It is a relief to hear that one of the most significant and unique historic bridges in California remains after the floods!
That is great news. Thanks for the update. We were concerned about this one.
I drove across the bridge twice yesterday while running a bird survey route. Yes, it is still standing even after our very rainy winter.
"Bailey" became somewhat generic decades ago (like "kleenex" for tissue paper). I agree with the suggestions about using "modular panel truss" or "modular truss panel" as a description since there are several manufacturers, each with a variety of models or styles that look mostly the same.
FMiser's previous comments are also correct about the "Treadway" style. Like the "medium girder bridge" (MGB)it too was something related to the Military but not Bailey. I enjoy this website!
I doesn't look like there is a Bailey truss in that photo - but there is. Way back in the trees and shadows. The approach span that is easy to see is pretty odd.
Nathan, Gil may have to clarify - but I read it as a description of a general type, not a specific . Bailey seems to be only one of the US Army modular bridging trusses, usually not a deck truss though. A US Army deck truss that comes to mind is the MGB (Medium Girder Bridge). This bridge is not build with that truss either.
So my thought is rather than calling all of these modular panel bridges a "Bailey" - since ones such as this are not a Bailey truss at all - maybe there is a more accurate description.
"Modular", "pre-fabricated" and "panel" seem to be defining characteristics of this type, whether Bailey, Callender-Hamilton, Acrow, Mabey Johnson, Janson, Quadricon, or others. So maybe "pre-fab, modular steel panel truss"? Kinda wordy, but there are other wordy categories! All the examples I'm thinking of could clearly sorted.
I visited the bridge during trip to Pismo Beach last year and found it completely fenced off. This bridge is closed for good.
Gil below commented on the exact type of bridge: US Army modular deck bridges. If there is concern about specificity of "modular" then the category could be called "US Army modular" for example may be better. Other countries have their own modular designs. Callender-Hamilton truss for example is another.
That seems reasonable to me. I am glad that you are still lurking in here. I was wondering where you had been.
I changed the design type to Warren. And I'm wondering if there should be a category "modular"?
Several of these have been improperly labeled as Baileys. The confusion arises from he fact that these are US Army modular deck bridges. I think the nomenclature is either H5 or H10 based on the truss panel size. I believe the design pre-dates the Bailey design. If I come across more info on these I'll forward it on.
Are not Baileys usually squared at the ends, verticals not diagonals
This is labeled as Bailey truss but looks like a Warren to me. Maybe the angle has my eyes seeing this wrong.
As of May 2017, this bridge has been inaccessible due to slides since January, and I expect it to stay closed through June.
The tree's official name is "El Palo Alto".
Here is a news article on the ongoing rehab: http://www.folsomtelegraph.com/article/4/13/17/road-closed-w...
In my home state of Michigan, bridge projects are typically a local curiosity and it is customary for nearby residents to walk down into a construction site to see what's going on at the end of the day. Apparently this is not allowed in California because they have a nasty sign posted saying "No Trespassing Alarm Will Sound, Police Will Be Dispatched" so apparently this bridge is being guarded like a diamond in a museum!!!
My house, in the Oakland hills and to be for sale next year, incorporates timbers salvaged from the old Richardson Bay redwood bridge. It was built in 1961 (Benjamin Fishstein, architect) In many of the beams and posts the original bolt-holes remain visible. I attach a recent photo.
New bridge has opened
I live in Camptonville, near this bridge, and I just wanted to report that the road to this bridge has been crippled so badly by the recent storms in California that it might never open, and even if it does, it'll be 3-4 years out.
Cory Golliday provided this old picture of the steel bridge that we old folks remember jumping off in the 50s and 60s. Not a great picture, but better than a poke in the eye!
Thank you Bridge Hunter,
I finally found the possible bridge that had the builder signage that I recently bought. This is a cast iron sign 5' x 14" that says Cal. Bridge Co.
Oakland Cal. The sign is about 1 inch thick & has 4 tapered holes 3/4 inch holes that was probably hung with rivets. I see that this is the only bridge that I can find on file that this company built so far.
Thanks again, David Korinek Lewiston Cal
Bridge is currently underwater.
I grew up with this bridge. My brother Pat (now deceased) and friend Tom even tried to climb the trestle from the ground next to the river to the top. When we finally did reach the top a train was approaching from the Redding direction. We were too far from the end of the bridge to make it to safety, so we climbed over the side and hanged on until the 100 car freight train passed us by. We then climbed back down and never tried that again. From the Redding park on the north side of the river we watched many artists paint pictures of the bridge and or the old automobile bridge across the Sacramento river which were both beautiful sites that remain embedded in my brain nearly seventy years later.
Also, as this bridge carries a railroad in addition to traffic, the railroad may have archives. If John Marvig chimes in, I would rely on his advice as he is one of our railroad experts on here.
There are a few possibilities. The city or county might have copies. If not, the State Historical Society or perhaps CALTRANS might have something in their archives. The other possibility might be the archives of the bridge company if they still exist. I would suggest starting with the city and seeing if they can point you in the right direction. Best wishes in your quest.
I am looking to get some technical designs/drawings re I Street Bridge in Sacramento, CA along with any interesting history about it. Could you direct me to where I can attain these items.
What happened to the old maxwell bridge? I heard rumors it went to Oregon?
It's likely the bridge was destroyed by the Christmas Flood of 1964.
I used this bridge for climbing practice in the mid 80s. It was perfect; the angled structures on the side made perfect stepping-off places. As I recall it was about a 90 foot free rappel. Then I would clip Jumars onto the rope and climb back up. I spent many a happy afternoon here!
The tree tunnel and surrounding forest are actually that of the Coast Redwood (Sequoia Sempervirens), which are the tallest trees on Earth.
This railroad bascule bridge is similar to the B&O South Chicago rail bridge Baltimore warren truss was also struck few times then was removed in 1955. Much in common however the whole bridge was completely removed before the B&O Calumet River rail drawbridge only has the span torn from its supports in 1988 leaving but a counterweight bridge tower
I, too, grew up in Paradise. I loved the swimming hole at the Nelson Bar Bridge. However, the bridge was not used "until the day the lake took it." The steel girder bridge was dismantled and removed before the lake filled. When the lake is high enough, the waterway is navagable beyond the former location of the bridge. It would have become a major navigation hazzard.
During dry years, I have walked down to the bridge site of with boys. The deep swimming hole is completely silted in. The big rocks are only 10' high above the silt.
Oops again. I see what you did there: your Alderpoint Bridge IS the Cain Rock Bridge.
Oops, Cain Rock Bridge is SOUTH of Alderpoint, CA. Upstream, yes.
I believe info and photo here is for the downstream Eel River Bridge,not Cain Rock Bridge. Neat website! No Cain Rock Bridge info? You can see it on Google Earth by searching for Alderpoint, CA then panning a few miles north, upriver. Td
Thanks for this great link. I too grew up in Paradise (3rd grade to 8th grade; 1957-1963) and spent many a weekend summer day jumping from the bridge, swinging from the rope, and swimming with the fish. Sorry I don't have a picture either of the steel bridge. Glorious childhood memories. Included here is a Google satellite picture taken April 14, 2015 at low water. One can see where the road used to run under the present water line to the bridge. Cheers, Charles Morgan
Why is the height of this bridge not listed anywhere? The bridge itself is not marked and the website doesn't mention it.
Isn't this the same Oroville Ca that had the dam breach just last week?
Well, I am not familiar with this area, so I could only speculate. Any California contributors on here?
I'm doing some genealogical research and found a reference to "the new bridge, a little out of town, on the Washington road". From the Nevada Journal, 5 Dec 1856, published out of Nevada City, CA.
Would the Bidwell Bridge be the bridge referenced?
That is good news. I have been wondering about those Northern California bridges given the flooding there.
Yes the bridge is fine. The flood of 97 was bigger and being on the bridge in 97 was much more impressive than in January.
Good Movie Railing...............
Twice since this bridg was considered done it has broken down one time on a Saturday coming home from grocery shopping I was stuck in my car unable to go home car full of food. Again last night after working all day driveing an hour to get home only to arrive at bridge not working only thinking a boat is passing under then after 30 minutes of I idelling in my car to see people walking up to bridge and back saying it is stuck no way to know how long so I have to turn around drive an hour pay another toll over Benicia bridge and come in via Fairfield ....took me 3 hours to get home usually takes me 45 minutes
Maybe the money used to repair should have used toward a new bridge...
There needs to be a system in place to tell the miles of cars lined up to go home what is happening maybe a number to call before we get to bridge to see if it is working....
Regretting buying my home out in the delta area now
So sad. Have had plenty of friends over the years with their pictures taken inside this old beauty, shame to see it go down this week.
That is an incredible image. Hopefully the Californians on here can keep us posted when it is safe. There are some great bridges out there which I would like to visit. Thus far, I have only been to California on business, so no time for Bridgehunting...
This bridge seems to be more popular than other two more fragile and historically significant bridges you mentioned. I found the attached photo on Twitter, plus this link should display a video of the flooding. https://twitter.com/InnTownCamp/status/818538375166640129
Does anyone know if this bridge made it through the January 2017 flood?
Does anyone know if this bridge made it through the January 2017 flood?
Does anyone know if this bridge made it through the January 2017 flood?
It is sad to see them go, but they were old and they were falling apart also. One of these tunnels had some rubble come off and it closed the line for 24 hours. Now with the three tracks, the freight can move all the time just about.
I'd be very surprised if this was last rehabbed in 1944, I'd have guessed maybe a decade before the photos were taken.
This bridge was also used in the movie "The Stuntman". With Peter O'Toole, I believe.
Unlike some of the commenters on this bridge, I LIKE the new section's design. As for the problems Caltrans is having, rest assured they could have had the same, or WORSE problems performing a retrofit to the fracture-critical truss the new section replaced.
Two key facts to remember--quality control MATTERS, and if you want something precision made out of top quality materials, DON'T BUY FROM RED CHINA! “The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory.”
Thanks and kudos to the San Francisco Chronicle for reporting on this issue BEFORE a major earthquake drops the bridge into San Francisco bay. With the "light of truth" shining mercilessly upon them, Caltrans may yet "fix" the bridge to conform to its design, and perform as designed.
Talk about your "Road less traveled"!
Good luck in your effort to save it. If you are able to get photos of the arch, we would be glad to have them on here.
The State Historical Society / State Historic Preservation Officer can provide guidelines. If the bridge is on the National Register of Historic Places, or even NRHP eligible, then replacement will trigger Section 103.
Saving a bridge can be an uphill battle, but it is certainly worth it.
This bridge was built in 1909, not 1925. It was also NOT replaced in 2011. However, the town of Ross is proposing to tear this bridge down and replace it with a modern bridge in 2017-2019, with funding provided by CalTrans. Efforts are being made by the community to stop this from happening, due to the historical engineering of the bridge and it's charm. If you have any information about the history of this bridge, please contact email@example.com
This and all other bridges on the Burbank Western Channel were constructed by the Army Corp. of Engineers.
Thanks for sharing the shot of the design drawings. Do you work for the bridge owner (county?) or are the drawings on file in some public archive... I am curious if you might have been able to learn more about the other bridges too. For example, I see on the shot you sent that the design was by noted firm of Sverdrup and Parcel. Do you know if they played a design role on any other bridges built as part of this Corps of Engineers undertaking?
An article from the Sacramento Union, Number 20, 20 May 1914
This and every other bridge on Ballona Creek during the 1930's and 40's were constructed by the Army Corps of Engineers and Los Angeles County Flood Control District.
1951 Orangevale bridge is closed to replace eastern abutment large crack plus deck spandrel supports deck and railing to original condition.
Nice little bridge. I do not live in calafornia and have no idea why the road is gated. Obviously if the gates have been there sense the bypass was built, and they've probably been there for like 37 years (I didn't do no math), they probably are permanent. if they built a fence they probably are permanent. they look very permanent.
I have been able to locate very pictures of this bridge, given it's location along the line. Here's a link to one photo of the center column (for the swing pivot).
Per State of California details, the remaining piers/pilings of this bridge were removed between 1984 and 1988.
I grew up in the Delta and remember that bridge distinctly. It remained in place for quite some time after the listed "removal" date of 1971. The line was abandoned in the late 1970's, after a flood in Isleton. I visited that bridge once with my Dad before it was removed in the early 1980's. The bridge was removed post abandonment, probably sometime in the 1980-1983 time frame. Art
It's wonderful to have such historic structures here in my native hometown. I'm very glad that Sacramento has been able to find in their heart to preserve great bridges such as this one.
There is a photo in a Palo Verde Valley Times 1961 newspaper featuring the dismantling of the bridge. The main reason was to make room for the widening of the bridge (or a span as it says) in the future. Also in the caption, the local Chamber of Commerce asked the highway department to save the bridge for "foot or equine travel", but that got denied unfortunately.
As teenagers, my husband and I used to picnic at the original site of Bidwell Bar Bridge. A ranger (?) was on duty to prevent people from diving off the bridge, but he would always wait until Ed made a swan dive from the bridge before shooing the kids off the bridge! We visit it now at its "home" in Lake Oroville - no diving!
Currently undergoing major rehabilitation. Work includes replacement of deck, spandrel columns and one abutment in kind. Original arches to remain.
I remember when this bridge replaced a single lane through truss bridge over the river. I was sad to see the old one go.
Can I get a sixth star to give this bridge?
I'm feeling generous tonight...
Kudos Todd Baslee
SBCDPW announced their plans to demolish this bridge within the last 30 days, despite previous assurances it would be preserved as a pedestrian bridge in the Santa Ana River Trail. No CEQA or NEPA analysis has been done on its historical significance. Ridiculous loss of history for no good reason.
Part of this bridge was destroyed by flooding in 1997, and replaced that same year. It's scheduled to be replaced in summer 2017.
My grandad, Hazen Laraway, grew up in Winslow, CA which is no longer on the map. Here is a photo of him with his older brother Lester and dad George at the Stony Creek Bridge. He was born in 1901 in Winslow with the assistance of a native midwife from the area. They used to run a general store and would trade with Native Americans there- salmon, caught from the river, for canned goods. It was a two family town, the general store, run by my family and a saloon, run by the other family. My grandad wrote a book about it that we have. He treasured those years, playing with his brother and few friends with nothing but a pocket knife.
river view from google street view.
I'd like to thank Craig for sharing full information about the bridge. It helps a lot when you get the complete basics even about most remote bridges. No bridge shall go undescribed. Thanks Craig, well done, we appreciate it a lot!
This bridge currently crosses over the Metro Gold Line. It once crossed both the ATSF and the LA&SL (Los Angeles and Salt Lake RR), a predecessor to Union Pacific. The LA&SL/UP abandoned their ROW and ATSF sold their ROW to Metro. Metro Rail is a different entity from Metrolink. Metrolink never crossed under this bridge or had any involvement.
David Steinman was known for taking what had been done before and improving upon it, so it is unsuprising that his method was faster and worked better. That said, I am unsure of the dimensions of this bridge's suspended span, but the Quebec Bridge's 640 foot long x 88 feet wide (c.c. trusses) suspended span was probably larger/heavier, and lifting of that span would be an impressive feet even by today's engineering standards. An unusual system of steel links was used to lift the Quebec Bridge too, which I suspect engineers like David Steinman would have tried to find alternatives too.
The 1960 edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica had two photos of the original Carquinez Straits Bridge (?) under construction. One showed the falsework used to support the end spans on one side of the strait; the other showed one of the central spans being raised into place using ropes and counterweights. If I'm not mistaken, David Steinman, one of the articles about bridges for the encyclopedia, noted that the span-raising took less than an hour. (By comparison, the raising of the central span of the Quebec Bridge in Canada took four days and was marred by an accident which took 13 construction workers.)
It's amazing that the truss and stringers are intact! I imagined that the truss would have collapsed due to the heat of that fire. They're perfectly intact!
Since California does not have many examples of Queenpost truss bridges, this beauty should be relocated, restored, and preserved on a trail.
The historic bridge looks more like a Pennsylvania truss
An old postcard depicting the Brewery Creek ( Formerly know as "Red Bluff Creek" ) Bridge looking Northward up Duncan Hill, on the California State Highway.
The proper 66ft bridge was finished and opened for traffic on 11th March, 1921, ( it is easy to think the bridge was built in 1920 because of the plaques that says "1920"; it was in a council meeting on 7th Dec, 1920 that it was voted to have these plaques made ) with only the fills to be completed.
The bridge was built/contracted by Hart Construction Co. out of Gerber,CA for the amount of 13,636.00; the bridge was built in 3 months with both the city and county paying for it.
This 1921 concrete reinforced Brewery creek bridge replaced the 1903 built wooden bridge with brick abutments.
This was the alignment to Red Bluff until the current road was made around 1938 or so. If you look over the railing on the side of the bridge that has the sidewalk you will see a boxed culvert dated 1937.
Now replaced and opened Feb, 2016.......here is a photo of construction of the new bridge, WITH some of the original Portland concrete cement road of the original California State Highway leading to the bridge ( heading South ) that was unearthed. Photo was given to me by Kevin Rosser of the Tehama County Public Works Dept.
I know this is an old thread, but just in case anyone finds it, I thought this might be interesting. This is a picture of my grandfather, John McCann (no relation to the founder of McCann, CA, as far as I know) at the McCann railroad depot, not far from the ferry. I think the picture was taken sometime in the early 60s. I believe most of what used to be here was wiped out in the 1964 flood.
View upstream from the bridge
I have fished here many times.
Thank you so much for this article and all your other works on the bridges across the country. There is nothing quite as beautiful as a bridge. Here's a look at our day spent on the bridge known to some locals as the "Shakespeare" Bridge on Monon Street. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvFvAD223yY
Hi. Just wanted to mention that this bridge did not cross the west fork of the San Gabriel River. It was at the northernmost point of P.E.'s Mt. Lowe Railway crossing a seasonal stream that runs down Grand Canyon and eventually Millard Canyon down to the Arroyo Seco. You could change the coordinates to 34 13'34 N 118 06'38 W to be more accurate of it's location. Cheers.
Where does the West Lilac Road bridge lead to? Start from?
Thanks for the picture of the original Nelson's Bar Bridge. However, it is not the same bridge that is now underwater at the confluence of the West Branch of the Feather River and Lake Oroville. The rebuilt bridge that went underwater was a steel truss designed bridge similar to the Gianella Bridge near Chico, CA. though much smaller. I remember people used to dive off the bridge and swing on ropes under it right up to when the Lake finally took it. There was a large swimming hole with a sandy beach and cliffs to dive from into the 15-20 foot deep pool. Sorry, I don't have a picture of it. It showed once when the Lake was down from drought one year and people had to be careful not to run their boats onto the top of it.
weird to see something from indian valley out in the internets... that place is a world apart from anything even remotely internet related
Well, It's gone now.
It is the same bridge: http://www.recordnet.com/article/19960729/A_NEWS/307299982
According to this: http://www.bridgeofweek.com/2013/04/amador-county-california... this bridge was moved. Here's the page to the bridge they believe it is: