Luke, you are better at moving the google markers than I am. The location would have been 200-300 yards from the western shore (Beach Haven West) and about 50 feet to the north of the present allignment.
PS. There may have been another movable span at the eastern end amongst the causeway islands.
Thank you for letting me know that I have not done my homework, I will try to meet your high stanards in the future.
The location listed, when I commented, was on the island. My comment was based on my knowledge that no Bascule bridge existed on the island. The bridge in the photo is part of the old causeway that was replaced in 1959, the location is in Barnegat Bay between LBI and Tuckerton, there may actually have been two movable spans at one point, but I'm not certain.
By the way, prior to that auto causeway, which was completed in 1914, there was a railroad trestle adjacent to it, built in 1885-1886 and washed out in 1935.
The 1959 causeway is now being replaced.
LOCATION OF THE OPERATION WILL BE THE JAY-JAY RAILROAD BRIDGE IN MIMS, FLORIDA. NASA RAILROAD BRIDGE AT MILE MARKER 876.6 AT THE KENNEDY SPACE CENTER. (33 CFR 117.261 describes the operation )
I am the the bridge maintenance engineer and certified bridge inspector for the past 26 years.
The bridge is fully operational. The bridges NBI ratings, as of 2013, are as follows:
Deck = 6 Satisfactory
Superstructure = 6 Satisfactory
Substructure = 6 Satisfactory
Channel = 6 Satisfactory
This, this is fascinating. Had no idea this existed at all, and looking at it on Google Earth, it's definitely one I missed. Gonna go check it out before too long.
For your information you haven't done a lot of research it had a bascule bridge at one time before it was remove and here is the evidence!!
Posey County just recently agreed to take ownership of this bridge.
This makes it possible for the County to apply for funding.
The federal funding for replacement is rolling in:
I was just out there not too long ago. This bridge has been removed completely. Must have really deteriorated.
Something is wrong here, as far as I know there was never a Bascule bridge on LBI itself.
There is a movement to get this tunnel renamed in honor of Robin Williams.
This is not the bridge that the Northeast Corridor passes under. How many Whipple RR bridges are in the Baltimore area?
I was wondering who this John Snodgrass is/was..... just since we share the same name and all.....
Yeah, looks like those deck truss photos most likely go to
FYI - this is over the Amonoosuc, not the Connecticut.
I didn't see any evidence of work being done, but there are ugly orange barrels at the bridge obstructing the view. I couldn't figure out why they were there.
I think the deck truss photos are posted with the wrong bridge. I think these photos taken August 2014 are the correct through truss bridge.
Pennsylvania's Historic Bridges: Connecting our Past and Future
Does anyone know how high the highest point of this is?
Come to find out, via the local paper, that the bridge here was moved from Galena (Dustin Road) to here in 1962/3 to replace a previous bridge.
Work has actually started on the adjacent bridge. This one will be gone within a year.
Bridge is closed for temporary repairs. After completion it will be posted for 10 tons. Looks like replacement with UCEB is inevitable.
I have notice that these ship operators either can't navigate right, was drunk or hit it on purpose for them not to like drawbridges and that include other parts of the US!
Can you go and see this bridge ... I thought it was on private land?
"the end of July 2114"
This bridge will be replaced in 2015
This bridge will be replaced in 2015
Instead of a bunch of little articles on each section of the bridge, why isn't there just one called the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel? That would be much easier.
I've been keeping mum about this desparate attempt to bring this bridge to the attention of others without taking any action to do something about this. But now it's my turn to spill it:
If you really want to have a bridge like this saved, you need to have an organization formed with a structure and plan on how to save the bridge. Kicking and screaming about it being demoed is not going to do. Sorry Wireman, you need to do much better than this. Look at all the organizations and movements that were created to save several historic bridges, including the Riverside Bridge in Missouri. They were well-structured, had an agenda and kept up with the political machines, while informing the public through facebook and other media. And they won. The bridges are still there, preserved for future generations. If you want to save the Sab-Sav Bridge, you need to start this movement NOW! I can help with the media aspect if needed, but kicking and screaming about it like a baby has no place in this day and age. So grow up and do something constructive for once, and save some bridges, for C's sake!!!!
My two cents on this topic!
No, it isn't.
Perhaps you are confusing this bridge with the lift bridge on the same railroad line that crosses Little River at Archie, which is downstream/east of here.
On the northern tip of Bardwell lake in Ennis, Texas you can see the remains of a bridge that appears to have been in place before the lake was damned. It appears to be apart of the Ennis Pkwy road but I can't find any information about it at all. Does anyone have any historical photos or information about the structure?
This bridge is already listed on the website. This is a double post. Someone should merge the two pages.
I still Believe this Bridge can still Be Saved Preferably as a No Truck Frontage Road Bridge. Please do not let the Owner of this Bridge Have this bridge torn down. I am beggin them not to have this bridge Torn down even after the New Bridge is in Place. I know that there just might be a way to save this bridge Preferably as a No Truck Frontage/Back Road Bridge for like I'm talking another 10 or 15 Yrs. I know this bridge Can be saved somehow. I still Want this bridge saved. I going to keep fighting for that until the end. Please at least try to save this bridge, preferably as a No Truck Frontage/Back Rd. Bridge. I do not want this bridge to Go anytime soon.
This is disappointing but not a total surprise. Fountain County has abused it's historic truss bridges and is now trying to rid themselves of what remains. I can only hope that possibly the trusses were retained somewhere.
There were many of these Massillon spans built in a number of states, so the chances that this plaque found in Miami County, KS came from a bridge in Miami County, OH is very slim. And I got to thinking about a conversation I had with Robert Elder about a Massillon being built in Kansas, and sure enough I found where one had existed in Linn County just to the South. I looked at the Kansas Historical Society photo of the bridge and sure enough it is the same style that the firm built in the early 1880's. So, I would venture to say that the plaque probably came from the Linn County bridge.
But... It is the same style plaque, and would certainly look good sitting back atop the portal of a restored Massillon beauty! ;-)
Don't knock till you see it. Been under it a couple times on my bike. Very impressive.
Dimunition of traffic on this line is due to shift to Alameda Corridor rather than truck deregulation.
Great day for people who love The Great Miami River CR 21 Bridge! The sign to the other end of the bridge was found by local pickers in Miami Co Kansas` The sign was give to Miami Co` road and bridge department, the sign was returned to Logan Co the end of July 2114` The sign had been missing since 1997.
Information from internet on Strobel Direct Lift Vertical Lift span
STROBEL--Movable Bridges, Forgotten Books, Movable Bridges pgs 168-169 from internet search
Figure 5L illustrates a method of balancing a vertical-lift draw span without cables, as designed by the Strobel Steel Construction Co., of Chicago. The principles are similar to those of the Hall bascule design. Referring first to Fig. 5L (a), a pair of counterweight trusses is mounted on each of the two towers. Each counterweight A is proportioned to balance one-half of the weight of the lift span, when in closed position. At the end opposite the counterweight the truss is articulated to the top chord at a panel point of the bridge truss at B. The trunnion C turns in a roller adapted to move along a track on top of the tower. As the draw span is lifted, the trunnion rolls back, permitting point B to move in a vertical line. Thus, the counterweight A and the pin B each move in an arc of a circle about the movable trunnion C, and an exact balance is maintained throughout the vertical movement of the lift span. When a new bridge is to be built, Fig. (a) shows the preferred arrangement. In some cases it becomes necessary to make an existing fixed span movable. Figure 5L (6) shows an adaptation of the principle which accomplishes this result. The counterweight trusses turn about fixed trunnions D. A roller encloses the pin at G. An auxiliary member EG is added to the upper chord of the span, with a horizontal track on its lower side along which the rollers G may travel. This permits the point G to rotate about Z) as a center, and at the same time the span can move vertically upward, and an exact balance is maintained.
The Daily Railway Age Gazette, March 18, 1914 (found a March 13 and March 20 edition in Forgotten Books but no March 18, 1914 edition)
Illinois River Bridge at La Salle? " The Chicago, Burlington, and Quincy Railroad bridge over the Illinois River at La Salle, 111., as originally built, consisted of five 148-ft. pin-connected truss spans. It is a single-track Pratt structure, each truss having six equal panels. The United States Government required that a movable span be provided with a clear headway of at least 40 ft. above high water level, when open. It was decided to make one of the fixed spans movable in the manner outlined in Fig. 5L (.") The maximum lift is 32 ft. Towers, having front vertical columns, were built at the channel ends of the (span?)
(plan diagram is from oil-electric.com website but it is the same as the Railway Age Gazette article refers to)
The same bug has happened to me. Twice!
Yep, must be a bug. I just added the one below without having to save as a draft first. It appears within the "Latest Updates" column.
Yes, I had saved it as a draft. I have a few other Hawaiian bridges to post. With at least the very next one I get around to posting, I'll not save it as a draft just to see how that works out. I'll keep you updated.
I went down to the creek with my friend today and took these pictures. We have dug all around as deep as we could and can find nothing.It's our most favorite place to go to, quiet and peaceful. In 1 picture you can see the current County Rd. 41 in the back round, although you may need a magnifying glass to see it. The only other resource we know that we can possibly find any other additional information would by the Public Library.
The updates page includes all states. Did you save the bridge as a draft before you added it? There might be a bug lurking with the new draft mode.
Hmm, do Hawaiian bridges not get posted to the home page's "Latest Updates" listing?
I understand the map on the home page is of the Contiguous United States, thus perhaps both HI and AK get left out of the updates.
Well, its great that the county decided to rehabilitate the bridge for what it was built for. I was a little concerned about demolition until I saw the restored picture. I'm wondering if the bridge is much older than 1941. Being on an old state road alignment and having the narrow roadway makes me think its older. I remember a few state highway Parker trusses built in the 1920s which are gone that had a narrow roadway. Most Parker trusses built after 1935 had a wider roadway.
Does anyone know if there are plans to move the bridge elsewhere like back over water or something?
On a visit, July 27, 2014, I found that the old bridge has been replaced. I am trying to get a hold of a guy I know that hopefully still works for the County Highway Department, to try to find out when it was replaced.
Beat all to HELL... But still a beauty!
Planned to become a trail and eventually a connection of the 6th Ward of Merrill to the River Bend Trail
This bridge has some VERY unusual details, some which appear to be original and highly interesting/significant and others that appear to be alterations. The bottom chord eyebars have strangely shaped eyes. The floorbeams have two rolled beams with old looking ubolts, but there are also old looking latticed floorbeams which are very odd. The lateral bracing eyes appear to be just laying on the floorbeams. And the chord pins appear to be simple rods with no threads and no nuts on them! Finally, the bridge has some old welded repairs that are some of the crudest I have ever seen. Like they dug out some scrap metal in the shop and sent the office guy out to the bridge with a welder to weld them on the bridge.
Funny thing I have noticed is that the South appeared to run a little behind in the changes in bridge design (The Lattice truss covered bridges built in the 1930's in Blount County being the most prominent example). So, this bridge with portals that look 1890-1900 range in the Midwest might be 1910-1920 circa for this location.
Certainly if it were still sitting on any kind of a substructure, that might help to date the span.
I have been with Modjeski and Masters for almost 15 years now. At the time the bridge was relocated I was on the Galveston Causeway Vertical Lift Bridge Replacement project. I had several photos of the Bridge as it was being transported to Freeport, TX.
This is a link to the Modjeski and Masters, Inc. video about the project.
Looks like the last car has crossed:
MoDOT closed this bridge 8-14-2014 due to "critical deterioration to the structure". Bridge will remain closed until a replacement has been built.
The bridge is named after my grandfather Horace Wilkinson, Jr. and his son. Horace Wilkinson, III. My grandfather served in the Louisiana Legislature and my uncle served as a senator.
High bids stall bridge preservation effort:
according to the reading eagle dated 8/14/14 this bridge looks like it will be replaced.the greenwich supervisors are talking to the berks county commissioners about replacing the bridge.the commissioners indicated they would consider replacing the bridge with a concrete span.estimated to cost $2.5 million the new concrete span would be capable of supporting a 30 ton firetruck which is stipulated by the township.this all is conditional upon the township assuming ownership of the new bridge.construction of the new bridge will take 3 years.any more information i get i will pass on.
Based on the portal bracing and lightweight construction, I am going to guess that this bridge might have been built between 1890 and 1900.
Ralph... as a general rule I tend to stand back from the tracks when a train is approaching. I have however felt the rails immediately after a train passes by, and there is not always a discernible vibration... even after large freight train passes. Just that distinctive high pitched ringing sound that you hear a few seconds before and after. Just thought I should mention this in case someone is thinking about using this vibration test.
This particular bridge represents the most dangerous type of railroad bridge. A long single track deck girder with no shelter alcoves... and not even any portions of the superstructure (like a thru truss bottom chord) someone could walk onto if a train was coming. Yeah, anyone who goes out on this bridge is Trespassing. That's not really the amazing thing. Anyone who has ever cut across the RR tracks as a walking shortcut in an areas where there isn't an official grade crossing is technically trespassing and yet in cities this happens constantly... and although illegal isn't really dangerous in most cases. The issue here is that it is dangerous and anyone who would go out on a bridge of this design is either profoundly stupid or trying to commit suicide.
My guess is that the structure was built before World War I; it could have been built before 1900.
I have walked down that creek and looked over all of that bridge. It is beautiful, I have tried digging dirt from around the base of every end of the structures and can not find any dates. Does anyone know when this was built?
Here's a tip: feel the outside rail before going on the tracks*. If it has a vibration, that means a train's coming. If it dosen't, then it's safe to hop on the grade and take a picture!
BTW I went on a RR bridge to take pictures recently, but I didn't get on the main span and I used the technique above. Here is the link to that bridge. Expect photos soon!
*NEVER trespass on a active rail line, unless it's for a really quick pic. Also, using that technique would be a great idea. It could save a few lives. By few, I estimate about 100 or so.
The 1894 Suwanee topo shows a Hayes Bridge in this approximate location. Several other named bridges are along this stretch of the river.
Carol: Thanks for the bit of info!
Don: I've already added "Hayes Bridge" as an alt name.
However, Dawson Forest Bridge seems to be the more common name nowadays.
So this bridge was known as Hayes Bridge? We could add that as a more specific name.
I'd certainly like to read more history of this bridge and area.
This website is all about documenting historic bridges.
Please feel free to contribute more information and photos when you get them.
See, Pennsylvania, Missouri, and Wisconsin--not that hard, is it??
This is one of the strangest things I have ever heard of. A privately owned tolled low water crossing. Very strange indeed.
This bridge was very scenic where it crossed the Little Raccoon Creek... Now it just looks out of place sitting on dry land. It appears that the road could have easily been straightened and the dogleg removed which would have allowed the historic bridge to remain over the stream with a new bridge nearby.
Now it's just a "Duck out of water".
It is never acceptable to walk out onto an active rail bridge. These women were lucky, I have read about others trying this on regular trackbed and being hit by dragging chains, partially open doors on bottom feed hopper cars, and others decapitated by air hoses hanging low. I also have no respect for photographers who place high school incoming seniors on active track for "the shot". It is trespassing, and if one is for whatever reason on a railroad track, stay out of the guage(in between the rails)!!!! Ok, off my soapbox, back to regular programming.......
August 12, 2014: The bridge has been closed through part of June and all of July 2014, and not expected to reopen for another week or so. Call first or you may need to add another hour to your trip. 301-478-5500
I stumbled upon this site by accident so forgive me if I don't follow guidelines etc if there are any.
The Dooley family has been in Forsyth and Dawson Counties since 1846 and my mother-in-law was quite the historian. The Dooley and Hayes families are connected by marriage. My husband and I tried to get to the "Hayes Bridge" on the old Lockheed property today but the road was blocked. My husband has been there many times and I wanted to take photos of it due to the family connection. Henry Hayes died while working on this bridge. I have a little more information about that but I can't put my hands on it right away. After I found this site and read some of the posts I thought some of you might be interested in the little bit of history I can provide. Thank you so much for posting the photo. We are going to keep trying so I can take one myself.
Where exactly is this bridge? I'd love to take some pictures of it.
Me and a buddy rode over this bridge on Friday 8/8 on our way back from NC. Needless to say, he was kinda freaked out. You don't see many steel deck bridges anymore.
The photo credits did not appear in the previous post. The first one was submitted to this site by Anne Groening. The other two are from the Ray Tutaj local history site. All three were submitted to this site in May 2014.
The website---OIL-ELECTRIC.COM---has two photos and a drawing of this Strobel designed lift span. Just enter Strobel in the SEARCH box--the article is about a Strauss lift bridge in Steilacoom, WA but further down it goes into a discussion of this Strobel bridge in La Salle, Illinois. The bridge was built in 1890 without a movable span. The Strobel designed movable span was installed in 1913 and was replaced in 1932 by a conventional cable/counterweight vertical lift span. The bridge was removed in 1980.
Heard news the bridge was to be reopened by now.
I think this bridge is for sale:
FYI...This bridge is closed. There is no work or replacement going on at this time.
I have often pondered the Freeman case, and feel there was probably more than one person involved in her disappearance. From the general accounts I have been reading off the net, appears her car was found at 6:40 that morning, is that correct? And reason seems to suggest that whoever drove that car to Mahned Bridge that night, did not drive it out; so, expedience would demand another vehicle, which probably picked up the occupant of Angela's Honda and drove away. Question is, was Angela's car quickly abandoned, probably was. And that is why if she is deceased, the crime took place somewhere else and Mahned Bridge was nothing but a staged set to throw off authorities. If she was last seen at 1 am and her car was found at 5:40 am, that is about a 6 Hour window someone had to kill her and ditch the car. In that timeframe someone could have driven at 70 MPH a total of 420 miles from the point of where she was last seen to the Bridge area, where the car was found at 6:40 that morning. That would be a radius around Petal of roughly 210 miles. Of course that would also depend upon her tank being full, and the need for a fillup, probably got around 25 to 30 MPG. Once the deed being done, it would also have been expedient to hide/bury the body asap. It was night, and visibility was limited. But if the body was tendered at a local unknown location, it is probably still there. Given these many years of not having located a body, the culprits may well assume it's hidden in a safe place and not bother trying to move it.
Here is the impressive bridge in Morgan County on Google Streetview. Sadly, the railroad bridge isn't in the Streetview.
That is a totally different bridge I remember fondly. It was a girder type of bridge, but not as impressive as this one in Morgan County. This one in Morgan County was massive, painted yellow, and stood out geographically.
There's also an NBI listing in Noble county saying that there was a bridge at 39.820000, -81.671667
This is the NBI for the Haul Road bridge I had posted here earlier. Google Earth in 1994 shows there was this railroad bridge crossing where the roadway has now been moved to and the bridge in NBI just directly to the southeast. It is kind of hazy, but it does prove the evidence of my comment.
Found this neat old article from before the bridge's restoration:
Another article with a different picture:
Not sure if this is the same bridge but its the right stream and the right road:
Does anyone know when the Sulfur Creek Stone Arch was built?
The photo is pre-1964; you can tell that from the paint schemes on the locomotives, and the fact that the supports for the approach trestle are timber, not concrete. This would be before the bridge was raised and the approach trestle in question was reconstructed. It looks to me like a regular old timber trestle.
This is not the original structure. There used to be a viaduct that ran from the east side abutment over the old GM & O tracks (now UP) and went west towards MacArthur Blvd. that belonged to the Illinois Terminal RR. That structure was removed around 1970. Some years later, the IC RR purchased the old right of way and put in this bridge with a curved track going down to the south. It was designed to allow trains coming in from the south an access to the IC main line running around 18th Street. It followed the old IT line to just east of 11th Street where it then made a jog further south to bring the line into the 18th Street line. This eliminated the underpass that the IT used below the IC line just east of Fox Bridge Rd.
I take that last sentence back. From what I can tell, there are 300-500 train suicides per year out of 900 pedestrian trespassing deaths. So several hundred railroad trespassers die in accidents each year. Trains come quicker than you think, so don't waste any time getting the heck off the tracks
Some have asked what to do if you are caught in the middle of the trestle with a train coming. Well, obviously you shouldn't go out to the middle of it. If a train comes and kills you a lot of people won't feel sorry for you. Everyone on the Internet will call you stupid, and it would be horrible for your family. Just stay on the end of the trestle; the view is plenty good from there, and if a train comes you can just take a few steps and be gone. Now if you foolishly ignore my advice and a train comes, jumping off is suicide above 100 feet, but if you're close to the end it may be an option. If you're further out, the train may not be able to stop in time because they take about half a mile to stop, so if it starts to get close you have to lie down in between the tracks (face down is probably better) and let the train go over you. There's about ten inches of clearance so if you're obese you'll probably die. Make sure there is room for the wheels between you and the rails on either side. Two women survived this way out at Lake Lemon. There's no guarantee you won't die because things could be hanging down from the train, so this certainly isn't something to try for fun. This is serious stuff. 900 people die on the tracks per year, although the vast majority of those are suicides.
The through truss section was required to cross over a PRR branch to coal mines a few miles west of the bridge. The PRR line is now a rail trail. The bridge is still in use by the B&P. The first photo location is close to where my Grand-parents house was. I watched many B&O, Chessie and B&P trains here. I've also seen a couple PC and Conrail trains run through this area prior to that lines abandonment in the late 70's.
This bridge is not Doomed. This bridge can be saved. Did you hear me? This bridge is not doomed. this bridge is not doomed. This bridge is not Doomed. This bridge is not Doomed. This bridge is not Doomed. This bridge can be saved.
I still Think that this Bridge Can be saved Preferably as a
No truck Frontage Rd. Bridge. I really do not want this bridge to go anytime soon. I think it could stay up and running for another 10 or 15 Yrs. even after the New Bridge is In place. Please don't Let Them Demolish this Bridge. So I think this bridge can still be saved Preferably as a no truck Frontage Rd. Bridge for a back road.