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Posted March 21, 2017, by Dana & Kay

Art it is worth the trip! No one around and didn't want to trespass so didn't go on or under. Appeared to be in fine shape of course wood deck maybe on a 20 year time frame for replacement but of no significance. There were deer and human footptints leading to it but doesn't look like it sees vehicle traffic.

Bridge comment
Posted March 21, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

Well Douglas cool coincidence! Always appreciate your art. Want to go back to Erie Canal Fairport in season and get shots of it working.

Posted March 21, 2017, by Art S (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Awesome indeed! This one is on my bucket list to see. Wonder if they kept and stored the third truss line when they moved the bridge. I doubt it, but wouldn't put it past a farmer to do so.

If I recall, Nathan has some great and detailed shots of this one on his site.

Regards,

Art S.

Bridge Comment
Posted March 21, 2017, by Douglas Butler

Dana

I don't know that you just visiting the Erie Canal bridge

Posted March 21, 2017, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)
Posted March 21, 2017, by Douglas Butler

Then studied the inventors also since 2000 past 17 years as a student then I drawn just about every single movable bridge type rolling lift bascule bridges heel trunnion bascule bridges bascule bridges single and double leaf double decker bridges lift and swing bridges so I came across bridge hunter and that is the Great source of inspiration for bridges especially with maps

Posted March 21, 2017, by Douglas Butler

Well as a kid grown up in Ohio I

started drawn ore loaders and ships after I had a dream of a rail bridge of a jackknife type then few days later I seen the actual structure in the raised position abandoned next to Jefferson street and West 3rd street. I started drawidrawing this particular bridge and years later at 12 years old I explore this bridge and ironic this railroad bascule bridge had the counterweight high up above the tracks. Then I explore another bridge next to the Lorain Carniege bridge years later I studied movable drawbridge types around the United States and Canada and foreign bridges at the university library

Posted March 21, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

Douglas how did you know we were visiting this bridge today? Now that's bridge hunting!

Posted March 21, 2017, by John Goold (BlueWilliamus [at] yahoo [dot] com)

8520 Hubbard Valley Rd, Seville, OH 44273 is the address of the property.

Posted March 21, 2017, by Dana & Kay

Visited this bridge today, AWESOME! Clearly and prominently marked as private. All photos from public right of way using digital zoom tech. Kudos to whomever preserves this one.

Posted March 21, 2017, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Location?

Posted March 21, 2017, by J.P. (wildcatjon2000 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Construction starting soon.

Posted March 21, 2017, by Brian Manville

Thanks for the essay Sherman Cahal. I grew up not far from there and passed it about 100,000 times in my youth.

Posted March 21, 2017, by John Goold (BlueWilliamus [at] yahoo [dot] com)

I don't know if this bridge was moved or preserved in place but it is a good one.

Posted March 21, 2017, by Douglas Butler

Hey Dana

so what got you interested in bridges?

Posted March 21, 2017, by Douglas Butler

What's the update of this blue bridge of this rolling lift type?

Posted March 21, 2017, by Douglas Butler

Do any of you know the update about this Strauss rail bridge is it removed or remain abandoned in the raised position?

Posted March 21, 2017, by Michael Quiet (mquiet [at] gmail [dot] com)

Found a few additional pics in my trawling of the internet. This bridge was a fascinating little bit of engineering!

https://jaystravelog.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/ac-26a-long...

https://jaystravelog.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/ac-26-long-...

We can glean a few additional facts:

-The builders plaque looks to be a Groton Bridge Co. (Fits for the area)

-The truss webbing follows a Baltimore/Pennsylvania configuration

-The upper/lower chord configurations suggests that this is operating more as a cantilever then a straight suspension. Note the inversion in both the upper and lower chords from tension/compression to compression/tension (respectively) when it comes to the suspended span (I love how easy it to see what members to what in pin-connected bridges).

Thoughts on this?

PennDot bridge repair-Oley Turnpike Road
Posted March 21, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

As per an article printed in the Reading Eagle on 3-21-17 Oley Turnpike Road,located at the border of Exeter and Oley townships Pa will be closed as of 3-20-17 at the village of Limekiln Pa while PennDot crews repair a bridge over the Monocacy Creek.The bridge will be closed for the duration of the project which is expected to be finished in May.Posted detours are Route 562 and Limekiln Road.PennDot officials said this work is part of a $6,827,834 project to repair 15 structures in Berks County.The bridge was constructed in 1963.It is 34 feet long and 43 feet wide.Daily traffic on this section of Oley Turnpike Road averages 1,833 vehicles.

Posted March 21, 2017, by David Case

This bridge isn't much to look at from the roadbed, but is very pretty underneath.

Posted March 20, 2017, by Nathan Holth (nathan [at] historicbridges [dot] org)
Posted March 20, 2017, by Dennis Osborne (partsboss46 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Seems to me I remember as a child this bridge either getting widened or replaced.. late 1960s/70s

Thoughts?

Posted March 20, 2017, by Randy (rlaguire [at] gmail [dot] com)

Can anyone tell if this bridge is the Monon High bridge or the Wildcat Creek Trestle?

Posted March 20, 2017, by David Case

This is a neat bridge. I used to enjoy seeing it as a child traveling down I-77 in my parents car. I was fortunate to be able to visit it in person in March of 2017. I will not add photos as it is well represented here. I don't know how much longer this bridge will be around. It is not in real good structural condition.

Watts Mill Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 20, 2017, by Art S (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Dave,

If the intent is to reopen the crossing for vehicular use, there are three options:

1)The bridge can be restored to its original specifications. This would be adequate for cars but will likely not be deemed a practical solution.

2)the new crossing could be located up or down stream of the old bridge allowing it to be preserved in place - the lowest cost / best historic integrity option from a preservation perspective. However, this adds potential complications and cost to the new bridge that the governmental agencies will try to avoid.

2) The alternative is to relocate the bridge. This reduces the historical context and adds cost/complexity but ensures the bridge will be preserved (the old Meadville, PA Mead Ave. Bridge is an ongoing example of this).

If there is no intention of opening the crossing to vehicular traffic and converting this to a pedestrian crossing is desired by all, then things get a lot easier.

What help are you seeking?

Regards,

Art S.

Salem Road Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 20, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

As per an article printed in the Reading Eagle on 3-20-17 Berks County commissioners are working with Bethel and Tulpehocken townships to preserve this bridge.Damage to the wingwalls is a concern but what is really damaging this bridge is the idiots who drive construction equipment and tractor-trailers over this bridge which isn't rated weightwise for this bridge.Outside of posting signs,wouldn't a headache bar be a good idea to keep the heavy trucks off of these bridges?

Berown's Station Way bridge over Silver Creek Clark Co Indiana
Posted March 20, 2017, by Marc Troutman (andy47 [at] windstream [dot] net)

Trying to find the date that the bridge over Silver Creek from New Albany IN to Clarksville IN via Brown's Station Way (old Hwy 62) was built. Thanks.

Lebanon County Pa bridges being replaced
Posted March 20, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

As per an article in the Reading Eagle printed on 3-19-17 work will start today to replace the bridge over Elizabeth Run just east of Rte 343 in the village of Fredericksburg in Bethel Township,Lebanon County.This bridge will be replaced one side at a time according to PennDot.Also as part of the $2.59 million bridge replacement contract the Mount Zion Rd Bridge over Deep Run Creek will be replaced.Work will start on April 10th and will take 88.Both bridges should be reopened by mid September.I looked and didn't see these bridges listed on Bridgehunters.

Carr's tunnel
Posted March 20, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Thanks for the information,Dana and Kay.I'll find that tunnel.

Posted March 20, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Thanks Robert.That's the one.

Posted March 20, 2017, by David Case

This bridge has been replaced and is no longer with us.

Posted March 20, 2017, by David Case

This bridge is closed. An attempt was made to barricade it to all traffic, including foot traffic.

Posted March 20, 2017, by Beth Hines (hinesbeth2 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This bridge has started to fall. I took this photo sometime around October 2016.

Watts Mill Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 19, 2017, by Dave Holoweiko (egnatz1 [at] aol [dot] com)

Yes made by Penn bridge in Beaver Falls . We have the plate from the bridge in our collection at our museum will have to find it. The bridge will never be opened to traffic again and will not be rebuilt if torn down .However we are hoping it can be repaired enough to use as a pedestrian bridge as the North Country trail runs right by this site and has many users. We are getting all the local history organizations involved and have the local state rep on our side to save it. hopefully the state will see that tearing it down is not the answer.

Watts Mill Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 19, 2017, by Art S. (asuckewer [at] knite [dot] com)

Could the builder be TB White & Sons (Penn Bridge Works) which moved from New Brighton to Beaver Falls, PA in 1878?

Dave,

Is there a group of local citizens willing to work towards preservation? If the bridge was restored, how would it be used?

Regards,

Art S.

Posted March 19, 2017, by Steve LaBonte (mv_jct [at] yahoo [dot] com)

The Ceiling looking west.

Posted March 19, 2017, by Brandon Cooper

Another interesting structure with a junction joining on the bridge. One of my favorite parts of my Pittsburgh Mainlines DVD.

Posted March 19, 2017, by Brandon Cooper

I got a DVD of railroad action in Pittsburgh in the days prior to the combined NS/CSX takeover of Conrail and this bridge was featured early on in the DVD.

Interesting bridge as the rails are recessed into the girder structure. I can't figure out why it was designed that way in the first place, but it makes for an interesting video seeing the trains look like they are sinking.

Watts Mill Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 19, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

Dave if you are near this bridge some photographs might help. I am not an engineer but know 2 things that are issues with old bridges. In layman's language look for pieces that are corroded so that there full original dimension has changed. Also look where two pieces plates parts etc meet. Is there rust in between these pieces? Those with knowledge on here call this section loss and pack rust. They are NOT a death sentence to a bridge but would impact any restoration. Your mission, photos, just use phone if need be , post on this forum.

Posted March 19, 2017, by Steve LaBonte (mv_jct [at] yahoo [dot] com)

West Face April 2016

Watts Mill Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 19, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

If for some reason you haven't heard of them google Bach Steel...............

Watts Mill Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 19, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

Keep us in the loop!

Watts Mill Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 19, 2017, by Dave Holoweiko (egnatz1 [at] aol [dot] com)

the bridge has been closed to traffic for years . But we can't let them take this one down . It is one of the last bridges left built by the West Penn Bridge company. I was just informed that our local state Rep will be meeting the Department of transportation in the coming week to discuss options how we can save the old girl.

Watts Mill Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 19, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Nice! A continuous pony truss - and a very old one at that! I would hate to see this one disappear. It is quite the rarity, I would think.

Posted March 19, 2017, by Robert Thompson (rkt [dot] engineering [at] gmail [dot] com)

The one upstream of Burger Boat? Yes, I've posted that one.

Watts Mill Bridge (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 19, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

NRHP listed ! Dave not sure how to help but don't let this bridge disappear! Sure some of the more knowledgeable bridge savers in PA could give guidance . SAVE THAT BRIDGE!

Watts Mill Bridge Cannelton PA
Posted March 19, 2017, by Dave Holoweiko (egnatz1 [at] aol [dot] com)

Hello everyone I'm on the board of directors of Little Beaver historical Society in Darlington PA. We were just informed today that the Watts Mill Bridge in the Cannelton section of Darlington is on the list of bridges to be demolished next year by the PA Dept of Transportation. For those that don't know the The Watts Mill Bridge is a pin-connected Pratt pony truss bridge located over the Little Beaver Creek in Cannelton, Pennsylvania, United States.

The bridge was constructed in 1878 by the West Penn Bridge Company, based in nearby Beaver Falls PA.

We want to spread the word to prevent the demolition of this historic bridge.

Posted March 19, 2017, by Linda Smith (smithsrus [at] gmail [dot] com)

Aerial photos of Hannah Ward Bridge taken March 2017

Posted March 19, 2017, by Nick Schmiedeler

Sure, Robert - sending now. Thanks

Posted March 19, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

Doug believe this is your bridge.

Posted March 18, 2017, by Christopher Finigan

The tree tunnel and surrounding forest are actually that of the Coast Redwood (Sequoia Sempervirens), which are the tallest trees on Earth.

Posted March 18, 2017, by Douglas Butler

This railroad bascule bridge is similar to the B&O South Chicago rail bridge Baltimore warren truss was also struck few times then was removed in 1955. Much in common however the whole bridge was completely removed before the B&O Calumet River rail drawbridge only has the span torn from its supports in 1988 leaving but a counterweight bridge tower

Posted March 18, 2017, by walter murrow (walter [dot] murrow [at] hotmail [dot] com)

This bridge was replaced recently

Posted March 18, 2017, by Glen Mallory (mailglenmallory [at] gmail [dot] com )

I, too, grew up in Paradise. I loved the swimming hole at the Nelson Bar Bridge. However, the bridge was not used "until the day the lake took it." The steel girder bridge was dismantled and removed before the lake filled. When the lake is high enough, the waterway is navagable beyond the former location of the bridge. It would have become a major navigation hazzard.

During dry years, I have walked down to the bridge site of with boys. The deep swimming hole is completely silted in. The big rocks are only 10' high above the silt.

Posted March 18, 2017, by Douglas Butler

Yep that's correct it was a McDonald's drive thru prank

Carr's tunnel
Posted March 18, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

RR forum gives loci as off Laurelview Drive Donahue road in Greensburg PA. I cant spot it from Sat view.

Carrolltown tunnel
Posted March 18, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Got some more information about this tunnel.It was a joint operation between the P.R.R. and NYC railroads.

Carr's tunnel.
Posted March 18, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Has anyone ever heard of a tunnel named Carrs Tunnel also known as Witches Tunnel?Saw a video on this tunnel which is flooded when i viewed it and can't be entered with waders at least and am asking if anybody has any information on this tunnel since i don't see it on Bridgehunter but it is on Wikipedia with limited information.Would be nice to put this tunnel on this site.The video also revealed it was a p.r.r. tunnel.

Posted March 18, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

That's the one,Dana and Kay.Thanks for answering that question.

Quemahoning Tunnel (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 18, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Just saw a video on You-Tube about this tunnel.Very informative and the people did not go in it.Tunnel entrance wasn't too big.

Posted March 18, 2017, by Anonymous

Is that why he only makes himself appear on McDonalds food nowadays?

Posted March 18, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

George This may be the one you see, cool bridge!

Posted March 18, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

I noticed if you follow the rail line that this bridge is on there is an abandoned truss bridge between Revere Dr and Michigan Ave.Is this bridge on Bridgehunters?

Posted March 18, 2017, by Anonymous

........back to that same old place, sweet home Chicago.......

Posted March 18, 2017, by Douglas Butler

God used the ship to hit this rail bascule bridge for the fact the blues brother's had a saying quote they're never get caught they're on the mission from God and God is not mocked Galatians 6:7, now I see why the Pontokratis ship had struck it in May of 1988 because of that quote!

Posted March 18, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

Thanks, requested deletion. Added image to previously listed

Posted March 18, 2017, by John Marvig

Bridge has been added previously but is actually in Griggs County.

Love the old postcard!

Posted March 18, 2017, by Douglas Butler

They're only six railroad Abt types are in use for as 3 in Michigan and 3 in California and one been removed in Texas.

Posted March 18, 2017, by Dana and Kay Klein

Thanks Andy!

Posted March 18, 2017, by Will Truax (Bridgewright [at] gmail [dot] com)

Closed after an inspection Friday, though it is said the recommendation is for repair.

http://www.bannergraphic.com/story/2395290.html

Mystery
Posted March 17, 2017, by Don Morrison

My first thought was the frame of a floating dock in that the cylindrical parts may slide on posts driven into the river/lake bottom. Deck and pontoons/barrels missing.

Just a guess, hard to judge scale from pic as well.

Bridge comment
Posted March 17, 2017, by Anonymous

Hook a chain to it PULL!

Mystery
Posted March 17, 2017, by Julie Bowers (jbowerz1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Is it a bridge truss?

Bridge replacements over I-78 in Pa.
Posted March 17, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

As per an article in todays Reading Eagle the Northkill Rd bridge over I-78 in Upper Tulpehocken Township which was due to be closed and replaced with a taller version in a few weeks unfortunately was hit by a tall piece of equipment hauled on a tractor trailer.This means the project to replace the bridge will start sooner than expected.The Northkill Bridge is 1 of 7 spans over I-78 being replaced as part of a $108 million series of projects.3 bridges have already been replaced being Midway Rd,Power Dr and 4 Points Rd.Scheduled for replacement along with Northkill Rd are Rte 183,Mountain Rd and Airport Rd.The Airport Rd bridge was removed early after it was hit by a large piece of construction equipment being hauled on a trailer in 2014.The aim is to stop the accidents to the bridges and raise the height to 16 feet which is the federal standard.The replacements will start this spring.I am not sure if any of these bridges are on Bridgehunters.

Posted March 17, 2017, by Douglas Butler

That is a Strauss heel trunnion railroad bascule bridge of a Lower Buffalo River Drawbridge that's not a Scherzer type rolling lift bascule bridge.

PennDOT matching bridge funding
Posted March 17, 2017, by george oakley (georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

As per an article printed in todays Reading Eagle 3-17-17 Penndot will match the fees that counties in Pa raise from the $5 motor vehicle registration fees which can amount up to $2 million a year for bridge projects.So far only 14 out of 67 counties have been involved in this program.This program can work and also improve Pas infrastructure greatly.Hopefully all 67 counties will follow suit.I will let you know any further news i get on this.

Posted March 17, 2017, by Topher (ksufan88 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Satellite imagery on Google Maps shows a portion of this bridge is still intact north of the new bridge.

Posted March 17, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Nick:

Do you have an e-mail address? Could you send me a P.M?

Robert

Posted March 17, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Thanks, John. I haven't had much chance to bridgehunt in that region. This design is almost non existent in Kansas, save for this example.

Posted March 17, 2017, by Nick Schmiedeler

Guessing turn-of-the-century on this one.....any input? Would say in this case it needs to be taken down, just too far gone - potential danger for sure - don't know how many other kayaks traverse this stretch or folks troll down to fish here but seriously looks like any minute now it's coming down. Love some other thoughts on this one.

Posted March 16, 2017, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Robert,

There are several examples of this type of bridge further north. The Chicago & North Western and Rock Island both loved this design.

http://bridgehunter.com/il/kane/bh51072/

http://bridgehunter.com/il/lasalle/marseilles-nabisco/

http://bridgehunter.com/wi/washington/lammscapes-railroad/

Posted March 16, 2017, by Anonymous

south Park and DLW draw

Posted March 16, 2017, by Jay Bissell (jay_54714 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This bridge is closed now (March, 2017.)

Posted March 16, 2017, by Douglas Butler

Is there some pictures somewhere of this second railroad Scherzer rolling lift bridge of the upper Buffalo River? There's a Nickel Plate Scherzer type in the raised position abandoned next to the CP Buffalo Creek Strauss Heel Trunnion Bascule Bridge

Posted March 16, 2017, by Mark W Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

No longer exists, has been replaced by a new bridge

Posted March 16, 2017, by Mark W Brown (markwbrown66 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Does anyone know if this was the bridge in place when the Jefferson Highway went through the area.

Posted March 16, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Awesome! Local support for bridges is paramount. So many preservation success stories begin with grassroots efforts.

Posted March 16, 2017, by Nick Schmiedeler

A friend just sent me this photo, the locals really like to decorate that thing up all different kinds of ways throughout the year, very cool

Posted March 16, 2017, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Nice pony

Posted March 16, 2017, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Wish all of our historic spans got this kind of Love!

Posted March 16, 2017, by Marcia Lee (dmml5152 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

You should see her when the neighbors deck her out for the holidays.........she is beautiful!!

Posted March 16, 2017, by Nick Schmiedeler

This one is past-schedule to collapse. Very precarious - it's hard to see from the photos but there are crushed automobiles jammed underneath the bridge supports, have no idea how this was done. Leaning heavily all over, crumbling abutments, this one will not make it, guaranteed....wow what a sight....in with a kayak on a pretty day, worth the trouble.

Posted March 16, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

This one has been altered a bit, but it is still a great pony truss. Nice find!

Posted March 16, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Well, that is too bad. Overall, Geary County has done a great job of preserving historic bridges. I would have liked to have seen this one.

Posted March 16, 2017, by Nick Schmiedeler

Nice survivor - access could not be easier (eventhough we brought kayak on this trip for deeper, buried bridges) - this one is just a few feet off of Assyria Road, juststep out of your car and enjoy

Posted March 16, 2017, by Nick Schmiedeler

This one has recently been replaced. Looks like a piece of the old pony decking sitting off to the side of the new bridge.

Posted March 16, 2017, by Nick Schmiedeler

Bridge is no longer open, or existing- has recently been removed and replaced with slab. Sad.

Posted March 16, 2017, by Nick Schmiedeler

Interesting abutments on this one....packed tight, and also, crumbling. Pretty spot.

Posted March 16, 2017, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

What a great find! I would say that the Kansas Default Date of ca. 1910 is probably not far off in this instance.

I have found throughout my travels that locals often take great pride in their bridges.

Posted March 16, 2017, by David Jones (david2jpix [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This bridge is on private property.


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