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If this bridge no longer operates, then I think it’s time to replace this bridge with a non movable span.
I know the owners of the property surrounding it, they would prefer no one trespass on their land, however if one is willing to paddle up from the Eudora boat docks it is quite easy to get to. The cross under the bridge was a pet.
It looks like this may have been a Tee Beam, there are uprights in the creek bed and along the bridge rail there are rebar where the uprights would have been. It had a pipe railing along the top as the pipe is still connected to the uprights.
Thanks Julie.That's what it looked like to me.
Well your heart was in the right place. I think what happened here is that the previous Bar Harbor had ferry survived the previous Portland-Yarmouth,NS ferry by a few years.
This one is twice as fast as the old Portland ferry was if not even faster than that, but alas there's no mention there of a Casino on board?
I believe there is a mistake on this bridge. Its deck width has been placed at 124 feet. In reality, however, it is just a single-lane covered bridge.
Both the Little Coal and Big Coal pedestrian bridges are owned by the West Virginia Division of Highways. The Big Coal bridge is County Route 15/14, and the Little Coal bridge is County Route 13/22.
The land where the two bridges meet was donated to the West Virginia Division of Natural Resources in 2016 to become Forks of Coal State Natural Area. WVDNR has established a series of trails, including one which basically leads to the bridges. Now that the bridges abut a park and are more accessible, maybe there will be more interest in repairing them.
It appears I have made a sad mistake. This ferry operates between Portland, ME and Yarmouth, NS. Perhaps we can make a separate entry?
The ferry has re-opened, and appears to feature a new ship : https://www.ferries.ca/thecat/
I like this one...
Well, I am glad that the webmaster has weighed in. I will accept his decision whatever it turns out to be.
James, it is funny that you should mention the Whitewater river in Missouri. We had a very similar thing happened with the Whitewater River in Kansas. It has been known as both the Whitewater Creek and Whitewater River but the official name is now Whitewater River. To make matters more complicated there are various branches known as Whitewater Creek which join the main branches of the Whitewater River.
This is a Pandora's Box for sure.
In 1972 the U.S. Board on Geographic Names decided that this is the Little Tallahatchie River. Their documentation can be found on the USGS website here:
Perform a search for "Tallahatchie" in Mississippi, drill down to the entry for Little Tallahatchie River, and then look for the "BGN Subject Folders" section. (It's not possible to link to the specific page due to the screwy design of their website.)
On the other hand, it's hard to argue against local usage. The fact that the road signs say "Tallahatchie River" at this bridge is very compelling. Likewise, the National Bridge Inventory, based on records provided by MDOT, seems to prefer Tallahatchie River for the entire river below Sardis Lake.
The BGN Principles, Policies, and Procedures manual states: "The underlying principle of the BGN for establishing official geographic names and their applications is recognition of present-day local usage or preferences."
However, the BGN has had a long history of not always following that principle. Instead of standardizing names, they've sowed confusion by adopting positions that are clearly the opposite of local usage.
Consider, for example, the Pittsburg(h) fiasco:
I'm particularly peeved about one of their decisions several years ago in Southeast Missouri to demote Whitewater River to "Upper Whitewater Creek" despite zero evidence that the stream has ever been called a "creek" throughout 200+ years of history.
Luckily for us we're under no obligation to follow every BGN decision. And how!
To complicate matters, this particular bridge sits at the transition point between the original river channel and the modern Panola Quitman Floodway, a man-made diversion channel labeled as such by the DeLorme atlas.
And then there's Google Maps, which consistently labels the entire river system as "Little Tallahatchie River" -- even those portions that most everyone, including the BGN, consider to be the main Tallahatchie River.
So, in a nutshell, it's complicated.
Dummyline Road running through Asa follows the alignment of the Yazoo & Mississippi Valley Railroad according to the 1932 Sledge, MS quadrangle.
Dummy line was a term for some steam streetcars and interurbans.
And the old song:
Yep just down the creek is a railroad bridge.
Thanks Luke for identifying the bridge.
I just noticed something.If you look at the satellite picture of this bridge and look to the right,it looks like a railroad bridge crosses this creek also.Just a guess but anything is possible.
I noticed that too. I have not found anything definitive, but these are a couple of interesting links:
I'd like to know the story behind the naming of the nearby Dummyline Road!
"Unknown status", but nothing there so I would hazard a guess the bridge is lost
According to Encyclopaedia Britanica, the river is also known as the Little Tallahatchie. Thus, I can see where there might be some confusion here.
As Luke pointed out, the variety of online maps do not agree on the name. That being said, we do want to have all information on here to be factual. If a few maps have the wrong river we still want to have the right river, or at least the most commonly accepted name. Bridgehunter has a special field for alternate name, and I think that we should use that special field for its intended purpose.
Based on my field visit, Tallahatchie seems to be the most common name. I crossed the river at two different locations, and at both crossings the name Tallahatchie was used. I have added a Google Streetview showing the sign with the river name as Tallahatchie. In addition, I have read several news reports about this bridge, and another one over the same river. All of these news reports use the name Tallahatchie instead of Little Tallahatchie.
For now, I have changed this listing back to its original name. Either way, I think that the Webmaster should make the call here - perhaps in consultation with our Mississippi Contributors. Those of us who are not from the area should defer to the locals and to the Webmaster on this one.
Bridge was removed sometime in 2016. Since the rail line is no longer active, it will not be replaced.
FWIW s topo map from 1965 also call this the Little Tallahatchie River, though those also spell streams wrong from time to time.
See: Worle Creek in Ames, Iowa.
Later topo maps and Google both misspell it as Worrell, when city documents/locals/older topos all use Worle.
I should mention that Google Maps seems to have erroneously labeled this river as the Little Tallahatchie. It is really the Tallahatchie. The Little Tallahatchie is to the West.
That is good news all around. Hopefully Generation Z has an appreciation for historic bridges.
What an awesome bridge! I sure hope that it might ultimately be preserved. Mississippi seems to have some nice bridges. I certainly hope to do some more Bridgehunting in the South someday.
bridge to be replaced in 2018
Bridge is being replaced in 2017
Bridge to be replaced in 2018
Bridge has been replaced
It looks like this bridge is no longer operating.
It looks like some work has been done fairly recently to stabilize this structure. Interestingly, one of the most skilled stone masons in the area lives just a few yards from here and takes care to keep the area cleaned up. I'm informed that people come here for senior pictures, etc.
Might this be part of the old Bankhead Highway?
Reading through news articles, I am seeing conflicting reports of repair vs replace. We might have to punt this one to the Mississippi contributors on here.
This is an interesting little foot bridge. It looks to me as though the deck has a little bit of a camber.
This is a great find and I am glad to see some photos on here. A similar bridge in Rush County, which was on the national register of historic places, was demolished a few years ago. It is good to see that this one is still standing so far. Hopefully it will be retained. I would I think that this bridge has a high chance of being found historic given its unusual design.
I drove over this bridge in November of 2014. There was no sign of construction here at all.
But...according to the June 2016 Google Streetview, trees are being cleared at both ends of the bridge. This one is being replaced. I don't know if it will be retained or demolished.
The reason ADT on Fisher's Lane Bridge went from 3100 to 50 was the closing of the southern end of Fisher's Lane by the year 2000. The lane had been an unusual inner city scenic shortcut during the day but the narrow roadway, poor lighting and winding path made "Snake Road", as it was locally called, a popular site for late night joyriding. Despite the closing it is still a magnet for automobile crashes and fatalities, one as recently as 2015.
The original bridge was demolished and replaced in the 1970's
There was a celebration of new and old bridges in Carlisle on Friday. Note the irony of the PennDOT engineer speaking. I won't blow it. It says a lot however.
Photo from Cumberland County
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Grinnell, IA - Holt, MI - Hazelgreen, MO
Please join us as we as we launch the Gasconade River Bridge Rehabilitation Project.
The North Skunk River Greenbelt Association (NSRGA)/ Workin' Bridges has been given the green light by the Missouri Department of Transportation(MoDOT) for a conceptual agreement to begin the fundraising efforts to actually restore the Gasconade River Bridge at Hazelgreen, Missouri. A new by-pass bridge has been designed and will be constructed in 2018 which left the historic bridge at risk for demolition. The Rte 66 Gasconade River Bridge Guardians have lead the effort for preservation and MoDOT agreed to let the efforts begin to find the funding required. Let me be clear, the historic bridge is still at risk for demolition unless sufficient funding for restoration can be acquired in the next fourteen months.
The four spans of the Gasconade River Bridge include two Parker Trusses, one Pratt truss and a Warren Pony Truss, built in 1923 and designed by MoDOT engineers. A current engineering estimate by MoDOT estimated repair work at over $3 million dollars. The Workin' Bridges qualified engineers and craftsmen will assess the bridge for possible phased options and costs that may differ from MoDOTs assessment. These real numbers, captured as Scope of Work and Estimates are required so that informed decisions can be made, for potential grants. Work with MoDOT on a risk management plan for their new bridge and the Interstate 44 bridge is being negotiated. We have proposed a Trust Account that would be in place for a catastrophic event, as well as utilizing the interest for future biannual inspections and site and security.
Developers are also being sought for this property and any design ideas are welcome. Route 66 has always been a mecca for travelers worldwide and with this bridge repaired the potential for crossing on special event days may still be an option as engineering will return the bridge to its former function. For more information on how the bridge was saved and how we are moving forward together check out Workin' Bridges: Route 66 Bridge Rehab on Facebook
Our goal is to raise $10,000 in funds. Those funds are for engineering and planning. Jacqueline (Jax) Welborn has been designated the Project Manager. She will undertake the outreach for donors to help with the immediate engineering and planning needs for the bridge. Contact Jax at email@example.com or call her at 573-528-1292.
Then our efforts will turn to finding the pledges, grants and in-kind donations necessary to reach our $3.5 million dollar goal by December 31, 2018. That money will go to repairing the piers and abutments that hold the spans up, the stringer and roadway replacement, floor beam repair. The deck, or at least a portion of the deck will be removed by MoDOT using their demolition funds for that purpose. The lead paint abatement solution is still to be determined.
Those efforts are currently underway. NSRGA has begun the process to become a legitimate nonprofit corporation in Missouri, then the bank accounts will be procured. In the meantime you can still donate at Workin' Bridges: Route 66 Bridge Rehab on Facebook. Your donations are tax deductible to the fullest extent allowed by law.
Other questions, please contact Julie Bowers at firstname.lastname@example.org or 641-260-1262. Check out this project and others on Facebook at Workin' Bridges, www.workinbridges.org and become a Save Our Bridge (SOB) action figure today.
Great idea PennDOT using the ABC idea Don.I hope they use it on all concrete bridges that should be replaced.I just hope they leave the truss bridges alone.
According to https://books.google.com/books?id=8cs1AQAAMAAJ&q=Little+Rock... the construction on this bridge began in September 1904.
I saw this on a boat trip in October 2017. It appears to be abandoned and is swung open. There are still wires crossing it, and the telegraph poles are still there. It is near the chemical plant.
I would like to know when it was built and how long it has been abandoned. I hope they do not destroy it. If anyone has any additional information, please contact me.
This one's a Beauty!
I took this shot in March 2010.
I went through here on the river as it was being dismantled. It is sad to see these old truss bridges go away, as the new ones are so plain and boring.
I went over the Moncla Bridge many times. Just downriver, there are still concrete pilings visible from an even older bridge. The older bridge was built in the 1920s or 30s (possibly WPA, because I was told my grandfather worked on it) and collapsed during high water. There is still a road bed on the east side of the river going to the bank. The man who owns the property tells the story and heard that a car went off of the bridge when it fell. I'd like to know more about this, if anyone has information.
I am from Avoyelles Parish, and I have heard many stories from older folks about driving cars over this bridge before the LA 1 bridge was built. My father remembers having to fold in his truck mirror when meeting another truck on the bridge, as it was a narrow road set around the tracks.
albermarle52 - that railroad bridge is listed if you search for Krotz Springs, Louisiana.
I posted those to the wrong bridge's page. I've moved a couple of them to the right place. I'll try to upload a few more later.
Being from Louisiana, and spending much time on the waterways, I have seen these pipeline crossings many times. I always wondered if it was oil or natural gas that goes through these suspended pipelines. Also, why not bury them like many others? Scouring problems? It seems more expensive this way.
One has to consider a couple of other factors here as well...
*The bridge is still in use on Federal Highway US 250, and some of the strengthening can be attributed to that. The 2 concrete piers were added in 1934 probably for that very reason.
*After being damaged by flooding in 1985, the bridge was nearly destroyed in 1989. A gasoline tanker was filling underground tanks at a nearby gas station when the fuel overflowed down a hill and onto the bridge. A hot muffler from a car crossing ignited it and set the bridge on fire heavily damaging it. The people jumped from the car before it rolled back to the entrance of the bridge. The bridge was renovated and reopened in 1991 costing 1.4 Million dollars. And although steel was added underneath to strengthen the weakened superstructure, as much of the original trusses as possible were retained.
Given all that this iconic structure has been through, I think I can overlook the additions that have helped it survive. Many covered spans that have been through much less have unfortunately had much to all of their historic integrity lost.
Thank you, Robert. I'm hoping to come back when there is a train crossing the bridge early in the morning. This may be a challenge as trains just run a few times per week and I live about 45 miles from here.
Doubtful, seeing as the bridge this entry for is in the raised position with no tracks going to the bridge.
Its a pretty mixed bag, with both variations in policy depending on what state you are in and what time it was done and the location/traffic of the bridge. For example in the 60's and early 70's it was very common in my home state of Vermont to add steel supports or even remove the entire bottom of the bridge and replace it with and independent steel and concrete bridge, retaining the authentic cover. At the time this was seen as progressive, but by the late 70's and 80's the sentiment moved more towards in-kind restoration and preservation. Today we have a comprehensive policy towards rehabilitation and maintenance of covered bridges that keeps them working as their original framers intended.
Cross over the Connecticut river into New Hampshire and there are only a handful of covered bridges with steel supports. Most of them were modified way back in the early 1900's with the addition of large laminated wooden arches. These modifications are old enough to be historic in their own right, and look more 'natural' then steel supports. Fortunately these arches strengthened them sufficiently to survive without further modification.
Certainly though it can be said that more covered bridges have been modified then any of us would like to see. I feel like there has been an increase in awareness for historic integrity of covered bridges though, so hopefully we won't see more of these modifications in the future.
I've been here several times - trains use it daily.
Happy to tell everyone that the bridge was listed in the National Register of Historic Places in July of 2017, and the Town of Milford is planning a complete overhaul (under supervision of the State Historic Preservation Office). Milford is in the Freedom's Way National Heritage Area, and this bridge is listed among potential National Historic Landmarks for its rarity.
A great bridge well cared for and protected. Bucket lister for sure
I visited the tunnel today (10/15/2017). It's in good shape. Mainly dry inside the tunnel except near the entrances.
This bridge is listed as closed. However, I drove across it and there is traffic that uses this bridge - the road is well used. There are no barricades or notices or anything else to show any closure of this bridge.
That is possible. I am much more familiar with metal truss bridges in the Midwest.
Robert, I disagree because the overwhelming majority of bridges I have seen in many states do not have any steel underneath and the truss still supports the bridge. It takes away from the character of the bridge and to me, makes it less authentic. Perhaps different states just have different ideas about "restoration"
Today marks the one-year anniversary of Nick hitting the Bridgehunter Jackpot. Does an 1878 Whipple truss ring a bell? Yep, that was one year ago today. WOW! JUST WOW!
This bridge has a bizarre story to say the least. It carried traffic on Monument Road for several years. I don't know if that was its original location or not. It was still on Monument Road when I last visited it. In fact, it was still open to traffic.
Perhaps the most bizarre thing about this bridge is the fact that it was put together from random parts of an even older bridge. I would not be too surprised if the parts that compose this bridge originally came from more than one older bridge. This bridge might even comprised parts of three or four older bridges.
It is a Waddell truss in terms of overall layout but it was not built by the same firm that built the one in Missouri. Most likely, a creative County engineer designed this thing and a crew of County workers assembled it. Doniphan county has at least two other bridges that were altered and reused.
Thanks, Dana and Kay
Nick you rock dude! Nice find
Searched for other listings of this historic (albeit modified) bridge on this site, but did not find any, hence this listing. Spotted from the road as I was driving by, great old thing, very happy locals had the thought to rehab it and make it very accessible to the public.
Another one of the odd paired angle Pony trusses in this region. This one happens to be in Queenpost form.
Well, that is too bad. I knew that it was doomed because of the KHRI update.
This is a beauty - beaten up, but still going strong(ish)
2017 - this old beauty has been replaced with something QUITE less interesting.
Wow. 1st visit. Little thing is really neat, perfect spot for it in this city park.
just saw listing for wood bridge - "Oxide Rd. plank bridge"
the 3rd crossing and northernmost creek crossing on Oxide Rd.
the second crossing of the creek over Oxide Rd.
Bridge is lost. As you proceed north up Oxide Rd., the road crosses the creek a total of 3 times, the southmost where the pin is currently located is now a low-water crossing, the next one north is a wooden bridge, and the last one northmost is another low water crossing
new(ish) coat of paint? like how it stands out - was not searching for it but it jumped right out while driving by today
yep, George. it's called ABC - Accellerated Bridge Construction.
Here's the page from PA Turnpike, and they include a video animation of the fast bridge replacement process from Michigan DOT.
I was visiting my fiancee Ann in Reading Hospital this morning and saw on the news that this bridge is being replaced this weekend actually having started on Friday.The Northeast Extension will open back up on Monday according to the news from the Allentown exit to the Mahoning Valley exit.Also they showed that the bridge is coming in already preformed which will speed up the replacement.I never knew this was possible with today's bridges.
This bridge no longer operates.
When the replacement bridge opens, the original bridge will no longer operate.
Looks like this bridge needs to get replaced because it no longer operates.
Now that a traffic light has been installed, vehicles will no longer need to stop at the electrical sign and vehicles will now only stop at the drawbridge gates.
This bridge is easily accessible with a street crossing on the north bank and public park on the south bank. Please use caution as rail traffic is frequent and they don't slow down much going through town.
On a side note... not too far to the east of this bridge is a 100+ year old suspended cable "swinging" footbridge that connects Gilman Public Park on the south bank of the Yellow River to South Riverside Drive on the north bank. Sadly I did not know its significance or I would have photographed it too.
They used that "too dangerous to allow workers on the bridge to repair it" excuse to demolish this bridge's "sister span" over Lake Champlain in New York and Vermont. However, with the Lake Champlain Bridge, the reason for this excuse was due to substructure (pier) deterioration. It is not clear that this New Hampshire example suffers from the same type of deterioration. Sadly though this country seems to place little value these days on having its elected officials make truthful statements, instead rewarding those who make bombastic statements.
In what shouldn't come as any surprise given NH's recent war on metal truss bridges, even this early and iconic example of a continuous arch bridge is now under threat, with possible replacement on the horizon for 2019.
My favorite part of the article is the state senator quote of “When they were first talking about restoring the bridge, the cost was about $30 million. Now, it is up to about $42 million. Also, the bridge is in such bad shape that the work will be dangerous to the people hired to do it.”. Amazing how not fixing the problem and continuing to allow it to rot increases the cost of fixing it. Sadly it sentiments like this which allow so many bridges to be lost.
It sure as hell does work!! The power line above sizzles and the hairs on your arm will stand on end after a few minutes. It is Twilight-Zone-Worthy!!
The abandoned bridge in the foreground only carried a water main, was abandoned in the 1970's.
.............did it work?..........
Visited bridge with my a couple of my kids. My 21 year old son, who is not exactly enamored with bridges, declared: Best Bridge Ever! Very neat, not the best, of course. Well worth a visit with the fam! Will post a video ASAP.
Barry thanks for info and good luck with preservation Efforts. Herkimer County appears to really appreciate there bridges!
Additional info on civil engineer Frank Osborn: http://www.structuremag.org/?p=930
My son, Ken, & I visited here Columbus Day, 2017 (09.09.2017). Bridge still very solid, serviceable; on low use county road; located just 1/8 north of Bee Creek Pony Bridge. Picturesque photo ops abound here. We were a bit early for full fall colors.
My son, Ken, & I visited here Columbus Day, 2017 (09.09.2017). Bridge still very solid, serviceable; on low use county road; located just 1/8 south of Cedar Bluff Bridge.