listed here as being lost, but Google Earth proves that the bridge was NOT torn down when the new one was built, and indeed still stands - quite abandoned - on the old alignment!

This is the second 'lost' bridge I've found so far still extant in north-central AL, and the Google Earth search continues for more.

Posted October 25, 2013, by james mccray (jamesinslocomb [at] yahoo [dot] com)

You mentioned getting ideas about obtaining another truss bridge to go along with the BB Comer bridge, what about this one (http://bridgehunter.com/al/madison/16289/)? Its called the "Boat Dock Road Bridge" and it has been closed to traffic for a while. It is located just at the north end of the US 231 Tennessee River Bridge that goes into Huntsville, AL. That one, if whoever owns it will be willing to hand it over, seems to be a good bridge to use. Also, there are about 5 abandoned truss bridges in Lincoln County, TN over the Elk River just north of Huntsville that are available too.

Posted October 24, 2013, by Zachary S

Excellent news. Hope it keeps looking up.

Posted October 24, 2013, by Art S (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

The wall visible to the left is the remains of a late 1600's mill. The mill was destroyed when the road/bridge were widened and rehabbed in the 1890's.

Posted October 24, 2013, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Scudder Falls Bridge is scheduled to be replaced soon as it is a bottleneck on Interstate 95

Posted October 24, 2013, by Don Morrison

Old 14 apparently came up out of the valley on the south end at 41.402318,-93.10378 .

This bridge was apparently near the lost community of Cordova.

Cordova's coordinates were 41.426879 -93.099360

Here's a .pdf of the lost towns (and ferries) of the Red Rock Reservoir.

http://www.co.marion.ia.us/maps/historical/LostTownsOfLakeRe...

Apparently, there is a book called "The best of Grace Karr's Cordova News". Perhaps Grace wrote about old hwy 14 in her columns?

These places that get inundated are fascinating. I hiked the valley where Brushy Creek Park is in Webster County just before they closed the dam gate and submerged everything. I remember a couple of small bridges & old cars were down there. Now they're under 40 ft of water.

later,

Don

Posted October 24, 2013, by alan j.sklenar (moravianme [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Here is a photo taken on 10/20/13

Posted October 24, 2013, by Julie Bowers (jbowerz1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Really great news from HRI Bridge today. They are willing to enter into discussions about utilizing the demolition funds that were already put into this third phase of the contract and use those for restoration and rethinking the area. This also means saving another truss bridge for use to get across the slough to the city road so we need ideas for what truss that should be. Working on an early December site visit which will result in a Scope and Estimate for preserving and maintaining this last very historic truss and for a new pedestrian crossing. And yes, it couldn't have happened with me and my team being able to help the friends group, and negotiate with all of the agencies and areas involved from ALDOT to the city / county and private companies. Here's to Nels at BACH, Jim at Schiffer and me, Julie at Workin' Bridges for finding a way, thinking out of the box and having the expertise to work on any size bridge.

Outstanding that more has been revealed and that was the "higher up's at HRI Bridge thought that this was a good idea. Can't wait to go back to Alabama.

Posted October 24, 2013, by David Backlin (us71 [at] cox [dot] net)

MoDOT has posted that the new bridge has been opened.

Posted October 24, 2013, by Joshua Durbin (anzio_anney_07_89 [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I grew up in Lowell, Kansas, where this bridge is located. It was used as a trolley car bridge that used to run from Galena, Kansas to Treece, Kansas and down into Picher, Oklahoma. There are still two very impressive spans of this bridge left. One in Lowell and it's neighboring town of Baxter Springs. These will always be home to me. It was used to transport lead and zinc ore from Galena, Kansas to the Eagle Picher plant in Picher, Oklahoma.

Posted October 24, 2013, by ben demars (bdemars [at] aucosiscoschool [dot] org)

I call this the Hawk bridge because there always seems to be An Eagle or Osprey flying around it....

Posted October 24, 2013, by ben demars (bdemars [at] aucosiscoschool [dot] org)

bridge is still in use. Though a 18-wheeler hit it a few months ago.

Posted October 24, 2013, by ben demars (bdemars [at] aucosiscoschool [dot] org)

iowans: stop submerging your bridges!

Posted October 24, 2013, by ben demars (bdemars [at] aucosiscoschool [dot] org)

reminds me of the curtis bridge.

Posted October 24, 2013, by ben demars (bdemars [at] aucosiscoschool [dot] org)

wow. that's all I have to say about this bridge. wow.

Posted October 24, 2013, by ben demars (bdemars [at] aucosiscoschool [dot] org)

when was it torn down?

Posted October 23, 2013, by Matt Lohry

Indeed; looks like a Ford L-series or a Sterling hood.

Posted October 23, 2013, by Nathan Holth (form3 [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Its probably one of those trucks with additional special railroad style wheels on it. Would love to own one.

Posted October 23, 2013, by Fmiser (fmiser [at] gmail [dot] com)

Steve - you drove across the railroad bridge? Out of curiosity, what were you driving?

Posted October 23, 2013, by Louie DePuydt (ldepuydt [at] charter [dot] net)

A freighter just unloaded road salts here in Hancock, MI a couple of weeks ago. I heard on the radio that that specific boat wouldnĺt fit through the Portage Lake Bridge. Please, would you tell me why that is? Louie

Posted October 23, 2013, by jayhawk

Maybe the writer meant pin connected - 1930 would be getting a bit late for a pin connected bridge.

Posted October 23, 2013, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

The portals are rather unique!

Posted October 23, 2013, by Luke Harden (lukemh9 [at] gmail [dot] com)
Posted October 23, 2013, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Glad to see photographs on here. This bridge, along with perhaps 2-3 others in southeast Kansas have a rather interesting perforated portal bracing. I have not seen an exact match anywhere else.

Posted October 23, 2013, by bradley widding (widding [at] gmail [dot] com)

So proud of yall that made this happen. I thought bridge was doomed to fall into the river at any time and be lost forever. Now about that Springfield - Des Arc bridge...

Posted October 23, 2013, by Jann Mayer (jannmayer [at] gmail [dot] com)

I'm not sure that this is the last simple truss built for a railroad at a new location. The Washington Blvd Bridge in Los Angeles County is a simple Pratt truss, and it was built in 2001 as part of a track re-alignment, so there was no bridge at the location previously.

Posted October 23, 2013, by Steve (stevekatkus [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I just went out here the other day. It was nice! Got to drive across the bridge too! FYI- There are thousands of wasps living in the ties!

Posted October 22, 2013, by Keiv Spare (keiv [at] keivspare [dot] com)

Here are some photos of this bridge.

Posted October 22, 2013, by Karen Daniels

Since the bridge is not on the State System, look to Greene County for possible rehab, not MoDOT

Posted October 22, 2013, by Nathan Holth (form3 [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Its also a repainting project. Tried to rephotograph the bridge during the historic bridge weekend, but the containment wrap totally ruined my photos.

Winona Bridge (Minnesota)
Posted October 22, 2013, by Jason Smith (JDSmith77 [at] gmx [dot] net)
Posted October 22, 2013, by Julie Bowers (jbowerz1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

The riveted lattice portal bracing and the posts where a King Bridge sign will hang are the real clues to the background of this structure.

Everything thing that we have learned at NSRGA / Workin' Bridges in the last four years started with failing to understand the bowstring when it was dropped in my lap. It was listed with NRHP under the wrong name. That listing made us think we could find money to help. (No). Our lawyer didn't realize we needed a structure purchase agreement and a land lease which is key in how we approach work today. We started a nonprofit because we got ripped off by a Community Foundation for a percentage of every original donation, we charge only an hourly rate for administrative duties like acknowledgements to donors. We got liability on the land but not on the bridge and we continue to work with NTHP on the insurance's that are needed, with or without FEDERAL money being used. Maintenance is so little when these structures are restored, it is common sense, visual inspections, keeping tree and leaf debris at bay. We try to work without any federal money because of the restrictions imposed by a 20 year full replacement and most of the bridges we work with are county owned so they know better than to use federal money if at all possible. Except for Winneshiek County where they use the 80/20 all the time and just go through the process to tear down, Gilliece and Ft. Atkinson are next.

Because of our non-profit and consulting arms we are able to step in and empower local citizen groups. Those champions have the knowledge of the community to back up fundraising and I am the new girl in town that will listen to all of the stories. Because we are a non-profit and working with contractors we can find places where either volunteers or in-kind donations can be made, like the dirt work done on Old River Bridge Access today. These projects are expensive but we can do what we can to put the money where it counts.

Because of our previous experience we knew how to lead the supervisors in the direction we wanted them to go from the very first meeting (it took four in the end), and in this case, to use demolition funds for restoration. This county also has a private casino-based foundation that is dedicated to funding local endeavours and we just made the grant deadline on the day we purchased the bridge because the Supervisors called a Special Session to help us finish getting the signed agreements lawyered up. The Friends of Bunker Mill Bridge have embarked on a capital campaign to raise more matching funds and we were able to use the county money as a match That was key. I was also able to contact Allan King Sloan and their foundation donated to the capital campaign. This friends group had solid people that stood up and wanted to be part of the original board of directors. Marketing, managing, meeting landowners and working with supervisors and county engineer that wanted this bridge gone. For the friends board we used a Facebook closed group to get through most of the negotiations for easements, purchase and grant writing.

All of the opinions aside as to what kind of a person I am, it is my experience in construction, design and working with contractors and policy makers, that has brought this company to the place where we can help other groups today. Comer Bridge Foundation in Scottsboro and CRISP in Burlington have also chosen to work with us, because I never give up. It is those experiences that we are taking back to Poweshiek County as we rebrand Friends of Skunk River Bridge to help fund the final phase of our bowstring project.

Art, thanks for asking how we made a difference. I don't believe that when something is the truth it is out of bounds to celebrate it, and I will continue to post here as action happens. Just like it did yesterday when we filled in the trench around the approach abutment that was used to keep people away from their bridge. That work was done by a volunteer who just wanted to help for 5 hours and the cost of mobilization and diesel. We were all a little envious of the bulldozer as it cleared away the scrub close to the bridge so we can get in their and cut down larger trees that are too close to eyebars and such.

The signage and the motto will be "Don't be Stupid", you don't really want to own this bridge. Don't get sidetracked by all the chitter chatter by the anonymi, I don't.

Posted October 22, 2013, by Jason Smith (JDSmith77 [at] gmx [dot] net)

Project moving forward. Historic truss spans available for purchase. If interested, click here for details:

St. Anthony Parkway Bridge to be replaced; historic truss spans for sale. Any takers, keep October 29th open and grab them! Info here: http://thebridgehunter.areavoices.com/2013/10/22/st-anthony-...

Posted October 21, 2013, by Jason Smith (JDSmith77 [at] gmx [dot] net)

Fmiser, The Town Lattice portal bracing was coined some years back namely because the interwoven bracings resemble that of the truss bridge design. When it was first used is unclear... I'll check to make sure that the categories are correct.

As for the date of the arson, I'll have a look at it and make the correction. :-)

Thanks for the points! JS

Posted October 21, 2013, by Fmiser (fmiser [at] gmail [dot] com)

Jason, thanks for the detailed essay. *smiles*

A couple comments. You refer to the lattice portal brace as a "Town lattice". I don't see a relationship between the portal brace and Town's design except they are both a lattice.

Next, you mention arson on 12 August - but not a year. That may be fine right now, but please presume this document won't change for dozens of years so a year would be nice.

Julie, and others,

I was saddened to read of the arson and plans to scrap the bridge - then heartened to read of it being saved. Thank you to all who put effort into saving the bridge _and_ documenting it (and all the other, not-so-high-profile bridges) on this website.

It seems to me the clashes are because the involved people are passionate. And while I would rather not see cat fights, I would much rather have a few folks with a passion for bridges who occasional bicker than to have many hundreds who don't really care.

But it's not my website, and I'm not really even a big contributor, so my opinion is probably not worth more than the space it takes up on your screen. :)

Posted October 21, 2013, by Luke Harden (lukemh9 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Art, Julie was/is being adamant (haughtily so) that "King Bridge Co." should be the ONLY thing in the builder's section (Even though it's the ONLY logical place for the pertinent information to go as the website's design currently stands. She's also demanding that James add new boxes IMMEDIATELY instead of waiting for the ANNUAL site updates early next year.).

Jason, myself and several others (Some of whom I consulted with in private on this matter.) are in disagreement with that notion.

Posted October 21, 2013, by Steve (Okienla1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

My grandmother lived between this bridge and the other one (RR) listed here in a house no longer there. Now my aunt lives in a house sitting on the old roadbed, how weird. The bridge had sides until it was salvaged for sure. I used to throw rocks off this bridge in the 1950's. it was the Rock Island from when I went there in mid 50's until it went bankrupt. Hope this helps.

Posted October 21, 2013, by ArtS (Asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

First off, congratulations to Julie and everyone else involved in rescuing the bridge! Everything else is secondary.

That said, I'm curious how the bridge was saved, apparently so quickly. Were groups already in place that brought Julie in or did Julie organize the groups? What was Julie's role in relation to the groups and the government? Which group accepted the liability and how were they able to demonstrate they had the wherewithal to accept the liability? Was it a simple matter of getting insurance? If so, how much did it cost and who paid? Who is heading up the fundraising and how big is the group Of people writing the proposals?

Julie, what did you learn from the difficulty you encountered in your bowstring that made things flow so smoothly here? Was this due to prior legwork or your doing?

Also, I don't understand the discussion regarding the builder. Is Julie saying that King built the bridge and others were involved in various repairs, while others are saying that multiple builders built the bridge or are the positions different than this?

Posted October 21, 2013, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

A second odd thing on this one. How does one remove the trusses while leaving the deck in place?

Posted October 21, 2013, by J. Bell (jbellaustin [at] gmail [dot] com)

The trusses have been removed. Just the wood and asphalt remain.

Posted October 21, 2013, by Julie Bowers (jbowerz1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Got the King Bridge sign on it. I don't care really about the other bits so much. Who the salesman was or who rehabbed it when. Remember there was nothing but a steel mark when i started researching this bridge we now own. Earth moved. Approach open.

Moving o

Posted October 21, 2013, by Don Morrison

Went to the river and was surprised to see construction going on. Apparently it's just a new bumper to keep river traffic from hitting the pier.

Sorry about poor image quality.

Posted October 21, 2013, by Dave King (DKinghawkfan [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Was finally able to get back to see the culvert. I have uploaded the photos.

Posted October 21, 2013, by Anonymous

Actually MPA was the correct reporting mark, but if Ma & Pa is preferred, than that's OK.

Posted October 21, 2013, by Jason Smith (JDSmith77 [at] gmx [dot] net)

Julie, you cannot make changes when the information that has been posted on there is correct. If you do not believe me, I will send you a pdf copy which will show that I am indeed in the right on this one. King Bridge Company was not the only one that built this GD bridge.

JS

Posted October 21, 2013, by Julie Bowers (jbowerz1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Passionate. Bragging. Those are judgements I cant care about. Knowing that the information is skewed I cant do anything about. Dealing with name calling has been juvenile and again a waste of time.

We are starting to save more bridges. Not only will I market the team I will sing their praises. This is hard work and its taken years to start winning.

Bragging rights when they are due. And certainly still want changes to database to give builders rights to the one with the sign. KING IRON BRIDGE CO. CLEVELAND O.

Posted October 21, 2013, by Jason Smith (JDSmith77 [at] gmx [dot] net)

Hi Don, while I am not the one going by Greek names, etc., I do want to make a point that Julie's project is very exciting and I do appreciate the passion she puts in. However one needs to control their feelings when posting here. Taking pride in a project or a bridge being restored for future use is one thing. Bragging about a victory or being a control freak over what information should (or should not) go in should not be in there. This not only applies to the events of a couple weekends ago but also for all posts, esp. as this website is not ours to own but ours to post as long as the webmaster sees it as appropriate. My two cents on this topic.

JS


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