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Posted March 19, 2019, by Dana and Kay Klein

Kahn Arch. Any others anyone knows of?

Book
Posted March 19, 2019, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Good luck with the book! I hope that it does well for you.

Book
Posted March 19, 2019, by Dana and Kay Klein

Hey Douglas congrats! Look forward to purchasing a copy!

My Soon Coming Book
Posted March 19, 2019, by Douglas Butler

Dana, Nathan Holt, James Baughn, Luke, and contributors I'm giving you guys a shout out and thanks for letting me joining bridge Hunter and dialog with you on the type of bridges, even though some of us may have are disputes but look out for my soon coming book on movable bridges of the information of sketches and the cities of the Midwestern states vol 1. I know that you may not respond back but it was just a thought.

Posted March 19, 2019, by Dana and Kay Klein

Tony take a look at county view, this bridge already up.

Posted March 19, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

This was an exceedingly rare surviving example of a bridge using Kahn type reinforcing, a "trussed" reinforcement that was a very unusual type of reinforcing. A historical article is attached about this bridge. Further information about Kahn can be found here. https://historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=i...

Attachment #1 (application/pdf; 487,641 bytes)

Posted March 19, 2019, by Clark Vance (cvance [at] dogmail [dot] com)

Recent spur to mine. Not on 1948 15' quad, shown as MoPac on 1981 7.5' quad.

Posted March 19, 2019, by Carrie Burns (carrie [at] atlantamovietours [dot] com)

She's coming down! CIM and Stevens & Wilkinson have been working on renderings. Waiting to see the final, but based on the infrastructure and fact that it doesn't match up with the Mitchell Street Bridge for future rail line improvements it needed to be rebuilt. (Photo by Chris Hrubesh)

Posted March 19, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Tony: there is a specific reason for these bearings. Someone did a presentation on this bridge, I think it might have been at an SIA Conference. But a brief overview is here: https://www.dot.state.mn.us/historicbridges/4700.html

Posted March 19, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Sounds like he was an exceptional man!

Posted March 19, 2019, by Brendan Edward Delay (brendandelay [at] ameritech [dot] net)

Edward Delay kept track of and visited his grandfather's stone bridges.

He himself was trained as a dry wall stone mason and a cement block mason earlier in life.

Obituary Condolences

Edward Delay Obituary

Edward Vincent Delay SARATOGA SPRINGS - Edward Vincent Delay passed away on October 1, 2014. He was born in this city Feb. 28, 1932 to his father of the same name and Mary Donohue Delay, a legal stenographer who once worked for Senator Brackett, then for his nephew’s law firm, Brackett, Eddy and Dorsey. His grandfather, Patrick J. Delay of County Cork stock, in 1907 constructed the masterpiece Stone Arch Bridge over Geyser Brook for the Hudson Valley Railway as master mason for the Delaware & Hudson Railway; but 11 years later sacrificed his life to save his men from being crushed by the negligent movement of a steam locomotive on McArty Avenue viaduct in Albany. Patrick’s son, Edward V. Delay, at the time was the Ass’t Director of the War Trade Intelligence Bureau in Washington, D.C., later enlisting as a private, later promoted to Lieutenant, serving in the New York National Guard until 1925; returning to Saratoga as proprietor of the E.V. Delay Mfg. Co., which carried his family in prosperity through the depression and WWII. Residents may recall the 1948 Cadillac given to him on his 16th Birthday by his father. Edward married one of his Schenectady meter reading customers, Annie Gallagher, an honors nursing graduate of Leicester University, Certified Midwife and native of Belfast, N.I. Ten children followed, Timothy, Brendan, the late Neal, Mary, Frances, Erin, Moira, Kieran, Owen and Dermuid. Edward furthered the building skills of his Delay and Gaffney ancestors, building 42 homes in Syracuse, also initiating the volunteer effort to repaint the interior of the large Most Holy Rosary School. Sympathetic to the Spa City’s long decline, when working for the Anheuser Busch Corporation, he convinced it in the early 1980’s to purchase beer cans for its Baldwinsville brewery from the Ball Corporation plant in the Grande Industrial Park, and then even to mail its shipping invoices from the Saratoga Post Office, rather than Baldwinsville. On trips, he even took his personal mail from Syracuse to Saratoga to mail at the Broadway Post Office, buying stamps there. With resourceful imagination, in the early 1980’s he saved the dormant Spring Water Bottling Plant from liquidation, persuading Anheuser Busch to buy it for water as a beverage. He saved many jobs.

Posted March 19, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I would expect to see rockers for the expansion end of a bridge from the late 1920's that looks like a DOT designed structure. Those rollers are unique, not like a traditional roller-nest but just two giant double-wheel rollers. I can't tell for sure how or if they are attached.

I also notice that just upstream is a nice round cut stone pier that survives from a lost swing-span. It appears to still have some of the rolling mechanism attached to it.

Posted March 19, 2019, by Brendan Edward Delay (brendandelay [at] ameritech [dot] net)

I wonder if the rail traffic and loads are lower than the 1950's when it was built?

Could it be the D & H markings are there because it is original paint, now 64 years old? Or maybe some paint patching was done in the interim. The bridge girders over Interstate 90 are suspended with high clearance for truck trailers, which means no accidents due to insufficient clearance or high trucks.

Posted March 19, 2019, by Brendan Delay (brendandelay [at] ameritech [dot] net)

When I visited this bridge in the late summer of 1992, it had a strong guardrail to protect railroad workers walking or doing maintenance. However, I did notice the rust on the metal components which were over the Genesee River, which would get humidity.

It was an amazing sight to look upward to view a locomotive pulling cars on that bridge, hundreds of feet suspended over the river.

The bridge lasted a very long time when we considered the dynamic loads over it.

Farrand
Posted March 19, 2019, by Dana and Kay Klein

Thanks Tony, pretty active Whipple, De Graff researches out there maybe they can locate. Only every seen 2 of these structures plus a modern replica. Worth a drive if you get a chance.

Posted March 19, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Dana, I looked around on Google Earth but couldn't see any possible location that stood out. Was going to make a page for it but it may well have been in Branch County and not St. Joseph. I actually stumbled across this bridge when I was looking for the other de Graff built Whipple Bowstrings that were built in Elkhart County, Indiana. It would seem that Mr. de Graff was pretty active in this region in the late 1860's!

Posted March 19, 2019, by Joseph T Smith (littlered121040 [at] aol [dot] com)

This bridge had a metal railing decorated with flour-de-lis . This railing was replaced around 1990 . I salvaged 100's of the fleur-de-lis from this job and still have one or two !!!

Posted March 19, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)
Posted March 19, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

This bridge will be closed by the end of April for deck and underside repair which will last 30 days with detours planned.During the closure the supervisors are requesting that one lane of the bridge be open for emergencies.The bridge may be subject to weight restrictions due to structural instability.This surprise PennDOT bridge closure came up during last Thursdays supervisors meeting.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Dana

Tony I'll delete photo till Leland Loci established. Thanks!

Posted March 18, 2019, by Luke

My comment was moreso a snarky reply to Mike's "They don't make em' like they used to" bit.

I doubt an 1871 bowstring would've been able to withstand the hydrological forces at play here any better than the UCEB could've.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

This photo is labeled as the Leland Bridge, and not the Farrand Bridge.

In Grant Farrand's notes he talks about the Leland Bridge being 5 miles to the East of the Farrand Bridge and says that it collapsed and was not replaced.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Here are photos of the dam, it wasn't just breached it was obliterated... https://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/nebraska/foo...

Posted March 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Yes, it appears to be a massacre out there right now!

Posted March 18, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Luke,right now I think Nebraska is losing a lot of bridges besides this one due to the flooding.ABC nightly news showed a lot of bridges damaged or lost.

Posted March 18, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

I can believe that,Tony.Now I don't feel so bad.LOL!

Posted March 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

I tend to agree Erik... Just a dressed-up stringer.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

You're welcome George! That has tripped up many people on this site!

Posted March 18, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Okay,Tony.Thanks for explaining that.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

George, that is a patent date... Not a build date. Given that I figure a ca. 1880 gives a bit of range.

Posted March 18, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Picture #4 says 1876 for the build date,not 1880.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Yeah... I claim brain-fart on that one!

Posted March 18, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)
Summary of Flood/ Ice-related Bridge Disasters
Posted March 18, 2019, by Jason Smith (flensburg [dot] bridgehunter [dot] av [at] googlemail [dot] com)

In connection with the latest flood update, here is a tally of all the historic bridges in the Midwest US that have fallen victim to flooding and/or ice jams. As you can see in many bridges, not even the most modern of structures had a chance, even counting the one near Spencer Dam in Nebraska. At least seven bridges gone are listed here: https://bridgehunterschronicles.wordpress.com/2019/03/18/apo...

More casualities will come and with that an update. Stay tuned....

JS

Posted March 18, 2019, by Erik Hoffman (edh4801 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Pretty sure that's just a timber beam bridge with fancy railings...

Posted March 18, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

The latest date is now 2020 for replacement. https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/bergen/fair-lawn/2019...

Posted March 18, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Tony,

You assume correctly, Featherbed will be placed on steel stringers. Again, we have a "best possible" outcome, as the Consulting Parties added this alternative, which places the truss on steel stringers at existing width with one pier. Original proposals were adding "thru girder" beams (which would have blocked view of trusses), and another which would have widened the truss (destroying the Variety Ironworks design of overhead bracing).

Posted March 18, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

Tony, this is the original/existing page with more detail. Here's your duplicate page... http://bridgehunter.com/mi/st-joseph/washington-street/

RE: Bridge over North Fork Calaveras River
Posted March 18, 2019, by Luke

RE: According to historicaerials, it was a deck girder belonging to the Southern Pacific.

There in 98, gone in 02.

Bridge over North Fork Calaveras River
Posted March 18, 2019, by Daniel

https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B011'53.8%22N+120%C2...

I noticed "toll bridge road" near this, looked on satellite view, and found the abutments and piers from a 200+ft bridge.

Based on the span lengths it was most likely something pretty basic but next time I'm in the area I'll have to check it out.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Daniel

I would guess that the gates are there to allow landowner access, and that it's now all private property.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Sounds like Virginia! I assume that the beautiful Featherbed Lane-Variety Iron Works Bridge will receive the same haphazard treatment.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Jason Smith (flensburg [dot] bridgehunter [dot] av [at] googlemail [dot] com)

Nathan, can you scan and send me a copy in PDF Format? I cannot access anything from Europe because of privacy guidelines. I'm really interested in seeing what the bridge looks like. Thanks for your help! :-)

JS

Posted March 18, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

The outcome with this bridge, while indeed frustrating, is the best possible outcome, which prevented the total destruction of this bridge. I was a Section 106 Consulting Party on this bridge, as well as another truss (Featherbed Lane) in this same VADOT district. The engineer that handles this district of Virginia said that to keep a "two eyebar" truss bridge open to traffic in a load-bearing capacity, whether for vehicular traffic or pedestrian traffic is, and I quote "Russian Roulette." The engineer was severely critical of the preservation of such bridges in other states like Michigan, and Indiana.

On top of all that, contractors were allowed to dismantle this bridge in a way that severe damage was done to rivet holes (incorrect use of cutting torch).

Now that said, the Waterloo Bridge in Virginia is to be rehabbed, but (despite excellent condition) it will have a bunch of original materials replaced including all eyebars.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

"Rehabilitation" can unfortunately offer way too many loopholes, shortcuts and compromises when compared to "Restoration".

Sims Creek Bridge (North Dakota)
Posted March 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

With an ADT of 10 it makes sense to spend money on a new bridge... That will NEVER pay for itself!

Full sarcasm intended.

Posted March 18, 2019, by John Marvig

That’s a shame. Better than nothing I guess.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Looks as though the trusses are non-functional at this point.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

If you zoom in on Google map you'll see not only N3910 and N 180 given... But also Hickory Street. Not uncommon to have several names for the same road.

Also that 1932 build date is way off... That's a ca. 1900 pinned bedstead.

Sims Creek Bridge (North Dakota)
Posted March 18, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)
Posted March 18, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)
Posted March 18, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)

This bridge could have and should have been saved. Nobody wanted to spend the money that was required to mobilize a crane and get these spans moved. Just another example of how covered bridges get more preservation dollars than metal truss bridges, since ALL of Iowa's covered bridges are preserved, but the same cannot be said for these nationally significant bowstring trusses.

Blatnik Bridge (Wisconsin)
Posted March 18, 2019, by Nathan Holth (webmaster [at] historicbridges [dot] org)
Posted March 18, 2019, by CABurton (CABurton159 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Around here that road is always called N180, where does the E3910 number come from?

Posted March 18, 2019, by Luke

It doesnt help that the dam right next to it literally failed...

Staple Bend Tunnel (Pennsylvania)
Posted March 18, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

I just read today in my local paper the Reading Eagle that this tunnel was completed on this date in 1834.Don't know if this is true but I'm putting this information on here.

Posted March 18, 2019, by Mike Kerkau (mjkerkau [at] gmail [dot] com)

They don't make 'em like they used to, do they?

Posted March 17, 2019, by Tony Dillon (spansaver [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Here's one for ya Art S!

No doubt in my mind it's an early 1870's Columbia Bridge Works product as those funky "pronged" finials match this one...

http://bridgehunter.com/oh/knox/bh44686/

draw Bridge in Dover NJ?
Posted March 17, 2019, by Dana and Kay Klein

Circa 1909

Posted March 17, 2019, by Garrett Wisher (gwillywish [at] gmail [dot] com)

Bridge demolished in 2018, replacement in progress 2/2019

Posted March 17, 2019, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

We interrupt the devastating news of bridge after bridge being destroyed by flooding to bring you some good news.

This bridge was placed on dry land instead of being demolished when it was replaced. I do not know what the future holds for this bridge, but for right now it appears to be extant.

Posted March 17, 2019, by Erik Hoffman (edh4801 [at] gmail [dot] com)

What i meant by them not being permanent is that when a road is permanently closed it is usually deliberately blocked off with dirt or a concrete wall or both, and all this has is a gate held shut with a padlock.

Posted March 17, 2019, by Robert Elder (robertelder1 [at] gmail [dot] com)

The loss of this bridge is a catastrophic setback for bridge preservation in the United States. This bridge was not just significant on a county or state level (it was) but it had very high National significance as well. Granted, all remaining bowstring bridges are nationally significant but this one was arguably among the very best examples of bowstring bridges.

Flooding is a very serious threat to many of our historic bridges in the United States. Unless a truss bridge has been seriously over-engineered for its crossing, it can be taken down by flood and ice. Not to mention the lally columns and stone pylons that can give way.

If our most historically significant bridges must remain over their waterways, consideration must be given to strengthening, replacing, and/or raising the pylons in order to keep the trusses above water.

Every Spring, we lose bridges to flooding. Thus far, the Spring of 2019 is off to a particularly devastating start.

Posted March 17, 2019, by Kevin Skow (weatherbum [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Verified its demise...

Posted March 17, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Picture #2 showed 2 bridges.When was that picture taken?I didn't even know there was 2 bridges at that location.

Posted March 17, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Picture #2 showed 2 bridges.When was that picture taken?I didn't even know there was 2 bridges at that location.

Posted March 17, 2019, by Dana and Kay Klein

Any updates on status?

Posted March 17, 2019, by Kevin Skow (weatherbum [at] hotmail [dot] com)

Saw a post on Facebook that this bridge collapsed yesterday (March 16) due to flooding and ice damage. Haven't seen any photos yet. Can anyone confirm this?

Posted March 16, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Thanks for clearing that up,Luke.

Posted March 16, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Thanks for clearing that up,Luke.

Posted March 16, 2019, by Luke

The company is directly to the left of the bridge and both quarries have been filled in.

Here's an aerial image from the 1960s showing them before:

http://ortho.gis.iastate.edu/client.cgi?zoom=2&x0=483657&y0=...

Posted March 16, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Michael,let me know if this does get done because I actually don't see it happening because of the company property at one end and the railroad tracks at the other end.I might be wrong.

Posted March 16, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Michael,let me know if this does get done because I actually don't see it happening because of the company property at one end and the railroad tracks at the other end.I might be wrong.

Posted March 16, 2019, by Michael Corbin (mcorbin02 [at] atlanticbb [dot] net)

I do not know of any plans, but won't it be grand to have it opened as a bike/walk/hike path.........

Holcim
Posted March 16, 2019, by .......justsayin

Lehigh Cement 700 25th street NW Mason City

Posted March 16, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

I saw the first picture of the bridge and read the article about the bridge and I have a couple of questions.I read the bridge was built to handle the quarry trucks going to the plant.I don't see the quarry on satellite and where is the company that's supposed to be near the bridge?

Posted March 16, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

I saw the first picture of the bridge and read the article about the bridge and I have a couple of questions.I read the bridge was built to handle the quarry trucks going to the plant.I don't see the quarry on satellite and where is the company that's supposed to be near the bridge?

Holcim Company Road Overpass
Posted March 16, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Finished

Posted March 16, 2019, by Craig (cphilpott [at] puc [dot] edu)

Just saw picture of damaged bridge. Sad loss. Picture attached is from unknown photographer on internet. I did not take pic and I do not own pic.

RE: Clippings
Posted March 16, 2019, by Luke

It's already added as the Holcim Company Road Overpass

bluemelon
Posted March 16, 2019, by ..............justaskin

any one try a bluemellon account for bridge photos? how is/was it

Clippings
Posted March 16, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Luke, do you want them posted in the forum or is there a bridge already listed ?

Posted March 16, 2019, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)

A section of the long trestle approach collapsed last night. Fortunately, the steel components of this bridge were not damaged.

Posted March 15, 2019, by Disco Free Zone

Man card revoked.

Clippings
Posted March 15, 2019, by Luke

Been a minute, Melissa:

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/391253012/

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/3465643/

Both of the Holcim Company bridge in Mason City.

Posted March 15, 2019, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Update: the eastern truss and several girders are in the river.

Posted March 15, 2019, by James McCray (jamesinslocomb [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Nooo.....im sad now

Posted March 15, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

Alexander,this is another of the Jaindl's wacky dreams that might or might not work.I'm not against this development idea but it does sound a little bit peculiar since there are other properties available in Allentown besides a truss bridge.

Posted March 15, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

John,that's the derailment I was talking about.Thanks.

Posted March 15, 2019, by George Oakley (Georgeoakley49 [at] yahoo [dot] com)

No,Dana and Kay.According to my fiancée Ann who grew up in the area,this was the rear entrance to the abandoned papermill.It sure is a puzzler,though.

Posted March 15, 2019, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Reportedly damaged or destroyed, not yet known what part was damaged.

Posted March 15, 2019, by John Marvig (marvigj27 [at] gmail [dot] com)

Reportedly collapsed approximately 3:00 AM today (3/15/19)

Voulez
Posted March 14, 2019, by ...............justsayin

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Gitchie, gitchie, ya-ya, here (ooh)

Mocha Chocolata, ya-ya (yeah)

Creole Lady Marmalade

Brouillettes Creek
Posted March 14, 2019, by Brouillettes Labelle

quatre

Brouillettes Creek
Posted March 14, 2019, by labelle patti

trois

Brouillettes Creek
Posted March 14, 2019, by labelle

deux

Brouillettes Creek
Posted March 14, 2019, by patti

1

Posted March 14, 2019, by Melissa Brand-Welch (melissabrandwelch [at] msn [dot] com)

Best comment in weeks

Brouillettes Creek
Posted March 14, 2019, by pattilabellerocks

….foamer bait....

Posted March 14, 2019, by Curtis Hudson

This bridge was resurfaced. The original railing is gone.


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