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Zach, I would encourage you to still go photograph the bridge if you can. 80% of the bridge is still standing. There is a risk that Oklahoma will take advantage of the disaster declaration and use it as an excuse to demolish all 10 spans even though it appears only two spans were blown off.
i have liveed in this area for over 72 years , the old train trestle was on onl whiteside road , do not remember when new bridge trestle built think old trstle can be seen on old hwy 136 adjacent to freway, lots of history in this area cheokkee town ofrunning waterwas located nearbyy think whiteside was named for war, but not entirely sure, have you noted tearing down og old bridge up stream on i24.
this is a very historicsiote also and the remsauns of old hales bar dam are located app a quarter mile upstream. hope you understand importance of this bridge and area, if the bridge is destroyed area histoty gone forever this is reason i have fought for over year on this issue(Tdot of Tn has absolutely been terrible concerning this bridge, not a necessity only political motivated 9all truss bridges being
torn down REDICILIOUS (SAVE AMERICA INFRASTRUCTURE.
Has anyone noticed on google earth the 3d imaging of bridges starting to appear. some of them are really good, I have seen a couple that are not exactly correct. But here is an example.
I live in Norman and kept telling myself this last year on lazy weekends I needed to go take photos of this bridge, now i'm kicking myself for not doing it....
Inquired about the bridge today. I was told that it is likely not going to be torn out until sometime next year.
Regards,
Art S.
Wood railroad trestle destroyed by fire this week in Texas.
Tth construction engineering and construction of this bridge was done by Obayashi Corporation (Burlingame, CA) in joint venture with PSM Construction USA (Brisbane, CA), under a contract with FHWA. Obayashi, formed in Osaka, Japan in 1892, has been building large, complex civil infrastructure projects in the U.S. since 1979.
This bridge has been replaced.
Contact IaDOT
Destroyed by floodwaters 5-19-2013.
The "sinkhole" picture is actually where the bridge is no more.
Perhaps it operated as a toll bridge and Austin Bridge Co. owned and operated it originally, or at least financed the building of it.
At risk for demolition: http://www.commonsnews.org/site/site05/story.php?articleno=7517&page=1#.UZvaa8pn8pc
At risk for demolition: http://www.commonsnews.org/site/site05/story.php?articleno=7517&page=1#.UZvaa8pn8pc
Someone had posted "Austin Bridge Co" as the builder for this bridge. I know for a fact the main spans are King Bridge Co. Does anyone know what specific involvement Austin had, if any? The pony truss? Re-erecting the King spans?
please fix this big bridge up and re-open it!!!!
Dont scrap this beautiful steel trus bridge , rebuild it across aother creek / river and re-use it ( we dont want to see these beautiful Iron / Steel bridges destroyed )
I just seen the pictures on here, looks like only a one span is completely gone while the 2nd is twisted.
I too wouldn't be so quick as to call it destroyed or lost. Looks repairable to me.
One of the spans was relocated to Davis county, it has, according to the IDOT info, long since been replaced.
Precise location of the relocated bridge's location is unknown.
Just seen a status on google+ saying the bridge is gone.
As of early May 2013, the bridge is once again closed for the second time in a few years an 18 wheeler truck, one foot higher than the bridge had for clearance has crashed into it causing extensive damage. The last time this happened it took several years to re-open. Apparently, modern day truck drivers follow their GPS units and cant read bridge clearance signs. I dont think our town has the money needed to fix this this time unless insurance might cover the damage.
This blog shows this as a pin connected deck truss. http://www.bphod.com/2013/03/el-dorado-county-california-bridges_22.html Obviously older than 1930.
Attached is bridge marketing letter.
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County website says the bridge was built in 1950. Railings may be from former bridge.
Attached is a history of the bridge from Plumas County Museum Director produced at the request of Plumas County Public Works.
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Two photos of this bridge in floodwater at this page:
A project of unknown scope is "current" for this bridge: http://www.co.shasta.ca.us/index/pw_index/engineering/current_proj.aspx
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OMG!! The destruction is almost unbelievable! What an immense loss.
I had a bad feeling when I saw the NWS preliminary path. However, I would not describe the whole bridge as lost/collapsed. Looks like at least half the bridge is still standing. That has kept the Kinzua Viaduct in PA alive in some format, and also the Walnut Street Bridge in Harrisburg. Also, if FEMA money is applied to cleanup this disaster as it undoubtedly will, I believe Section 106 will apply.
Photos from Facebook (uploaded here) show at least one truss span knocked off piers.
This bridge is separate from the other bridge. This bridge still serves traffic, the other is flat out abandoned. For proof, look at the guard rails
I have not visited the area since the photos were taken in 2010.
PRELIMINARY path of the Tornado that went through this area today places this bridge in the vicinity of the Tornado's path. Hopefully it survived, but honestly with so many destructive tornadoes in Oklahoma I am surprised as many bridges have stood as long as they have.
I drove over the new bridge last month. Construction crews had removed the roadbed leading to the old bridge. I doubt this one is going to stand much longer.
This bridge is relatively easy to document. There is a parking area nearby, and a cantilevered walkway allows documentation of details.
Damn, you're lucky you shot these photos in March, John. Probably not much to see now.
Is this the same as the Abandoned Lincoln Highway West Beaver Creek Bridge? They seem awfully similar.
Is this the same as the Little Beaver Creek Lincoln Highway bridge?
The cyclists on this bridge make me wonder: has anyone thought of looking up RAGBRAI's 2013 route to see if there are historic bridges on it? Besides me, I mean?
"Got sheep?" Hee!
How do I vote here? Shall I base my rating on the new bridge, the remains of the old bridge, or what the bridge once was?
Bridge appears at the 11:47 mark
Bridge appears at the 8:49 mark
It looks like there are fresh tracks leading into and out of the trees, so it may still be serving for farm use. Of course it could also be long gone and replaced by gravel and a culvert....
Information on this page indicates the bridge was inspected in 2011, but my wife's cousin lives on the land where CR 328 used to be, and she assures me the road has been closed and abandoned for much longer than that. I tried to approach the bridge from the other direction and discovered that way is also blocked. The satellite image seems to indicate that the bridge is long gone too, but I can't be 100% sure of that.
They should have just restored the covered bridge and tuck-pointed the abutments at that time. This has to be one of the most scenic locations I have seen and it certainly looked much better with the old bridge there.
Ken, do you know if this bridge is really still in storage as is mentioned in the description?
They built the new bridge on the old stone support walls. Those are starting to fail. The county jacked up the new bridge and poured a new wall on one side in 2012.
I grew up on Jewel drive and all the kids in the neighborhood would hang out down at the old bridge. I have recently moved back to the area and walk down there often. I was thinking about contacting the City about saving it and maybe adding a canoe access. Growing up we use to canoe through town and pull out there. Someone has put up a gate at the end of Ken Maril and the farmer puts a pad lock on it. That needs to be removed. It is a county road and should be open to the public.
Harry
having lived app over 50 years near this old trustle which was probably built in 168 replaced ool bridge nearby on old whiteside rd, a marker noting running water area sits just for hwy 134 it can be seen headed toward chattanooga just before this old trestle. hope this helped some jackwooten37@yahoo.com
Thought the bridge deserved a few pics
2013 Google Maps imagery shows that this bridge still exists and is closed to traffic. It looks like it's in bad shape - parts of the deck and large sections of railings are missing.
Can anyone tell me when the swinging bridge over the Osage in Monegaw was built?
This bridge has been modified by having its open deck covered with a concrete "trough" fully balasted deck. Track 2 on this bridge was rebuilt in May, 2013 and a quick look around gives the impression that the struture is in very good conditon.
This is in Warren County NJ; part of Pohatcong Twp. The Musconetcong River is the Northwestern boundary marker for Hunterdon County.
If you use Google Earth view I think you can see the remains of the butterfly dam that used to stand in the centerline of the canal there at that narrow area just north of the ninth street bridge. Just south of the controlling works. Looks to me like when they removed it from service that they just went south a little bit and just laid it on its side along the western canal bank. Fascinating piece of engineering. I've never heard of another one like it anywhere.
There are actually pictures of this bridge somewhere. I'll see if I can find them. Might be with HAER.
Warm weather means summer is here. It also means road work/construction season. While Bridgehunters and their fans may be familiar with projects listed on state DOT webpages, consider checking your local county/parish or municipality public works for notable bridges threatened with replacement. In a three county radius I discovered a variety to photograph before they become history: Timber slab, two steel stringers, concrete arch, timber stringer, Pratt truss. From “35” years old to 100.
Boy, finding an intact truss bridge anywhere in demo-happy Wisconsin is a chore, but this one is even close enough to me where it won't bust the bank to put gas in the car to go visit it! I'm planning a visit tomorrow; I'll post pics.
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Yes, this is a modern bridge, but it is a replica of a historic bridge that once spanned Long Creek in the Melvern Vicinity. A photograph can be viewed here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bkern1989/7155338182/in/photostream/
James: If you feel that this bridge does not belong, than no worries. I added it because I don't mind good replicas on here.
Does anyone have photo or documentation of Hatchie River bridges, Haywood County, TN. as they existed circa 1940, for either:
1. Highway 1 (now 70) between Brownsville & Stanton; or,
2. Highway 76 between Brownsville & Stanton.
I need to determine the type of bridge in each location as existed in1940.
Tn DOT has no documentation for either location as of 1940.
Thanks for any help or direction anyone can give.
1967 topo shows RR as Penn Central and N-S as Norfolk and Western.
1958 topo shows RR as New York Central.
New York, Chicago, and St. Louis runs through town N-S.
I'm thinking that this bridge was on the former Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago and St. Louis Railway (Big Four). The Chicago, Attica, and Southern was further west, and ran north-south.
I was reading through articles in the archives at a library. An engineer quoted said bridges would/should last 100 years. This was c. 1955. It would appear standards and opinions have changed since then.
Maybe she was listening to that Icona Pop song that's seemingly on all the airwaves. The lead singer doesn't care and crashes her car into the bridge to see what would happen. At least that's the lyrics that keep getting repeated. She doesn't care and she loves it.
This extremely significant David Steinman suspension bridge's spans have all been demolished. All that remains are the towers and substructure. This bridge was only allowed to stand for a mere 82 years, a fraction of the bridge's potential life, especially as a potential pedestrian bridge. Shame On Maine!
How current are the photos of Martins Ferry bridge?
Gentlemen, which brings me to my next point. Don't smoke crack.
Usually, when people hit structures over waterways intentionally, they tend to have a deathwish...
According to the article, the woman who hit the bridge did it on purpose...wonder what the motive was? Maybe she's a hit-woman hired by IowaDOT...
Apparently, someone hit this bridge with their car, broke a beam, and the damage was repaired.
The bridge is open to traffic.
I learned today that there is a discussion aimed toward moving this bridge to a park in Grandview in southern Jackson County. Although Jackson County has already lost almost all of its non-boundary trusses, the possibility exists for a bridge park as part of the greenway along the Little Blue corridor.
I suppose I took this bridge for granted; we drove over it numerous times, each time with the comment that it didn't look that structurally stable with vehicles crossing it. I remember when the road was closed for seemingly aeons while they replaced it, but I never knew just how old and important the old bridge was. It even survived being in the path of a powerful, deadly, nearly mile-wide F3 tornado in 2002, its path clearly evident by all the shredded trees still visible all up and down the creek at the bridge. No idea how it survived that since it was in rough shape even before the tornado and it got a direct hit from winds twice as strong as that which destroyed most of the Kinzua viaduct in PA the following year (I assume major structural differences, a very low and spacious profile offering very little save for the deck for the wind to grab onto, and non-rusted bolts). I'll rummage through some old family photos as I'm sure we have pictures, the bridge being a hotspot for viewing very severe flooding when the creek rose after heavy rains - which it does rather frequently. We have a home video from c.1990, right before I was born, of an especially extreme flood at the bridge; however, I don't know if that video still survives in playable condition. If so I'll try to find it one day and get it digtitized.
It really wasn't "destroyed" it appears the truss is in good condition, but abutments are tipping over. County does not have the sense to simply rebuild abutments, repair truss, and reopen to traffic. Seeking instead to replace.
http://www.pjstar.com/news/x1506810670/Replacing-bridge-near-Washburn-may-take-years-cost-1M
I found the photo in the Indiana Historical Photo index at http://igs.indiana.edu/IHAPI/
The direct link is:
http://129.79.145.7/arcims/IHAPI/viewer.htm
You will need Java to use this service. The oldest photos they have are the 1936. They are also the best of the oldest photos. 1941, 1952 and 1956 were not very good at all. The quality gets better after 1962.
1936 was good enough to see the piers and that the bridge was not there.
Remember that these photos are a mosaic and other parts of the state may be of better quality, if you are going to look for other bridges.
It looks like one pier is much older than the other two - I wonder if one pier needed to be replaced, but the bridge couldn't be closed for the repair. The railroad then built two piers around the old one, jacked up the bridge, demolished the old pier, and installed the plate girders so the original connection rests on them.
I really wonder if that would be cheaper than building a new bridge...
This appears to be a very unusual reuse of a truss. You gotta hand it to the railroads--they get the train across the river! I wonder what the story is on this one.
Has anyone heard any news on the Lower Bridge in English Center. Are they going to keep the bridge? Is Penn Dot in agreeance to save and restore the bridge? With the Natural Gas Fracking, let them take another road, they are probably the ones responsible for breaking it. Let them pay for the repair and then have them keep off.
A similar debate occurred on this page: http://bridgehunter.com/il/kane/bh50820/
Anthony had a good point about removing these bridges from the Bowstring category.
Thanks for the link. Those are some interesting photographs.
While not directly related to bridges, tomorrow (May 15th) marks the Sesquicentennial of the Battle of Rebel Creek. This small, and largely forgotten, Civil War battle was fought roughly three miles north of this bridge. The site is not accessible to the public.
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/montgome/chron3.htm
This bridge was built only 8 years later.
Dave,
Can you send me the photos of the bridge via e-mail? I would like to have a look at it. My contact details are in the comment section. Location and construction date would help too. Thanks!
JS
Hi,
My grandfather was a civil engineer in the 1920s working on a lot of the LA bridges. Not al the photos he has of construction are labelled but you may like them.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ladd_halsey/sets/72157632964581204/with/8544405281/
Bridge has been already deleted.
Obviously, I hate these MOB bridges and don't want anything to do with them. And while I understand that perhaps from an engineering standpoint maybe these are "bowstrings," as a bridge historian, I find it annoying when the term "bowstring" is used to describe these ugly MOB bridges that aren't worth the Chinese scrap steel they are made of. To a bridge historian, "bowstring truss" is almost a sacred term since it is usually used to describe one of the most precious treasures to be found in the bridge world, those exceedingly rare and highly significant cast and wrought iron bridges built in the 1870s, of which so few remain today.
On the other hand, if you go to Europe, "bowstring" is applied to a completely different style of historic truss bridge.
Dave:
These MOBs (Mail Order Bridges) are of great controversy on this website. Some individuals may defend them as legitimate bowstring trusses. Other contributors such as myself do not consider them to be of interest. While we all have our own opinions of what makes a bridge historic or noteworthy, I will just provide my personal opinions of why I do not like seeing MOBs on this website.
1. These MOBs have no connection with historic bowstring bridges. A historic bowstring bridge would have counters, which are not present on this bridge. Additionally, bowstring bridges were assembled using built up members including Keystone Columns, Phoenix Columns, and the similar member patented by King. A historic bowstring bridge often incorporated cruciform members which would have been joined with pin-connections.
A MOB such as this bridge has none of those historic features. These bridges are constructed with welded connections.
2. MOBs are mass produced. Therefore they have become a common technology, much like concrete slabs or other uninteresting designs. Granted, all truss bridges are MOBs at some level, but they still required assembly beyond simply welding pieces together.
3. MOBs are often replacing historic bridges or used where a historic bridge could have been relocated. As an example, there are numerous hiking trails being developed in the United States right now. One would think that the historic truss bridges that are being demolished could be moved to some of these trails. Instead, the historic bridges are sent to China to be melted down, and these MOBs are showing up on the trails instead.
So, that is my reasoning for not including MOBs on this website. I am sure that others will disagree with me, but I thank you for reading my $0.02.
Wow, you found an aerial of this area of the county online? Would love to see that! I'm planning on getting over to our county museum to see if I can dig up more photography or information sometime soon. I agree, the piers look very much like the ones on the Williams covered bridge, although perhaps shorter. They also look somewhat like the ones on the Ft Ritner bridge. With there having been several covered bridges in my area,(Medora, Tunnelton, Rivervale, Stumphole, Williams)...I can't help but wonder if it was another JJ Daniels bridge.
I am from the French part of Sparta, by the way.
MODERNE/NON-HISTORIQUE!
Anonymous the Athenian says it is not even worth writing a poem about.
Same county engineer as Poweshiek. Enough said.
Hi all,
I've been trying to track down two bridges that reportedly feature in the 1973 James Bond film "Live and Let Die" that both appear during a boat chase sequence.
Both of these are almost certainly in the Louisiana bayou's, and may either be around Slidell or south of New Orleans.
The first is listed on various sites as "Crawdad Bridge" and features a world record breaking boat jump over a police car (although funnily enough I can't see a bridge anywhere in the scene!
The second is commonly listed as "Miller's Bridge" and features a police blockade which two boats break right through.
We now have two very similar brick arch bridges within a few miles of each other on the ATSF Railroad.
There were railroads in eastern Kansas prior to the Civil War. Naturally, a large number of bridges at that time would have been built of wood.
Brick arches were used during the Civil War era, so I would be interested to find out whether or not these two bridges could date from that period.
Another research project to add to my list...
It seems Section 106 will apply to any repairs/replacement of this bridge. I have only seen a couple crappy newspaper photos and a description from newspapers which can often be inaccurate, but it appears the end panels of the trusses of one leaf were severely damaged, and based on description, possibly may have been damaged or physically shifted in the area of the trunnion. This is all speculation based on the limited sources mentioned above. I will be monitoring this bridge's status closely. If the end panels are damaged on the leaf as it appears, you could consider a project similar to the ongoing Wells Street Bridge in Chicago, and just replace the damaged panels with replicas.
I think this guy is in the running for the biggest bonehead award for 2013! Like the Traer Bridge, I'm afraid this bridge will become a victim of stupidity and will be demolished and replaced! ;-C
I think that was the secret plan of Tama County: hire some banditos to purposely cut down a tree and have it land onto the bridge so that they can provide contractors with a head start on the demolition plan and justify reasons for demo-ing a National Register Landmark! Such a sad day indeed; esp. as I had this bridge on my list of bridges to visit during the HB Weekend in August.... :-(
Link: http://thebridgehunter.areavoices.com/2013/05/13/traer-bridge-to-be-replaced-by-loggers/
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