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Kahn Arch. Any others anyone knows of?
Good luck with the book! I hope that it does well for you.
Hey Douglas congrats! Look forward to purchasing a copy!
Dana, Nathan Holt, James Baughn, Luke, and contributors I'm giving you guys a shout out and thanks for letting me joining bridge Hunter and dialog with you on the type of bridges, even though some of us may have are disputes but look out for my soon coming book on movable bridges of the information of sketches and the cities of the Midwestern states vol 1. I know that you may not respond back but it was just a thought.
Tony take a look at county view, this bridge already up.
This was an exceedingly rare surviving example of a bridge using Kahn type reinforcing, a "trussed" reinforcement that was a very unusual type of reinforcing. A historical article is attached about this bridge. Further information about Kahn can be found here. https://historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=i...
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Recent spur to mine. Not on 1948 15' quad, shown as MoPac on 1981 7.5' quad.
She's coming down! CIM and Stevens & Wilkinson have been working on renderings. Waiting to see the final, but based on the infrastructure and fact that it doesn't match up with the Mitchell Street Bridge for future rail line improvements it needed to be rebuilt.
(Photo by Chris Hrubesh)
Tony: there is a specific reason for these bearings. Someone did a presentation on this bridge, I think it might have been at an SIA Conference. But a brief overview is here: https://www.dot.state.mn.us/historicbridges/4700.html
Sounds like he was an exceptional man!
Edward Delay kept track of and visited his grandfather's stone bridges.
He himself was trained as a dry wall stone mason and a cement block mason earlier in life.
Edward Delay Obituary
Edward Vincent Delay SARATOGA SPRINGS - Edward Vincent Delay passed away on October 1, 2014. He was born in this city Feb. 28, 1932 to his father of the same name and Mary Donohue Delay, a legal stenographer who once worked for Senator Brackett, then for his nephew’s law firm, Brackett, Eddy and Dorsey. His grandfather, Patrick J. Delay of County Cork stock, in 1907 constructed the masterpiece Stone Arch Bridge over Geyser Brook for the Hudson Valley Railway as master mason for the Delaware & Hudson Railway; but 11 years later sacrificed his life to save his men from being crushed by the negligent movement of a steam locomotive on McArty Avenue viaduct in Albany. Patrick’s son, Edward V. Delay, at the time was the Ass’t Director of the War Trade Intelligence Bureau in Washington, D.C., later enlisting as a private, later promoted to Lieutenant, serving in the New York National Guard until 1925; returning to Saratoga as proprietor of the E.V. Delay Mfg. Co., which carried his family in prosperity through the depression and WWII. Residents may recall the 1948 Cadillac given to him on his 16th Birthday by his father. Edward married one of his Schenectady meter reading customers, Annie Gallagher, an honors nursing graduate of Leicester University, Certified Midwife and native of Belfast, N.I. Ten children followed, Timothy, Brendan, the late Neal, Mary, Frances, Erin, Moira, Kieran, Owen and Dermuid. Edward furthered the building skills of his Delay and Gaffney ancestors, building 42 homes in Syracuse, also initiating the volunteer effort to repaint the interior of the large Most Holy Rosary School. Sympathetic to the Spa City’s long decline, when working for the Anheuser Busch Corporation, he convinced it in the early 1980’s to purchase beer cans for its Baldwinsville brewery from the Ball Corporation plant in the Grande Industrial Park, and then even to mail its shipping invoices from the Saratoga Post Office, rather than Baldwinsville. On trips, he even took his personal mail from Syracuse to Saratoga to mail at the Broadway Post Office, buying stamps there. With resourceful imagination, in the early 1980’s he saved the dormant Spring Water Bottling Plant from liquidation, persuading Anheuser Busch to buy it for water as a beverage. He saved many jobs.
I would expect to see rockers for the expansion end of a bridge from the late 1920's that looks like a DOT designed structure. Those rollers are unique, not like a traditional roller-nest but just two giant double-wheel rollers. I can't tell for sure how or if they are attached.
I also notice that just upstream is a nice round cut stone pier that survives from a lost swing-span. It appears to still have some of the rolling mechanism attached to it.
I wonder if the rail traffic and loads are lower than the 1950's when it was built?
Could it be the D & H markings are there because it is original paint, now 64 years old? Or maybe some paint patching was done in the interim. The bridge girders over Interstate 90 are suspended with high clearance for truck trailers, which means no accidents due to insufficient clearance or high trucks.
When I visited this bridge in the late summer of 1992, it had a strong guardrail to protect railroad workers walking or doing maintenance. However, I did notice the rust on the metal components which were over the Genesee River, which would get humidity.
It was an amazing sight to look upward to view a locomotive pulling cars on that bridge, hundreds of feet suspended over the river.
The bridge lasted a very long time when we considered the dynamic loads over it.
Thanks Tony, pretty active Whipple, De Graff researches out there maybe they can locate. Only every seen 2 of these structures plus a modern replica. Worth a drive if you get a chance.
Dana, I looked around on Google Earth but couldn't see any possible location that stood out. Was going to make a page for it but it may well have been in Branch County and not St. Joseph. I actually stumbled across this bridge when I was looking for the other de Graff built Whipple Bowstrings that were built in Elkhart County, Indiana. It would seem that Mr. de Graff was pretty active in this region in the late 1860's!
This bridge had a metal railing decorated with flour-de-lis . This railing was replaced around 1990 . I salvaged 100's of the fleur-de-lis from this job and still have one or two !!!
A little more complete story here: https://kwwl.com/news/2019/03/18/bremer-county-finds-parts-o...
This bridge will be closed by the end of April for deck and underside repair which will last 30 days with detours planned.During the closure the supervisors are requesting that one lane of the bridge be open for emergencies.The bridge may be subject to weight restrictions due to structural instability.This surprise PennDOT bridge closure came up during last Thursdays supervisors meeting.
Tony I'll delete photo till Leland Loci established. Thanks!
My comment was moreso a snarky reply to Mike's "They don't make em' like they used to" bit.
I doubt an 1871 bowstring would've been able to withstand the hydrological forces at play here any better than the UCEB could've.
This photo is labeled as the Leland Bridge, and not the Farrand Bridge.
In Grant Farrand's notes he talks about the Leland Bridge being 5 miles to the East of the Farrand Bridge and says that it collapsed and was not replaced.
Here are photos of the dam, it wasn't just breached it was obliterated... https://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/nebraska/foo...
Yes, it appears to be a massacre out there right now!
Luke,right now I think Nebraska is losing a lot of bridges besides this one due to the flooding.ABC nightly news showed a lot of bridges damaged or lost.
I can believe that,Tony.Now I don't feel so bad.LOL!
I tend to agree Erik... Just a dressed-up stringer.
You're welcome George! That has tripped up many people on this site!
Okay,Tony.Thanks for explaining that.
George, that is a patent date... Not a build date. Given that I figure a ca. 1880 gives a bit of range.
Picture #4 says 1876 for the build date,not 1880.
Yeah... I claim brain-fart on that one!
Here is a news article about collapse. https://wcfcourier.com/news/local/search-on-for-missing-hist...
In connection with the latest flood update, here is a tally of all the historic bridges in the Midwest US that have fallen victim to flooding and/or ice jams. As you can see in many bridges, not even the most modern of structures had a chance, even counting the one near Spencer Dam in Nebraska. At least seven bridges gone are listed here: https://bridgehunterschronicles.wordpress.com/2019/03/18/apo...
More casualities will come and with that an update. Stay tuned....
Pretty sure that's just a timber beam bridge with fancy railings...
The latest date is now 2020 for replacement. https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/bergen/fair-lawn/2019...
You assume correctly, Featherbed will be placed on steel stringers. Again, we have a "best possible" outcome, as the Consulting Parties added this alternative, which places the truss on steel stringers at existing width with one pier. Original proposals were adding "thru girder" beams (which would have blocked view of trusses), and another which would have widened the truss (destroying the Variety Ironworks design of overhead bracing).
Tony, this is the original/existing page with more detail. Here's your duplicate page... http://bridgehunter.com/mi/st-joseph/washington-street/
RE: According to historicaerials, it was a deck girder belonging to the Southern Pacific.
There in 98, gone in 02.
I noticed "toll bridge road" near this, looked on satellite view, and found the abutments and piers from a 200+ft bridge.
Based on the span lengths it was most likely something pretty basic but next time I'm in the area I'll have to check it out.
I would guess that the gates are there to allow landowner access, and that it's now all private property.
Sounds like Virginia! I assume that the beautiful Featherbed Lane-Variety Iron Works Bridge will receive the same haphazard treatment.
Nathan, can you scan and send me a copy in PDF Format? I cannot access anything from Europe because of privacy guidelines. I'm really interested in seeing what the bridge looks like. Thanks for your help! :-)
The outcome with this bridge, while indeed frustrating, is the best possible outcome, which prevented the total destruction of this bridge. I was a Section 106 Consulting Party on this bridge, as well as another truss (Featherbed Lane) in this same VADOT district. The engineer that handles this district of Virginia said that to keep a "two eyebar" truss bridge open to traffic in a load-bearing capacity, whether for vehicular traffic or pedestrian traffic is, and I quote "Russian Roulette." The engineer was severely critical of the preservation of such bridges in other states like Michigan, and Indiana.
On top of all that, contractors were allowed to dismantle this bridge in a way that severe damage was done to rivet holes (incorrect use of cutting torch).
Now that said, the Waterloo Bridge in Virginia is to be rehabbed, but (despite excellent condition) it will have a bunch of original materials replaced including all eyebars.
"Rehabilitation" can unfortunately offer way too many loopholes, shortcuts and compromises when compared to "Restoration".
With an ADT of 10 it makes sense to spend money on a new bridge... That will NEVER pay for itself!
Full sarcasm intended.
That’s a shame. Better than nothing I guess.
Looks as though the trusses are non-functional at this point.
If you zoom in on Google map you'll see not only N3910 and N 180 given... But also Hickory Street. Not uncommon to have several names for the same road.
Also that 1932 build date is way off... That's a ca. 1900 pinned bedstead.
Open to traffic again: https://www.fauquier.com/news/aden-road-bridges-open-in-noke...
This bridge could have and should have been saved. Nobody wanted to spend the money that was required to mobilize a crane and get these spans moved. Just another example of how covered bridges get more preservation dollars than metal truss bridges, since ALL of Iowa's covered bridges are preserved, but the same cannot be said for these nationally significant bowstring trusses.
Around here that road is always called N180, where does the E3910 number come from?
It doesnt help that the dam right next to it literally failed...
I just read today in my local paper the Reading Eagle that this tunnel was completed on this date in 1834.Don't know if this is true but I'm putting this information on here.
They don't make 'em like they used to, do they?
Here's one for ya Art S!
No doubt in my mind it's an early 1870's Columbia Bridge Works product as those funky "pronged" finials match this one...
Bridge demolished in 2018, replacement in progress 2/2019
We interrupt the devastating news of bridge after bridge being destroyed by flooding to bring you some good news.
This bridge was placed on dry land instead of being demolished when it was replaced. I do not know what the future holds for this bridge, but for right now it appears to be extant.
What i meant by them not being permanent is that when a road is permanently closed it is usually deliberately blocked off with dirt or a concrete wall or both, and all this has is a gate held shut with a padlock.
The loss of this bridge is a catastrophic setback for bridge preservation in the United States. This bridge was not just significant on a county or state level (it was) but it had very high National significance as well. Granted, all remaining bowstring bridges are nationally significant but this one was arguably among the very best examples of bowstring bridges.
Flooding is a very serious threat to many of our historic bridges in the United States. Unless a truss bridge has been seriously over-engineered for its crossing, it can be taken down by flood and ice. Not to mention the lally columns and stone pylons that can give way.
If our most historically significant bridges must remain over their waterways, consideration must be given to strengthening, replacing, and/or raising the pylons in order to keep the trusses above water.
Every Spring, we lose bridges to flooding. Thus far, the Spring of 2019 is off to a particularly devastating start.
Verified its demise...
Picture #2 showed 2 bridges.When was that picture taken?I didn't even know there was 2 bridges at that location.
Any updates on status?
Saw a post on Facebook that this bridge collapsed yesterday (March 16) due to flooding and ice damage. Haven't seen any photos yet. Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks for clearing that up,Luke.
The company is directly to the left of the bridge and both quarries have been filled in.
Here's an aerial image from the 1960s showing them before:
Michael,let me know if this does get done because I actually don't see it happening because of the company property at one end and the railroad tracks at the other end.I might be wrong.
I do not know of any plans, but won't it be grand to have it opened as a bike/walk/hike path.........
Lehigh Cement 700 25th street NW Mason City
I saw the first picture of the bridge and read the article about the bridge and I have a couple of questions.I read the bridge was built to handle the quarry trucks going to the plant.I don't see the quarry on satellite and where is the company that's supposed to be near the bridge?
Just saw picture of damaged bridge. Sad loss. Picture attached is from unknown photographer on internet. I did not take pic and I do not own pic.
It's already added as the Holcim Company Road Overpass
any one try a bluemellon account for bridge photos? how is/was it
Luke, do you want them posted in the forum or is there a bridge already listed ?
A section of the long trestle approach collapsed last night. Fortunately, the steel components of this bridge were not damaged.
Man card revoked.
Been a minute, Melissa:
Both of the Holcim Company bridge in Mason City.
Update: the eastern truss and several girders are in the river.
Nooo.....im sad now
Alexander,this is another of the Jaindl's wacky dreams that might or might not work.I'm not against this development idea but it does sound a little bit peculiar since there are other properties available in Allentown besides a truss bridge.
John,that's the derailment I was talking about.Thanks.
No,Dana and Kay.According to my fiancée Ann who grew up in the area,this was the rear entrance to the abandoned papermill.It sure is a puzzler,though.
Reportedly damaged or destroyed, not yet known what part was damaged.
Reportedly collapsed approximately 3:00 AM today (3/15/19)
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This bridge was resurfaced. The original railing is gone.