I take that back. Having just looked at Google maps satellite view, there is at least one pier remaining, surrounded by trees. It is probably this one.
When Muscatine County built a new bridge in the late 1960's, they sold the Tice bridge to farmer Glen Phelps for one dollar, so he could get across the river to his cows. They put up a gate, so only authorized people could use it. (You can see it in the 1970's view on the Iowa Geographic Map Server.) We had a camp on a patch we leased from Mr. Phelps, so I was across that bridge pretty often. Unfortunately, when they built the new bridge, the channel of the river started changing, and one night in the mid 70's, the Cedar river took out the center span, and the bridge went down in the center, almost into the water. We actually crossed the bridge a couple times like that, but eventually they removed all but one span (for fishing), then finally all of it. Because the channel of the river has changed so much, there is now nothing left of the bridge.
The battle continues:
Note the the builder is listed in the article.
Bridge destroys barge... http://www.semissourian.com/story/2210936.html
Not a single photo on HistoricBridges.org, nor a single photo here. Looks hard to photo, but still, its sad. Wish I could have integrated into my trip. Its future is uncertain.
MaineDOT is "deciding" whether to repair or replace this bridge while also claimed (which is a pile of nonsense) that "The truss is well past its design life and needs replacing"
Given that MaineDOT treats metal truss bridges like disease infested cockroaches... it isn't too hard to imagine an outcome here.
All I know is what's on the Transportation Improvement Plan (TIP). I am attaching a two page PDF, from information from the TIP.
You can browse the TIP on a map here: http://www.dot7.state.pa.us/tip_visualization/map.aspx
Note that TIPs change yearly, so don't assume a date you see for a bridge is set in stone.
Okay. I'm going to be spending the 4th in a cabin without internet, so it makes no difference for me.
Do you know the plans?
Since Google Maps doesn't want to add the correct photo sphere, here's the direct link to what I tried to add as a streetview: https://www.google.com/maps/views/view/101470318001769821380...
we walked over this last year.
There is a second bridge further down.
We are going to find this one this year.
Very friendly people at the end of the bridge.
This is a county owned bridge by the way.
It takes a bit of homework. First you need to find out who owns the bridge (PENNDOT, county, town, etc.). Then you need to find the documents that explain what the current plan is and how far along the plan is (these documents should be available to the public but finding them may be an adventure). The answers to these questions will determine the best/fastest approach to getting the bridge restored and open.
Who do I contact to preserve the bridge? Or to have it fixed? I will contact them today.
That is because they are designing a replacement bridge. The Feds will pay a percentage of the replacement costs if the new bridge meets their standards. So rather than simply fix the little old bridge you have, they are spending years and a fortune getting you a big glorious new bridge that will cost 10X or more than the repair cost of the old one.
If the old one meets your and your neighbor's needs, push to have it preserved, it will save tax dollars and can be done quickly.
Including Trolls, neat things took place in the shadow of the Foster Bridge including a famous resort and speak easy, Hoppe's Island and the Foster Mill.
I was wondering the same thing, Art. Why does it take approximately 4 1/2 years to get a bridge done? I questioned the engineers who got the contract for this bridge. I was given a number of reasons, none of which completed this bridge in a timely fashion. We will be going through another winter season with this bridge out. I never told them to make it better. I just wanted it repaired. This is what became of it. Years of waiting.
I'll move them to that entry.
first 4 photos are of a different bridge about a mile or so south
Anyone have rules of thumb for distinguishing Howe trusses from double-intersection Warren trusses? I've noticed that there is a lot of crossover between these categories, with very similar bridges being classified differently. I know that heavier weights on an upward-sloping diagonal would tend to signify a Howe design, however many of the bridges I've seen classified as double-intersection Warren trusses (both here and elsewhere) seem to have this feature.
Bridge is gone now, I'm glad I took plenty of structural pictures when I had the chance because it's been replaced with a generic steel and concrete span.
In the process of being replaced, this bridge is currently closed and traffic is being routed on a detour over I-55 marked with signs labeled "Old" with the US 66 sign.
There is plans to extend a trail using the old lanes ROW from Shirley to McLean, with a bridge to be build adjacent to current site.
This is a duplicate of this entry: http://bridgehunter.com/me/york/1351/
If anyone is still following this, I live in Harvey County and just happened to be driving past these two bridges and my curiosity was piqued.I ended up here (Thanks for pictures and info. Someone asked about route of AVI. This blog from Harvey County Historical Museum has a map if you are interested. http://harveycountyvoices.blogspot.com/2013/06/avi-car-no-12... The locals tell me there are some other bridges from AVI not shown here. I haven't seen them yet.
Hello, I have an update on this bridge for you. I live near this bridge in Eau Claire, and the conversion of this bridge to a multi-use path are complete. The bridge opened to the public on Friday, July 3rd, 2015. I took several photos, and plan on returning once the approaches are paved and will also get photos of the abandoned forest st. bridges.
Any idea when this bridge was constructed? Judging from the ladies' clothing, I am guessing this photo was taking some time around 1905 (+/-). Given the lack of brush/trees around the bridge and the ornamentation, could this have been taken shortly after the bridge was opened?
Attached is a TVA photograph of the original Dandridge bridge, replaced in 1942 by the current bridge. It was east of the present bridge. The view are from the south end, looking across the river toward Dandridge. Portions of this bridge were salvaged and re-used in Sevier County below Douglas Dam. The road to Chestnut Hill was not yet part of state route #92.
They've just completed some repairs to the parapets and road surface at the abutments. It's nice and smooth now. It would seem they intend to keep this one a while. Rare here in Tennessee.
I made a mistake on the location . Was there a one lane bridge just 200 ft Noth and just West of the Turback Bridge. It would have been a one lane pony truss bridge. Just pass the house you can see on google earth as you face North standing on Turn Back bridge.
This one looks interesting, but I can't find any documentation on it besides the HAER photos. Anyone have any thoughts?
Dear; I agree with David
The men that raised that structure & their family members (six generations in some cases) take much pride in working with their hands to help bring jobs to our communities. You guys sound like it's no big deal that projects like this & the old terminal station in Birmingham have fallen in the name of, what some call, progress.
While the girder isn't overly significant, I am absolutely disgusted to learn that this bridge's rare Phoenix columns have likely been scrapped.
This bridge was the hwy. 13 bridge before hwy. 25 was developed. After hwy. 25 was made, hwy. 13 interchanged with it. They cut out around two miles of hwy. 13.
This bridge is in danger.
My point was, why not simply repair and reopen it? It would be a cheaper and quicker solution. If it's for local use, a single lane seems adequate. Is there a reason replacement has been deemed necessary?
This is an absolute beauty... And anything short of a full restoration would be criminal!!
By using the quadrangle map, I found it is Mackelroy Creek.
By using the Quadrangle map, this is Spring Creek.
I have personally visited this bridge in 2013 and so I have some understanding of the condition of this bridge, particularly the metal trusses, which is an area in which I specialize, as do the engineers and fabricators I typical recommend to restore bridges such as this. http://historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=pe...
First off, I am going to say the same thing here I said when people complained about the historic Charleroi Monnessen Bridge being closed for years. Absolutely all of the inconvenience could have been avoided if the owner of the bridge would not have been laser-focused on the needless destruction and costly, time-consuming replacement of the bridge and instead simply chose to repair the existing bridge. Plans and permitting for repair are typically much quicker.
Unless the intent is to drive large quantities of fracking trucks over this bridge and turn what appears to be a quiet residential road into a major industrial thoroughfare, there really is no need to replace this bridge, nor is there a need to add a pier under the bridge. Overall, the metal truss was in decent condition. The worst issue I noted was the existing paint system (possibly dating to 1978 based on a number I found painted on the truss) needs to blasted and repainted.
Stating that the bridge is "structurally deficient" or even "unsafe" actually doesn't tell us anything in regards to the problem of the bridge. I have not personally reviewed a bridge inspection report for this bridge. Even I cannot be sure of the exact problem. However, the bridge was actually reviewed to be in decent condition in the National Bridge Inventory as recently as 2008, which leads me to believe that bridge closure may be related to an isolated area of the bridge, such as the deck, bearings, or perhaps an area of section loss on a gusset plate. Such problems might lead to bridge closure, but also could be repaired to reopen the bridge very quickly. During my 2013 visit, I certainly did not see widespread section loss, pack rust, or damage to the truss superstructure, which are the typical hallmarks of an expensive and challenging repair project.
Overall, I would think this bridge could have quickly, and cost-effectively been repaired and reopened had the support been there to do so.
In Response to Art S:
In the pictures it appears that the bridge is open. This is not correct. It has had jersey barriers in front and back of it for approximately 4 years. The structure of the bridge is structurally deficient and poor safety rating. The wooden floor of the bridge is deteriorated and unsafe, even for walking across. It needs to be reopened to traffic to the ridge and back. The alternative route of Iams Hill has deteriorated in the past few years. Since this bridge is a public bridge and road, it needs to be reopened for public use.
Why does the bridge need to be replaced?
After numerous calls to Widmer Engineering in Beaver County speaking with Bridge Designers, I called every six months to find out when this work would be started. After preliminary design stage (1 1/2 years), design stage (an additional year), it is supposed to be a concrete base over the creek with additional higher weight limit.
I was told that this work would be started in March 2015. That time has passed. We are now scheduled for March 2016.
More than 25 people use this bridge. It is closer to 10-15 an hour. This was an access bridge for all people on the ridge as well as people coming from the mine up to the ridge.
The closing of this bridge caused many people to drive further to get home as well as expense of gasoline, not to mention winter months and the problems that that entails.
Really, not too many people know the bridge as Owens Run Bridge. It should be called Walker Hill/Owens Run Bridge. That would be more accurate.
I am hoping that work will be started in March 2016 as of my last contact with Widmer Engineering. This bridge has gone on long enough and has disrupted the lives of the people that used it in the past.
A shame? That's putting it mildly.
This newspaper was brave enough to interview me about this bridge's demolition. It was nice to be quoted accurately for a change. http://www.post-gazette.com/local/washington/2015/07/01/Dono...
What a shame.
Many people complain or say 'something should be done' but few are willing to step up and do something. There are people that frequent this site that can restore that bridge in a cost effective manner but without strong organized local support you will not change the county's mind.
If there is strong organized local support, send me a point of contact and I'll try to help.
I drove through this today in my F250 today. There were signs posted that said that it is closed. However they didn't block it off so I drove through it anyways. I've also taken my Dodge Neon through it. There's another tunnel about a mile west of this one too.
Heads up: No takers were found for the swing bridge so removal and demolition scheduled for the last two weeks of September 2015. If anyone stops by to say goodbye please be safe.
I was stung by the comment that said people down here don't care about this bridge. We have begged our county freeholders, who own the bridge and the road on which it sits, to do something about it, but they won't. Not only is the bridge collapsing, so is the access road. The loss of the bridge has cost us a lot of money, because we have to drive further to reach the closest town. It has also closed what was a vital evacuation route in the event of a disaster involving the Salem nuclear plants.
This bridge is now a memory: http://www.wtae.com/news/donorawebster-bridge-demolition-set...
A bit of praise to Preble County for finally coming through and restoring this highly significant bridge. After obliterating their collection of 1800-early 1900's pony trusses hopefully they will save face on some of their larger spans.
I hope to visit soon and take pictures that I can send to Delaware County, Indiana officials to show them how their High-Triangular Truss should be restored!
I do believe you are correct Nathan!
And of course... It could have remained standing after the replacement bridge was built!
Okay, the new location makes much more sense.
Halverson Construction Co has this photo on their website here http://www.halversonconstruction.com/gallery/bridges-railroa... and I think its this bridge.
Yeah- I fixed the coordinates and added dates based off the postcard that was linked; should've thought to remove the Streetview as well.
Thanks for the message agreeing with my opinion on this location. I don't remember adding the comment, but at least we finally got the location correct.
Did you arrive at this bridge via the to-do list? I sometimes look for bridges on the list and may have been doing some to-dos when I wrote that message.
Sometimes you find something really interesting on the to-do list. Here is one I was looking to correct (the location information of) two years ago. 8^)
I've found that the streetview (Which I've deleted since a bridge replaced in the 30s wouldn't have one.) is pointing at a trail bridge.
I have no idea what the Streetview is pointing at... this listing appears to be for a previous bridge over the large, deep, Lake Pend Oreille (note my correct spelling) which even today retains a full size swing bridge on the adjacent RR bridge.
Names of men who built the bridge and fell when it collapsed.
While I don't know for a fact, I am going to suggest the 1907 construction date on this bridge may be inaccurate even though the NBI says 1907. For a few reasons, firstly, K10 (early days) was originally aligned further north on what is now known as Penner Ave (83rd) and ran through downtown Desoto, this can clearly be seen on any map. On this road, the rails go under an old highway bridge built in 1948 that I just added to the site. Secondly, this branch line was originally installed to serve the Sunflower Army Ammo plant, which in turn was built in 1941-42 at the start of WW2. So, there are those two reasons why I think its much younger, Lexington Ave (second gen K10) probably didn't exist then, and its possible that the rail line wasn't added until seven years after. This of course I can't confirm due to lack of aerials or general information.
There is a third option, the NBI could be a typo, 1947? perhaps, this would put it inline with the other highway bridge being constructed at the same time in 1947-48. Or again, could have been built in 1907 and relocated from elsewhere.
On another note, the bridge, Lexington Ave, and its rail line are all present in the 1959 aerial image. However, the first appearance of the line and the new road doesn't appear till the 1952 topo and was not present coming off the main line in 1950.
While I have a editors account here, I can't find anything by googling info about the bridge to make an accurate edit. If anyone can confirm and update the build date, that would be great.
Listing this bridge crossing the "U.S. Government RR" as all topo maps up till 1989 reflect this as the line serviced the Sunflower Army plant. The line is a branch of the ATSF and sees occasional local traffic servicing the Huhtamaki packaging and Rehrig pacific companys in Desoto.
Is this the right bridge? This little stream seems rather small for a lift bridge.
Wow, as an engineer myself I'm a little ashamed that I didn't catch the rollercoaster reference. In case anyone else is curious, Royce and I were discussing some Boston & Maine Railroad bridges in New Hampshire.
Currently "under construction". Looks like a (completely?) new bridge is being built, beside it.
I see discussion about "B&M" Bridges... had to look them up to see what y'all were talking about... there are a lot of structural engineers (and maybe others) who are thinking roller coasters when they see that...
Just saw this from last year-U.S. Route 4 Bridge
Posted March 23, 2014, by Don Morrison
Does anyone agree that this bridge was probably located at 43.643513,-72.112888 instead of where it's presently shown?
Some of the HAER photos were obviously taken from a nearby bridge, and these coordinates are where Rte. 4 crosses the Mascoma in close proximity to one of the many rail to trail bridges in this area.
You are correct with those Coordinates-Royce
Adjusted a few mileposts; they should be all set.
Thank you for the information Erik!
Original Engineering Plans for the bridge are located at: https://www.arkansashighways.com/historic_bridge/State%20Hig...
Based on the revised elevations shown on the plans the bridge deck elevations are:
Mountain Home Side: 486.70'
Henderson Side: 492.00'
Lake Elevations are located at: http://www.swl-wc.usace.army.mil/pages/data/tabular/htm/norf...
The bridge is typically 64' to 70' below the water.
The bridge can be seen (underwater) with Google Earth. Just follow the road entering the Henderson Marina to the middle of the breakwater pier/ platform at the entrance to the marina. It appears the eastern side of the old bridge begins just under the breakwater pier/ platform.
Bing maps shows it as Jackson Pond Road, and the Bing imagery has less dense foliage.
Pin was in a weird spot; I moved it to the correct location. The road doesn't show up on Google Maps but does show up on topo maps prior to the 1980s. It does look like the bridge is still there if you really look closely at the satellite imagery.
New England Southern does have the freight rights (though they never run that far north); might want to throw on Plymouth & Lincoln/Hobo RR since their tourist trains run here as well. The pin should be at the south end of Centenary Ave though- the current location is a grade crossing.
Is there anyone that lives in this area? Google shows the road this is on as Blake Hill Rd. Can someone verify which road it is actually on?
Have talked with someone familiar with the area. I am going to change it to Blake Hill Road. If this is incorrect please change it back or let me know and I will change it back
Will one of the RR guru's look over this and make sure I changed it to the right RR please.
Is this bridged still standing?
IMSA/TUDOR United SportsCar Championship posted the following image of the No. 3 Corvette Racing C7.R and the No. 5 Action Express Racing Corvette DP (Which lead the Tequila Patrón North American Endurance Cup standings in the GT Le Mans and Prototype classes, respectively.) crossing Cornett's Stone Bridge, which was part of the original 6.6-mile course of the Watkins Glen International Raceway, as part of the buildup to the 6 Hours of the Glen race on Sunday.
This bridge is in terrible condition. Has anyone thought about preserving it? The supports/stanchions are crumbling and it appears the deck isn't in much better condition.
Really enjoyed the C. Hanchey photo from the deck of the bridge. I have always wondered what the deck looked like! Some of the ironwork is actually rather nice.
Noticed the 2nd stanchion doesn't show up in the original blueprints. Does anyone know when that was added? Was it after the area was flooded for the Tenn-Tom. river project?
I am an amateur painter and would enjoy painting from your photos. May I have your permission?
Does anyone know where Hardin Bridge got its name?
A pretty interesting design- while a quick glance would classify this as a concrete rigid frame bridge, closer inspection reveals that the bridge is actually a steel arch structure. The outer two arches are faced with concrete, likely out of aesthetic preference.
there is a video on youtube of the flooding in 1943, showing this old bridge many times, credit will be given to the poster and the narrator.
Hey Robert here is the actual picture of the Huron Street Bridge.
Lol, I love this overpass & apparently, it is quite popular.. Has its' own facebook page.
Good news. This distinctive 1934 Pennsylvania truss is being repainted, as I type. The new paint job is about halfway complete, and is the same shade of blue as the nearby Kingery Highway S&S Bridge that was repainted in 2014. Good to see these nice old truss spans taken care of, so they can carry their heavy traffic load well into the future.
Already removed from the google map. This should become a park/museum instead of scrap.
I enjoyed going in the east portal because you would go across the bridge into the tunnel that was high on the mountainside.