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Cool story of respect for a fallen soldier!
From The Mound Valley Journal, 25 Jan 1918:
John Shy Died At Doniphan
Another soldier boy is dead of pneumonia and this time it is a Labette county boy. John W. Shy, a son of C. W. Shy, who lives six miles southeast of Mound Valley, died Monday night at Camp Doniphan and the body was brought to Angola Thursday morning and the funeral services will be held at 1:00 o'clock today (Friday) at the Angola church.
My grandfather, Robert Pense of Winslow , Arkanasas, helped build the Winslow Tunnel. He was renowed in his community for his skill with an ax. My dad, Carl Pense, started jumping on the train in the tunnel at the age of about 12, riding to another community and buying a horse and small herd of cattle and taking them back to Winslow to sell. He moved to Illinois as a young man and became a successful farmer and livestock dealer, in spite of the fact that he never learned to read or write. Dad was killed in a truck accident in 1989 at the age of 72.
The bridge crossed the river and the railroad. It never carried tracks.
New photos don't seem to match the current structure. Photo 5 shows a three span slab with columns. The new photos show two spans with solid piers.
The height of the bridge is 130' over the river. It was the second highest bridge on the Boston & Maine when built. Clinton (MA) viaduct was 133'.
Viaduct is still there in 2019, coverd in several hundred pounds of blackberry bushes and tree limbs strewn all over. Would be mighty white if Columbia County would restore this crown piece of the Lower Columbia River Highway before it does suffer moderate to severe structural and topside damage.
Can someone fill me in on the history of the Railroad connection? It says the bridge once carried a railroad....what happened to that alignment? Is it the one that went to FLW or is it the mainline that goes through Jerome from Frisco? Just curious to know the origin.
Old Champ Clark bridge to finally close for all traffic on August 22 and deck removal to start soon thereafter.
George, it is not listed.
I will post this to share that the creek I lived and played by was "Garrett Creek". The RR Tressel crossed over Garrett Creek and we played on the Wabash Railroad and on the Tressle Bridge many times -- One day, Me and the "boys" from the "hood" nearly got ran over by an East bound frieght train while on the Bridge. The ties were spread about 18 inches apart and not easy to run across when a train is about to end your life! I took a dive at the end of the Tressel into the "cinder bed" and got all scraped up but was glad that Angel shoved me off the tracks in the nick of time! Whew! Thank You Jesus for watching over me "Sooo many times"!
Melissa,Wikipedia is where I read earlier the tribute about the bridge being named in his honor.I forgot to mention that.I was just wondering if this bridge is on Bridgehunters?
I was reading an article about the Allman Brothers Band and how much Greg Allman's guitar sold for.Anyway,i looked up all of the band members and saw that a bridge on State Highway 19 in Macon,Georgia was named in Mr. Oakleys honor.Does anybody know of this or heard of this?I never heard of this.By the way,i don't think i'm related but who knows?Anything's possible.
The New Point Bluff Bridge as is it's called Is Now open to Traffic. The Old Bridge will be removed by the end of the year. The Bridges Official name is the Point Bluff Bridge.
Wow another beautiful memorable historical truss being needlessly destroyed. What a waste of tax payer dollars. As if they couldn't locate the new slab of cement a little way up the river and leave the beautiful historic truss up as at least a foot bridge. Wasting money and destroying our legacies of the past seems to be a hallmark of this dreadful present day!
Wow, this is one of the longest suspension bridges I've seen that's this narrow. Maybe one of the longest bridges period that's this narrow.
14.7', I guess two cars of the era could fit past each other but it'd be tight. Two modern cars wouldn't be able to pass.
Yes, you can certainly make it a blog. The three photos are the best we have.
Thanks Dana and Kay for posting this bridge.I noticed stone walls on both sides of the one side of the bridge.Don't know if they're original stone walls.On the other side of the bridge I noticed a square pattern in the railing.Never noticed that before and don't know what that's for.Maybe somebody might know.
Thanks for posting this bridge,Dana and Kay.
Thanks Dana and Kay.Me and my nephew went hunting for crawfish around this bridge when he was a teenager many years ago.Fishing stunk anyway.
There were some other counties that built stringer bridges using MSHD's unusual railing design that was normally reserved for use on truss bridges. Two examples:
The earlier article was printed in the Bucks County Courier Times.
I read an article about repair of this bridge which started 8/19/19 and will continue until late September.Thatcher Road will be closed between Axe Handle and Erie Roads.I am familiar with this bridge having lived in Quakertown.Can't forget seeing this bridge being that my sisters ex-husband and his family lived on Thatcher Road.
I found information about this bridge which crosses over the East Branch of the Perkiomen Creek being repaired recently while reading the article about the Main Street bridge over SEPTA tracks being closed for rehabilitation.I went on street view and saw it being repaired.Easy to find being that it's by the firehouse.
In the same article I read the bridge rehabilitation involves removing the concrete deck,sidewalks and pedestrian railings in order to repair,strengthen and paint the single-span pony truss.The bridge deck,sidewalks,and abutment back walls will be replaced and the pedestrian railings will be repaired,reinforced and reinstalled.I don't remember seeing it but this bridge is posted with a 15 ton limit.
The Little Salt River is winding and Isabella Road ends up crossing it three times; this is the middle of the three bridges.
In checking through records, I've found up to six examples of this unique-to-the-County bridge design that existed in Isabella County; now, only two, maybe three, remain.
Nathan has a detailed look at this one on Historic Bridges.
The other one for sure is on Pickard Road: http://bridgereports.com/1251192
The one I'm less certain about is on Rolland Road, south of the bridge linked here: http://bridgereports.com/1251147 The StreetView there is older and the bridge in question isn't listed; it's probably too small.
Found an article in the Perkasie News-Herald stating that this bridge closed on 8/19/19 until 10/1920.Loftus Construction Co was warded the $4,695,000 contract.Like I said earlier I am familiar with the detours being Rtes 152,309 and 563.If Alexander wouldn't have mentioned this bridge closure I wouldn't have ever found out about it so I give my thanks to Alexander.Weird thing that they mentioned was that SEPTA owns the tracks which they stopped passenger service many years ago and now it's only a freight line that deadends in Quakertown.I thought Norfolk/Southern or East Penn owns the rail tracks which would make sense.
It is possible to reach the other side of the bridge by first crossing the Earl Vickers bridge and drive south along the river to Deepwater. From there the road gets choppy but scenic, with a rather large rockwall flanking your right with the river on your left. I've never encountered any traffic on this stretch. It's sad, but it looks like this bridge has a bleak future.
I have some records for Southern Pacific trusses built between 1880 and the early 1900s. I will take a look and see what I can come up with and get back to you.
Most sources report that this bridge was originally erected over "Gienega Creek," south of San Jose. I am wondering where that information comes from, if only because there is no "Gienega Creek," in California (nor anywhere else that I can locate). There is a Cienega Creek, near Monterey, CA but I'm not convinced it ever would have required a 120-foot railroad bridge or that one was ever built. Any help would be appreciated!
Tony, you're too sweet! Thank you !
Thanks to Alexander I looked this bridge closure up and see the bridge is being rehabbed rather than replaced which is good to know.I am originally from Quakertown and know this bridge very well.I don't see any problems with detours around this bridge being that I've driven over most of the roads around the bridge.
Another Gem pulled from the archives by our talented Bridgehunter detective Melissa!
Not necessarily Nick. I have seen many state highway design ponies in Indiana from the 1930's that have them. Of course these built from angles are far less interesting as the fluted cruciform ones from the 1870's-1880's!
Most of what I'm seeing in the pics leads me to it being wrought iron Daniel. The next time I'm in the vicinity I will try to visit it in person.
Yes, it would appear that a truss bridge somewhere in the vicinity died before this slab was built...
I'm looking for more information but most of it revolves around fish lol
Given the build date, this is an ingenious use of old parts when new stuff couldn't exactly be built due to the war effort.
The floor beam truss supports are what are being referenced as cast. The fact that trussed floor beams are used (and still remain!) suggest an early bridge. My gut says early to mid 1880s.
Anyone have a guess as to the maker?
This is most certainly a reuse of former bridge beams. Note the unused angle and empty rivet holes, and gaps in the lacing pattern near end of some beams. They are most likely vertical members from a truss bridge. The only mystery here is where they came from.
That is unusual. I can't see the lacing providing much benefit here, and it costs a significant amount.
I'd be very surprised if it was anything other than reuse.
I don't see anything here that makes me think cast iron rather than steel. The general construction style looks far newer than 1870s to me.
The only component I see that might be cast is on the floor beam, holding the tension member down.
Do you have any Pictures of them? It would be nice to see them here. I can also write a mystery Bridge article for my blog if you would like?
Hi, Have you seen the use of lattice stringers on a timber bridge before? Could they have been reused from a former structure?
1915 getting a little late for outriggers it seems
Emailing him directly would probably get you the answers you're looking for.
In addition to the now-possible view (see the latest photo), an additional off-ramp that leads to Uptown Bay City - south of McKinley Street - is to be constructed in the coming months.
Maybe I am seeing things, but it almost looks to me like the transverse floor beams might have some cast-iron components. If so, that might even put this thing back in the 1870s.
Wondering if its still available and the cost, I am looking for a pedestrian bridge for kids to cross a highway to access the trails in a county park. Thanks !
Mike, I Love the family history !!!
My family have spent a lot of time on and around this old bridge. I used to transport my twin daughters across by having them wrap there arms around my neck while I crossed (one at a time, of course). They are grown now and can traverse it by themselves. My youngest boy would never take my help. He's going into the army next month and one of my daughters is getting married early next year. They are not getting so old that they didn't want to do a little "family hike", as we just recently went back for a visit.
Abandoned and falling apart my two favorite things LOL
Love this bridge!
The unusual built-up floor beams, lower connections and light verticals composed of back-to-back channels riveted together suggest an 1880's bridge to me.
Would be an ideal candidate to move to a park or trail!
Tony, thank you for mapping this!
I stopped by yesterday. Access to the road on the South side has been fenced/gated not far from the new bridge, so the only place to see it from is the existing road (and the smaller road between the river and the existing road). I'd been hoping to be able to get closer than there.
Has anyone ever seen a photo of the complete bridge? I've searched through the Boone County museum's M&NA collection, and on line, finding nothing. There is one photo, taken from onboard a freight train, but nothing of the bridge itself.
Oh, yeah oops sorry, my mistake. But you can see why THEY ARE BOTH UGLY SLABS OF CONCRETE THAT REPLACED TWO UNIQUE BRIDGES!!!!!
Nathan Hoth your article you shared isnít even about this bridge.
Good pics, in area I've have focus on. I'm searching for the "Dickerson's Bridge" site, very close by, slightly up steam, but before Tabb's Creek. Troop movements crossed bridge 5/1/1865, but other troop movements mention it being washed out 5/3/165. Did you happen to see any other man made structures in area?
The "west tower and two remaining truss spans" were removed in the summer of 1968, not 1984 - the 1984 date is when the towers and spans of the old Dumbarton Bride to the south were removed.
Already added: https://bridgehunter.com/ny/nassau/7709460/
I read an article today in the local paper where I live that Skyline Drive is closed between Pricetown Road(Rte 12) and Blankenbiller Road in Alsace Township,Pa after a July 17 deluge flooded the area causing a pipe under the Skyline Drive Bridge to collapse.This caused PennDOT to close Skyline Drive.On Thursday afternoon PennDOT received a permit from the state Department of Environmental Protection to replace the pipe which will be delivered the week of August 26.PennDOT estimates it will take one week to replace the pipe.I was able to see this bridge which I think is maybe a culvert on street view.I'm not sure but maybe somebody else can look at this bridge which crosses Bernhart Creek.
You are missing nothing; this is most definitely a Pratt deck truss. T-DOTís region #1 resident bridge engineer clearly has no idea what heís talking about.
Open to pedestrians but must be given permission from the owner.
O.K. I just read Calvin's update log of 31 December 2009.
I see Pratt deck, no polygonal, no Warren, and definitely no through.
Tell me what I'm missing here.
Hmmm... that picture got me thinking (not usually a good thing 8^).
Interesting that this appears to be a classic upright pratt truss with floor beams at the top chord, even on the hip joints.
I usually think of a pratt deck truss as an inverted (ie - bottom chord shorter) pratt design, or maybe having vertical ends. Perhaps additional vertical structure at the end has obscured the "prattness" of some to me.
A look thru the bridges in the "pratt deck truss" category shows some more examples and a few that seem not to be.
Maybe a bit of confusion by the person who created a given bridge page or my own confusion, but I would call this a warren with alternating verticals (verticals on the ends as well):
This one has that "prattness" with vertical ends and is shown as such under design, but the overview says Warren. I don't see Warren in it.
One of my favorites since the mid 1980s has a pratt deck truss span, even if obscured somewhat by being subdivided and having vertical ends. It's all in the slope direction of the diagonals:
Opening dedication 1897
This is one of prettiest Kings Iíve ever seen!
Something something "Good frames won't save bad paintings" something something
Hence the old adage, ďyou canít polish a turd.Ē
I don't know which is worse, the fact that MoDOT is trying to disagree with people who say this bridge is BORING or that MoDOT actually is wasting tax dollars putting decorative lighting on this UGLY SLAB OF CONCRETE.
Current state of earth dam and what is waiting behind it.
Some good news, this bridge has been relocated and is being preserved. The TV reports provided some additional history of the bridge and I have estimated the new location based on review of camera shots to be here: 34.896302, -86.445062
A couple of phone calls and emails later, I have learned the bridge was scrapped. No federal money was involved so no Section 106 review. I saw a one page 2013 report which stated the load limit was 9 tons and there was no irreparable damage or deterioration. I don't know why it was closed or removed. The State Historic Preservation Office was notified but has no power to halt such a project.
Either that "Horse traffic" really picked up in the past 10 years or this was just another case of wasting Taxpayer money.
Did anyone actually take them up on re-using it anywhere?
I wonder what originally sat on the stone piers.
Thanks for the updated pics too! Still looks good 8 years later!
Only been 8 years, but you're welcome.😁
Yes I agree strongly. Especially considering its similar to the state standard design used in the 1930s, see this similar example from 1934: https://historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=v...
It looks older than 1963.
Do you know what happened with this bridge? What about the exact location of it?
This bridge got replaced in 2017 with a concrete structure.
This bridge was replaced several years ago now. I went kayaking 3 years ago, and there is no such bridge there anymore....
I was posting comments below as "anonymous", forgot to log back in until now
350 cars a day? There is nothing but a couple houses on the other side. Talk about an inflated ADT count. This bridge actually appears to have been cared for and now they want to scrap it? They say Ignorance is Bliss...
Mr. Crasher's pics from Yesterday would suggest it is.
Not surprised to hear whining from the Illinois side as that county has trashed any historic bridge that once existed within it's borders. An agreement was made that when Lake County was allowed to replace the Rangeline Road Bridge that the State Line Road Bridge would be rehabbed within 5 years, which is coming up soon. Wouldn't surprise me if they try to weasel out of it! It's a great recreation spot that could be made better with rehabilitation of the bridge and some road improvements and parking to the South.
Ö..another one 1960's
Is this bridge still standing? I found an article from 2018 saying it may come down.
This is probably one of the longest such pin connected truss bridges in the state/region, yet that is not saving it from demolition.
From the county website:
Cherry Lane Bridge, Sponsor: Nez Perce County, Key # 9070
Description: This is a bridge replacement project over the Clearwater River on Cherry Lane Road off US12 in Nez Perce County. Roadway approaches, including US12, will be improved as a part of the project.
Status: The project has environmental approval as of March 2015. The consultant submitted right-of-way plans and legal descriptions. The right-of-way negotiations are in process.
Project Manager: Scott Ellsworth
Construction Year: 2020
If I was one of the whopping 30 people (Cars) that crossed daily, I would sure as Hell rather look at a beautiful historic truss bridge than an ugly slab of concrete!
I could not find this bridge already listed? If I missed it and this is a duplicate let me know. Its imminently doomed. https://www.thefranklinnewspost.com/news/local/new-hardy-for...
Luke, they're up. Sorry, I was in Evansville all day yesterday.
This is a replacement, installed when Fall Creek Parkway was widened in the late 1970's or 1980's. The earlier bridge was the a plate girder pony truss with concrete facades. Does anyone know the date of replacement or details of the earlier bridge?