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Painted 2017, no indication that it will be replaced.
Once in a blue moon, the Astoria, OR side of this bridge is fogged in and you are certain you are on a bridge to nowhere when coming from Washington. It's spectacular and a bit scary.
104 year old bridge is listed for sale - but only for a couple of weeks. This looks like another City of Chicago gambit to circumvent Section 106 as fast as possible, just like with the nearby Division Street Bridge, right now! Demolition of this historic structure is likely very soon.
Why couldn't the City just maintain it, instead?
Just to the west of this bridge, the Ewana Box Company had a logging railroad which crossed the river. There are still a few rotted pilings at the site.
What did Della-ware? Why, she wore a brand New Jersey!
At the risk of engaging in Banter and contradicting local sources I would say I know little of Col. Tupper how ever he did have a sister named Della a fashionista. locals were heard to exclaim oh my what DID Della-Ware? On a serious note Dave did hit 12000 contributions. most Impressive! Thanks Dave for all you do!
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He had a very ironic professional position for a while:
Thanks LUKE! Long live Oliver R.
New Meredosia bridge is supposed to open this Tuesday.
Take the roof off the hothouse, mother--the corn is growing tall tonight!
I wonder what Col Tupper's wares were like. :')
The newspaper story said 1000 bushels of wheat in the trailer. I used to figure 60lb per bushel so 60k, 30T plus trailer and tractor.
Street view shows a sign posting tractor trailer combos max 17T, so probably the driver's insurance and ultimately the price of bread.
One summer years ago I hauled wheat and I remember the sense of urgency to get to the elevator and back, and a feeling of invulnerability when driving the back roads. I think if I had known anyone who had broken through I would have been more cautious.
Just for you, Dana/Kay
Google quietly pushed back their price increase until July 16. In the meantime I've re-enabled Street View.
James embedded street view back?
Bridge is own and operated By Nassau County DPW. 2nd rehab was performed approximately 2008, leaf decking and exspansion joint replacement
Thanks for making the journey Brian, these Tee Beams are RAPIDLEY disappearing. NBI says 1929 plaque 1926. Curious as to why.
I remember this bridge while growing up in Washingtonville lived in the park.
left in 1978 believe about time line closed. So sad seeing it in closed. Did you happen to see the steel plate on it with bridge information was wondering year it was built? Thank you so much for taking photos.
If you have an account, you can go in anytime and edit the bridge. If you're signed in, there should be a yellow button on the individual bridge's page that says "edit bridge". You can go in there and change the bridge type.
…………..Mr King a biscuit away from 12,000 contributions. WWOW!
Will delete MOB not old Bridge
I apologize. Upon my first visit several years back it looked like the stonework dated to the early 1880s, and I believe I got 1882 from the construction of the second rail line at this location. However, after closer inspection it appears that the bridge is similar in design to structures constructed later between 1895-1900. I’ve changed the date to Ca. 1900 for the meantime, but I believe there may be blueprints for the structure at the Chicago & North Western Historical Society. I apologize about the mixup.
This GPS marker is off. It's a bit deeper in the woods. I actually was able to find it but couldn't get down the cliff, so I parked at the very entrance of the park by the playground and snaked my way down there and followed the old traintrack trail. when I got out the other end that must be where the GPS coordinates was telling me to go to. Then I followed a wide path much wider than a walking trail and it took me out to the road and someones house where that side said no trespassing. I told the owner i was sorry i came in the park side and he was cool. So that guys entrance which is much easier to get to the tunnel seems like private property but also the way the ATVs get to it and it's a house with a gate right after that overpass car bridge.
I meant to put timber string but I accidentally put steel stringer and didn't check the page before I published it.
Both bridges were build in the same and by reading your comment and comparing the image to google street view imagery, I have found out that this is the actual location
of the two bridges not under Phillips Reservoir like I thought originally thought. Thank you for correcting the location.
What specifically did the author use to date the twin arch bridge? A dated stone? What? I've been trying for years to set a date on this bridge. The track came into Jewell in late 1880, so that meant IF 1882 is correct, this stone bridge is the second over the water.
This bridge will be dismantled next week hopefully it will be relocated and preserved instead being thrown in the scrap bin.
Further research uncovered the following from a NRHP MPS .pdf
Said .pdf: https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/64500544_text
Thank you, too, Luke. My friend and I found this bridge on a drive-about, back in 1998. You could still drive across it, then. I returned a few years later, to find the new bridge, but was thrilled to see that had left the old one in place.
Excellent find, Jimmy!
Considering there are several lattice girders scattered across Puerto Rico that were constructed by Eugene Rollin & Co., also of Braine-le-Comte, Belgium, I'd say that furthers my suspicions.
I would have to do a little more research, but off the top of my head, I can add to the conversation that Pont Turcot in Quebec http://historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=qu... was built by a Belgium company: Société Anonyme Internationale de Construction et d'Entreprises de Travaux Publics of Braine-le-Comte, Belgium. The company name translates via Google to "Anonymous Society International Building and Construction Companies" but somewhere I figured out a more accurate translation would be "International Engineering and Construction Company Limited." Given the name of the company I suspect they may have done business in other places too, perhaps here.
100% agree! My kids, who don't even give a crap about bridges, loved it!
I finally found a bit of info on Spanish Wikipedia that gives us a lead on who built the bridge, stating that construction work was subcontracted to the "Société d'Entreprises et des Constructions des Colonies Espagnoles"
And from there on, everything is in French, and my French is even more rudimentary than my Spanish is...
Then there's this Google Books lead that mentions that Belgian bridges could be had for 2/3rds the cost of an American span, which leads me to believe the French subcontractor was ordering Belgian bridges, probably from the same manufacturer that constructed all of the extant Lattice Girders.
Anyone have any insight? I know Nathan and Jason have done more work in Europe than anyone else.
Spanish Wikipedia link: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=https%3...
Google Books link: https://books.google.com/books?id=Y-RsAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA393&dq=P...
James, I have wanted to thank you for re-posting the swing bridge photos
Sad news, one span was lost to Hurricane Maria:
I had the pleasure of crossing this bridge yesterday. Worth the $1 you have to pay the toll troll.
The bridge is 1 lane but there wasn't much traffic so we did not have to wait.
One of the best bridges I've ever crossed. 9/10 would recommend to a friend.
This bridge has been in the news lately. I will try to attach some links when I'm on the computer. I'm having a little trouble attaching links from my smartphone tonight.
There has been a large Log Jam getting wedged against this bridge. There is always a danger that this could be used as a reason to demolish the bridge. That is exactly what happened with a Stone Arch Bridge in Chase County.
There is now a move under way to try to get this bridge listed in the National register of historic places. From what I understand, the County Commissioners are opposed to having the bridge listed.
Here's a rarity: Pin-connected truss built in the 1940s
I notice that the descriptions listed this as a "Steel Stringer" bridge. It was actually a wooden trestle. It replaced the original red bridge when the SVRwy laid heavier rails in order to run larger locomotives, such as their Mikados and the former Uintah mallets.
This bridge was constructed by Ing. Robert R. Prann,
the same that built the San Antonio Bridge i San juan
Is this possibly an old railroad bridge the company bought and reused?
Correction: I wasn't paying enough attention. Red Bridge 2 is what I had referred to as the Heavy Duty trestle. Sorry about that, chief!
Actually, the location shown is in error. Boulder Gorge, and the site of the Red Bridge 1, Red Bridge 2 and the heavy duty trestle that replaced the 2nd red bridge was several miles east of Philips Lake, and is not under water. Highway 7 still passes through the site. When I first visited the bridge site in 1977, It was easy to compare the rocks alongside the highway to the railroad photos and see that it was the same site. When they turned the county road into Highway 7 they widened the road to add shoulders and widen the lanes a little, and in doing so the rocks were cut back, so it is not quite as recognizable as it used to be. I could only find one of the concrete blocks that once supported the third bridge in the river. Attached is a Google satellite view with the actual location of Bolder Gorge and the bridge site marked.
Yep, looked like concrete until I got close and zoomed. They actually look like grey steel I-beams. "Concrete capped steel pilings".
I can confirm that the bridge rehabilitation contract has been awarded and that the pre-construction conference meeting has been scheduled. I suspect that construction activities will be starting shortly thereafter. The maintenance of traffic for Southbound US 41 during construction will likely be challenging for motorists; I hope that they will be patient, plan ahead, and give themselves extra travel time.
It's a common theme for Google Maps to mis-name streams when they get close to their confluences.
On the subject of the NBI, is anyone opposed to merging the 96 NBI data?
It seems fairly spot-on to me.
Whoops, didn’t even see that. The google street view must be old, as I thought the piles looked like concrete.
The vertical members are steel; they’re driven into the ground much the same as sheet piling; they’re simply referred to as driven piles. After they’re all driven, a concrete cap is installed on top for system unification and surface for attachments.
I’ve always heard it called concrete pile piers, so I would assume that would be the correct name, although I’m not absolutely sure.
Is their a name for this style of Pier? thanks
It looks like Google maps has misnamed this waterway.
USGS calls it Big Creek:
So this is probably the bridge Luke found in the 96 NBI.
Looking at Bing maps, it appears there are other former crossings on this stream, the bridges long gone, except for what appears to be a pipeline? bridge at 40.926256, -91.550704.
The 1996 NBI lists a closed bridge dating to 1903 over Big Creek:
Span length seems to match IMO.
interesting curved end railings on this TBEEM. Nice find James.
Seems to me that this bridge likely wasn’t originally built 1924. It looks like a late 1880s or early 1890s span to me. Without knowing much about the railroad, it appears to be possible that it was relocated to this site.
This one's for you, esp. those residing in Henry County. Can you help crack this case? The 97th mystery bridge takes us to Iowa, to Henry County, to a historic bridge over Skunk River that is unknown- no history, no record and no photos. Can you help solve this case? More here: https://bridgehunterschronicles.wordpress.com/2018/06/12/mys...
The Historic Bridge Foundation stated that the bridge came from County Road 469 over Cottonwood Creek in Hillsboro County. That might refer to this bridge: http://bridgehunter.com/tx/hill/91100AA0482001/
The Historic Bridge Foundation provided information indicating that this bridge was relocated to this location ca. 2005.
I was born and raised in this wonderful little town,. My father Bob Homan jumped off of this bridge when he and his brothers were young. It was a big part of my life! I cried along with my father when it was torn down . It was just a sign we were home when we drove across it!
This bridge is no more--replaced with a new one by Miami County.
I actually just found a Sanicula Springs bottle undamaged in my backyard. Dug it up accidentally.
Don't feel too bad, James. Because of the EU guidelines combined with new guidelines on privacy in the US, I'm not able to get access to most American news from over here in Europe and am therefore looking for some help for the Chronicles. Information on why this is going on can be found here:
EU and American social media guidelines hampering info traffic on the Chronicles. Read more on how you can help here: https://bridgehunterschronicles.wordpress.com/2018/06/11/con...
All I can say is so much for net neutrality. :-(
For now I simply renamed this bridge's builder from "West Penn Bridge Co" to "Penn Bridge Co." In reality I suspect there is some cleanup that needs to be done, as any bridge built before 1887 was technically part of a company formally organized as "Timothy B. White & Sons Company", often listed as "T. B. White and Sons of New Brighton, Pennsylvania", and often branded in literature and builder plaques as "Penn Bridge Works" with the company becoming "Penn Bridge Company in 1887. Yet just like King Iron Bridge Company and King Bridge Company, these are all the same people/company.
Hi, this bridge was renamed the 'Bataan Corregidor Memorial Bridge' in honor of World War II servicemen who fought in the Battle of Bataan and the Battle of Corregidor on Saturday, December 7 2013. ref: https://patch.com/connecticut/simsbury/bataan-corregidor-bri...
I would love to photograph this bridge. Does anyone know who owns the land? Is it owned by the Indiana Railroad or is it private property? I'm having a lot of trouble finding information.
Thanks for checking it out. Some of those arches can be rough to get to because of traffic or size of ditches.
Nothing left to show that a bridge was once there. I do know that Bridge Street did have a Through Truss we used to take when I was in High School (late 70's).
I fixed the coordinates on this bridge. It was listed at same location of IN 142 Little Rock Creek.
I returned today and rechecked. It is no longer an arch. The road is very busy and there is not much of an angle to get a good picture so sorry about crappy photos. The 142 Kivett and 142 Little Rock Creek bridges are still arches.
Thanks Chester. I appreciate the help. Im thinking Watts Mill should be changed.
According to Victor Darnell in his book "A Directory of American Bridge Building Companies 1840-1900"--The Penn Bridge Company is the only listing for Beaver Falls, 1868-1901. Also listed is a Western Pennsylvania Bridge Works in Pittsburgh for the year 1888. Not much help there.
In preparation for tomorrow's Google Maps Day of Reckoning, I've removed the embedded Street View widgets from all pages. Links are still provided to access the Street View imagery on Google's site.
I actually looked this up on google,not wikipedia.
I was just reading the Sunday paper and this bridge was in the ripley's believe it or not section in the comics section describing the bridge.Even though it's a newer bridge it has a dragon sculpture between the inbound and outbound lanes and it shoots flames and sprays water.That is so cool from the video I saw.If you get a chance check it out.
What is the difference between West Penn Bridge Co. and Penn Bridge Co.? Both seem to call Beaver Falls their home? Evidently, I was told this, the Fallston Bridge and Watts Mill are West Penn Bridge Co. Wiley is called Penn Bridge.
Well, at least the good folks of Chelsea, Vermont have a bridge that is neither astoundingly beautiful or horribly ugly. It's a halfway decent-looking utility bridge that does its job.
"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference."
Looks like the same bridge. Did you check to see if the arch was there?
There are no news articles or press releases; in my responsibilities as the Vincennes District Bridge Inspection Supervisor, I coordinate our inspection findings with the project managers who establish budget planning and proposed scopes of work. Contract plans and specs are done and this rehabilitation was already scheduled for letting earlier this year; contractors are likely working on their bid packages. This bridge is to get a new deck and heavily deteriorated steel components will get replaced in-kind.
Was able to get to the South side of the bridge and get some photos of the lift span and plaque. Couldn't get on the bridge so it's a cropped photo of the plaque.
Whoops, wrong bridge, non historic, not significant. COOL shot of deer in street view. Will delete...
NBI suggests this was likely abandoned circa 1962.
I was playing golf, yesterday, so I could only stop long enough for a quick snap with my phone, but you can see one of the support pillars, for the 601 bridge, in the foreground.
GREAT! Tell us about it!!! :-D Do you have an article?
When in railroad service, did this bridge have a solid floor or was the track timbers laid on the diagonal structural steel underneath?
$3.3 Million spent here instead of fixing the abysmal traffic flow between East Hooksett and the highway on-ramp. College Park Drive, Main Street, West River Road and Hackett Hill intersections could have all benefitted from $3.3 million in safety improvements.
This bridge is not scheduled to be dismantled. This bridge is scheduled for a comprehensive rehabilitation project.
To save a bridge in the location there has to be both political and grass roots support because these bridges are big projects that cost money.
If it stays where it is and only has grassroots support it has to have a revenue stream to support maintenance and liability insurance. Lead covered bridges are an expensive fix and something that if the feds are involved with they should pay for removal. It is in fact their choice and the lack of maintenance that left them in this shape. We will always avoid those if possible. Gasconade Bridge is that case where we thought the site (more than the bridges could offset that but 1.25 million just to get it clean of that lead and paint, before repairs is a big nut. You can't sell a restored bridge with lead paint on it and our gang can't work on that lead coated areas either. That kind of bridge however had potential as an attraction and the road so it had potential, but needed more than we have available. In reality 5 revenue streams are the better choice. Wellness, recreation, general store, the longest brewery in America, tolls if open for traffic, and business relationships with the locals.
If a bridges moves, the criteria are which ones work the best for size, use, and cachet.
And for us, at this point, working with political and funded bridges is key.
However we do believe there is an opportunity for a National Historic Truss Bridge Association that would pay an annual membership to help choose bridges that we can help. The math - 10,000 x 100 = 1,000,000 which goes a long way towards engineered plans, site visits that render numbers that go for decisions. We came up with that idea for Revive 66.
That would take a larger board of directors. In Pennsylvania, Wes Tate is starting the process to create a "board" to help with Craighead. If the folks that want to save Tanners Falls and Watts Mill. Those of you who are bridgehunters in Pennsylvania might want to join in on the grassroots. Craighead we own, we took no federal money and we are beginning the process to repair the beautiful stone approach with a master mason Andy at LimeWorksUS, to get the lead out and then get the crappy deck and roadway scrapped so that repair can begin to the lower cord.
Our nut is ever growing. To play with PennDot next year requires us to double our insurances to 160k. I don't know if we can get enough work, sell enough bridges to make that work, or continue the branding that brings awareness to keep this ball rolling.
We get up every day and keep trying. Be nice if some of you wanted to join the bigger effort, in every state there could be the HTBA, and the decisions become more local. give us a call if you want to participate.
The photo is my father and Nels, almost 9 years ago when we started the quest to save our bridge. We've learned by doing bits about engineering, bureaucracy, politics and the fact that these bridges are part of our history.
That's a very open ended question. I've been involved with a few rescues.
I'd say step 1. is, what is hoped for outcome:
- take it home,
- repurpose it for public use,
- convince others to spend their money to restore and maintain it for its original purpose.
Taking it home is nuts but fun.
Julie seems to have hit her stride on repurposing for public use. So, hopefully the answer for this one is: call Julie.
Keeping it at its original location for its original purpose seems to be the
biggest challenge. From my observation, getting locals on-board and organized with engineers and lawyers is key.
Hope this helps. Curious what others have to say.
Center post encased in concrete. Overall good shape except for the damn roadway...grated decking goes, stringers go .....
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The old Heron Street Swing Bridge was steel-built in 1905 and closed in the 1920s.
It was preceded by a wooden swing bridge that was somewhat similar in style. That bridge was built in 1890 and replaced in 1905.
They have done some work on this bridge since my last visit. They built up the south rail but left the north as was.
The 1996 FraserDesign Missouri Historic Bridge Inventory appears to be in error with respect to this bridge. The Gillis bridge built in 1908 was at Gillis Ford. That bridge replaced an earlier bridge at that location, built J. B. Clayville for $215 in 1896. Gillis ford is in the SW 1/4 Section 27, about 2.5 road miles SE of Shelbyville. The SW 1/4 of Sec 27 T58N R10W was owned by Mrs. W. D. Gillis in 1878 (Edwards Brothers 1878 Illustrated Atlas of Shelby County). This bridge is located closer to 5 road miles from Shelbyville in T57N R10W Sec 1-2. Newspaper accounts suggest that this bridge was built c. 1911-1912 following a petition to the county court in 1909 by the neighbors lead by neighboring landowner Charles F. Perrigo/Parigo (Hunnewell Graphic 12 Feb. 1909). January 1911 newspaper notices indicate that the county was willing to build a bridge at 'Graveyard ford' if the neighboring landowners would provide fill and haul it for free.
This location appears to have been known as both 'Baker ford' and 'Graveyard ford.' The land southeast of the ford was owned by J. R. Baker in 1878 and George E. Baker Jr. in 1902, thus accounting for the ‘Baker ford’ designation.
There is a small cemetery just south of the bridge on the east side of Black Creek that accounts for the references to this location as 'Graveyard ford'. That cemetery includes the marked grave of Thomas Jefferson Davis (d.1849) who was original owner of the 80 acres just north of the Bridge. The unmarked 1833 grave of Angus McDonald Holliday, the original owner of the land east of the bridge (SW 1/4 Sec 1) is also likely there, along with the grave of William T. Matson. Angus M. Holliday died in early June 1833 from cholera - contracted from his neighbor William T. Matson who had been in Palmyra when the 1833 epidemic broke out. Matson was returning to his nearby home on the west side of Black Creek from Palmyra but was unable to cross Black Creek at the ford due to high water. Matson stayed overnight with Holliday and died there the next morning. At Matson's burial, Angus Holliday fell ill with cholera and then he died the next day (History of Monroe and Shelby Counties, Missouri, 1884).
Guidance when bridge in peril. Ie what steps to take
Maybe when you get back from PA Julie?
Julie thanks! glad to see this may find a care taker.